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Who is selling high on C. Brown? (1 Viewer)

jurrassic

jurrassic

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Has anyone sold high on C. Brown, what is his current value? I like the guy, he has talent, and VY really opens up the running game. I also think Fischer will try and run the ball 35-40 times a game, but I don't know if Brown can keep it up. What is his value?

 
jurrassic said:
So everyone thinks Brown is going to put up a 2000 yard season? Noone is trading him or trading for him?
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I think most people will take a wait and see approach to make sure he's not a week 1 wonder. If he blows up again you'll see more movement.
 
CrazyHorse1581 said:
Just swapped him and Braylon Edwards for Duece McCallister and Chris Chambers.
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Wow. I don't like that trade at all.I'm not even wasting the time trying to trade C.Brown yet. Only after week 4 [if he continues to produce] would I expect serious discussions. The things I'm seeing Brown being traded for right now seem like junk-for-junk trades, which is no better than holding him IMHO. As I understand, the point in 'selling high' is to get something of value, and we're not there yet with Brown.
 
BigJim® said:
CrazyHorse1581 said:
Just swapped him and Braylon Edwards for Duece McCallister and Chris Chambers.
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Wow. I don't like that trade at all.I'm not even wasting the time trying to trade C.Brown yet. Only after week 4 [if he continues to produce] would I expect serious discussions. The things I'm seeing Brown being traded for right now seem like junk-for-junk trades, which is no better than holding him IMHO. As I understand, the point in 'selling high' is to get something of value, and we're not there yet with Brown.
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I am trying to trade him in a package for Roy Williams to a guy who needs serious help at rb. Hopefully, the guy realizes he needs serious help.
 
I targetted him late in every draft and got him in most leagues and I'm in the wait and see mode. I want to see what Fisher does over the next couple games and if the balance of carries swings Browns way. If he does get the carries he can be the Travis Henry from last year. It's a gamble because he may be a flash in the pan and may have the most value he'll have all season right now but the problem is you won't get much value for him at this point except in extreme cases (a Jacobs/Norwood owner). If he does work out over the next few weeks then you have some real value on your hands. So do you trade him now for a little, marginal swap or say "no deal" and pick three more cases? I'm picking more cases.

 
I am close to moving C Brown and either Troy Williamson or Arnaz Battle for Plaxico Burress. I am insisting on Williamson while my counterpart wants Battle.

 
Trying to sell high in package deals to people who need running backs (one had Lendale as his #3 so that is the owner who I am going after).

 
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A guy in our league just traded me Santonio Holmes for Chris Brown and Troy Williamson. He had Jacobs go down week 1 and freaked out. Worked out well for me.

 
Brown is a RB who will tease you with a few big games, put up 4pts in the rest, and then inevitably get nicked up. Deal him while he has any value after his tease game.

 
jurrassic said:
So everyone thinks Brown is going to put up a 2000 yard season? Noone is trading him or trading for him?
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I think he's capable of putting up the numbers that Travis Henry put up last year (270/1211/7 18/78/0), and if anything Brown is a better receiver than Henry. As with Henry last year, this is a contract year for Brown. What do you think I can trade him for that would get me equal value with those assumptions?
 
I've been trying to move him, as I don't really need him.

I've offered C.Brown for Cadillac straight up and gotten rejected.

I've also offered C.Brown, D.Driver, and C.Chambers for THE S.Smith. Guy has no 2nd RB. Jury is still out on this one.

 
Thanks for all the info on your team and league scoring rules, Jersey...

Bottomline, no one is going to give up much for Brown since everyone expects him to get injured eventually (think 2002 Fred Taylor). Just ride him out as long as you can.

 
Two owners in my league have expressed interest in C. Brown. One has offered Calvin Johnson straight up. The other wants Brown and D. Foster for Marshawn Lynch and either Andre Johnson or L. Coles.

I am considering both offers and could move him before the weekend roster deadline.

In unrelated trade talks, I was able to land Derrick Ward on the waiver wire and offered him to the Jacobs owner for Santonio Holmes. No nibble yet but his RB situation is dire so I may be able to steal Holmes from him.

 
#@%&$!? said:
Brown is a RB who will tease you with a few big games, put up 4pts in the rest, and then inevitably get nicked up. Deal him while he has any value after his tease game.
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I think your description of Brown is off. I don't remember getting a lot of 4 point games from him. Not in the past 2 years would anyone have gotten the 17 carry games from Brown they got last week, so if he got 4 points in a game during that stretch it would be a person's own fault for starting a part timer. If healthy, he'll be as productive from a FF standpoint as any RB in the NFL, much less in Tennessee. Taht's particularly if he has bulked up as reported. The Titans will give L.White every chance to grab this job, but an 'uber productive when healthy' guy like Brown is not the sort you'd want to be battling with. Turf toe remains Brown's biggest obstical to longterm success. If he's somehow shaken that, the sky is the limit because he clearly has skills. Bottom line, the choice of trading away a 100+ yard RB producer for WR5/QB4 garbage or holding him and hoping for the best is no decision at all, IMHO. It's not as if anyone has a lot invested in him to begin with. He's the type of late round guy who could be a FF difference maker.
 
jurrassic said:
So everyone thinks Brown is going to put up a 2000 yard season? Noone is trading him or trading for him?
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I'm thinking he's in line for about 1400-1500 rush yards..not sure about tds, but I think the guy finally puts it all together this season, without injury!! :goodposting: oh,and check the schedule, its a cakewalk!!
 
