Who is the TD Bell Cow (1 Viewer)

[kevthegrad]

Every year we see one rb who just puts it in every freakin;' weekend. Who is the guy that will BE a scoring machine this year? Peterson?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Michael Turner

 

[J-Dawg]

I'd say it's a three horse race between AP, Burner and Shonn Greene

 

[Jayrod]

Jonathan Stewart

 

[two_dollars]

DeAngelo Williams

 

[eraclansing]

I'd say it's a three horse race between AP, Burner and Shonn Greene

These three guys^^. My money would be on Turner overall.

 

[Sabertooth]

Every year we see one rb who just puts it in every freakin;' weekend. Who is the guy that will BE a scoring machine this year? Peterson?

If he keeps fumbling he's going to be giving red zone carries up to Toby. My guess is Brandon Jacobs. I think Bradshaw gets about two carries to every carry Jacobs gets, and way more receptions, but look at what they did on the goalline last night. They pounded the big man right up the gut. On a side note, it has got to hurt when a man that size gets a head of steam and then smashes into your back while you are engaged in a block.

 

[Timmay]

Turner and MJD

 

[DansRams]

Foster could be a factor....he isn't elite like some of the Rb's mentioned previously, but he is in a great offence and no real competition for GL carries

 

[Banger]

LT

 

[humpback]

Every year we see one rb who just puts it in every freakin;' weekend. Who is the guy that will BE a scoring machine this year? Peterson?

If he keeps fumbling he's going to be giving red zone carries up to Toby. My guess is Brandon Jacobs. I think Bradshaw gets about two carries to every carry Jacobs gets, and way more receptions, but look at what they did on the goalline last night. They pounded the big man right up the gut. On a side note, it has got to hurt when a man that size gets a head of steam and then smashes into your back while you are engaged in a block.

I wouldn't read much into this just yet, they may have just been alternating possessions, and Jacobs' happened to start on the 1 yd line. No way to tell for sure, but they did alternate each series that I saw last night.

 

[eoMMan]

Brandon Jacobs will have a bunch of TD's this year.

 

[Sabertooth]

Every year we see one rb who just puts it in every freakin;' weekend. Who is the guy that will BE a scoring machine this year? Peterson?

If he keeps fumbling he's going to be giving red zone carries up to Toby. My guess is Brandon Jacobs. I think Bradshaw gets about two carries to every carry Jacobs gets, and way more receptions, but look at what they did on the goalline last night. They pounded the big man right up the gut. On a side note, it has got to hurt when a man that size gets a head of steam and then smashes into your back while you are engaged in a block.

I wouldn't read much into this just yet, they may have just been alternating possessions, and Jacobs' happened to start on the 1 yd line. No way to tell for sure, but they did alternate each series that I saw last night.

I was just using logic. I think Brandon Jacobs is best used in the role he played way back when he was a rookie. Set his switch to seek and destroy and let the other guy gobble up the yards. He needs to break heads, not dance around catching screens and running sweeps.

 

[bigmiiiiike]

Best shots at 20TDs: AP (and Turner is a close 2nd)

Guy flying below the radar that has a shot at 12-15TDs: Marion Barber

- I'm not sold on Jacobs, I think Bradshaw is just the better back, and unlike Felix Jones, I see Bradshaw having a larger role in the offense. Plus, I see the Cowboys offense as next to unstoppable this year, so they should have more TD chances than the Giants.

 

[Banger]

Best shots at 20TDs: AP (and Turner is a close 2nd)Guy flying below the radar that has a shot at 12-15TDs: Marion Barber - I'm not sold on Jacobs, I think Bradshaw is just the better back, and unlike Felix Jones, I see Bradshaw having a larger role in the offense. Plus, I see the Cowboys offense as next to unstoppable this year, so they should have more TD chances than the Giants.

Barber is a nice call.

 

[humpback]

Every year we see one rb who just puts it in every freakin;' weekend. Who is the guy that will BE a scoring machine this year? Peterson?

If he keeps fumbling he's going to be giving red zone carries up to Toby. My guess is Brandon Jacobs. I think Bradshaw gets about two carries to every carry Jacobs gets, and way more receptions, but look at what they did on the goalline last night. They pounded the big man right up the gut. On a side note, it has got to hurt when a man that size gets a head of steam and then smashes into your back while you are engaged in a block.

I wouldn't read much into this just yet, they may have just been alternating possessions, and Jacobs' happened to start on the 1 yd line. No way to tell for sure, but they did alternate each series that I saw last night.

