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Who Will Be the Next Dallas Cowboys Head Coach (1 Viewer)
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I dont see Cowher, he's a huge cowboy hater from way back. I think he's still bitter about the beatdown they took in the super bowl
CrossEyed
Footballguy
More than that, no way would Cowher ever coach for a guy like Jones. He wants more control, not less.
2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
Wow, this is a lousy poll.
JbizzleMan
Footballguy
If he wants control he should buy a franchise AND coach it....
ROBOPUNTER
Footballguy
checked em all
I dont get that? Parcells had pretty much free reign from what i recall? He coached the team how he wanted, played who he wanted. Not who jerry wanted.
Flying Spaghetti Monster
Footballguy
If Parcells and Jones can coexist Cowher and Jones can do it also.
Yes, that's where I'm hopeful. Where I'm not is that it seems very likely that Jerry overstepped the bounds he and Parcells agreed to and that's why I think he left when he did.
I've hated cowher for a long time, i dont think i could bring myself to cheer for that big-chin phony
2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
Yeah, he wouldn't fit in with the Cowboys. He actually won playoff games.I've hated cowher for a long time, i dont think i could bring myself to cheer for that big-chin phony
netnalp
Footballguy
As Keyshawn mentioned this week, Jerry kept coming into the locker room trying to grab some limelight and Parcells would kick him out. Parcells was ousted after that season. Jerry wants to be the first person people think of when the Cowboys are mentioned, to do that he needs a coach that is willing to give Jerry a lot of credit for the teams accomplishments. I believe most talented coaches, ones that can provide the leadership & discipline the team needs, have an ego too and won't stand for Jerry mugging for the cameras, trying to say he's a leader of the team and taking undo credit for the teams success.Jones is like Al Davis, but Davis has more football cred to his resume.I don't think it will be Cowher or any coach that can pick which opening he wants to fill. I think it will be a guy from college coach or an NFL coordinator looking to progress their career or a past head coach that was fired and is looking to get back into the NFL.Some possibilities might be Gruden, a Schottenheimer, Jim Fassel, Nick Saban. If UNC faces harsh penalties, maybe Butch Davis gets out like Pete Caroll did.I dont get that? Parcells had pretty much free reign from what i recall? He coached the team how he wanted, played who he wanted. Not who jerry wanted.
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bill bates hits hard
Footballguy
its gruden. wade will ot be here. no way.
Whizzinator
Footballguy
I could imagine Tony Dungy being able to instill discipline while still following Jerry....he did it for Polian.
I can't imagine he'd want the job though
I can't imagine he'd want the job though
road warrior
Footballguy
At least if Dungy comes in, he can tell Romo that he sucks to his face instead of behind the NBC cameras. And whoever said Parcells' was kicked out of Dallas is clueless. Jerry wanted him to stay. Parcells' is nothing more than a mercenary. Ask the Dolphins and Jets about that one.
Brian Schottenheimer or Gruden
I think Schottenhiemer will be a great HC for the Cowboys. He can bring over a Def cord (lb,db) coach from NYJ. They run the 3-4 or some form of it. I really like his attitude and no BS mentality. I think he would want to draft some OL and run the ball. Loved him on Hard Knocks and think he can bring some of Ryans no BS approach. I think he will be able to find some good coaches to surround him with because of his Dad's connections. Who knows, maybe Marty becomes some sort of consultent.
Gruden really wants to get back to coaching bad imo. I love his attitude! I would love him to give a DB the "Chucky stare" for blowing an assignment or not giving maximum effort. Just concerned about his knowledge of the 3-4 system.
Cowher is a pipe dream for us Cowboy fans. I just dont see him coming to the Big D and dealing with Jerry's BS. Stephen needs to take over the GM duties for this to ever happen. He would be my first choice, but no way.
Bottom line whoever comes in next, we need a tough no nonsense guy that holds the team accountable. These guys need a disciplinarian!
I think Schottenhiemer will be a great HC for the Cowboys. He can bring over a Def cord (lb,db) coach from NYJ. They run the 3-4 or some form of it. I really like his attitude and no BS mentality. I think he would want to draft some OL and run the ball. Loved him on Hard Knocks and think he can bring some of Ryans no BS approach. I think he will be able to find some good coaches to surround him with because of his Dad's connections. Who knows, maybe Marty becomes some sort of consultent.
Gruden really wants to get back to coaching bad imo. I love his attitude! I would love him to give a DB the "Chucky stare" for blowing an assignment or not giving maximum effort. Just concerned about his knowledge of the 3-4 system.