BigJim® said:
#@%&$!? said:
Brown is a RB who will tease you with a few big games, put up 4pts in the rest, and then inevitably get nicked up. Deal him while he has any value after his tease game.
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I think your description of Brown is off. I don't remember getting a lot of 4 point games from him. Not in the past 2 years would anyone have gotten the 17 carry games from Brown they got last week, so if he got 4 points in a game during that stretch it would be a person's own fault for starting a part timer. If healthy, he'll be as productive from a FF standpoint as any RB in the NFL, much less in Tennessee. Taht's particularly if he has bulked up as reported. The Titans will give L.White every chance to grab this job, but an 'uber productive when healthy' guy like Brown is not the sort you'd want to be battling with. Turf toe remains Brown's biggest obstical to longterm success. If he's somehow shaken that, the sky is the limit because he clearly has skills. Bottom line, the choice of trading away a 100+ yard RB producer for WR5/QB4 garbage or holding him and hoping for the best is no decision at all, IMHO. It's not as if anyone has a lot invested in him to begin with. He's the type of late round guy who could be a FF difference maker.
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:goodposting: That's alot of ifs and hyperbole, and he'll still be rbbc with lendale and vince getting the TDs.

 
If Brown stays healthy, he'll be a top-10 RB. Problem is he can't stay healthy.... so a smart owner will hold onto him for 4-5 weeks, then trade prior to injury.

 
#@%&$!? said:
BigJim® said:
#@%&$!? said:
Brown is a RB who will tease you with a few big games, put up 4pts in the rest, and then inevitably get nicked up. Deal him while he has any value after his tease game.
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I think your description of Brown is off. I don't remember getting a lot of 4 point games from him. Not in the past 2 years would anyone have gotten the 17 carry games from Brown they got last week, so if he got 4 points in a game during that stretch it would be a person's own fault for starting a part timer. If healthy, he'll be as productive from a FF standpoint as any RB in the NFL, much less in Tennessee. Taht's particularly if he has bulked up as reported. The Titans will give L.White every chance to grab this job, but an 'uber productive when healthy' guy like Brown is not the sort you'd want to be battling with. Turf toe remains Brown's biggest obstical to longterm success. If he's somehow shaken that, the sky is the limit because he clearly has skills. Bottom line, the choice of trading away a 100+ yard RB producer for WR5/QB4 garbage or holding him and hoping for the best is no decision at all, IMHO. It's not as if anyone has a lot invested in him to begin with. He's the type of late round guy who could be a FF difference maker.
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:popcorn: That's alot of ifs and hyperbole, and he'll still be rbbc with lendale and vince getting the TDs.
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It's funny to you that it makes sense to hold an 11th-14th round pick and hope he finally lives up to his capabilities? You find it more sensible to have a quick firesale? Again, we're not talking about cashing in a 4th round pick for 2nd round value. You'll get garbage for him right now. Let's approach the debate from this angle: Like everyone, I'm sure you took a flier on some questionable player in the 13th round of your draft. If he got 175 yards of production in week 1, would you trade him for garbage just to rid yourself of him? Doubtful. That's the advice you're giving.ETA: I've now seen 2 trades in this thread that are clearly ones that should be accepted: Santonio Holmes and Thomas Jones. It's not my position that these trades should be refused. If a trade like that comes to your door, obviously jump at it. My point remains there's little point in trading Brown for some WR5/QB4 benchwarmer.

 
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Harry Beanbag said:
Two owners in my league have expressed interest in C. Brown. One has offered Calvin Johnson straight up. The other wants Brown and D. Foster for Marshawn Lynch and either Andre Johnson or L. Coles.
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:shock: Two spare to fair timeshare RBs for Lynch and Andre Johnson? Why aren't you jumping on this? :lmao:

 
Harry Beanbag said:
Two owners in my league have expressed interest in C. Brown. One has offered Calvin Johnson straight up. The other wants Brown and D. Foster for Marshawn Lynch and either Andre Johnson or L. Coles. I am considering both offers and could move him before the weekend roster deadline.
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These are pretty sweet offers - the second one is simply incredible. I mean come on, Lynch & Johnson for Brown/Foster?
 
