Franknbeans
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assuming he was available, of course
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Who would you drop to pick up Crowell? (1 Viewer)
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Crowell did look good last week but people need to to temper their expectations a bit. IF Tate goes down Crowell will be big but Tate is healthy right now and is clearly the starter. The Browns just lost a key part of their OL and Crowell had 2 fumbles last week and lost one. Crowell also won't be used at all on passing downs. The Browns simply are not good enough to find themselves playing ahead on a consistent basis allowing them to run as much as they did last week.
This week against JAX Crowell might produce decent numbers again but after that I wouldn't expect much unless Tate gets hurt again.
This week against JAX Crowell might produce decent numbers again but after that I wouldn't expect much unless Tate gets hurt again.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
In redraft he's a decent rb4 or rb5. Did Tate goes down he's an rb2. I would cut guys like Toby Gerhart for him. I do not like him more than Jeremy Hill or Andre Williams.
The Browns are not like other teams they run whether ahead by 20 or down by 20 they still run the ball!
This.
Everyone has their own opinion but that's a terrible strategy. Would you rather have Crowell or Spiller right now in redraft. I'll take Crowell every time. I always shoot for a RB flex or two, but the last RB spot or two should always be high ceiling guys like Crowell, McKinnon, etc. until things go right for them (usually later in the year when the make great trade bait or allow you to trade current starters for playoff push). I don't know what qualifies for deep bench, but most of my leagues allow at least 6.
Dizzy
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Crowell if I own Tate, Spiller if I own Jackson. The season is too short to stash players hoping for injuries bubble them to the top. I have to think that there are better pickings on the waiver wire than holding on to someone else's insurance policy. I would rather have someone on the bench that you feel may get their shot due to performance of the player ahead of them on the depth chart. Injuries are too fluky to "wish" for.
I see guys draft other owners 'cuffs all the time. They hold them, try to trade them to the owner that has the starter, and after 4-5 weeks they drop them for a bye week replacement... wasted draft pick, which shifts the power downstream. Let the owners of those players throw away picks on handcuffs.
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Yeah, I get your point. I just couldn't disagree more. The season is too short to stash players? Never at RB. Crowell, Knile Davis, whoever Denver rolls out there, Asiata/McKinnon, Blue, Williams and Forsett want to say hi.
If you're looking at end of bench talented RB's or talented RB's in good situations as just handcuffs for your guys and not lottery tickets, you're doing FF wrong. You are right in that they don't all pan out though. I busted on Donald Brown in just about every league. Then again, I did get the situation right (Mathews going down. . again), just didn't think Donald Brown would be so unproductive then get concussed himself.
Back to the OP, anybody that you feel you won't be using come playoff time when Crowell is in a timeshare with Tate at worst (RB3/flex) or if Tate's out (low end RB1/high end RB2). Ball, Sproles, Ivory, Spiller, McFadden, SJax, Rainey, Helu etc.
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blake
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I like this response. With Crowell, I'm willing to take a longer outlook on because of Tate. Even if Tate is healthy, I could see Crowell having RB3/Flex value. But I would also rather have Crowell on my bench than guys like Rainey, Spiller, Ivory and Steven Jackson. I don't think I'm alone in that feeling that Crowell is going to hit...it is just a matter of when with only Tate in front of him. And with that situation, that is one of the best situations a talented RB could step into.
Dizzy
Footballguy
Geez lsutigers, look at all those guys you listed? By the time any two of them are getting 10 or more carries a week... it might be week 12.
And that's assuming that you already have two (2) real RB's, no injuries to other positions, and planned for your bye weeks, plus room on the bench for a couple of zeroes waiting for the lead back(s) to slip on a banana peel.
All I can say is good luck. It hasn't worked for anyone I've been associated with with any degree of consistency, but if you have worked it to your advantage... good for you.
And that's assuming that you already have two (2) real RB's, no injuries to other positions, and planned for your bye weeks, plus room on the bench for a couple of zeroes waiting for the lead back(s) to slip on a banana peel.
All I can say is good luck. It hasn't worked for anyone I've been associated with with any degree of consistency, but if you have worked it to your advantage... good for you.
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Kool-Aid Larry
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Dark Matter
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Thinking about dropping Carlos Hyde this week. I'd say they have similar situations but I need bye week help and that tips the scale slightly towards Isaiah.
Rimez
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why are people so convinced west is completely out of the picture? he had some bad practices last week and he doesnt play special teams so he was inactive, smart money says he plays against jax and will splits touchs with crowell and may even get more carries than crowell, they have been trying to motivate west since the preseason to overthrow tate. besides this is tates job, he and kyle shanahan go back to their texans days, tate knows this offense inside-and-out. holding onto a handcuff like crowell and hoping the number 1 guy gets hurt is no way to win fantasy leagues, crowell should be owned but only by tate owners. youre better off holding alfred blue than crowell since both tate and foster have injury history but blue would have the job all to himself while crowell would 50-50 split (or less) with west if tate did go down again. this crowell hype makes no sense, he wont be the #1 anytime soon and will how violent he runs there is just as much a chance crowell gets hurt as anyone else lacing up their cleats on sunday.
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I would drop Hyde for Crowell. I drafted Hyde and he is now on the waiver wire with Crowell.
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
He's a rookie. Assuming his skillset will be static over the course of the year is a bad idea. There was a blurb this week that actually addressed how he was doing better than West in pass protection. That wasn't the case earlier this year.
If he earns trust in pass protection, he will absolutely see some time on passing downs. It isn't like Tate is Faulk 2.0 when it comes to receiving skills. Tate is better right now than Crowell is, but Crowell is a rookie and is going to improve over the course of the season.
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JamesTheScot
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Dude, that's just nonsense. They want every player on the roster giving 100%. And they want the best guy starting.
If they were calling out West and handing his carries to some kid behind him who was doing nothing with them, it might be seen as a ploy of some kind. But that isn't who they handed those touches to. They are handing them to a guy that is performing very well with them and opening people's eyes. Crowell is arguably doing more with them than West was. That's exactly how guys get passed up on the depth chart. Ignore that at your own risk.
Yeah, I dropped Hyde this week. Splitting carries with Gore and they don't seem to run much on the road, plus some difficult matchups out there will make him difficult to trust. Would rather take a chance on Crowell at this point given the schedule and what we've seen from him thus far.
