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Who is McFadden's Handcuff? (1 Viewer)
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treat88
Footballguy
I suggest that to be true because I don't believe either Goodson or Jones can consistently run between the tackles nor in short yardage situations. Neither is nearly as good a receiver as Reece either.So, while I think both Goodson/Jones will see action if Mac goes down, I think the GL/SY/3rd down work goes to Reece and those duties in addition to a smattering of between the 20's carries, will be more valuable for FF than either Jones or Goodsons roles would be.Just my speculation.
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solorca
Footballguy
Goodson still has the same problem he did in Carolina. The guy can't hang on to the ball. He is a talented running back, but he seems to fumble about every 5 carries.
If Mcfadden goes out, I think he will get the first shot, but his fumbles will keep him from remaining a starter.
If Mcfadden goes out, I think he will get the first shot, but his fumbles will keep him from remaining a starter.
ninerfanatic492000
Footballguy
will goodson handle KOR while ford is mending?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Goodson looked good and produced real well while starting in place of Stewart and Williams in Carolina. I'm not sure why you think he's unable to run between the tackles. I'm not saying that you're wrong about Reeces, as he's an interesting player and could end up taking over, but all indications right now are that Goodson is No. 2 on the depth chart and the coaching staff really likes him.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Reece was a WR in college. He's not going to be able to just "turn" RB in the NFL.
treat88
Footballguy
He's played the position for 2 years in the NFL now...How long does it take to "turn" RB?I'm not standing on the table for Reece here, but I do think his role is the most stable/valuable amongst the candidates if/when McFadden gets hurt.
solorca
Footballguy
I'll agree and disagree with you. Goodson IS good at running between the tackles, and he has great vision. He can also produce in short yardage situations, although he wasn't trusted very much in that role in Carolina. I'll disagree a little bit with the comment that he produced "really well" in place of Stewart and Williams in Carolina. He did put up decent fantasy numbers, but he also cost the team a lot with his fumbles. He's had that problem since he entered the league, whether he's returning kicks or playing RB...and as you've seen this preseason, it hasn't gotten better. At points last season, Chudzinski had him carry a football in his arms throughout the day and challenged him to not lose it. It was kind of a funny little game where the rest of the team would try to knock it out of his hands, but at the same time it said a lot about the one major flaw in his game. You simply can't trust the guy to not fumble.I like him, and I was a little disappointed when he was traded this offseason. At the same time, I also realized that until he gets his fumbling issue under control, he'll never be able to be anything more than a backup on a team...even if the starter goes down.
He'll get the first shot I'm sure, but after he fumbles 2-3 times, I can't imagine them continuing to use him as their top RB if Mcfadden were to be out for any significant time.
I own Mcfadden and I chose to go without a handcuff. I know that's extremely risky, but I honestly don't believe that anyone on the current Oakland roster will be able to put up starting fantasy numbers if he goes down. I think it will look a lot like the Chiefs situation last year, with multiple players (in this case, Goodson, Jones, and Reece) working in tandem.
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
He's a hybrid FB...not an HB. He's not a natural HB.... There is NO WAY...they would have him as the full time RB. Sorry bro.
Problem is, I don't think there is a clear cut one...even if McCoy were to get hurt, I think you would see some shifting around with Lewis taking the lead, but we don't even know that about Oakland at this point...normally in a situation like this, I could care less about the handcuff/backup, BUT being that they have gone to a zone blocking scheme, I think there is some value there in the backups. I just don't see us knowing until Goodson is healthy (and really gets his confidence back after the neck injury) and Jones is 100% and letting it shake out a bit.
treat88
Footballguy
OK....?? Didn't really claim that would be his role, but I appreciate the insight.Hope we don't find out as I'd really like to see a healthy McFadden.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
There is no handcuff. "Handcuff" implies you'll get production in the same neighborhood as the starter.
McFadden is on another planet compared to anyone who would replace him. If he gets injured, you're screwed.
McFadden is on another planet compared to anyone who would replace him. If he gets injured, you're screwed.
One
Not Allowed In Mexico
This.All the Reese stuff is hilarious. Anyone touting him as a handcuff hasn't seen a Raider game in over 2 years.
Totally agree here....it is the same situation as Charles last year...stud goes down, 3 or 4 people fill in throughout the year. Every once in a while one of the scrubs has a good game, but nothing consistent. Unless you have unlimited rosters, you are better off trying to find real starters.
GreenNGold
Footballguy
Handcuffs are for guppies.
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
Michael Bush and his top 5 PPG last year after McFadden went out disagrees with you....But anywho, I was quite possibly Mike Goodson's biggest backer this offseason... constantly talking him up and grabbing him in every league I'm in... but after that last preseason game, I am a bit worried...I love what I saw from him in Carolina two years ago, but if hes hurt, could give way to a full blown RBBC if McFadden goes down. I'm still confident in Goodson's ability, but I am a little discouraged at his potential for this year. Depends on how bad he is actually hurt.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Agreed with RN and One. There is no 'handcuff' for the Oakland situation. It's put your 12 eggs in the DMC basket and hope. I love Taiwan "hammy" Jones, but it's all just potential for now. Goodson has that fumbling problem and fumbled 3 times in 6 carries (if you count the down by contact fumble which I did). No way is he going to stick on the team if he can't protect the rock. I don't think Goodson is the prototypical 'handcuff' that everyone seems to think he is.
I think the 'handcuff' isn't even yet on the roster. There a number of talented bruisers that won't make the cut on their 53 man roster and I suspect Reggie McKenzie will scour the waiver wire and be very active on the cut down day adding a Mike Bush type RB. I think he made a mistake not at least carrying Rock Cartwright who added high quality special teams play and locker room leadership. My best advice for now. Ignore handcuffing McFadden, for now. It's not worth guessing. But... The answer will come clear soon.
I think the 'handcuff' isn't even yet on the roster. There a number of talented bruisers that won't make the cut on their 53 man roster and I suspect Reggie McKenzie will scour the waiver wire and be very active on the cut down day adding a Mike Bush type RB. I think he made a mistake not at least carrying Rock Cartwright who added high quality special teams play and locker room leadership. My best advice for now. Ignore handcuffing McFadden, for now. It's not worth guessing. But... The answer will come clear soon.
solorca
Footballguy
I think this is the smart move. They showed interest in Cedric Benson, so I expect them to show interest in other veterans who may get cut, or are free agents (Ryan Grant, maybe?)
