Who is... Tim Hightower? (1 Viewer)

[BigTex]

He was worth a flier in dynasty drafts before this game, but now his stock will be inflated too much. Many of his owners probably value him as equal to a 1st round rookie pick now.

As a dynasty owner, I'm considering him at the 1.7 spot my next pick is not until the 2.10 spot. He's hit my radar.

Wow

I've seen Torian go as high as 6 and no one even saw him play. Atleast you know this guy can play altough I wouldn't take him in the 1st but now the 2nd looks like a really smart move.

That doesnt make Hightower at the 1.7 a good pick. I could see him moving up into the mid/late 2nd, but mid first?

1.7 means you're drafting him over one of these:McFadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Forte, K. Smith, C. Johnson, Rice.

I surely wouldn't.

How many of these guys do you actually believe will be sitting there at the 1.7 pick? Seriously?

Same thing I was thinking. All of those guys were gone with the exception of Johnson at 1.07

Of course. That's my point. ONE of them will be left, and that one will be a better pick than Hightower at 1.07.As if I thought McFadden was dropping to 1.07...

I've read and reread your post and the word "these" gives that impression.

 

[Burning Sensation]

He was worth a flier in dynasty drafts before this game, but now his stock will be inflated too much. Many of his owners probably value him as equal to a 1st round rookie pick now.

As a dynasty owner, I'm considering him at the 1.7 spot my next pick is not until the 2.10 spot. He's hit my radar.

Wow

I've seen Torian go as high as 6 and no one even saw him play. Atleast you know this guy can play altough I wouldn't take him in the 1st but now the 2nd looks like a really smart move.

That doesnt make Hightower at the 1.7 a good pick. I could see him moving up into the mid/late 2nd, but mid first?

Would you pick one of the WR over him? (Rookie Draft) Where do you see him vs some of the other rooks?

I wouldn't take him in the 1st, I'd wait at least till my 2nd round pick and if he was there or was taken in the second just trade a future 2nd and maybe a prospect on you roster for him.

Fair enough, I'm picking 2.10 and doubt he'll be available. I started watching him when JWood started the thread about him and I'm a believer. Plus JWood (even though he's a Philly Fan ) normally has a pretty good feel for guys like this.

I bet Wood wouldnt advocate taking him with the 1.7 pick.

 

[BigTex]

He was worth a flier in dynasty drafts before this game, but now his stock will be inflated too much. Many of his owners probably value him as equal to a 1st round rookie pick now.

As a dynasty owner, I'm considering him at the 1.7 spot my next pick is not until the 2.10 spot. He's hit my radar.

Wow

I've seen Torian go as high as 6 and no one even saw him play. Atleast you know this guy can play altough I wouldn't take him in the 1st but now the 2nd looks like a really smart move.

That doesnt make Hightower at the 1.7 a good pick. I could see him moving up into the mid/late 2nd, but mid first?

Would you pick one of the WR over him? (Rookie Draft) Where do you see him vs some of the other rooks?

I wouldn't take him in the 1st, I'd wait at least till my 2nd round pick and if he was there or was taken in the second just trade a future 2nd and maybe a prospect on you roster for him.

Fair enough, I'm picking 2.10 and doubt he'll be available. I started watching him when JWood started the thread about him and I'm a believer. Plus JWood (even though he's a Philly Fan ) normally has a pretty good feel for guys like this.

I bet Wood wouldnt advocate taking him with the 1.7 pick.

LOL, it was Jeff not JWood, who knows you maybe right.

 

[Burning Sensation]

He was worth a flier in dynasty drafts before this game, but now his stock will be inflated too much. Many of his owners probably value him as equal to a 1st round rookie pick now.

As a dynasty owner, I'm considering him at the 1.7 spot my next pick is not until the 2.10 spot. He's hit my radar.

Wow

I've seen Torian go as high as 6 and no one even saw him play. Atleast you know this guy can play altough I wouldn't take him in the 1st but now the 2nd looks like a really smart move.

That doesnt make Hightower at the 1.7 a good pick. I could see him moving up into the mid/late 2nd, but mid first?

Would you pick one of the WR over him? (Rookie Draft) Where do you see him vs some of the other rooks?

I wouldn't take him in the 1st, I'd wait at least till my 2nd round pick and if he was there or was taken in the second just trade a future 2nd and maybe a prospect on you roster for him.

Fair enough, I'm picking 2.10 and doubt he'll be available. I started watching him when JWood started the thread about him and I'm a believer. Plus JWood (even though he's a Philly Fan ) normally has a pretty good feel for guys like this.

I bet Wood wouldnt advocate taking him with the 1.7 pick.

LOL, it was Jeff not JWood, who knows you maybe right.

Pasquino? he might suggest taking him at 1.7, but i would not listen to him.

