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Who is the 2018 NFL MVP? (2 Viewers)

Who is the 2018 NFL MVP?

  • Drew Brees

    Votes: 90 49.2%
  • Todd Gurley

    Votes: 6 3.3%
  • Patrick Mahomes

    Votes: 82 44.8%
  • Philip Rivers

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Ben Roethlisberger

    Votes: 2 1.1%

  • Total voters
    183
Probably the best argument for Brees at this point is if voters feel that he deserves a lifetime achievement award and Mahomes will most likely be an MVP candidate many times in the future.

 
travdogg said:
If Brees had 42 TD's instead of 32, would he be a better candidate?
Absolutely. It is odd that you seem to disagree with that.

ETA: You have made many excellent points, however.

 
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Probably the best argument for Brees at this point is if voters feel that he deserves a lifetime achievement award and Mahomes will most likely be an MVP candidate many times in the future.
that is such weak sauce really tho....and totally uncool....that line of thinking drives me nuts....

along the same lines.... Patrick Mahomes only wins AFC offensive player of the week twice (weeks 1 and 2) and then they start realizing they don't want to give it to him almost every week and he doesn't win it again when he had weeks where he dominated whoever they gave it....he probably should have won it AT LEAST 4-5 more times.....not that it really makes a difference, but still similar thought process....

 
Depends on what stats you think hold value. Personally, passing yards and TD's aren't stats I think matter outside of fantasy football. Those are volume and play calling based. The stats that matter to me, are completion percentage, passer rating, TD/INT ratio, and yards per attempt. Mahomes wins only 1 of those(YPA) I'm aware that the other 3 are all factored into passer rating, which is probably the most important of the group.
I like to look at these stats:

QBs
ANY/A: Mahomes, Brees, Fitzpatrick
DVOA: Mahomes, Brees, Rivers
DYAR: Mahomes, Brees, Ryan
EPA: Mahomes, Roethlisberger, Luck
QBR: Mahomes, Brees, Trubisky
PFF grade: Brees, Mahomes, Luck

Offenses
OSRS: Chiefs, Rams, Saints
Offensive DVOA: Chiefs, Rams, Chargers
Pts per drive: Saints, Chiefs, Rams
Yds per drive: Chiefs, Saints, Rams
Offensive EPA: Chiefs, Saints, Rams

 
along the same lines.... Patrick Mahomes only wins AFC offensive player of the week twice (weeks 1 and 2) and then they start realizing they don't want to give it to him almost every week and he doesn't win it again when he had weeks where he dominated whoever they gave it....he probably should have won it AT LEAST 4-5 more times.....not that it really makes a difference, but still similar thought process....
Man, I hate being this guy, because it makes me sound like i hate Mahomes, when I really don't, but I don't think this is accurate at all. Mahomes strength was more about consistency than high-end single game performance. I think 2 wins is about what he deserved, and week 1 wouldn't have been one of those weeks. 

 
Man, I hate being this guy, because it makes me sound like i hate Mahomes, when I really don't, but I don't think this is accurate at all. Mahomes strength was more about consistency than high-end single game performance. I think 2 wins is about what he deserved, and week 1 wouldn't have been one of those weeks. 
If you take the time to back and look at who won it when he didn’t and compare the stats/impact on the game....you might be right.....it might not be accurate....4-5 might actually be light....

and now I’m curious....who should have got it week one?...

 
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I haven’t read the whole thread, so sorry if it’s been mentioned, but I just wanted to say that the MVP shouldn’t be Brees or Mahomes, obviously, since neither one of them can also  tackle, punt or block. Duh. 

Signed,

Can’t Let Go Of This Schtick ;)  

 
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that is such weak sauce really tho....and totally uncool....that line of thinking drives me nuts....

along the same lines.... Patrick Mahomes only wins AFC offensive player of the week twice (weeks 1 and 2) and then they start realizing they don't want to give it to him almost every week and he doesn't win it again when he had weeks where he dominated whoever they gave it....he probably should have won it AT LEAST 4-5 more times.....not that it really makes a difference, but still similar thought process....
About 2/3 of the way through the season, I thought Brees had the edge for MVP.  At the end I was solidly Mahomes.

 
It's definitely a lifetime achievement thing if Brees beats out Mahomes. (Which he won't.)

 
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If you take the time to back and look at who won it when he didn’t and compare the stats/impact on the game....you might be right.....it might not be accurate....4-5 might actually be light....

and now I’m curious....who should have got it week one?...
I'd actually make a case for Tyreek Hill. He had 2/3rds of the teams receiving yards(169) and half the receiving TD's(2) on 8 targets(7 caught) in addition to having a return TD, though that may not count toward offensive stats. Still that big of a % of the production makes me lean toward a WR over his QB.

