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Royals win testy game with White Sox, 14-3

Associated Press

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - The Chicago White Sox dropped out of first place for the first time since May 16, but they didn't go down without a fight.

There was a bench-clearing brawl in the fifth inning and five ejections total in Chicago's 14-3 loss to the Kansas City Royals on Sunday. Mike Aviles went 4-for-4 with a home run and Zack Greinke pitched well into the seventh inning before he was among those sent to the clubhouse.

Royals catcher Miguel Olivo was hit in the wrist by a pitch from D.J. Carrasco and charged the mound to start the brawl. Olivo pulled up as if he was ready to punch Carrasco, a former Royals pitcher, when White Sox catcher A.J. Pierzynski grabbed him from behind. Olivo instead hit Pierzynski in the head, and by then both dugouts and bullpens had rushed the field.

Olivo, Carrasco and White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen were ejected when order was restored.

"In that situation, I had to believe he was trying to hit me even with the bases loaded," Olivo said. "We were leading by six runs. They come inside hard three times. That is the team that has hit me three times already. It seemed so obvious to me."

Olivo was suspended four games at the beginning of this season after throwing a punch at Jose Reyes of the New York Mets during the final weekend of last season while with the Florida Marlins, also igniting a bench-clearing brawl. Another suspension could be coming.

"I hope not, but if it's coming, I need to take it because I charged the pitcher," Olivo said. "I'm a man. I take my consequences. I know what I did. I think I did the right thing."

Aviles' four-hit game matched his career high and raised his average to .340. It was his third four-hit game in 52 games since a May 29 promotion from Triple-A Omaha.

The White Sox' 19th loss in 28 road games set them back a half-game behind Minnesota in the AL Central, after the Twins defeated the Cleveland Indians.

The Royals collected 19 hits, a season high, in each of the final two games of this series. Every Royal starter except Esteban German had a hit.

All of it was overshadowed by the fifth-inning fight.

"Olivo overreacted to the situation," Guillen said. "I wonder why a guy (plate umpire Tim Timmons) thought we were going to hit the guy with the bases loaded with a pitch in on the hands. This is my 20-something year in the big leagues and I still don't understand what commonsense they have when they make those decisions.

"I'm not going to bring a guy in that throws 85 miles an hour to hit somebody. I guarantee it. I'll bring (Octavio) Dotel, I'll bring (Matt) Thornton. Then I will tell them to throw at them. That's the way I do business."

Carrasco said he was surprised when Olivo came to the mound.

"I came in and I'm trying to get a double play ball," Carrasco said. "I threw him my sinker in to try to get him to get a ground ball out of that, and it got away from me. I went to pick up the ball, and he's charging at me.

"I was just standing on the mound, and the umpire came up to me and said, 'You're out of here.' They might think there is something stemming from before, but I didn't think I was being thrown out of the game. Obviously, they thought differently, and they make the call."

Pierzynski also didn't understand why the umpire thought Carrasco was trying to hit Olivo.

"We're already losing," Pierzynski said. "We don't play like that. Ozzie doesn't play like that. This team doesn't play like that."

Greinke (9-7) held the White Sox to three hits and no runs the first six innings, then allowed two runs in the seventh before hitting Nick Swisher with a pitch. Greinke was ejected along with Royals manager Trey Hillman.

Greinke, who lost July 18 at Chicago when he allowed seven runs on 11 hits in three innings, struck out six without a walk, laboring through 6 1-3 innings in 98-degree weather.

"That's the hottest I remember pitching in," Greinke said.

Olivo contributed a two-run double in the second and had three RBIs. Billy Butler had three hits and drove in two runs. Jose Guillen had two hits, including his team-leading 16th home run and second in as many games. Rookie Mitch Maier also had a career-high three hits.

Clayton Richard (0-2), who was making his third big league start, gave up nine runs, six earned, on 11 hits in 4 1-3 innings, his ERA ballooning to 10.38.