 

[BigTex]

He was worth a flier in dynasty drafts before this game, but now his stock will be inflated too much. Many of his owners probably value him as equal to a 1st round rookie pick now.

As a dynasty owner, I'm considering him at the 1.7 spot my next pick is not until the 2.10 spot. He's hit my radar.

Wow

I've seen Torian go as high as 6 and no one even saw him play. Atleast you know this guy can play altough I wouldn't take him in the 1st but now the 2nd looks like a really smart move.

That doesnt make Hightower at the 1.7 a good pick. I could see him moving up into the mid/late 2nd, but mid first?

Would you pick one of the WR over him? (Rookie Draft) Where do you see him vs some of the other rooks?

Mcfadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Johnson, Forte, Smith, Rice, Jones, Slaton, Torrain Ryan and Flacco

Hardy, Avery, Thomas, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, Simpson

Keller

Definelty those guys, and maybe a small handful of others.

Flacco????? You must not be buying at all.

 

[BigTex]

Pasquino? he might suggest taking him at 1.7, but i would not listen to him.

LOL, yes, Jeff has an eye for talent.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Would you pick one of the WR over him? (Rookie Draft) Where do you see him vs some of the other rooks?

Mcfadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Johnson, Forte, Smith, Rice, Jones, Slaton, Torrain Ryan and FlaccoHardy, Avery, Thomas, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, SimpsonKellerDefinelty those guys, and maybe a small handful of others.

There is no way I'd take Slaton, Avery, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, or Simpson ahead of Hightower. Probably not Ryan or Flacco either (though that depends on the value QBs have in your league). His upside, quite simply, is far superior to those guys. And we've already seen him play & look good, plus we have people comparing him to MBIII. Of course, I was lucky enough to get him in the 4th last week thanks to this thread.....

 

[Burning Sensation]

He was worth a flier in dynasty drafts before this game, but now his stock will be inflated too much. Many of his owners probably value him as equal to a 1st round rookie pick now.

As a dynasty owner, I'm considering him at the 1.7 spot my next pick is not until the 2.10 spot. He's hit my radar.

Wow

I've seen Torian go as high as 6 and no one even saw him play. Atleast you know this guy can play altough I wouldn't take him in the 1st but now the 2nd looks like a really smart move.

That doesnt make Hightower at the 1.7 a good pick. I could see him moving up into the mid/late 2nd, but mid first?

Would you pick one of the WR over him? (Rookie Draft) Where do you see him vs some of the other rooks?

Mcfadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Johnson, Forte, Smith, Rice, Jones, Slaton, Torrain Ryan and Flacco

Hardy, Avery, Thomas, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, Simpson

Keller

Definelty those guys, and maybe a small handful of others.

Flacco????? You must not be buying at all.

Flacco was a first round QB, and i was high on him from the begining. Hightower is a 5th round pick, who has had a good camp and 5 preseason carries. The odds that Flacco is a starter in this league three years from now is much better than Hightower.

 

[BigTex]

in 1 of my leagues on May 12 he went 2.12 non IDP and no PPR (all FBG owners)2nd May 15 he went 3.11 non IDP and no PPR (mostly FBG but not as active as previous league)3rd May 15 he went 4.02 (highly competitive league) and he was just trade 2 days ago. Just some parameters for you but as you can see this was 2 months ago.HTH

Thanks, from 2 months ago, he'll definately go higher today.

 

[BigTex]

Would you pick one of the WR over him? (Rookie Draft) Where do you see him vs some of the other rooks?

Mcfadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Johnson, Forte, Smith, Rice, Jones, Slaton, Torrain Ryan and FlaccoHardy, Avery, Thomas, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, SimpsonKellerDefinelty those guys, and maybe a small handful of others.

There is no way I'd take Slaton, Avery, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, or Simpson ahead of Hightower. Probably not Ryan or Flacco either (though that depends on the value QBs have in your league). His upside, quite simply, is far superior to those guys. And we've already seen him play & look good, plus we have people comparing him to MBIII. Of course, I was lucky enough to get him in the 4th last week thanks to this thread.....

I'm with Fox on this one, good job of snagging him when you did.

 

[LawFitz]

Took him in the 15th round of a start up dynasty last week.

McFadden went in the 2nd round to another team and we took Stewart in rd 4 and Hardy in rd 8.

The McFadden owner has offered us DMac/M. Bush/J. Nelson -4- Stewart/Hightower/Hardy. This is a tough call. We're really high on DMac but after seeing MBIV tonight it's hard to pull the trigger on this deal.

Like others have mentioned, dude looked plenty quick to me. And did you guys notice that he seemed to hold his own in pass protection? I can see why the scout noted earlier in this thread and the coaching staff are so high on him. MBIII and Terrell Davis were late round picks. It's certainly not unheard of to find diamonds in the rough.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Would you pick one of the WR over him? (Rookie Draft) Where do you see him vs some of the other rooks?

Mcfadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Johnson, Forte, Smith, Rice, Jones, Slaton, Torrain Ryan and FlaccoHardy, Avery, Thomas, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, SimpsonKellerDefinelty those guys, and maybe a small handful of others.

There is no way I'd take Slaton, Avery, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, or Simpson ahead of Hightower. Probably not Ryan or Flacco either (though that depends on the value QBs have in your league). His upside, quite simply, is far superior to those guys. And we've already seen him play & look good, plus we have people comparing him to MBIII. Of course, I was lucky enough to get him in the 4th last week thanks to this thread.....

Im all for using practice and preseason when trying to gauge a rookies value, but you guys are reading way too much into it.

 

[BigTex]

He was worth a flier in dynasty drafts before this game, but now his stock will be inflated too much. Many of his owners probably value him as equal to a 1st round rookie pick now.

As a dynasty owner, I'm considering him at the 1.7 spot my next pick is not until the 2.10 spot. He's hit my radar.

Wow

I've seen Torian go as high as 6 and no one even saw him play. Atleast you know this guy can play altough I wouldn't take him in the 1st but now the 2nd looks like a really smart move.

That doesnt make Hightower at the 1.7 a good pick. I could see him moving up into the mid/late 2nd, but mid first?

Would you pick one of the WR over him? (Rookie Draft) Where do you see him vs some of the other rooks?

Mcfadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Johnson, Forte, Smith, Rice, Jones, Slaton, Torrain Ryan and Flacco

Hardy, Avery, Thomas, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, Simpson

Keller

Definelty those guys, and maybe a small handful of others.

Flacco????? You must not be buying at all.

Flacco was a first round QB, and i was high on him from the begining. Hightower is a 5th round pick, who has had a good camp and 5 preseason carries. The odds that Flacco is a starter in this league three years from now is much better than Hightower.

I've yet to see Flacco play and considering who drafted him.....................well, QBs have a longer learning curve than RBs and this HT kid just may have something working.

 

[moderated]

Would you pick one of the WR over him? (Rookie Draft) Where do you see him vs some of the other rooks?

Mcfadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Johnson, Forte, Smith, Rice, Jones, Slaton, Torrain Ryan and FlaccoHardy, Avery, Thomas, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, SimpsonKellerDefinelty those guys, and maybe a small handful of others.

There is no way I'd take Slaton, Avery, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, or Simpson ahead of Hightower. Probably not Ryan or Flacco either (though that depends on the value QBs have in your league). His upside, quite simply, is far superior to those guys. And we've already seen him play & look good, plus we have people comparing him to MBIII. Of course, I was lucky enough to get him in the 4th last week thanks to this thread.....

Im all for using practice and preseason when trying to gauge a rookies value, but you guys are reading way too much into it.

This is getting outright ridiculous.No matter what he's not starting for Arizona unless Edge gets hurt. Also there is a very very good chance they draft a RB high next year.A few camp practices and 5 carries in a preseason game from a 5th rounder (or 6th don't remember for sure) has all of a sudden made him worth a mid-first round rookie pick.WHOA, SLOW DOWN FELLAS. I like hightower and think hes a decent prospect, but people are getting far too carried away here.

 

[awesomeness]

Would you pick one of the WR over him? (Rookie Draft) Where do you see him vs some of the other rooks?

Mcfadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Johnson, Forte, Smith, Rice, Jones, Slaton, Torrain Ryan and FlaccoHardy, Avery, Thomas, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, SimpsonKellerDefinelty those guys, and maybe a small handful of others.

There is no way I'd take Slaton, Avery, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, or Simpson ahead of Hightower. Probably not Ryan or Flacco either (though that depends on the value QBs have in your league). His upside, quite simply, is far superior to those guys. And we've already seen him play & look good, plus we have people comparing him to MBIII. Of course, I was lucky enough to get him in the 4th last week thanks to this thread.....

Im all for using practice and preseason when trying to gauge a rookies value, but you guys are reading way too much into it.

This is getting outright ridiculous.No matter what he's not starting for Arizona unless Edge gets hurt. Also there is a very very good chance they draft a RB high next year.A few camp practices and 5 carries in a preseason game from a 5th rounder (or 6th don't remember for sure) has all of a sudden made him worth a mid-first round rookie pick.WHOA, SLOW DOWN FELLAS. I like hightower and think hes a decent prospect, but people are getting far too carried away here.

I'm guessing you havent seen any of his 5 carries in the pre-season yet. They were some kind of special.

 

[BigTex]

Would you pick one of the WR over him? (Rookie Draft) Where do you see him vs some of the other rooks?

Mcfadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Johnson, Forte, Smith, Rice, Jones, Slaton, Torrain Ryan and FlaccoHardy, Avery, Thomas, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, SimpsonKellerDefinelty those guys, and maybe a small handful of others.

There is no way I'd take Slaton, Avery, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, or Simpson ahead of Hightower. Probably not Ryan or Flacco either (though that depends on the value QBs have in your league). His upside, quite simply, is far superior to those guys. And we've already seen him play & look good, plus we have people comparing him to MBIII. Of course, I was lucky enough to get him in the 4th last week thanks to this thread.....

Im all for using practice and preseason when trying to gauge a rookies value, but you guys are reading way too much into it.

This is getting outright ridiculous.No matter what he's not starting for Arizona unless Edge gets hurt. Also there is a very very good chance they draft a RB high next year.A few camp practices and 5 carries in a preseason game from a 5th rounder (or 6th don't remember for sure) has all of a sudden made him worth a mid-first round rookie pick.WHOA, SLOW DOWN FELLAS. I like hightower and think hes a decent prospect, but people are getting far too carried away here.

There's plenty of room on this train, get on while you can.

 

[prymetyme25]

Would you pick one of the WR over him? (Rookie Draft) Where do you see him vs some of the other rooks?

Mcfadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Johnson, Forte, Smith, Rice, Jones, Slaton, Torrain Ryan and FlaccoHardy, Avery, Thomas, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, SimpsonKellerDefinelty those guys, and maybe a small handful of others.

There is no way I'd take Slaton, Avery, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, or Simpson ahead of Hightower. Probably not Ryan or Flacco either (though that depends on the value QBs have in your league). His upside, quite simply, is far superior to those guys. And we've already seen him play & look good, plus we have people comparing him to MBIII. Of course, I was lucky enough to get him in the 4th last week thanks to this thread.....

Im all for using practice and preseason when trying to gauge a rookies value, but you guys are reading way too much into it.

This is getting outright ridiculous.No matter what he's not starting for Arizona unless Edge gets hurt. Also there is a very very good chance they draft a RB high next year.A few camp practices and 5 carries in a preseason game from a 5th rounder (or 6th don't remember for sure) has all of a sudden made him worth a mid-first round rookie pick.WHOA, SLOW DOWN FELLAS. I like hightower and think hes a decent prospect, but people are getting far too carried away here.

I'm guessing you havent seen any of his 5 carries in the pre-season yet. They were some kind of special.

Plus I dont know about everyone else but the fact that he only got 5 carries says something to me too.

 

[moderated]

Would you pick one of the WR over him? (Rookie Draft) Where do you see him vs some of the other rooks?

Mcfadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Johnson, Forte, Smith, Rice, Jones, Slaton, Torrain Ryan and FlaccoHardy, Avery, Thomas, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, SimpsonKellerDefinelty those guys, and maybe a small handful of others.

There is no way I'd take Slaton, Avery, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, or Simpson ahead of Hightower. Probably not Ryan or Flacco either (though that depends on the value QBs have in your league). His upside, quite simply, is far superior to those guys. And we've already seen him play & look good, plus we have people comparing him to MBIII. Of course, I was lucky enough to get him in the 4th last week thanks to this thread.....

Im all for using practice and preseason when trying to gauge a rookies value, but you guys are reading way too much into it.

This is getting outright ridiculous.No matter what he's not starting for Arizona unless Edge gets hurt. Also there is a very very good chance they draft a RB high next year.A few camp practices and 5 carries in a preseason game from a 5th rounder (or 6th don't remember for sure) has all of a sudden made him worth a mid-first round rookie pick.WHOA, SLOW DOWN FELLAS. I like hightower and think hes a decent prospect, but people are getting far too carried away here.

There's plenty of room on this train, get on while you can.

I'm on it to a degree, but to a realistic degree.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Prymetyme, Awesomeness, Michael Fox and Big Tex, do you guys all own him in dynasty leagues already? If not, would you trade a first round rookie pick next year for him?

 

[RenegadeGM]

He was worth a flier in dynasty drafts before this game, but now his stock will be inflated too much. Many of his owners probably value him as equal to a 1st round rookie pick now.

As a dynasty owner, I'm considering him at the 1.7 spot my next pick is not until the 2.10 spot. He's hit my radar.

Wow

I've seen Torian go as high as 6 and no one even saw him play. Atleast you know this guy can play altough I wouldn't take him in the 1st but now the 2nd looks like a really smart move.

That doesnt make Hightower at the 1.7 a good pick. I could see him moving up into the mid/late 2nd, but mid first?

1.7 means you're drafting him over one of these:McFadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Forte, K. Smith, C. Johnson, Rice.

I surely wouldn't.

How many of these guys do you actually believe will be sitting there at the 1.7 pick? Seriously?