I was just using logic. I think Brandon Jacobs is best used in the role he played way back when he was a rookie. Set his switch to seek and destroy and let the other guy gobble up the yards. He needs to break heads, not dance around catching screens and running sweeps.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a chance to score a lot of TD's this season, just that him getting the only goal line series last night doesn't mean that's going to be his role all season. Personally, I think Bradshaw is a better short yardage RB- Jacobs is one of the most overrated short yardage RBs in the league IMO, despite his size. But, I have no idea how the coaches will play it just yet.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Turner had 17 in 2008 and was averaging nearly 1 td per game last year before he got hurt. I'd say he has a decent shot at 20 tds if he can stay healthy all year.

 

[mattsam]

Gore

 

[Jayrod]

Jonathan Stewart

DeAngelo Williams

 

[gandalas]

Beanie Wells

Seriously though...possibly Willis McGahee? I could definitely see him getting 10-12 TDs again, with a possibility for more.

Other than him, Barber is the other option that sprang to my mind.

 

[Gopher State]

A.P. prime of his career

 

[Instinctive]

BenJarvus Green-Ellis

NE offense, Maroney isn't that great on the goal line, neither is Freddy Taylor (who's ancient and recently injury prone) and Sammy Morris has the same notation as Fred Taylor.

BJGE could be the best back on the team, a quiet guy who works really hard---perfectly in the Belichick mold. And I think he started their preseason game and scored? Maroney isn't number 40-something, he's 39 I think. That's not the guy who scored, iirc.

So yeah, the Law Firm is my pick for TD monster. Hell, he could be a yardage guy as well on that team. As a matter of fact, he just became my new sleeper RB for the year.

 

[Banger]

BenJarvus Green-EllisNE offense, Maroney isn't that great on the goal line, neither is Freddy Taylor (who's ancient and recently injury prone) and Sammy Morris has the same notation as Fred Taylor.BJGE could be the best back on the team, a quiet guy who works really hard---perfectly in the Belichick mold. And I think he started their preseason game and scored? Maroney isn't number 40-something, he's 39 I think. That's not the guy who scored, iirc.So yeah, the Law Firm is my pick for TD monster. Hell, he could be a yardage guy as well on that team. As a matter of fact, he just became my new sleeper RB for the year.

not sure about that. He had zero TD's last year with injuries to both Morris and Taylor. I may be missing something but I haven't heard or seen anything that would indicate an increased role.

 

[KCC]

I'll go with the already mentioned more obvious picks of ADP and Turner, but someone who has a real shot at this that might surprise some is Ryan Matthews.

 

[jude]

Gore could come close to 20 this year.

 

[NHLumpa2]

BenJarvus Green-EllisNE offense, Maroney isn't that great on the goal line, neither is Freddy Taylor (who's ancient and recently injury prone) and Sammy Morris has the same notation as Fred Taylor.BJGE could be the best back on the team, a quiet guy who works really hard---perfectly in the Belichick mold. And I think he started their preseason game and scored? Maroney isn't number 40-something, he's 39 I think. That's not the guy who scored, iirc.So yeah, the Law Firm is my pick for TD monster. Hell, he could be a yardage guy as well on that team. As a matter of fact, he just became my new sleeper RB for the year.

not sure about that. He had zero TD's last year with injuries to both Morris and Taylor. I may be missing something but I haven't heard or seen anything that would indicate an increased role.

Bajiggy will get his carries just from situtuation.Morris + Taylor + Faulk = 100 years! Maroney WILL fumble sometime - just a question of will it get him taken out for a series or two or a game or two...He's not BIG but he is compact and powerful.And he seems to have the trust of Belichick.In limited action over the last two years, 0 fumbles, and 4.4 YPC last year.5 TDs in 2008.Only RBs on roster not mentioned yet are Chris Taylor (who'll probably earn a roster spot) and Thomas Clayton.Both young, but you've not heard of 'em for a reason.Stranger things have happend than the unlikely possibility or BJGE putting up >10 TDs this year. Then we can allGET BAJIGGY WID IT!!!!!!!!

 

[Sabertooth]

BenJarvus Green-EllisNE offense, Maroney isn't that great on the goal line, neither is Freddy Taylor (who's ancient and recently injury prone) and Sammy Morris has the same notation as Fred Taylor.BJGE could be the best back on the team, a quiet guy who works really hard---perfectly in the Belichick mold. And I think he started their preseason game and scored? Maroney isn't number 40-something, he's 39 I think. That's not the guy who scored, iirc.So yeah, the Law Firm is my pick for TD monster. Hell, he could be a yardage guy as well on that team. As a matter of fact, he just became my new sleeper RB for the year.