Dewayne Wise's triple in the seventh scored Brian Anderson with the first White Six run. A.J. Pierzynski added a home run in the eighth off Robinson Tejeda.

Notes: Greinke's throwing error in the fourth ended a 71 inning errorless streak by the Royals, their longest of the season. ... The Royals had 19 or more hits in back-to-back games for the first time in franchise history.

 
Ozzie admits to ordering past retaliation

By Jeff Passan, Yahoo! Sports

2 hours, 3 minutes ago

KANSAS CITY, Mo. – Ozzie Guillen earned himself an almost certain suspension Sunday afternoon. He told a dirty little secret.

“I’ve hit people before on purpose,” said Guillen, the Chicago White Sox manager, after a game Sunday in which umpires levied a suspect ejection in the fifth inning of a blowout when Chicago reliever D.J. Carrasco hit Kansas City’s Miguel Olivo with the bases loaded and incited a bench-emptying square dance.

“Yes I have,” Guillen continued. “Because that’s my job. Protect my players.”

Managers know better than to admit publicly one of baseball’s most unsavory truths, that a select number of hit-by-pitches registered each year come laced with intent. The purpose pitch – or the purpose hit, in these instances – is simply a part of baseball, and whether it’s to keep a batter from getting too comfortable or avenge some kind of perceived misdeed, it will never go away, no matter how much Major League Baseball tries to police its game.

Baseball sees this as the type of thing reserved for hockey, or Ron Artest, which is why it likely will drop the hammer on Guillen sometime this week. And yet as he continued his rant following the White Sox’s 14-3 loss that dropped them out of first place in the American League Central for the first time since May 16, a kernel of truth revealed itself. This wasn’t a typical Ozzie blowup, full of misguided fire and silly brimstone, a mouth shooting out Silly String. He made mountains of sense, and his point is something that baseball ought to consider instead of condemn.

“Sometimes people have to have a little bit of common sense,” Guillen said. “I’m talking about the umpires, I’m not talking about Olivo.”

Well, Olivo needs it, too. He charged the mound after getting hit in the hand with the bases loaded in a blowout game by a pitcher whose fastball doesn’t touch 90 mph on a fast gun.

All of which relates back to Sunday’s home-plate umpire Tim Timmons and crew chief Gary Cederstrom. Dusting a batter is not black and white. However basic and brute the act, it takes a fair amount of consideration.

Who do you hit? Where do you hit him? Why do you hit him? When do you hit him?

“You think I’m going to bring somebody in to hit somebody and they’re going to throw a fastball 82 (mph) at the hands?” Guillen said. “I’m going to bring in my best guy and make sure he gets it done. That’s Major League Baseball. That’s baseball. That’s the baseball I grew up with. Not the (expletive) they play right now.”

By his best guy, Guillen said he meant Octavio Dotel or Matt Thornton, both of whom throw 95 mph. Carrasco is a sinkerball pitcher, and with one out and a slow-running free swinger at the plate, he threw three consecutive pitches inside trying to induce a double-play ball. Even Ozzie isn’t twisted enough to call for a retaliation pitch with the bases loaded just so he can cloak it with a good excuse.

Context counts.

An umpires’ biggest weakness – and this goes from the best (Tim McClelland) to the worst (C.B. Bucknor) – is delineating between pitching inside and throwing at a hitter.

Don’t cast this as an indictment on the whole lot. By and large, umpires are very good at their jobs. They get the vast majority of calls correct, employ consistent strike zones and remain strong in big moments. While failure is minimal, the scrutiny that results is exponentially worse.

Still, the tack baseball takes toward hit batsmen often inflames situations rather than extinguish them. Cederstrom explained that Carrasco’s three pitches were “up and in.” The pitch that hit Olivo nicked him on the wrist, which might be in but wasn’t up enough to arouse any suspicion.