Same thing I was thinking. All of those guys were gone with the exception of Johnson at 1.07

Of course. That's my point. ONE of them will be left, and that one will be a better pick than Hightower at 1.07.As if I thought McFadden was dropping to 1.07...

I've read and reread your post and the word "these" gives that impression.

Correct... if you're taking him at 1.07 you're taking him over whoever is left from the group listed. They're the players going 1-7 in most leagues drafting right now. Of course it won't be a guy like McFadden, but you would be taking him over someone from that group, as the group is seven players.Not saying the guy is terrible or anything... just wouldn't take him over the 7th player from that group of seven.

 

[awesomeness]

Prymetyme, Awesomeness, Michael Fox and Big Tex, do you guys all own him in dynasty leagues already? If not, would you trade a first round rookie pick next year for him?

i was sarcastic in my post. I own him in one league simply as a handcuff. I wouldn't touch him til mid round 2 or round 3 in pretty much all scoring systems.

 

[prymetyme25]

Prymetyme, Awesomeness and Big Tex, do you guys all own him in dynasty leagues already? If not, would you trade a first round rookie pick for him next year?

I just aquired him/2nd for T. Bell last week. And no I wouldn't but I can bet you if you have him someone would. Now if Edge went down and he came in and really took off with the job why not. Right now thats what you would have to pay for Grant right?

 

[BigTex]

Prymetyme, Awesomeness, Michael Fox and Big Tex, do you guys all own him in dynasty leagues already? If not, would you trade a first round rookie pick next year for him?

No, my draft is this weekend. It depends. I'm strongly considering him at the 1.7 pick. He's closer to starting than C. Johnson or Rice.

 

[BigTex]

Prymetyme, Awesomeness and Big Tex, do you guys all own him in dynasty leagues already? If not, would you trade a first round rookie pick for him next year?

I just aquired him/2nd for T. Bell last week. And no I wouldn't but I can bet you if you have him someone would. Now if Edge went down and he came in and really took off with the job why not. Right now thats what you would have to pay for Grant right?

Agreed, Edge has a greater chance of going down than Fatdale or Willis, he's age says his days are numbered.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Prymetyme, Awesomeness, Michael Fox and Big Tex, do you guys all own him in dynasty leagues already? If not, would you trade a first round rookie pick next year for him?

i was sarcastic in my post. I own him in one league simply as a handcuff. I wouldn't touch him til mid round 2 or round 3 in pretty much all scoring systems.

OK, i thought you might have been, but after reading what some of the others were saying, i figured you might be serious. I am thinking about offering him up for a first next year, but i dont like sending insulting trade offers, so i am trying to see if anyone would actually consider it.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Prymetyme, Awesomeness and Big Tex, do you guys all own him in dynasty leagues already? If not, would you trade a first round rookie pick for him next year?

I just aquired him/2nd for T. Bell last week. And no I wouldn't but I can bet you if you have him someone would. Now if Edge went down and he came in and really took off with the job why not. Right now thats what you would have to pay for Grant right?

Agreed, Edge has a greater chance of going down than Fatdale or Willis, he's age says his days are numbered.

Talent over situation in dynasty. I highly doubt the Cardinals would go into next season with Hightower as their starter, even if he played well in his limited action this year.

 

[prymetyme25]

Prymetyme, Awesomeness, Michael Fox and Big Tex, do you guys all own him in dynasty leagues already? If not, would you trade a first round rookie pick next year for him?

i was sarcastic in my post. I own him in one league simply as a handcuff. I wouldn't touch him til mid round 2 or round 3 in pretty much all scoring systems.

OK, i thought you might have been, but after reading what some of the others were saying, i figured you might be serious. I am thinking about offering him up for a first next year, but i dont like sending insulting trade offers, so i am trying to see if anyone would actually consider it.

Honestly I've see an owner pay a 1st for M. Bell when it was just hype. Last year I got Roddy White/2nd round pick for S. Young before the season started. If you have him all you have to do is wait and they will come to you if they think he is available. SerioulslyThis deal just went down on the 4th in a league i'm in:Brett Farve/N. Burleson for J. Harrison/HightowerAnything is possible

 

[BigTex]

Prymetyme, Awesomeness and Big Tex, do you guys all own him in dynasty leagues already? If not, would you trade a first round rookie pick for him next year?

I just aquired him/2nd for T. Bell last week. And no I wouldn't but I can bet you if you have him someone would. Now if Edge went down and he came in and really took off with the job why not. Right now thats what you would have to pay for Grant right?

Agreed, Edge has a greater chance of going down than Fatdale or Willis, he's age says his days are numbered.

Talent over situation in dynasty. I highly doubt the Cardinals would go into next season with Hightower as their starter, even if he played well in his limited action this year.

