Whos value will jump significantly from now till week 1? (1 Viewer)

[Insein]

Zach Ertz

Guys going to be a beast this year. Hope i can get him since Im in a Philly league.

Why? I realize DJax's targets have to go somewhere, but Maclin is back, Celek still on the team, and Sproles and Matthews are 2 additions who figure to get a good amount of targets.

Towards the end of last year you could see thebsigns of him starting to take over. He'll be the primary TE receiving threat but with the way Kelly likes to exploit mismatches, I see Ertz getting a ton of work. LBs will be hard pressed to stay with him and DBs will be hard pressed to knock him off his routes.

So while I do think the ball will be spread around, I see Ertz being the main beneficiary matchup wise.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Zach Ertz

Guys going to be a beast this year. Hope i can get him since Im in a Philly league.

Why? I realize DJax's targets have to go somewhere, but Maclin is back, Celek still on the team, and Sproles and Matthews are 2 additions who figure to get a good amount of targets.

Towards the end of last year you could see thebsigns of him starting to take over. He'll be the primary TE receiving threat but with the way Kelly likes to exploit mismatches, I see Ertz getting a ton of work. LBs will be hard pressed to stay with him and DBs will be hard pressed to knock him off his routes.

So while I do think the ball will be spread around, I see Ertz being the main beneficiary matchup wise.

When you say Ertz is going to be a beast this year, what are we thinking? Low end TE1 value pick?

 

[buck naked]

Mike Wallace

All of the off-season talk about trading him will mean nothing once they start practicing and he becomes Miami's main target. Plus he will now have a full year in this system under his belt, so he should be on the same page as his QB. Watch him rise up the rankings like a phoenix.

This has never happened with him, even in his best years in Pittsburgh. But its an interesting and different thought.

Mike Wallace led the Dolphins and was 14th in the NFL last year with 141 targets. His conversion rate sucked, but the targets were absolutely there.

Those are good stats for why he might improve on his numbers. But the question is who's value will rise dramatically. I think many players view him as an underperformer, so his value in redrafts (at least where he is getting drafted) will not change between now and September.

 

[cloppbeast]

One of the Patriots receivers will make some big catches, boosting his stock. Glowing reports from camp get our fantasy blood pumping for one of Brady's targets seemingly every year.

I think it's Dobson's turn.

 

[Phenix]

One of the Patriots receivers will make some big catches, boosting his stock. Glowing reports from camp get our fantasy blood pumping for one of Brady's targets seemingly every year.

I think it's Dobson's turn.

No shot that it is Amendola or maybe Andre Johnson this year?

 

[msudaisy26]

Zach Ertz

Guys going to be a beast this year. Hope i can get him since Im in a Philly league.

Why? I realize DJax's targets have to go somewhere, but Maclin is back, Celek still on the team, and Sproles and Matthews are 2 additions who figure to get a good amount of targets.

Towards the end of last year you could see thebsigns of him starting to take over. He'll be the primary TE receiving threat but with the way Kelly likes to exploit mismatches, I see Ertz getting a ton of work. LBs will be hard pressed to stay with him and DBs will be hard pressed to knock him off his routes.

So while I do think the ball will be spread around, I see Ertz being the main beneficiary matchup wise.

When you say Ertz is going to be a beast this year, what are we thinking? Low end TE1 value pick?

I understand they aren't the same type of player but I think he will put up numbers similar to what Clay did last year, I wouldn't be surprised if he surpassed those numbers

 

[cloppbeast]

One of the Patriots receivers will make some big catches, boosting his stock. Glowing reports from camp get our fantasy blood pumping for one of Brady's targets seemingly every year.

I think it's Dobson's turn.

No shot that it is Amendola or maybe Andre Johnson this year?

I didn't know Andre Johnson played for the Patriots, or should a I make bold trade prediction? Even after moving to New England, I don't know how much his value would increase, as it's already pretty high. Would he move from a re-draft 3rd to a 2nd?