“If he would’ve hit me with the first pitch, I would’ve been happy to take first base,” Olivo admitted. “But three times inside? It’s just so obvious.”

Actually, it wasn’t obvious at all, though emotions and memories and feelings tend to scuttle the truth in these situations. Guillen said Royals pitchers hit the White Sox six or seven times in a series in late July. It was five. And Olivo said Chicago had hit him three times this season. Carrasco’s was the second.

Guillen later said that on July 20, he instructed Carrasco to hit Royals designated hitter Billy Butler as retaliation for a Horacio Ramirez pitch that sidelined Jermaine Dye.

Carrasco missed. So much for Ozzie calling on his big guns.

If there was a time Sunday for a hit-by-pitch, Guillen said, it came earlier in the fifth inning. With Kansas City ahead 6-0, Mark Teahen led off the inning by trying to reach via a bunt.

[b]“When Teahen bunts up by six runs, I didn’t even hit him. I should’ve,” Guillen said. “To teach him a lesson how to play baseball. And I didn’t. That’s why I want Major League Baseball to look at this thing the right way. … Everybody knows in the dugout Teahen did the wrong thing.”

Guillen didn’t stop there, and by the end, he had spent eight minutes bloviating on right and wrong. Whether he’s the correct emissary for such a conversation is dubious. In 2006, Guillen sent rookie reliever Sean Tracey into a game specifically to plunk Hank Blalock. Tracey missed. Guillen went bonkers. Tracey cried. Guillen shipped him to the minors the next day.

He hasn’t been back.

Credibility problems aside, Guillen’s honesty – or, perhaps better, forthrightness – does buy him some capital. He is right: Richie Garcia, the umpire supervisor at Kauffman Stadium, should be embarrassed. Had Olivo not charged the mound, Carrasco probably would not have been ejected. The umpires reacted poorly in concert with Olivo’s doing so.

The fact is, fights in baseball happen. Umpires may cut down on them by thumbing pitchers who throw inside, but the game, too, suffers. Players tend to police themselves. Unless they start throwing at each other’s heads – and with so much money at stake, that simply doesn’t happen anymore – umpires should be instructed to back off.

Fat chance. Status quo reigns. Guillen will get suspended. Same with Olivo, Carrasco and Royals starter Zack Greinke, who plunked Nick Swisher in the hip with a retaliation pitch (which, naturally, he denied). We’ll see more subterfuge and refutations and nastiness, because, as Guillen said, “I signed a five-year deal with this organization, and we play Kansas City a lot.”

And the dirty little secret is out.

I never got this, what's so wrong with bunting up 6 runs? An incident happened a few weeks ago with blue jays and rays after rays went up 4 or 5 and bunted. It's not like football, where you take a knee up 3 possessions and a minute left. Just one of the million things that bug me about baseball. Wussiest sport ever.

Ozzie's the best tho :rolleyes:

 
Starting to look like the 2007 White Sox-
No, they finished in 4th last year.
REALLY??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
yup.....or do you want me to post a link?
What looks like the 2007 team is the suddenly horse #### starting pitching (not all starters mind you) and the even ####tier bullpen (not all bullpen pitchers mind you). Ohhh and I am still waiting on the link to this move:John Lannan, SP Washington on his way.Nothing but a rumor!
 
Starting to look like the 2007 White Sox-
No, they finished in 4th last year.
REALLY??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
yup.....or do you want me to post a link?
What looks like the 2007 team is the suddenly horse #### starting pitching (not all starters mind you) and the even ####tier bullpen (not all bullpen pitchers mind you). Ohhh and I am still waiting on the link to this move:John Lannan, SP Washington on his way.Nothing but a rumor!
Shut up. Go away. Sox are falling, its time for you to find another midwest team to focus your baseball wisdom on.
 
