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So does this mean you feel there is no Ray Rice type sleeper/undervalued player this year. I have wondered this myself actually. The other thing I have noticed is there seems to be no consensus on this issue or a clear cut player everyone is pointing to this year. This could be an advantage, ie: everyone in your league isn't tuned into and trying to acquire the same player, or disadvantage ie: don't feel totally comfortable in any of the options to target them.
Hardesty, I saw a bunch of Youtube clips and he looks impressive, his spin move is nasty and he is physical on top of being a good receiver. Its Holmgren's guy, Harrison will be eventually phased outhttp://bleacherreport.com/articles/422538-...e-holmgren-pick
Here is the key. Rice had a strong running team and a not so effective W. McGahee as his only barrier. Good D allowed the team to continue to run throughout the game and rely on the run. McCoy I fear will be hindered by a tough SOS against the run and the pass first offense, too many weapons in the passing game to get his carries. Hardesty is interesting. Good O line, not so good D, and Harrison I feel is more of a threat than McGahee was last year. Someone said Forte. Can't agree here as it will be a pass first O and Forte was a product of alot of carries in 2008. Has never had a high yds. per carry. don't see this changing and C. Taylor could actually be the starter at some point.
KC's O-line is lightyears behind Baltimore's last season.It's gotta be Jamal Charles.
He's getting hyped up on a lot of fantasy boards the way Ray Rice was last year.
He's got a GL vulture like Ray Rice had (Thomas Jones :: Willis McGahee).
He showed he can take it to the house on any play like Ray Rice can.
His team is likely to lean on the rushing attack with a stable of RBs (Charles/TJ/McCluster :: Rice/McGahee/McClain).
KC has improved their OL to be at least a "poor man's" version of BAL's OL.
BAL and KC both have young QBs who are relatively new to their team.
I'm the kind of drafted who bucks the traditional rankings. I'm picking 9th (12 teamer) and I'm strongly considering taking Jamal Charles in round 2 at 16th overall. I won't pass on Turner, Moss or DeAngelo Williams for him but I would take him over Stephen Jackson and Mendenhall.
Charles is a huge risk pick (I know) but I'll just draft a lot of RBs to hedge the bet.
I'm aiming for Shonn Greene 1.09 and Jamal Charles in early round 2.
He is an absolute beat and I'm hoping to draft him but there's a strong likely hood that Jonathan Stewart 2010 will just be Jonathan Stewart 2009 i.e.) only valuable for the few games DWill misses (assuming he misses any).And FWIW, I think DWill is underrated. Right now, I have him ranked 6th. I pretty much have Gore and SJax off my board due - I'm just not comfortable with their injury risk.I have it....CJADRiceMJDGreeneDWillTurnerCharlesSJax and Gore I'll let someone else draft. Mendy too - hate their OL and don't like the karma of a team with a raper QB (allegedly).JMHO
But it was even worse last year and Charles ran wild in the 2nd half of the season. He set an all time record for - what was it - fewest carries to 1,100 yards - something like that.KC's O-line is lightyears behind Baltimore's last season.It's gotta be Jamal Charles.
He's getting hyped up on a lot of fantasy boards the way Ray Rice was last year.
He's got a GL vulture like Ray Rice had (Thomas Jones :: Willis McGahee).
He showed he can take it to the house on any play like Ray Rice can.
His team is likely to lean on the rushing attack with a stable of RBs (Charles/TJ/McCluster :: Rice/McGahee/McClain).
KC has improved their OL to be at least a "poor man's" version of BAL's OL.
BAL and KC both have young QBs who are relatively new to their team.
I'm the kind of drafted who bucks the traditional rankings. I'm picking 9th (12 teamer) and I'm strongly considering taking Jamal Charles in round 2 at 16th overall. I won't pass on Turner, Moss or DeAngelo Williams for him but I would take him over Stephen Jackson and Mendenhall.
Charles is a huge risk pick (I know) but I'll just draft a lot of RBs to hedge the bet.
I'm aiming for Shonn Greene 1.09 and Jamal Charles in early round 2.
Hmmmm.....interesting but not sure how he fits the mold other than maybe Ray Rice-esque talent. But not sure the similarities in situation are there. Rice wasn't a rookie. Best doesn't necessarily have a GL vulture. DET is obviously a much, much, much worse team than BAL.But I do like Best.
Beat me to it. Rice put up 450 yards at 4.2 per carry the year before he exploded. Looking ahead, how does Charles seem similar when he put up 1100 yards at 5.9 per last year? These guys were taken in the same draft. They're on the same type of path. I don't see how Charles is the "next" Rice. Charles might just be Rice, minus the good team. Either way, certainly not a sleeper or guy who needs to triple production to become a star. Not unless Charles needs to put up 3300 yards to be a star, anyway. You list a guy I think fits the bill VERY well: Felix Jones. <700 yards last year. Backup. Little over 100 carries. Now expected to take over. These are all comparable to Rice heading into last year.