This is just so crazy it might work. I'd love to hear Yudkin's take.

 

[jude]

BenJarvus Green-EllisNE offense, Maroney isn't that great on the goal line, neither is Freddy Taylor (who's ancient and recently injury prone) and Sammy Morris has the same notation as Fred Taylor.BJGE could be the best back on the team, a quiet guy who works really hard---perfectly in the Belichick mold. And I think he started their preseason game and scored? Maroney isn't number 40-something, he's 39 I think. That's not the guy who scored, iirc.So yeah, the Law Firm is my pick for TD monster. Hell, he could be a yardage guy as well on that team. As a matter of fact, he just became my new sleeper RB for the year.

 

[gibfunk]

LT

I think I peed my pants a little.

 

[HAM]

Peterson if farve is back.

Gore will also come close to 16 this year

 

[Instinctive]

BenJarvus Green-EllisNE offense, Maroney isn't that great on the goal line, neither is Freddy Taylor (who's ancient and recently injury prone) and Sammy Morris has the same notation as Fred Taylor.BJGE could be the best back on the team, a quiet guy who works really hard---perfectly in the Belichick mold. And I think he started their preseason game and scored? Maroney isn't number 40-something, he's 39 I think. That's not the guy who scored, iirc.So yeah, the Law Firm is my pick for TD monster. Hell, he could be a yardage guy as well on that team. As a matter of fact, he just became my new sleeper RB for the year.

You don't think he's worth a shot in the last round when people are taking shots at guys like Mike Williams...the Seattle version? He's at least as good as Arian Foster, who's basically the same situation the BJGE could be in if you give it a couple games. Lead back, nothing special, high flying offense.As your RB5 or 6, aren't you just taking lotto tickets at upside anyway?ETA: Saying "Peterson" or "Turner" is practically useless. You'll get one with your first round pick. The big guys at the top of the list have a shot. That's why they're the big guys. Unless you think one goes all LT on the league, then we're looking for LenDale of two seasons ago type players who can contribute from late in the draft.

 

[Lord Fantasy]

Would think Matthews belongs on this list given the quality of the SD offense, the weakness of their opponents and Norv's love of running the ball in the red zone.

 

[Donsmith753]

Following on from Instinctive's late round flier approach I'll suggest the following (I'm not suggesting any of these guys lead the league in TD's but that they could have a lot more than people think):

Mike Bell

Isaac Redman

Chris Henry

Mike Tolbert

Jerome Felton

 

[Exit 1]

Would think Matthews belongs on this list given the quality of the SD offense, the weakness of their opponents and Norv's love of running the ball in the red zone.

I saw something about Tolbert possibly getting the goal line carries in SD. Any truth to it?

Usual FB Mike Tolbert ran as the Chargers' first-team tailback in goal-line situations during San Diego's preseason opener.The Bolts lined up in the I-formation, with Tolbert as the I-back and Jacob Hester as the lead blocker. Ryan Mathews was highly impressive in the exhibition, but he may prove better in real life than in fantasy as a rookie. He's going to lose catches to Darren Sproles and goal-line work to Tolbert.Source: San Diego Union-Tribune

 

[Donsmith753]

Would think Matthews belongs on this list given the quality of the SD offense, the weakness of their opponents and Norv's love of running the ball in the red zone.

I saw something about Tolbert possibly getting the goal line carries in SD. Any truth to it?

Usual FB Mike Tolbert ran as the Chargers' first-team tailback in goal-line situations during San Diego's preseason opener.The Bolts lined up in the I-formation, with Tolbert as the I-back and Jacob Hester as the lead blocker. Ryan Mathews was highly impressive in the exhibition, but he may prove better in real life than in fantasy as a rookie. He's going to lose catches to Darren Sproles and goal-line work to Tolbert.Source: San Diego Union-Tribune

I'm sure I heard about this on the pre-season watch list as well, that's part of the reason I put him on my list.

 

[DansRams]

Looks like L. Blount will look to "punch" a few in

 

[Donsmith753]

Looks like L. Blount will look to "punch" a few in

 

[Lord Fantasy]

Would think Matthews belongs on this list given the quality of the SD offense, the weakness of their opponents and Norv's love of running the ball in the red zone.