Starting to look like the 2007 White Sox-
No, they finished in 4th last year.
REALLY??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
yup.....or do you want me to post a link?
What looks like the 2007 team is the suddenly horse #### starting pitching (not all starters mind you) and the even ####tier bullpen (not all bullpen pitchers mind you). Ohhh and I am still waiting on the link to this move:John Lannan, SP Washington on his way.Nothing but a rumor!
Shut up. Go away. Sox are falling, its time for you to find another midwest team to focus your baseball wisdom on.
Sure thing Cub fan. Maybe you can get back on the Cub bandwagon? Nothing worse and more low down then a Cub fan that jumps ship when the Sox are poised to win it all. Brutal
 
Starting to look like the 2007 White Sox-
No, they finished in 4th last year.
REALLY??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
yup.....or do you want me to post a link?
What looks like the 2007 team is the suddenly horse #### starting pitching (not all starters mind you) and the even ####tier bullpen (not all bullpen pitchers mind you). Ohhh and I am still waiting on the link to this move:John Lannan, SP Washington on his way.Nothing but a rumor!
Shut up. Go away. Sox are falling, its time for you to find another midwest team to focus your baseball wisdom on.
Sure thing Cub fan. Maybe you can get back on the Cub bandwagon? Nothing worse and more low down then a Cub fan that jumps ship when the Sox are poised to win it all. Brutal
Did you ever look up the story? I'm guessing not. Until you do, the subject is off limits to you.
 
Limp Ditka said:
Power Monster said:
Starting to look like the 2007 White Sox-
No, they finished in 4th last year.
REALLY??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
yup.....or do you want me to post a link?
What looks like the 2007 team is the suddenly horse #### starting pitching (not all starters mind you) and the even ####tier bullpen (not all bullpen pitchers mind you). Ohhh and I am still waiting on the link to this move:

John Lannan, SP Washington on his way.

Nothing but a rumor!
Shut up. Go away. Sox are falling, its time for you to find another midwest team to focus your baseball wisdom on.
Sure thing Cub fan. Maybe you can get back on the Cub bandwagon? Nothing worse and more low down then a Cub fan that jumps ship when the Sox are poised to win it all. Brutal
Did you ever look up the story? I'm guessing not. Until you do, the subject is off limits to you.
All I know is this from your fingertips:I haven't denied it, have I?

I can care less about YOUR STORY. You think Elvis was stealing music? You are a fraud!

 
Limp Ditka said:
Power Monster said:
Starting to look like the 2007 White Sox-
No, they finished in 4th last year.
REALLY??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
yup.....or do you want me to post a link?
What looks like the 2007 team is the suddenly horse #### starting pitching (not all starters mind you) and the even ####tier bullpen (not all bullpen pitchers mind you). Ohhh and I am still waiting on the link to this move:

John Lannan, SP Washington on his way.

Nothing but a rumor!
Shut up. Go away. Sox are falling, its time for you to find another midwest team to focus your baseball wisdom on.
Sure thing Cub fan. Maybe you can get back on the Cub bandwagon? Nothing worse and more low down then a Cub fan that jumps ship when the Sox are poised to win it all. Brutal
Did you ever look up the story? I'm guessing not. Until you do, the subject is off limits to you.
All I know is this from your fingertips:I haven't denied it, have I?

I can care less about YOUR STORY. You think Elvis was stealing music? You are a fraud!
I pray that you're shtick.
 
I reserve the right to bring it up, when ever I see fit.
We've discussed it before. I assume that you know the story.
yes, we've discussed it to nauseum. But it's still fun to bring up every now and again.
Trust me, I take my lumps in real life too. It doesn't bother me. I knew what I was in store for when I made that decision. Fandom is an odd thing in its own right. Its like religion, most people are fans of certain teams because of what their parents told them to be fans of.
 
if it's any consolation. Here's what Seattle just did to Minnesota in the bottom of the 7th inning.......