Pure speculation my friend. You don't know this for a fact and it's just not situation. Not really sure if the talent level from CJIII/Rice/HT is all that great. Also, I probably would not give up a future 1st to trade for him but I may use it to draft him.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Prymetyme, Awesomeness, Michael Fox and Big Tex, do you guys all own him in dynasty leagues already? If not, would you trade a first round rookie pick next year for him?

i was sarcastic in my post. I own him in one league simply as a handcuff. I wouldn't touch him til mid round 2 or round 3 in pretty much all scoring systems.

OK, i thought you might have been, but after reading what some of the others were saying, i figured you might be serious. I am thinking about offering him up for a first next year, but i dont like sending insulting trade offers, so i am trying to see if anyone would actually consider it.

Honestly I've see an owner pay a 1st for M. Bell when it was just hype. Last year I got Roddy White/2nd round pick for S. Young before the season started. If you have him all you have to do is wait and they will come to you if they think he is available. SerioulslyThis deal just went down on the 4th in a league i'm in:Brett Farve/N. Burleson for J. Harrison/HightowerAnything is possible

You examples are similar to Hightower, but Denver RB's will always be overhyped as long as Shanahan is there.Ultimately i would love to wait for them to come to me for Hightower, but i want to strike while the iron is hot.

 

[Penguin]

Talent over situation in dynasty. I highly doubt the Cardinals would go into next season with Hightower as their starter, even if he played well in his limited action this year.

I agree, I'd be very surprised if Hightower ends up being the future bellcow in Arizona.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

His upside, quite simply, is far superior to those guys. And we've already seen him play & look good, plus we have people comparing him to MBIII.

Comparing Hightower to MBIII is a huge stretch.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Would you pick one of the WR over him? (Rookie Draft) Where do you see him vs some of the other rooks?

Mcfadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Johnson, Forte, Smith, Rice, Jones, Slaton, Torrain Ryan and FlaccoHardy, Avery, Thomas, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, SimpsonKellerDefinelty those guys, and maybe a small handful of others.

There is no way I'd take Slaton, Avery, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, or Simpson ahead of Hightower. Probably not Ryan or Flacco either (though that depends on the value QBs have in your league). His upside, quite simply, is far superior to those guys. And we've already seen him play & look good, plus we have people comparing him to MBIII. Of course, I was lucky enough to get him in the 4th last week thanks to this thread.....

Im all for using practice and preseason when trying to gauge a rookies value, but you guys are reading way too much into it.

This is getting outright ridiculous.No matter what he's not starting for Arizona unless Edge gets hurt. Also there is a very very good chance they draft a RB high next year.A few camp practices and 5 carries in a preseason game from a 5th rounder (or 6th don't remember for sure) has all of a sudden made him worth a mid-first round rookie pick.WHOA, SLOW DOWN FELLAS. I like hightower and think hes a decent prospect, but people are getting far too carried away here.

I can't believe I am agreeing with moderated. This hype is just crazy after 5 carries and a couple of weeks of camp.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

Talent over situation in dynasty. I highly doubt the Cardinals would go into next season with Hightower as their starter, even if he played well in his limited action this year.

I agree, I'd be very surprised if Hightower ends up being the future bellcow in Arizona.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Prymetyme, Awesomeness, Michael Fox and Big Tex, do you guys all own him in dynasty leagues already? If not, would you trade a first round rookie pick next year for him?

Absolutely not. But I also wouldn't trade a 1st rd rookie pick next year for: Slaton, Avery, Royal, Sweed, Bennett, Simpson, Ryan or Flacco. And those are the guys we were comparing him to -- not to next year's rookie crop.Slaton - size of an earthworm. Not as big as Reggie Bush, not as explosive. Based on his size, he has miniscule upside.Avery - injured and not very polished anyway. How often do 1st rd WRs fail? All the time.Royal - primarily a returner right now, will he every be a #1 WR? If not, how much upside does he have?Sweed - Sitting behind Holmes and Ward. Doubtful that he starts for another 2 years. When he does, will he be any good?Bennett - he's on the Bears. Horrible offense. Might have upside - I defer to someone who knows more about him. Wasn't on my radar.Simpson - extremely unpolished, but I like his upside.Ryan/Flacco - it's very easy to get starting QBs on the cheap in my league. So I wouldn't draft these guys early (they went in the 3rd and 4th rd in our rookie draft; I got Flacco at 4.09 and Hightower at 4.02)So that's my breakdown. Some leagues HEAVILY pay for starting RB talent. My league fits the bill - so perhaps I'm a bit more extreme in valuing a guy like Hightower. I'd be willing to draft him in the late 2nd or maybe early 3rd, after the run on RBs, top WRs (Hardy, Thomas, etc), and IDP-ers. Hope that clears things up.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

His upside, quite simply, is far superior to those guys. And we've already seen him play & look good, plus we have people comparing him to MBIII.

