Who is the most overrated player on this list? (1 Viewer)

[scratcher]

232 votes and ZERO for TO?!?

And three people think Barry Sanders was overrated?

Maybe drug-testing FBG members isn't such a bad idea after all.

How come you didn't vote for him then? I dunno how you'd argue against TO being one of the best receivers in the game. Feel free to enlighten me.On another note, how come none of the 17 ppl who voted for McNabb havent spoken up? I'd really be curious to know the reasons for their vote.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Honest question and in no means is this in a mean spirited tone. I am just very curious, as the message board has a strong 35 plus crowd and strong sub 25 crowd. How many of the Jackson detractors were over the age of 15, while he was playing, and how many are folks that are currently in their 20's that would have been infants or toddlers, while he was in his prime?

Are you speaking from a first hand account having watched him play football with a clear recollection and ability to comprehend what he did on Saturdays and Sundays or are you talking from what you have heard word of mouth or vaguely remember?

Put the Gatorade spots, Nike adds and poster shot (you know, the black and white shot in pads with bat?) aside a minute. If you have a clear memory of him in college and in the NFL, how can you say he was not as advertised prior to the injury? He was sharing the backfield with Allen, HOF, and Steve Smith. Shanahan was the coach a couple of those years. He missed time due to the baseball season. In his short seasons Jackson still averaged 5.4 YPC and scored 18 times in 38 games while splitting time with Allen the entire time.

The guy was an absolute physical specimen and menace on both the football and baseball field. Being someone that was playing college football at the same time as Jackson, I can honestly say he did exactly as expected in not one but two sports before the injury.

Overrated and hype are two different things, opinion. Jackson was on every billboard, magazine cover and commerical spot available for a couple of years. However, the guy could play two sports at extremely high levels. He produced. Yes, it was only for a small period of time but he put up the numbers when he was healthy. He did not fail to perform.

Overrated, opinion, is someone that fails to meet expectations and underperforms. I just do not see where Jackson failed in either of his professional careers to warrant being tagged overrated.

Plenty of NFL players have put up great numbers over a short period of time.His lack of carries in all four of his NFL seasons helped contribute to his high YPC. Having a gaudy YPC is far more impressive when you carry the ball over 300 times rathen that under 200 times when a couple of long runs can jack your average up since there aren't as many other carries to bring the YPC down.

Plus, you all talk about how he never got to put up monster numbers in a season because he didn't play enough, but based on his per-game average, had he played 16 games in all four of his NFL seasons, he would have averaged 1171 rushing yards a season. That is pretty good, but not dominant and definitely doesn't make him worthy of the fawning over some have done in this thread. Him sharing carries with another RB really doesn't matter, either.

And before you ask, yes, I saw Jackson play and he was a great physical specimen, but so are David Boston and Michael Pittman.

As for the overrated tag, I, personally, have not called him that in this thread. I have simply objected to the constant genuflecting many have done at his feet.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Honest question and in no means is this in a mean spirited tone. I am just very curious, as the message board has a strong 35 plus crowd and strong sub 25 crowd.  How many of the Jackson detractors were over the age of 15, while he was playing, and how many are folks that are currently in their 20's that would have been infants or toddlers, while he was in his prime? 

Are you speaking from a first hand account having watched him play football with a clear recollection and ability to comprehend what he did on Saturdays and Sundays or are you talking from what you have heard word of mouth or vaguely remember? 

Put the Gatorade spots, Nike adds and poster shot (you know, the black and white shot in pads with bat?) aside a minute.  If you have a clear memory of him in college and in the NFL, how can you say he was not as advertised prior to the injury?  He was sharing the backfield with Allen, HOF, and Steve Smith.  Shanahan was the coach a couple of those years.   He missed time due to the baseball season.  In his short seasons Jackson still averaged 5.4 YPC and scored 18 times in 38 games while splitting time with Allen the entire time.     

The guy was an absolute physical specimen and menace on both the football and baseball field.  Being someone that was playing college football at the same time as Jackson, I can honestly say he did exactly as expected in not one but two sports before the injury. 

Overrated and hype are two different things, opinion.  Jackson was on every billboard, magazine cover and commerical spot available for a couple of years.  However, the guy could play two sports at extremely high levels.  He produced.  Yes, it was only for a small period of time but he put up the numbers when he was healthy.  He did not fail to perform.  

Overrated, opinion, is someone that fails to meet expectations and underperforms.  I just do not see where Jackson failed in either of his professional careers to warrant being tagged overrated.

Plenty of NFL players have put up great numbers over a short period of time.His lack of carries in all four of his NFL seasons helped contribute to his high YPC. Having a gaudy YPC is far more impressive when you carry the ball over 300 times rathen that under 200 times when a couple of long runs can jack your average up since there aren't as many other carries to bring the YPC down.

Plus, you all talk about how he never got to put up monster numbers in a season because he didn't play enough, but based on his per-game average, had he played 16 games in all four of his NFL seasons, he would have averaged 1171 rushing yards a season. That is pretty good, but not dominant and definitely doesn't make him worthy of the fawning over some have done in this thread. Him sharing carries with another RB really doesn't matter, either.

And before you ask, yes, I saw Jackson play and he was a great physical specimen, but so are David Boston and Michael Pittman.

As for the overrated tag, I, personally, have not called him that in this thread. I have simply objected to the constant genuflecting many have done at his feet.

"couple of long runs"? Isn't there some kind of record he still holds concerning 90+ yard TDs? and "sharing carries with ANOTHER RB really doesn't matter"? What if that other RB is HOF RB is Marcus Allen who only spelled Jackson. When Jackson was in pads, Allen was the #2 back! Overrated, possibly. 'Cause nobody has been as hyped before or after Jackson (but Bush is getting there). In my eyes (which live in N.Cali and got to watch him every weekend he played), there are only a couple players as dominant as he was. I'm talking L.T.1 & 2, Reggie White, Jerry Rice and a couple others. While he was on the field, he was a dominant as players who should have their own wing in Canton.Edit to add what I did to this modified post...

The best cover corner that could never tackle!

 

[SSOG]

"couple of long runs"? Isn't there some kind of record he still holds concerning 90+ yard TDs? and "sharing carries with ANOTHER RB really doesn't matter"? What if that other RB is HOF RB is Marcus Allen who only spelled Jackson. When Jackson was in pads, Allen was the #2 back! Overrated, possibly. 'Cause nobody has been as hyped before or after Jackson (but Bush is getting there). In my eyes (which live in N.Cali and got to watch him every weekend he played), there are only a couple players as dominant as he was. I'm talking L.T.1 & 2, Reggie White, Jerry Rice and a couple others. While he was on the field, he was a dominant as players who should have their own wing in Canton.

Edit to add what I did to this modified post...

The best cover corner that could never tackle!

If I recall correctly, his record is 3 TDs of 90+ yards. THREE. So yes, I think that qualifies as a couple of long runs, and yes, I think that when you have fewer carries those very few long runs overrate your statistics. Especially since backs who split time tend to average a higher YPC, because they tend to be fresher than the defenses they're running against.I think Ahman Green is second on the 90+ yard TD list. Take that for what it's worth.