- K. Johjima grounded out to third

- Y. Betancourt singled to left

- I. Suzuki walked, Y. Betancourt to second

- W. Bloomquist singled to right, Y. Betancourt to third, I. Suzuki to second

- R. Ibanez homered to deep right, W. Bloomquist, I. Suzuki and Y. Betancourt scored

- B. Bass relieved G. Perkins

- A. Beltre doubled to deep left

- J. Lopez singled to right, A. Beltre scored

- C. Breslow relieved C. Breslow

- J. Lopez to second on passed ball

- J. Vidro popped out to third

- M. Cairo hit for B. LaHair

- M. Cairo walked

- M. Guerrier relieved C. Breslow

- J. Clement hit for K. Johjima

- J. Clement singled to right, J. Lopez to third, M. Cairo to second, J. Lopez scored, M. Cairo to third, J. Clement to second on right fielder D. Span's throwing error

- Y. Betancourt singled to shortstop, M. Cairo scored, J. Clement scored, Y. Betancourt to second on shortstop B. Harris' throwing error

- I. Suzuki intentionally walked

- W. Bloomquist walked, Y. Betancourt to third, I. Suzuki to second

- R. Ibanez singled to center, I. Suzuki and Y. Betancourt scored, W. Bloomquist out at home

- End of Inning (10 Runs, 8 Hits, 2 Errors)

:lmao:

 
I haven't denied it, have I?

Your words

I pray that you're shtick.

Who did you steal that one from?

 
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if it's any consolation. Here's what Seattle just did to Minnesota in the bottom of the 7th inning.......

- K. Johjima grounded out to third

- Y. Betancourt singled to left

- I. Suzuki walked, Y. Betancourt to second

- W. Bloomquist singled to right, Y. Betancourt to third, I. Suzuki to second

- R. Ibanez homered to deep right, W. Bloomquist, I. Suzuki and Y. Betancourt scored

- B. Bass relieved G. Perkins

- A. Beltre doubled to deep left

- J. Lopez singled to right, A. Beltre scored

- C. Breslow relieved C. Breslow

- J. Lopez to second on passed ball

- J. Vidro popped out to third

- M. Cairo hit for B. LaHair

- M. Cairo walked

- M. Guerrier relieved C. Breslow

- J. Clement hit for K. Johjima

- J. Clement singled to right, J. Lopez to third, M. Cairo to second, J. Lopez scored, M. Cairo to third, J. Clement to second on right fielder D. Span's throwing error

- Y. Betancourt singled to shortstop, M. Cairo scored, J. Clement scored, Y. Betancourt to second on shortstop B. Harris' throwing error

- I. Suzuki intentionally walked

- W. Bloomquist walked, Y. Betancourt to third, I. Suzuki to second

- R. Ibanez singled to center, I. Suzuki and Y. Betancourt scored, W. Bloomquist out at home

- End of Inning (10 Runs, 8 Hits, 2 Errors)

:wolf:
Classic American League Central 2008- this division is just something else

 
Limp Ditka said:
Power Monster said:
I haven't denied it, have I?

Your words

I pray that you're shtick.

Who did you steal that one from?
Steal?Why, is this brought up to you often?
Naw but it seems like people here calling you out for being a fraud happens quite often. It all makes perfect sense to me now.
 
####

Did Ozzie Joey really think he could get 3+ out of Thorton?

Forgot Ozzie was suspended tonight.

 
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at first I was ****** at Thome for not driving the tying run in. But I guess it was a blessing becuase if they tie I don't think Swish hits the homer and we go a few more innings. We'll have to see how the Tigers respond, if Danks brings his A stuff it's a two horse race with the Twinkies. I never realized how awful the Tigers pen is, I guess I should have saw that when they picked up Farnsworth.

 
Hey Wrigley maybe you can take that Limp one back? He is just on time w the Cubs poised to make the playoff run. He already has the gear and knows the history of the team!