Harry Beanbag said:
Two owners in my league have expressed interest in C. Brown. One has offered Calvin Johnson straight up. The other wants Brown and D. Foster for Marshawn Lynch and either Andre Johnson or L. Coles.
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I agree with others... the market for Brown may be better than I assumed although there's no way an offer like this is made in leagues I'm in. You have to make these deals.
 
I got CBrown in the last round and am now faced with having Brandon Jacobs out on injury for 4wks+ and will have LT and Lamont Jordan at RB. Top 3 WR are Steve Smith, RWayne and ABoldin so my thoughts are to hold on to him. Might have been thinking differently had Jacobs not been injured. I have VYoung/JHarrington at QB so any trades made would need to be focused at that position for my roster.

 
I just traded Brown to the Lendale White owner in my 14 team league...

Chris Brown and Santana Moss

for

Marvin Harrison and Jason Campbell

 
BigJim® said:
horadadude said:
gman8343 said:
horadadude said:
i got Antonio Gates for Chris Brown/Wes welker
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My lord in heaven.
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do yo like?
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Let's see, top TE and likely early 3rd round pick for 2 guys who went 13th round and undrafted in my local redraft? Yeah, that seems like an ok deal.
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In fairness, peoples' assessments of value change from draft day through the season, and I happen to believe that people underestimated Brown's value (by a lot) and Welker's value (to a moderate degree). That said, we've only seen week 1 so such conclusions are very tenuous at this point, and this could well be the classic case of trading quality (Gates) for quantity (Brown and Welker).
 
redman said:
In fairness, peoples' assessments of value change from draft day through the season, and I happen to believe that people underestimated Brown's value (by a lot) and Welker's value (to a moderate degree). That said, we've only seen week 1 so such conclusions are very tenuous at this point, and this could well be the classic case of trading quality (Gates) for quantity (Brown and Welker).
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I agree. I would assume the majority (vast?) would take this quality over that quantity. Again, I could be mistaken. It does seem that Brown is being traded for more value than I would have assumed opening this thread.
 
jurrassic said:
So everyone thinks Brown is going to put up a 2000 yard season? Noone is trading him or trading for him?
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What are you going to get for him? Right now it looks like he is the #1 guy on a decent team that likes to run the ball (See Travis Henry last year). The chances that anyone giving you near or above that value straight up are slim.I guess maybe packaging him with someone like Jordon in hopes of getting a RB like Henry or Benson but............why? Iguess it also depends what type of league your in, I'm in a 2RB, 2WR, 2FLEX league so after I picked him up off the wires before last weeks games there's no way I'm getting rid of him now. He's a solid #3 RB covers my Bye weeks and a Flex spot when Alexander and FWP are toting the rock for me each week. Heck I'm gonna try to get another one like him too this week(can't say who yet cause I met the members of my league on this site(KEYS))I can see trying to package him with a moderate #2 guy though in a 2 RB league and trying to ship 2 for 1 to the guy in your league with Jacobs though!!For my money though in my league I'm keeping!!!!
 
BigJim® said:
redman said:
In fairness, peoples' assessments of value change from draft day through the season, and I happen to believe that people underestimated Brown's value (by a lot) and Welker's value (to a moderate degree). That said, we've only seen week 1 so such conclusions are very tenuous at this point, and this could well be the classic case of trading quality (Gates) for quantity (Brown and Welker).
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I agree. I would assume the majority (vast?) would take this quality over that quantity. Again, I could be mistaken. It does seem that Brown is being traded for more value than I would have assumed opening this thread.
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Someone in one of my leagues (admittedly a friendly free Yahoo) just traded away Brees/LJ for Hasselbeck/MBIII. You have to take a lot of these posted trades with a grain of salt.
 
BigJim® said:
#@%&$!? said:
Brown is a RB who will tease you with a few big games, put up 4pts in the rest, and then inevitably get nicked up. Deal him while he has any value after his tease game.
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I think your description of Brown is off. I don't remember getting a lot of 4 point games from him. Not in the past 2 years would anyone have gotten the 17 carry games from Brown they got last week, so if he got 4 points in a game during that stretch it would be a person's own fault for starting a part timer. If healthy, he'll be as productive from a FF standpoint as any RB in the NFL, much less in Tennessee. Taht's particularly if he has bulked up as reported. The Titans will give L.White every chance to grab this job, but an 'uber productive when healthy' guy like Brown is not the sort you'd want to be battling with. Turf toe remains Brown's biggest obstical to longterm success. If he's somehow shaken that, the sky is the limit because he clearly has skills. Bottom line, the choice of trading away a 100+ yard RB producer for WR5/QB4 garbage or holding him and hoping for the best is no decision at all, IMHO. It's not as if anyone has a lot invested in him to begin with. He's the type of late round guy who could be a FF difference maker.
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Exactly think MJD!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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