Cowher is a pipe dream for us Cowboy fans. I just dont see him coming to the Big D and dealing with Jerry's BS. Stephen needs to take over the GM duties for this to ever happen. He would be my first choice, but no way.
Bottom line whoever comes in next, we need a tough no nonsense guy that holds the team accountable. These guys need a disciplinarian!
netnalp
Footballguy
Guess Keyshawn is clueless he implied it and didn't disagree when one of the other guys said Parcells was "ousted" after that season. I buy that more than if Jerry or Parcells were to say Jerry wanted him to stay.Silver on the otherhand says the split was over money:
"The best thing for Cowboys fans is that Jones will take much of the money that comes pouring in and put it back into his product. He'll do the same with the extra cash he didn't have to pay his former coach after Bill Parcells blinked first last January and resigned without a buyout. (Yeah, I know it wasn't reported that way, but it was a staredown, and Jones won.)" http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writ...rankings/1.html
A question I have is how long can Cowher stay out of coaching before opinion of him changes to he's been away from the game too long?
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Grigs Allmoon
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Before or after you went out to the playground for recess?ROBOPUNTER said:
road warrior
Footballguy
Look, being a Cowboys fan, I heard the presser from Jerry after Bill walked. Is he to be taken at his word? Who knows, but looking at the Tuna's track record, I'll give Jerrah the benefit of the doubt on this one.Now let's talk about Me-Shawns cred. He got booted off his own team mid season by Gruden and swears he did nothing wrong. Yea, top receivers (in his own mind) get kicked off a team for no reason... and then lie about it after.
I like where I stand in this debate.
netnalp
Footballguy
I like my side as well. There's Keyshawn's comments. The SI article I linked. Jone's drunken rant of Parcells. Jone's feud with Jimmy Johnson. Disrespect he showed Landry.
"And that is why new Cowboys owner Jerry Jones ‘ sudden firing of coach Landry over the weekend before bothering to discuss the matter with him should stun and infuriate people who don’t even follow professional sports."
http://www.knowyourdallascowboys.com/2010/...res-tom-landry/
Jone's actions show the type of person he is, and I believe what his actions say not his mouth.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
I don't think it will be Garret, but it probably will be a coordinator rather than any of the choices listed.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
The Cowboys have been to more Super Bowls and more playoff games then any team in NFL history. They also have the most playoff wins. Pretty amazing for an [early] expansion team. Even more amazing considering how dreadful they have been of late.2Squirrels1Nut said:Yeah, he wouldn't fit in with the Cowboys. He actually won playoff games.esuolb said:I've hated cowher for a long time, i dont think i could bring myself to cheer for that big-chin phonyMello said:
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
I sometimes wonder why Cowboys fan get the rep they do, when it seems like most Giants fans are the obnoxious blowhards.
I think your avatar is cute. I also think your god awful Superbowl teams are cute as well. The 86 team was great, (the 85 team was better) but the others stunk to high heaven.
netnalp
Footballguy
I take it I proved my point as you resorted to name calling rather than making an attempt to provide a counter argument.Got me there about he Giants Superbowl teams. You gotta be pretty bad to win against the best team in the league with a backup QB in 1990, and then in 2007 to beat one of the best teams ever. Cowboys Superbowl teams in the 90's were better than the Giants one, I guess we have to wait till this season finishes to compare the Giants 2007 team to any Dallas champs this decade.
It's not surprising you try to ridicule the Giants talent, for several years Ive been hearing about how the Cowboys are one of the most talented teams in the NFC. It's just a travesty for Dallas, that the NFL puts such an importance on winning games as a requirement to be in the Superbowl.
And perhaps your upset that the Giants have 7 NFL Championships to the Cowboys 5.
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road warrior
Footballguy
Well said bro. But I've lived in NY for over 20 years, and most die-hard season ticket holders aren't like that. Trust me. They respect the rivalry. I'll be going on Nov. 14th. Of course, most Giant fans are Yankee fans... and have an owner who always doesn't do things right, but wants to win and has some $$$$$$.He can believe what Me-Shawn says. Makes no difference. I won't even call him a 'hater' because real 'haters' don't use washed up WR comments to back their claim.
BTW, you're right. That avatar is cute.
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road warrior
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netnalp
Footballguy
You point out yo don't believe Keyshawn but ignore the other things I provided to support my argument.There's Keyshawn's comments. The SI article I linked. Jone's drunken rant of Parcells. Jone's feud with Jimmy Johnson. Disrespect he showed Landry. Also the TO signing that you pointed out. There's enough stories and past history to support the possibility that the relationship between Parcells and Jones was the cause of his leaving. To say that's wrong and to take Jerry's word is being naive.