Not sure what your question is, just mentioning Hardesty as a potential Ray Rice type guy, the OP had Jerome Harrison in the discussion, I just pointed out that it will most likely be Hardesty that will be the lead back because its Mike Holmgrens pick
my question is why do you think he was Holmgren's pick?Not sure what your question is, just mentioning Hardesty as a potential Ray Rice type guy, the OP had Jerome Harrison in the discussion, I just pointed out that it will most likely be Hardesty that will be the lead back because its Mike Holmgrens pick
Good pick, could be a monster. And at that price? Mama mia.
a vote for Bradshaw
Yes, I love this one as well. I like Bradshaw, Foster, Jones, Brown in that order. At least one of these guys will be on my team. Jones scares me as he gets nicked and unlike Bradshaw doesn't seem to be able to play through it. I honestly have been having a gut feeling all offseason that I wanted to get A. Bradshaw and D. Brown on my teams due to the breakout potential. Foster is not one I even considered until today, very nice.
you can't predict injuries. this is pointless IMO. lots of guys would be good/upgraded if someone their equal (or at least took carry's away) got hurt.
Everyone around here is down on him, including me. However, I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that he'll consistently get drafted in the third round or earlier. The average FF player thinks they're getting Westbrook, and they're paying for it.
Sure McCoy's in a great spot with plenty of talent, would love to have him. But he went in the 2nd rd of a slow draft I'm currently doing. I see this thread as more of a guy that can be had in the 5th rd or later. Where Rice was generally drafted last year.To answer Traders re; Felix Jones, Love his talent and fully expected to target him this summer. Then he came to camp all bulked up. Dealbreaker. Can't remember a speed guy that put on lots of weight in the offseason that tore up the league that year. They always seem to lose a step and boom the hole closes on them. So I'm passing on Jones.Felix very well could be the guy that bucks that trend and you know Jerry's going to give him every chance. But it's a poor bet imo.
I see what you're saying with the whole "next Ray Rice" criteria. Jamal Charles is certainly no 4th - 5th rounder who went unproven as a rookie like Rice did his rookie year.
If the Cowboys gave Felix 250 touches, he would take on a ton of damage.
I don't see 250 touches for any cowboy RB. The best thing the cowboys can do this year is use all three of their backs. Each RB is very skilled on their own and each bring something to the table. They can all contribute to getting wins for the 'boys. It just wouldn't make football sense NOT to use them all in different situations and at different points in the game, imo. Besides, the word around fantasy circles is that felix is the future and Barber the past. So wouldn't that make Barber more of a 'Ray Rice candidate' then Felix considering Jones is going higher in adp's? Or Tashard Choice for that matter? FWIW, I don't actually know what their current adp's are, I'm just assuming Jones is higher. I also think, however, that even if they don't reach 250 touches individually, both Barber and Jones have good value as an RB3. With Choice being a good dynasty stash/waiver wire pickup.If the Cowboys gave Felix 250 touches, he would take on a ton of damage.
a lot of IF's with Jones..IF he stays healthy.
Ok, well in that case I submit - Ray Rice. He's the only player in the NFL that could possibly fit all of your criteria. Do his initials have to be RR too? Does he have to be Rice's exact size and weight? Eye color? Best fits the most important criteria...talent.
Rice didn't succeed because he was hyped. When KC passed on OL in the first they lost me on the o line.It's gotta be Jamal Charles.He's getting hyped up on a lot of fantasy boards the way Ray Rice was last year.He's got a GL vulture like Ray Rice had (Thomas Jones :: Willis McGahee).He showed he can take it to the house on any play like Ray Rice can.His team is likely to lean on the rushing attack with a good stable of RBs (Charles/TJ/McCluster :: Rice/McGahee/McClain).KC has improved their OL to be at least a "poor man's" version of BAL's OL.BAL and KC both have young QBs who are relatively new to their team.I'm the kind of drafter who bucks the traditional rankings. I'm picking 9th (12 teamer) and I'm strongly considering taking Jamal Charles in round 2 at 16th overall. I won't pass on Greene, Turner, Moss or DeAngelo Williams for him but I would take him over Stephen Jackson and Mendenhall. Charles is a huge risk pick (I know) but I'll just draft a lot of RBs to hedge the bet.I'm aiming for Shonn Greene 1.09 and Jamal Charles in early round 2.