Amendola won't shake his injury prone reputation in the next three months.

 

[Khy]

One of the Patriots receivers will make some big catches, boosting his stock. Glowing reports from camp get our fantasy blood pumping for one of Brady's targets seemingly every year.

I think it's Dobson's turn.

No shot that it is Amendola or maybe Andre Johnson this year?

I didn't know Andre Johnson played for the Patriots, or should a I make bold trade prediction? Even after moving to New England, I don't know how much his value would increase, as it's already pretty high. Would he move from the a re-draft 3rd to a 2nd?

Amendola won't shake his injury prone reputation in the next three months.

Yeah... can we please not turn this thread into "potential 5% chance to happen trades"? By that same token lets start making preidictions on Kirk Cousins starting for the Texans this year...

/end sarcasm

Value in here should be based on current players on current teams. Please lets keep it this way.

 

[cloppbeast]

Paul Richardson - Seattle's got their version of DJax here...Percy underneath, Rice/Baldwin outside...PRich the deepthroat home run hitter.

I believe this.

Carroll has shown no reluctance to start rookies over established veterans in the past. The Seahawks have solid receivers, but not much inspiration outside of Harvin. It wouldn't surprise me if Richardson earned significant playing time his first season.

 

[Insein]

Zach Ertz

Guys going to be a beast this year. Hope i can get him since Im in a Philly league.

Why? I realize DJax's targets have to go somewhere, but Maclin is back, Celek still on the team, and Sproles and Matthews are 2 additions who figure to get a good amount of targets.

Towards the end of last year you could see thebsigns of him starting to take over. He'll be the primary TE receiving threat but with the way Kelly likes to exploit mismatches, I see Ertz getting a ton of work. LBs will be hard pressed to stay with him and DBs will be hard pressed to knock him off his routes.

So while I do think the ball will be spread around, I see Ertz being the main beneficiary matchup wise.

When you say Ertz is going to be a beast this year, what are we thinking? Low end TE1 value pick?

I made my Bold Prediction for the year in his thread. I said top 3 TE. Jimmy Graham had 1200 yds last year. I see Ertz topping 1100 with 9 Tds. Could be out of my mind but I think this guy is set for a ridiculous year in this system.

 

[dmac37]

Answer= Ahmad Bradshaw, once he is cleared for contact with his neck issue. He has proven that he can play through his foot issues and excel as a RB#1. Also he has had a year off to heal his chronic foot problems.

 

[ratbast]

Answer= Ahmad Bradshaw, once he is cleared for contact with his neck issue. He has proven that he can play through his foot issues and excel as a RB#1. Also he has had a year off to heal his chronic foot problems.

Bradshaw has been overrated in preseason almost his whole career!

 

[buck naked]

Mike Wallace

All of the off-season talk about trading him will mean nothing once they start practicing and he becomes Miami's main target. Plus he will now have a full year in this system under his belt, so he should be on the same page as his QB. Watch him rise up the rankings like a phoenix.

This has never happened with him, even in his best years in Pittsburgh. But its an interesting and different thought.

Mike Wallace led the Dolphins and was 14th in the NFL last year with 141 targets. His conversion rate sucked, but the targets were absolutely there.

Those are good stats for why he might improve on his numbers. But the question is who's value will rise dramatically. I think many players view him as an underperformer, so his value in redrafts (at least he is getting drafted) will not change between now and September.

2 early FFPC drafts last night. Wallace went at 6.12 and 7.7

 

[duaneok66]

Zach Ertz

Guys going to be a beast this year. Hope i can get him since Im in a Philly league.

Why? I realize DJax's targets have to go somewhere, but Maclin is back, Celek still on the team, and Sproles and Matthews are 2 additions who figure to get a good amount of targets.

Towards the end of last year you could see thebsigns of him starting to take over. He'll be the primary TE receiving threat but with the way Kelly likes to exploit mismatches, I see Ertz getting a ton of work. LBs will be hard pressed to stay with him and DBs will be hard pressed to knock him off his routes.