I saw something about Tolbert possibly getting the goal line carries in SD. Any truth to it?

Usual FB Mike Tolbert ran as the Chargers' first-team tailback in goal-line situations during San Diego's preseason opener.The Bolts lined up in the I-formation, with Tolbert as the I-back and Jacob Hester as the lead blocker. Ryan Mathews was highly impressive in the exhibition, but he may prove better in real life than in fantasy as a rookie. He's going to lose catches to Darren Sproles and goal-line work to Tolbert.Source: San Diego Union-Tribune

Thanks for this and for the reminder about Tolbert.

 

[eaglezzz]

Gore or MJD. Only way these two teams win is if their best players get in the Endzone. Smith and Gerrard are not going to beat a team that is for sure.

 

[kevthegrad]

I'm amazed at the lack of Chris Johnson mentions here. Why is that?

 

[Sweet Love]

I'm amazed at the lack of Chris Johnson mentions here. Why is that?

I think the naive or "quick think" reason is that he is small...never hurt LT, but whatever.If you really want to look into it, after the yardage he put last year the team may want to rest him at points. Many coaches (and Fischer did this when Lendale had a lot of TDs ) choose to rest their bellcow (regardless of whether he is good at the goalline) at the goalline. Now, if Ringer was playing poorly, maybe they would reconsider, but he has always looked good enough when he gets his chance.The second reason I think CJ will get less, is that they had a wacky season last year. They HAD to run his tail off just to get a shot at the playoffs in the second half. If Young progresses (not a huge IF, but an "if" nonetheless), there just may be less opportunities. In week 7 if they are 5-2 and up by 14 in the third quarter, they may start to lay off Johnson at the end of games just to preserve him when jockeying for playoff position the last couple of games.

 

[Sweet Love]

I think we need to make a distinction here when addressing "TD Bell cow" (good thread BTW). There are really two sets: The 1400-1600 yard guys who have either 5-6 TDs or 15-16 TDs and the Moe Williams-types who have 600 yards and 10-12 TDs. The reason I make the distinction is that the first group tend to be your 1-3 rounders, while the other tend to be gems you find in round 8 and later and obviously can be had for cheaper...each are important, just different.

 

[shredhead]

I think we need to make a distinction here when addressing "TD Bell cow" (good thread BTW). There are really two sets: The 1400-1600 yard guys who have either 5-6 TDs or 15-16 TDs and the Moe Williams-types who have 600 yards and 10-12 TDs. The reason I make the distinction is that the first group tend to be your 1-3 rounders, while the other tend to be gems you find in round 8 and later and obviously can be had for cheaper...each are important, just different.

I play in a very antiquated TD only league - Moe Williams was money in his day. Every year since I owned Moe, I've always tried to get a goal line vulture on my team. Off the top of my head, I see these guys as being potential goal line vultures. Willis McGahee, Marion Barber, Brandon Jacobs, LaDainian Tomlinson, and Thomas Jones. Am I missing any?

 

[Velvet Revolver]

Hate to burst the BJGE bubble, but Ive heard multiple reports that he will be released or traded. They only want to keep 4 rbs this year instead of 5.

What about Weaver or Bell in Philly since Shadey is a bit undersized. More of agoalline back then abell cow I guess.

 

[Brady Gaga]

Ronnie Brown

 

[Instinctive]

Hate to burst the BJGE bubble, but Ive heard multiple reports that he will be released or traded. They only want to keep 4 rbs this year instead of 5. What about Weaver or Bell in Philly since Shadey is a bit undersized. More of agoalline back then abell cow I guess.

Yeah, the BJGE call doesn't look as great as it did before that first preseason game, when all the sudden he came in and started. Then again, a preseason injury to taylor and or Morris makes him relevant immediately.

 

[Tyrion]

Michael Turner

 

[kevthegrad]

I feel like Turner is the best answer here. I really do. If the Vikings don't work out their WR issues I'm not confident they will get close enough to the endzone for Peterson to punch it in 14 times.

What is the thinking around that?

Example: Stephen Jackson is a great back, but I don't think his team will get close enough for field goals this year, let alone the gimmie TD's a bell cow gets inside the 4 yard line.

 

[kevthegrad]

This past weekend change any thoughts?

 

[DansRams]

This past weekend change any thoughts?

Foster will get a lot of opportunities in a high powered offense. He is the unquestioned GL back and runs with a lot of power at 229lbs.