There is also a case to be made for (ugh) Joe Flacco. He had 236 yards, 3 TD's and 0 INT's in a 47-3 massacre over Buffalo. Flacco accumulated almost all of that in the 1st half, and was actually pulled at the end of the 3rd quarter, factoring that in, maybe he should be the pick?

I had Mahomes as the best AFC QB in weeks 2(Pitt) and 9(Clev) and other than that week 11 game against the Rams, he didn't have any bad weeks. 

Then again, high-end performance may not always be a great judge of seasonal value. I mean, I'd argue after 2 weeks, the NFL MVP was easily Ryan Fitzpatrick, who was benched a week and a half later.

 
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Tom Brady

When the 2018 season is over who accomplished the most, yep......Tom Brady. 

 
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You mean, managing to take a team that was 13-3 in 2017 and go 11-5 with them in 2018?

What an accomplishment.
How many big games did Patrick Mahomes win?

Drew Brees watching another SB.

Tom Brady will be the most important player this season,  everyone else will be forgotten.

As far as .....only the reg season counts.......that is ridiculous.

 
How many big games did Patrick Mahomes win?

Drew Brees watching another SB.

Tom Brady will be the most important player this season,  everyone else will be forgotten.

As far as .....only the reg season counts.......that is ridiculous.
Whether you think it's ridiculous or not, those are the rules; it's a regular-season award just like all the others.

And when your QB failed to make the top 10 in any QB stat, maybe there's something other than the QB contributing to wins.

 
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Whether you think it's ridiculous or not, those are the rules; it's a regular-season award just like all the others.

And when your QB failed to make the top 10 in any QB stat, maybe there's something other than the QB contributing to wins.
The bottom line in every NFL season is winning that SB, stats, reg season wins pale in comparison.  When the smoke clears there stands Tom Brady on top the NFL world......again. 

When we look back on the 2018season years from now, it will be Tom Brady who stands out,  his story will be THE story for 2018.

I don't care about rules.  I go with impact.

 
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The bottom line in every NFL season is winning that SB, stats, reg season wins pale in comparison.  When the smoke clears there stands Tom Brady on top the NFL world......again. 

When we look back on the 2018season years from now, it will be Tom Brady who stands out,  his story will be THE story for 2018.

I don't care about rules.  I go with impact.
No wonder you lose at gambling. 

 
I don't lose at gambling, been playing with house money for over a decade now.

I obviously (like others) reject the idea of ignoring the playoffs when it comes to the MVP.
The MVP has nothing to do with the playoffs.  Not only do you start ridiculous threads, your overall posting is ridiculous.

 
The MVP has nothing to do with the playoffs.  Not only do you start ridiculous threads, your overall posting is ridiculous.
I'm not alone on thinking the MVP should take into account the playoffs.That has been talked about before.

Go tell them it;s ridiculous.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1u12ec/why_dont_we_include_the_playoffs_in_mvp_voting/

Jack Reacher

The Greatest Football Player

Talking Running Backs

The Top 10 QB's

Are ridiculous thread titles?   Really?

All seem to generate some  action.

 
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I'm not alone on thinking the MVP should take into account the playoffs.That has been talked about before.

Go tell them it;s ridiculous.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1u12ec/why_dont_we_include_the_playoffs_in_mvp_voting/

Jack Reacher

The Greatest Football Player

Talking Running Backs

The Top 10 QB's

Are ridiculous thread titles?   Really?

All seem to generate some  action.
It's MVP of the regular season. They have an MVP of the playoffs. The Super Bowl MVP. 

 
Stinkin Ref said:
If you take the time to back and look at who won it when he didn’t and compare the stats/impact on the game....you might be right.....it might not be accurate....4-5 might actually be light....

and now I’m curious....who should have got it week one?...
Kamara or Fitzpatrick.  Possibly Hill or Thomas.

 
But who is going to educate you on running if I stick to football?
Ok cool.

This should be real easy for a guy like you,

Fill in the name that belongs in this 100m, all NFLers

lane

1.Kansas State 10.20

2.Texas Southern  9.4 yards

3.FSU  10.26

4.Tennessee 10.09

5.Florida A&M  10.06

6.Texas A&I...10.08

7.Missouri  9.2

8.Colorado  9.2

Your chance to show off.

What happened, hahaha~~~~

 
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