 
And in the same god-damned breath, Minny takes the lead in Seattle.
Watch your language around here Cub fan
You must have me confused with someone else.
No I don't Cubbie
Your mental capacity is right on par with your behavior. You seriously sound like a 3rd grader in a schoolyard argument. Which actually could be considered improvement based on our previous run ins.
 
And in the same god-damned breath, Minny takes the lead in Seattle.
Watch your language around here Cub fan
You must have me confused with someone else.
No I don't Cubbie
Your mental capacity is right on par with your behavior. You seriously sound like a 3rd grader in a schoolyard argument. Which actually could be considered improvement based on our previous run ins.
That is funny because the way I look at it Cubbie- how do you know about my previous encounters? You must be following me around. Seems like every other post I make in every other thread you are there taking a shot at me as evidenced by your signature. I don't know why I pay a subscription to be here when I am harassed at every turn by you. Also- when I consider the fact that all I did was rip into Kenny Williams over a lame job he did last year you went on your little tantrum. Imagine that- you jumping my train (a Cub fan with no home) and here we are all these months later and you are still stalking me. I will fill you in on something. Seeing how you stalk my every move- you can go and find proof of how I attacked any member of the Football Guys Forum- past or present unless they jumped me first. Go for it! Having a different opinion around here is not cause for calling me a third grader. Popularity contests on message boards is akin to third grade hijinks junior. Perhaps I should remind you of how you called me a blow hard to kick this off. Well what do you call that? School yard arguments? You also seem to lack any testicular fortitude when it comes to making a prediction or when it comes to standing tall on your own as evidenced by your references to "previous run ins" or "pissing in other threads". More stalking but I will tell you the same thing I tell the other hoydens that try to kick me in the shins- it is a message board called FOOTBALL GUYS. I can care less what you or anyone thinks about me. If you want silly behavior- close your eyes and click a thread. If you want validity up here to give you some sort of bravado have at it because I can give a hoot.
 
Power Monster said:
Limp Ditka said:
Power Monster said:
Limp Ditka said:
Power Monster said:
Limp Ditka said:
And in the same god-damned breath, Minny takes the lead in Seattle.
Watch your language around here Cub fan
You must have me confused with someone else.
No I don't Cubbie
Your mental capacity is right on par with your behavior. You seriously sound like a 3rd grader in a schoolyard argument. Which actually could be considered improvement based on our previous run ins.
That is funny because the way I look at it Cubbie- how do you know about my previous encounters? You must be following me around. Seems like every other post I make in every other thread you are there taking a shot at me as evidenced by your signature. I don't know why I pay a subscription to be here when I am harassed at every turn by you. Also- when I consider the fact that all I did was rip into Kenny Williams over a lame job he did last year you went on your little tantrum. Imagine that- you jumping my train (a Cub fan with no home) and here we are all these months later and you are still stalking me. I will fill you in on something. Seeing how you stalk my every move- you can go and find proof of how I attacked any member of the Football Guys Forum- past or present unless they jumped me first. Go for it! Having a different opinion around here is not cause for calling me a third grader. Popularity contests on message boards is akin to third grade hijinks junior. Perhaps I should remind you of how you called me a blow hard to kick this off. Well what do you call that? School yard arguments? You also seem to lack any testicular fortitude when it comes to making a prediction or when it comes to standing tall on your own as evidenced by your references to "previous run ins" or "pissing in other threads". More stalking but I will tell you the same thing I tell the other hoydens that try to kick me in the shins- it is a message board called FOOTBALL GUYS. I can care less what you or anyone thinks about me. If you want silly behavior- close your eyes and click a thread. If you want validity up here to give you some sort of bravado have at it because I can give a hoot.
Yes, it is popularity that I seek.I don't remember calling you a blowhard, unless you really are Steve Stone

As the White Sox are currently in first place, I will stand firmly by my prediction, with fortified testicals in plain site, that Kenny Williams is the right GM for this team and that A Rod and Steve Stone weren't the answers to success on the South Side of Chicago.