So while I do think the ball will be spread around, I see Ertz being the main beneficiary matchup wise.

When you say Ertz is going to be a beast this year, what are we thinking? Low end TE1 value pick?

I made my Bold Prediction for the year in his thread. I said top 3 TE. Jimmy Graham had 1200 yds last year. I see Ertz topping 1100 with 9 Tds. Could be out of my mind but I think this guy is set for a ridiculous year in this system.

can't see it - I think his production will increase, but there are too many options in that offense, and they run more than most teams.

 

[mental]

The answer is almost certainly going to be an RB; there's so little quality after the first dozen guys that any hype will translate into a big jump up the rankings.

David Wilson is an obvious candidate -- if he gets cleared in August, nearly any preseason highlight will likely be enough to get people thinking he's the next Jamal Charles again. The CLE (West/Crowell), NO (Robinson), IND (Bradshaw), MIA (Miller), and STL (Mason/Pead) situations all offer the kind of darkhorse candidates that fit the bill here, but nobody can match Wilson's siren song of potential.

 

[Donnybrook]

Colt Lylera is the correct answer.

 

[Biabreakable]

Zach Ertz

Guys going to be a beast this year. Hope i can get him since Im in a Philly league.

Why? I realize DJax's targets have to go somewhere, but Maclin is back, Celek still on the team, and Sproles and Matthews are 2 additions who figure to get a good amount of targets.

Towards the end of last year you could see thebsigns of him starting to take over. He'll be the primary TE receiving threat but with the way Kelly likes to exploit mismatches, I see Ertz getting a ton of work. LBs will be hard pressed to stay with him and DBs will be hard pressed to knock him off his routes.

So while I do think the ball will be spread around, I see Ertz being the main beneficiary matchup wise.

When you say Ertz is going to be a beast this year, what are we thinking? Low end TE1 value pick?

I made my Bold Prediction for the year in his thread. I said top 3 TE. Jimmy Graham had 1200 yds last year. I see Ertz topping 1100 with 9 Tds. Could be out of my mind but I think this guy is set for a ridiculous year in this system.

Do you think Jordan Matthews working out of the slot may eat into some of these expected targets for Ertz?

How do you see the distribution to WR/TE/RB breaking down in 2014?

 

[Insein]

Zach Ertz

Guys going to be a beast this year. Hope i can get him since Im in a Philly league.

Why? I realize DJax's targets have to go somewhere, but Maclin is back, Celek still on the team, and Sproles and Matthews are 2 additions who figure to get a good amount of targets.

Towards the end of last year you could see the signs of him starting to take over. He'll be the primary TE receiving threat but with the way Kelly likes to exploit mismatches, I see Ertz getting a ton of work. LBs will be hard pressed to stay with him and DBs will be hard pressed to knock him off his routes.So while I do think the ball will be spread around, I see Ertz being the main beneficiary matchup wise.

When you say Ertz is going to be a beast this year, what are we thinking? Low end TE1 value pick?

I made my Bold Prediction for the year in his thread. I said top 3 TE. Jimmy Graham had 1200 yds last year. I see Ertz topping 1100 with 9 Tds. Could be out of my mind but I think this guy is set for a ridiculous year in this system.

Do you think Jordan Matthews working out of the slot may eat into some of these expected targets for Ertz?

How do you see the distribution to WR/TE/RB breaking down in 2014?

Probably not the thread for it but here goes.Eagles had 508 pass attempts last year. 202 of them went to Djax and Avant. Despite being a rookie and not really getting playing time till the 2nd half of the season, Ertz had the 5th most targets on the team. If we assume they distribute those targets between Maclin, Cooper, Sproles/McCoy, Matthews and Ertz for the bulk, I could see Ertz seeing in the 90-100 target range by virtue of Celek being on the decline and a void left from those two targets leaving.