Comparing Hightower to MBIII is a huge stretch.

I didn't compare him to MBIII, the ARI coaching staff did.Please keep up Anthony.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

His upside, quite simply, is far superior to those guys. And we've already seen him play & look good, plus we have people comparing him to MBIII.

Comparing Hightower to MBIII is a huge stretch.

I didn't compare him to MBIII, the ARI coaching staff did.Please keep up Anthony.

It's a huge stretch no matter who did the comparing.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

His upside, quite simply, is far superior to those guys. And we've already seen him play & look good, plus we have people comparing him to MBIII.

Comparing Hightower to MBIII is a huge stretch.

I didn't compare him to MBIII, the ARI coaching staff did.Please keep up Anthony.

It's a huge stretch no matter who did the comparing.

Touche.

 

[silentmark]

5 rushes 23 yards and 1 TD in preseason = stud sleeper of the year!!!

So don't draft him. What do you want from us?If Edge goes down or underperforms, which frankly is likely at his age, this kid will plug into your RB2 more than nicely.

i own Hightower as a handcuff in one of my leagues. People are speaking as if he's the 2nd coming in here. I'd be very surprised to see him get 50 FPTs this year.

I think more folks are looking at from a dynasty perspective, not redraft.

 

[TheFanatic]

5 rushes 23 yards and 1 TD in preseason = stud sleeper of the year!!!

4.6 YPC? TD? Gave the kid a few carries and he made the most of them. Why is it that the Coaching staff didn't feel that the kid needed more work? Are they happy with what they saw?

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

5 rushes 23 yards and 1 TD in preseason = stud sleeper of the year!!!

4.6 YPC? TD? Gave the kid a few carries and he made the most of them. Why is it that the Coaching staff didn't feel that the kid needed more work? Are they happy with what they saw?

Would you want to put your starting RB at risk in the 1st preseason game?

 

[TheFanatic]

5 rushes 23 yards and 1 TD in preseason = stud sleeper of the year!!!

4.6 YPC? TD? Gave the kid a few carries and he made the most of them. Why is it that the Coaching staff didn't feel that the kid needed more work? Are they happy with what they saw?

Would you want to put your starting RB at risk in the 1st preseason game?

Let's compare his numbers to a couple of other rookies:Hightower 5/23, 1 TD (2 catches for 11)Forte 7/25 (3 catches for 10)Rice 6/12 (4 catches for 17)J. Charles 4/13 (1 catch for 12)K. Smith 8/22 (no catches)Very similar sample sizes. Three of these guys are going much higher than Hightower. We have apples to apples here and it seems that Hightower is the best apple...

 

[KellysHeroes]

Tim Hightower is 7 feet tall, and shots fire balls from his.... ah, you all rememeber the movie

 

[joffer]

4 pages already? this thread has Reshard Lee potential

 

[meeka]

5 rushes 23 yards and 1 TD in preseason = stud sleeper of the year!!!

4.6 YPC? TD? Gave the kid a few carries and he made the most of them. Why is it that the Coaching staff didn't feel that the kid needed more work? Are they happy with what they saw?

Would you want to put your starting RB at risk in the 1st preseason game?

Let's compare his numbers to a couple of other rookies:Hightower 5/23, 1 TD (2 catches for 11)Forte 7/25 (3 catches for 10)Rice 6/12 (4 catches for 17)J. Charles 4/13 (1 catch for 12)K. Smith 8/22 (no catches)Very similar sample sizes. Three of these guys are going much higher than Hightower. We have apples to apples here and it seems that Hightower is the best apple...

I think we might need a bigger sample size. Also, comparing players that played in different games against a wide variety of defenses is not really apples to apples. The tough thing is that he showed a reason to get excited about his skill set, and since we only have 5 pre-season carries to make a judgment on we are forced to make a huge leap of faith to assume that this will continue to be his success rate. Lets just take this as a positive first step and try to refrain from making too many concrete opinions about his future.So far, so good.

 

[T Bell]

Tim Hightower is the guy who was barely mentioned by NFL Draftguys in their rankings, and yet who Bloom drafted in Red Dog in the 3rd round as the RB12 back in early May.

I think Bloom's holding out.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Tim Hightower is the guy who was barely mentioned by NFL Draftguys in their rankings, and yet who Bloom drafted in Red Dog in the 3rd round as the RB12 back in early May.

I think Bloom's holding out.

I traded Lendale for Edge during the rookie draft when halos took Chris Johnson, and wanted to protect my investment. He definitely did not seem to be dancing as much last night, but I'm not getting the anointing oils out yet.

 

[T Bell]

Tim Hightower is the guy who was barely mentioned by NFL Draftguys in their rankings, and yet who Bloom drafted in Red Dog in the 3rd round as the RB12 back in early May.

