Who is the #17 best basketball player of all-time? (1 Viewer)

[Frostillicus]

1. Michael Jordan (71%)
2. Lebron james (85%).
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (34%).
4. Wilt Chamberlain (31%).
5. Magic Johnson (33%).
6. Larry Bird (44%).
7. Bill Russell (67%).
8. Shaquille O'Neal (31%)
9. Tim Duncan (53%).
10. Hakeem Olajuwon (36%).
11. Kobe Bryant (37%).
12. Oscar Robertson (49%).
13. Stephen Curry (74%).
14. Julius Erving (37%).
15. Moses Malone (38%).
16. Kevin Durant (38%).
17. ???????????? (first to 25 votes wins)

 

[msudaisy26]

Not sure who to vote this is very tough and I tend to be biased towards people still playing, because if they are already in the discussion they are probably on their way to passing the retired players.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

The Logo was an assassin

 

[Frostillicus]

KG time.

 

[Yo Mama]

Baylor

 

[Jayrod]

Robinson should have been above Durant.

He was an all-time great Center who's career overlapped with 2 guys who are already in our top 10. He was a better defender than Shaq and on par offensively with Hakeem.

There really isn't a great argument for anyone left over him:
Barkley - no rings and nowhere close defensively
West - never won MVP, only 1 title (late in career with Wilt, couldn't get it done with Baylor)
KG - not better defensively and not as good offensively, only 1 ring on a super team
Baylor - No rings, no MVP's and not as good defensively
Dirk - not even in the same stratosphere defensively
Malone - no rings, not as good defensively, stat compiler and horrible human
Jokic & Giannis - both will probably better eventually, but need a few more great years under their belt

 

[Gally]

Went with Robinson. Everything about him is classy.

 

[Kev4029]

Are we sure that David Robinson is better than Giannis and Jokic?

 

[Frostillicus]

What exactly is the argument for Robinson over KG?

KG had more all-star selections and more all-defense selections. Both have 1 MVP and 1 DPOY. KG had more win shares. Robinson's season averages are a little better because KG played about five years post post prime when Robinson didn't (which is also why his career totals are all higher than Robinson). Robinson has one more All-NBA and while more title while playing with a top 10 all-time player. The KG only won with a super team argument is completely bogus.

 

[nysfl2]

What exactly is the argument for Robinson over KG?

KG had more all-star selections and more all-defense selections. Both have 1 MVP and 1 DPOY. KG had more win shares. Robinson's season averages are a little better because KG played about five years post post prime when Robinson didn't (which is also why his career totals are all higher than Robinson). Robinson has one more All-NBA and while more title while playing with a top 10 all-time player. The KG only won with a super team argument is completely bogus.

In Robinson's best season, he averaged 30 ppg, 13 rebounds, 5 assists, and 4.5 blocks
In Garnett's best season, he averaged 24 ppg, 14 rebounds, 6 assists, and 2.2 blocks

 

[nysfl2]

4 and a half blocks per game is insane - 5th most all time

 

[nysfl2]

Garnett's only real argument over Robinson is that he played longer

 

[Bogart]

The KG only won with a super team argument is completely bogus.

You misspelled "accurate" there GB.

 

[Jayrod]

Are we sure that David Robinson is better than Giannis and Jokic?

No, but it is too early to call it for them.

I think in 3-5 years (injury free) both guys will be top 15.

 

[Jayrod]

What exactly is the argument for Robinson over KG?

Overall offense, peak defense and advanced stats.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

When Isaiah Thomas?

 

[Frostillicus]

What exactly is the argument for Robinson over KG?

KG had more all-star selections and more all-defense selections. Both have 1 MVP and 1 DPOY. KG had more win shares. Robinson's season averages are a little better because KG played about five years post post prime when Robinson didn't (which is also why his career totals are all higher than Robinson). Robinson has one more All-NBA and while more title while playing with a top 10 all-time player. The KG only won with a super team argument is completely bogus.

In Robinson's best season, he averaged 30 ppg, 13 rebounds, 5 assists, and 4.5 blocks
In Garnett's best season, he averaged 24 ppg, 14 rebounds, 6 assists, and 2.2 blocks

4 and a half blocks per game is insane - 5th most all time

Oh. Fine.

 

[thecatch]

Robinson, Barkley, and later on, Garnett were my favorite players in the league to watch in my youth. It pains me to have to pick among them here.

 

[AAABatteries]

Are we sure that David Robinson is better than Giannis and Jokic?

Ask me again in 5 years - today, yes.

 

[msudaisy26]

When Isaiah Thomas?

In the 30's at best.

 

[msudaisy26]

The KG only won with a super team argument is completely bogus.

You misspelled "accurate" there GB.

So Bill Russell has no legit titles since the Celtics were a super team?

 

[Bogart]

The KG only won with a super team argument is completely bogus.

You misspelled "accurate" there GB.

So Bill Russell has no legit titles since the Celtics were a super team?

Let me check my post.

Nope, didn't say anything about Russell. Didn't rag on his titles at all. Didn't say anything about KG's title not being legit. My only comment was that KG was on a super team. It had Sam Cassell AND Scot Pollard. Mere mortals can't stop that.