The 3 highly respected coaches of the Cowboys and each one has stories that indicate possible conflicts with Jones.
Thanks for the compliments on the avatar, proud of the Giants pulling out that win.
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road warrior
Footballguy
Look, this debate is getting old, and I think we've hijacked this thread enough. Nowhere did I ever say that Jerry Jones is a saint. He's a fool with money. You said he got rid of Parcells'. You're wrong. Now when Jerry overruled him for taking TO, that pissed 34-32 off (that what I call the Tuna cuz that's his record in Dallas) but what Me-Shawn said you're reading it dead wrong. Bill walked all on his own. That doesn't mean Jerry still isn't a drunken fool.BTW, any status on John Fox? Love to see him in Big D.
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Tigerbot Hesh
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The post that mentions Butch Davis gets a gold star. I hadn't thought of him until I read the post, but he would fit the bill. He's had success in college, been a head coach in the pros and could play the 'bad cop' to Jerry's 'good cop' when it comes to getting tough with players.
I still think if Norv Turner gets fired Jerry gives him a look. Norv is a link to Jones' heyday with the Cowboys, and I think Turner would be willing to be seen as Jerry's puppet so as long as he got another shot at being a head coach.
I still think if Norv Turner gets fired Jerry gives him a look. Norv is a link to Jones' heyday with the Cowboys, and I think Turner would be willing to be seen as Jerry's puppet so as long as he got another shot at being a head coach.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
Cowah is going to Carolina. He can be the head coach and be close to family. Low expectations as well.
Gruden is going to Cleveland. Reunites with his first mentor from way back. Turns McCoy into the next Brees.
Fisher just got an extension didnt he? No way he loses his job there.
Stoops? Please. Little game Bob Stoops. I hope not.
Norv Turner? He is EXACTLY like Wade except he doesnt coach defense.
Jimmy Johnson is too old now. If he wanted to coach it would have been years ago.
I like Billick. There has to be a reason no one has hired him though.
Who does that leave for Jerry from the big names?
Gruden is going to Cleveland. Reunites with his first mentor from way back. Turns McCoy into the next Brees.
Fisher just got an extension didnt he? No way he loses his job there.
Stoops? Please. Little game Bob Stoops. I hope not.
Norv Turner? He is EXACTLY like Wade except he doesnt coach defense.
Jimmy Johnson is too old now. If he wanted to coach it would have been years ago.
I like Billick. There has to be a reason no one has hired him though.
Who does that leave for Jerry from the big names?
2Squirrels1Nut
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Italy must be the most powerful country in the world because, you know, the Roman Empire and stuff.The Cowboys have been to more Super Bowls and more playoff games then any team in NFL history. They also have the most playoff wins. Pretty amazing for an [early] expansion team. Even more amazing considering how dreadful they have been of late.2Squirrels1Nut said:Yeah, he wouldn't fit in with the Cowboys. He actually won playoff games.esuolb said:I've hated cowher for a long time, i dont think i could bring myself to cheer for that big-chin phonyMello said:
southeastjerome
Footballguy
I voted "other". I really think that Jerry Jones needs to hire someone that he can boss around and control. Jim Zorn is that man. He's had a year away as a head coach and I think Jones will put extra value on the fact that Zorn has recent experience in the NFC East.
2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
I agree that he wants someone who he can control to ensure that the perception that he's in charge is there, but Zorn will not get hired for another head coaching gig in the NFL. He's going to hire some young, offensive coach, such as Brian Schottenheimer. He might also, out of stubbornness or to "prove" everyone wrong, still hire Garrett as the head coach. He can't hire another retread as that looks too similar to what he has repeatedly done in the past.
I checked every other one. (before recess)
southeastjerome
Footballguy
Fixed
switz
Footballguy
Not a chance. There's a greater chance of Jerry selling the team than making Garrett the next HC. That ship sailed already, and Jones already knows Garrett isn't HC material.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Not anymore, Orton went to Denver.
Catbird
Footballguy
The 'amazing for an expansion team' claim is garbage when you take into account that before the Cowboys formed there was only 1 'playoff game' per year and no Superbowls? But I'll agree they have been a top team over their existence. And I'll agree they have been dreadful of late.And I'll agree that they'll porbably pick a hot young coordinator that doesn't threaten Jerry's control or steal his thunder.