I think Bloom's holding out.

I traded Lendale for Edge during the rookie draft when halos took Chris Johnson, and wanted to protect my investment. He definitely did not seem to be dancing as much last night, but I'm not getting the anointing oils out yet.

Me neither, though he certainly has my attention. He actually got drafted in both of my dynasty leagues, so picking him up is not an option anyway. It's all in fun, GB. You gotta love these 1st preseason game rookgasms.

 

[sholditch]

He was worth a flier in dynasty drafts before this game, but now his stock will be inflated too much. Many of his owners probably value him as equal to a 1st round rookie pick now.

As a dynasty owner, I'm considering him at the 1.7 spot my next pick is not until the 2.10 spot. He's hit my radar.

Wow

I've seen Torian go as high as 6 and no one even saw him play. Atleast you know this guy can play altough I wouldn't take him in the 1st but now the 2nd looks like a really smart move.

That doesnt make Hightower at the 1.7 a good pick. I could see him moving up into the mid/late 2nd, but mid first?

1.7 means you're drafting him over one of these:McFadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, Forte, K. Smith, C. Johnson, Rice.

I surely wouldn't.

How many of these guys do you actually believe will be sitting there at the 1.7 pick? Seriously?

at least 1. Math is your friend.

 

[TheFanatic]

5 rushes 23 yards and 1 TD in preseason = stud sleeper of the year!!!

4.6 YPC? TD? Gave the kid a few carries and he made the most of them. Why is it that the Coaching staff didn't feel that the kid needed more work? Are they happy with what they saw?

Would you want to put your starting RB at risk in the 1st preseason game?

Let's compare his numbers to a couple of other rookies:Hightower 5/23, 1 TD (2 catches for 11)Forte 7/25 (3 catches for 10)Rice 6/12 (4 catches for 17)J. Charles 4/13 (1 catch for 12)K. Smith 8/22 (no catches)Very similar sample sizes. Three of these guys are going much higher than Hightower. We have apples to apples here and it seems that Hightower is the best apple...

I think we might need a bigger sample size. Also, comparing players that played in different games against a wide variety of defenses is not really apples to apples. The tough thing is that he showed a reason to get excited about his skill set, and since we only have 5 pre-season carries to make a judgment on we are forced to make a huge leap of faith to assume that this will continue to be his success rate. Lets just take this as a positive first step and try to refrain from making too many concrete opinions about his future.So far, so good.

Sure the sample size is small, but to mention different games against different defenses is a little naive isn't it? We will never be able to line these guys up behind the same line to play the same defenses. These guys have to be compared against different D's in different games. A couple of these guys might play against the same D in preseason, but that would further limit the sample size. We don't get to compare these guys in a vacuum. Not seeing the rest of the games I don't know if the other guys played against 1st string D's but that's about as congruent you can get with the D's is if they played against the starters or not...

 

[meeka]

5 rushes 23 yards and 1 TD in preseason = stud sleeper of the year!!!

4.6 YPC? TD? Gave the kid a few carries and he made the most of them. Why is it that the Coaching staff didn't feel that the kid needed more work? Are they happy with what they saw?

Would you want to put your starting RB at risk in the 1st preseason game?

Let's compare his numbers to a couple of other rookies:Hightower 5/23, 1 TD (2 catches for 11)Forte 7/25 (3 catches for 10)Rice 6/12 (4 catches for 17)J. Charles 4/13 (1 catch for 12)K. Smith 8/22 (no catches)Very similar sample sizes. Three of these guys are going much higher than Hightower. We have apples to apples here and it seems that Hightower is the best apple...

I think we might need a bigger sample size. Also, comparing players that played in different games against a wide variety of defenses is not really apples to apples. The tough thing is that he showed a reason to get excited about his skill set, and since we only have 5 pre-season carries to make a judgment on we are forced to make a huge leap of faith to assume that this will continue to be his success rate. Lets just take this as a positive first step and try to refrain from making too many concrete opinions about his future.So far, so good.

Sure the sample size is small, but to mention different games against different defenses is a little naive isn't it? We will never be able to line these guys up behind the same line to play the same defenses. These guys have to be compared against different D's in different games. A couple of these guys might play against the same D in preseason, but that would further limit the sample size. We don't get to compare these guys in a vacuum. Not seeing the rest of the games I don't know if the other guys played against 1st string D's but that's about as congruent you can get with the D's is if they played against the starters or not...

How is taking the D they played against into context naive? It seems naive to me just to take the stats at face value without digging into them close enough to see when in the game and against who were those stats compiled.I understand that we will never be able to compare all of these guys in a vacuum, but that does not mean that you do not take these things into consideration. If a running back has 5 carries for 20 yards against the Vikings 1st string defense that to me is better than 5/20 against the Lions to start the second half. All just part of the puzzle.