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Who's getting the ball in St. Louis? (1 Viewer)
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
It appears that they will let youth take over on the outside so it was smart to get a middle of the field target with experience in Cook. I could see Givens in the slot with Quick and a rookie on the outside. Unsettling with all of the youth but they don't appear to be panicking in free agency about it. It will be interesting to see how much progress Quick can make in the offseason. I would think after the dust settles a veteran RB joins the backfield.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I don't think Givens is a slot guy. He's more of an outside burner who stretches the field.
Bamac
Footballguy
Agreed. Cook is the "slot" guy.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Cook will basically act as a slot WR. Givens is not a slot guy. He's a deep threat, outside guy in the mold of Torrey Smith or Mike Wallace.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Agreed on Givens being outside, with Cook and Pettis on the inside. Question mark is if Quick can be the other outside guy at this point. I didn't see anything from him last year that says he's ready at this point, if ever. Just when we forgot about Donnie Avery, we get to deal with another major suspect WR that was an early 2nd rounder.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
the cooker
Jared Cook's five-year contract with the Rams has a maximum value of $38.5M and includes $19M guaranteed.
The Titans couldn't find a way to use Cook, but the Rams (and others) were willing break the bank on him. His average annual salary currently ranks sixth among tight ends in the league, behind only Rob Gronkowski, Antonio Gates, Vernon Davis, Jason Witten and Aaron Hernandez.
keller did pretty well with schotty
Jared Cook's five-year contract with the Rams has a maximum value of $38.5M and includes $19M guaranteed.
The Titans couldn't find a way to use Cook, but the Rams (and others) were willing break the bank on him. His average annual salary currently ranks sixth among tight ends in the league, behind only Rob Gronkowski, Antonio Gates, Vernon Davis, Jason Witten and Aaron Hernandez.
keller did pretty well with schotty
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TheFanatic
Footballguy
Keller always started off strong and seemed to fade as the season did...
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
$7m/year suggests that wherever he lines up they're planning on throwing him the damn ball. And right now he has an average, but improving, QB and not a ton of competition. Glad to own him where I do and wish I'd bought in a few places where I don't. But the price probably just jumped enough that it's too high for my bargain-shopper tastes.
squistion
Footballguy
What people tend to forget is that Kendricks was a Josh McDaniels pick/project, who at the time was hoping to replicate the Gronk/Hernandez success in NE. The problem is that while Kendricks often looked to be a star in preseason, he couldn't replicate that in the games that counted. He might eventually live up to his potential, but since he was the choice of a prior regime, I kinda doubt he will be given the opportunity to show it.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Avery and Quick are two completely different types of WR's.Quick is 6 foot 3, 220 lbs.
Avery is 5'11, 190 lbs.
I think too many people are underrating Quick due to being a raw rookie from a small school and taking sometime to "get" a pro level offense and the game of football in general. Many do not realize that Quick did not start playing football until his senior year in high school. He has playing football for only 5 years.
Quick has all the tools to be a WR1 on the outside. I don't think you can count him out as a nice piece for Bradford and the Rams going forward. If the game slows down for Quick you will see how good he can be. He was still learning his splits, formatioins etc last year. He may have only had 11 catches but you could see the athleticism in some of those catches.
Check out this 4 yard fade route where Bradford threw it up to him for the TD.
He also had a 36 yard TD catch against the 49ers.
Quick can be a physical force and a very good YAC guy. Quick ran a 4.50 flat at the combine last year. That is very elite speed for a guy his size.
I think he could surprise a lot of people as early as this year.
It is looking increasingly likely that he will start for the Rams this year and that they are willing to learn as he goes. I say buy cheap now.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Quick is a project, the question is how long of a leash he gets. If he has less than 500 yards receiving this year and next, do they keep him for a 4th year?
Brady Marino
Footballguy
I hope you're right.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Take the GM Les Snead's take on it
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
message received, loud and clear.......
lyon812
Footballguy
Cook, Givens, Richardson, Quick, Pead, Kendricks is probably the pecking order.
Remember the old days when receivers weren't expected to do much in their first year, especially raw ones that needed coaching?
I'm not saying that Quick's going to be a stud, but people's expectations nowadays have really taken a turn for the impatient. They picked him, and they're going to wait this out. I can't see them giving up on him; Fisher's already said that they knew they were getting a receiver that wouldn't be ready right away. It's doubtful they take a WR early. Snead isn't Millen.
Here's a nice analysis of all of Quick's targets:
TurfShowTimes-Quick
Remember the old days when receivers weren't expected to do much in their first year, especially raw ones that needed coaching?
I'm not saying that Quick's going to be a stud, but people's expectations nowadays have really taken a turn for the impatient. They picked him, and they're going to wait this out. I can't see them giving up on him; Fisher's already said that they knew they were getting a receiver that wouldn't be ready right away. It's doubtful they take a WR early. Snead isn't Millen.
Here's a nice analysis of all of Quick's targets:
TurfShowTimes-Quick
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Givens really has some eye popping stats when you break them down and it looks like he has big play potential. The problem is going to be consistency so if you can acquire him in a best ball format I think you will win big because Givens is likely to have 5-6 big games, trying to pick the right ones will drive owners nuts. bradford is not a top 15 QB right now...there is some limit on the upside all the way around but perhaps better weapons, OL, maybe Bradford will now take the next step with a better head coach than he has had since Stoops at Oklahoma. Good luck to him.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Richardson is the own here. He showed some serious ability last season. I'm not sold on Cook at all. Looks like Tarzan and all that. Pead is going to be the handcuff.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Cook doesn't really catch very well either.
Bamac
Footballguy
I think Fisher is going to test that hypothesis with repeated experiment.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
So what if he drops one in every 10 catchable balls? Nine targets a game and we're still Cooking with gas.Similar threads