My signature has nothing to do with stalking you, it's just there to point out your opinion on a certain matter to others. One that I find comical. I don't think McBokonon thinks I'm stalking him by having one of his quotes in my signature, do you? So why do you feel the inflated sense of self importance to think that I'm stalking you by having a quote of yours in my sig? And if I remember correctly, I used to be in yours. Something about a name calling team. Seems we have a bit of hypocrisy going on here PM. Care to explain that?

Anything other faults in your post you care to have me point out?

 
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The ownage of Verlander continues. He's now 2-8 in 13 career starts against the Sox with an ERA north of 6.00

He's given up 17 HRs in 79 innings against them.

 
Yes, it is popularity that I seek.

No get it right- validation

I don't remember calling you a blowhard, unless you really are Steve Stone

Of course you don't remember. Fits your fraudulent behavior to a T. Refer to your lollipopping of Kenny Williams and you will shake the cobwebs in that coco-nut.

As the White Sox are currently in first place, I will stand firmly by my prediction, with fortified testicals in plain site, that Kenny Williams is the right GM for this team and that A Rod and Steve Stone weren't the answers to success on the South Side of Chicago.

Of course, just like a fraud that dumps one team proves- your loyalty is worthless. All so easy to make grand predictions in August when the team is in first place. Way to go out on a limb. Ohhh yeah- A-Rod the loser is worthless with his lousy .315 average playing on a team right in the thick of the playoff race. Still better than what we have at third base or SS. But I will say that if the Sox fail to make the playoffs it will be 3 years of failure for Kenny Williams which is right about the time you dump the Sox and go jump ship. Here is a little clue- maybe you can jump on the bandwagon of the Cubs again? Steve Stone- that blow hard? Well I am all but certain that you were lollipopping him BIG TIME when you were a Cub fan. Probably one of the reasons why you became the fraud you are.

My signature has nothing to do with stalking you, it's just there to point out your opinion on a certain matter to others. One that I find comical. I don't think McBokonon thinks I'm stalking him by having one of his quotes in my signature, do you? So why do you feel the inflated sense of self importance to think that I'm stalking you by having a quote of yours in my sig? And if I remember correctly, I used to be in yours. Something about a name calling team. Seems we have a bit of hypocrisy going on here PM. Care to explain that?

Really? Is that why you have sent me PMs in the past to provoke me? Is that why you have told me to shut up here in this thread when I have an opinion? Try to piss on my leg in the FFA? Jumped me when I said the Tigers were overrated (and then tried to smooch some Kitty ### by putting down a fellow Sox fan)? Fellow Sox fan? Pfffftttttt it all makes sense now. Ohhh the sig is just there to point out certain matters to others. Certain matters?

Anything other faults in your post you care to have me point out?

What is this drivel? You must have been stammering in your mind when you wrote this. Way to let the dogs out! You know what- you can be a pretender and try to masquerade around with a Sox jersey on.

A baseball fan with no home. You ain't no Sox fan. I have been around hundreds of Sox fans my whole life and you are a far cry from being a Sox fan.

And for the record- you can see right here where u started your bull ####:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...694&st=1050

 
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it's all about pitching and defense. Bullpen coming in and throwing 1st pitch strikes is the key. Big series with the bosox this weekend. Let's finish the sweep tonight and while we're at lets sweep the Carmines back to the East Coast. Need to make some noise over the next 2 weeks with all these home games. Grandpa is scheduled to pitch this weekend, hopefully he re-learned how to throw that splitter.

 
Hey Wrigley maybe you can take that Limp one back? He is just on time w the Cubs poised to make the playoff run. He already has the gear and knows the history of the team!
And maybe you can take your crap to another thread. Quit polluting this thread with your personal attacks. I like coming to this thread to read about white sox baseball, not idrama between posters.Seriously.
 

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