 

[SWC]

garnett was a major hold me back bro dirtbag so that hurts his prospects from me puts him below guys like nate robinson and marty conlon take that to the bank brohans

 

[SWC]

When Isaiah Thomas?

never because he was a loser cheap shot artist hold me back bro of the first order we will get to him when and only when weve already put randy breuer on the list take that to the bank brochacho

 

[Capella]

Are we sure that David Robinson is better than Giannis and Jokic?

Absolutely not but a lot of this board is from the 80s and 90s so here we are.

 

[Capella]

The KG only won with a super team argument is completely bogus.

You misspelled "accurate" there GB.

So Bill Russell has no legit titles since the Celtics were a super team?

No he has no legit titles because he was playing against people who look like Cliff from Cheers.

 

[SWC]

The Logo was an assassin

he was not really an assasin well i guess maybe he was a really good secret one because this is the first i ever heard of him being a 007 type guy take that to the bank brohans

 

[msudaisy26]

The KG only won with a super team argument is completely bogus.

You misspelled "accurate" there GB.

So Bill Russell has no legit titles since the Celtics were a super team?

Let me check my post.

Nope, didn't say anything about Russell. Didn't rag on his titles at all. Didn't say anything about KG's title not being legit. My only comment was that KG was on a super team. It had Sam Cassell AND Scot Pollard. Mere mortals can't stop that.

Nope you just ***** footed around it.

 

[Bogart]

The KG only won with a super team argument is completely bogus.

You misspelled "accurate" there GB.

So Bill Russell has no legit titles since the Celtics were a super team?

Let me check my post.

Nope, didn't say anything about Russell. Didn't rag on his titles at all. Didn't say anything about KG's title not being legit. My only comment was that KG was on a super team. It had Sam Cassell AND Scot Pollard. Mere mortals can't stop that.

Nope you just ***** footed around it.

The F*** I did. I was giving my GB Frosty a hard time because he loves KG and I love Dirk. Let's go outside and get some fresh air. I think Bill Russell was a great player. But please, tell me more about what I think.

 

[msudaisy26]

The KG only won with a super team argument is completely bogus.

You misspelled "accurate" there GB.

So Bill Russell has no legit titles since the Celtics were a super team?

Let me check my post.

Nope, didn't say anything about Russell. Didn't rag on his titles at all. Didn't say anything about KG's title not being legit. My only comment was that KG was on a super team. It had Sam Cassell AND Scot Pollard. Mere mortals can't stop that.

Nope you just ***** footed around it.

The F*** I did. I was giving my GB Frosty a hard time because he loves KG and I love Dirk. Let's go outside and get some fresh air. I think Bill Russell was a great player. But please, tell me more about what I think.

Someone called Garnett's title fake, Frosty said that is bogus, and then you said he spelled accurate wrong.

Sorry I am not in your favorite 5 like Frosty and didn't see the joke. Maybe take your own advice and lighten up a bit and take a break.

 

[Bogart]

The KG only won with a super team argument is completely bogus.

You misspelled "accurate" there GB.

So Bill Russell has no legit titles since the Celtics were a super team?

Let me check my post.

Nope, didn't say anything about Russell. Didn't rag on his titles at all. Didn't say anything about KG's title not being legit. My only comment was that KG was on a super team. It had Sam Cassell AND Scot Pollard. Mere mortals can't stop that.

Nope you just ***** footed around it.

The F*** I did. I was giving my GB Frosty a hard time because he loves KG and I love Dirk. Let's go outside and get some fresh air. I think Bill Russell was a great player. But please, tell me more about what I think.

Someone called Garnett's title fake, Frosty said that is bogus, and then you said he spelled accurate wrong.

Sorry I am not in your favorite 5 like Frosty and didn't see the joke. Maybe take your own advice and lighten up a bit and take a break.

Hey man, all good, seriously. You have a great weekend. I'm about to order a pizza, open a beer and go back and figure out what other basketball/superteam opinions I have completely wrong and be a better man for it.

 

[msudaisy26]

The KG only won with a super team argument is completely bogus.

You misspelled "accurate" there GB.

So Bill Russell has no legit titles since the Celtics were a super team?

Let me check my post.

Nope, didn't say anything about Russell. Didn't rag on his titles at all. Didn't say anything about KG's title not being legit. My only comment was that KG was on a super team. It had Sam Cassell AND Scot Pollard. Mere mortals can't stop that.

Nope you just ***** footed around it.

The F*** I did. I was giving my GB Frosty a hard time because he loves KG and I love Dirk. Let's go outside and get some fresh air. I think Bill Russell was a great player. But please, tell me more about what I think.

Someone called Garnett's title fake, Frosty said that is bogus, and then you said he spelled accurate wrong.

Sorry I am not in your favorite 5 like Frosty and didn't see the joke. Maybe take your own advice and lighten up a bit and take a break.

Hey man, all good, seriously. You have a great weekend. I'm about to order a pizza, open a beer and go back and figure out what other basketball/superteam opinions I have completely wrong and be a better man for it.

Me too. Been a long week!

 

[Frostillicus]

fight fight fight

 

[Frostillicus]

Calling this.

 

[Frostillicus]

Also Dirk couldn't guard a lawn chair KG > Dirk