 

[Beefeaters]

Mike Wallace

All of the off-season talk about trading him will mean nothing once they start practicing and he becomes Miami's main target. Plus he will now have a full year in this system under his belt, so he should be on the same page as his QB. Watch him rise up the rankings like a phoenix.

This has never happened with him, even in his best years in Pittsburgh. But its an interesting and different thought.

Mike Wallace led the Dolphins and was 14th in the NFL last year with 141 targets. His conversion rate sucked, but the targets were absolutely there.

Those are good stats for why he might improve on his numbers. But the question is who's value will rise dramatically. I think many players view him as an underperformer, so his value in redrafts (at least he is getting drafted) will not change between now and September.

2 early FFPC drafts last night. Wallace went at 6.12 and 7.7

So there's your baseline. Now we'll see if his value increases between now and Week 1. I'm betting it will.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Mike Wallace

All of the off-season talk about trading him will mean nothing once they start practicing and he becomes Miami's main target. Plus he will now have a full year in this system under his belt, so he should be on the same page as his QB. Watch him rise up the rankings like a phoenix.

This has never happened with him, even in his best years in Pittsburgh. But its an interesting and different thought.

. I like Wallace a lot this year. New offensive scheme moving him around, rather than relegating him to one side of the field all season. He's being ranked about WR40 right now, which is below several teams' #2s. Tannehill more experienced. I see him in the WR15-24 range this season. A nice WR2.

 

[grateful zed]

i think romo is going to have a breakout season.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Jonathan Stewart?

He's doing yoga!

 

[JohnnyU]

Dustin Keller if he signs with NE and Colt Lyerla if he signs with GB;. I also think Drew Brees and Sean Payton are going to make Brandin Cooks a stud.

 

[incogneato]

Dustin Keller if he signs with NE and Colt Lyerla if he signs with GB;. I also think Drew Brees and Sean Payton are going to make Brandin Cooks a stud.

The "maybe you're not paying attention" offers are already coming in on both.

 

[Milkman]

Jonathan Stewart?

He's doing yoga!

Hopefully he doesn't hurt himself.

 

[nirad3]

QB

Geno Smith: He is going to surprise a lot of people by winning the starting role and looking good with some actual offensive pieces in place for him and the second year in the system.

WR

R. Randle: People will be down on him due to Giants drafting Beckham even though Randle is going to start and has a very good chance to put up some nice numbers. Coughlin is always harder on young players and it will be no different with Beckham. Beckham will be in the rotation and get targets, but he is going to be eased into the offense and will be the primary punt returner. Giants already said Randle is starting outside. Randle on one side, Cruz in the slot and outside in 2 WR sets and then Beckham will come in for 3 WR sets. After a nice preseason where Randle is getting targets and looking good his value will start to rise.

RB

R. Jennings: Once again another Giant. Jennings is going to be getting all of the early down work and will look good doing it in preseason. He also was brought in because he was very good in the screen game and I am sure he will break one or two and amp up his price before week 1. He is also going to get majority of the redzone work.

TE

Kyle Rudolph: He will be over drafted as the season draws near. He was over drafted last year as people think he is the next elite TE, but he will be yet again an average to below average fantasy starter.

I disagree on almost all of these points.

1. Geno Smith: I don't buy him as a starter in this league. I think Decker and ASJ will help a little bit, but in the end he'll be a backup in another year or two.

ASJ is a Buc. Suppose you were thinking Jace Amaro.

Agree w/ the assessment, though. Smith is going to struggle.

 

[ldizzle]

Like some others have posted:

Aaron Dobson

Greg Jennings

Others I expect

Devonta Freeman

Ladarius Green

Kenny Britt

 

[Khy]

QB

Geno Smith: He is going to surprise a lot of people by winning the starting role and looking good with some actual offensive pieces in place for him and the second year in the system.

WR

R. Randle: People will be down on him due to Giants drafting Beckham even though Randle is going to start and has a very good chance to put up some nice numbers. Coughlin is always harder on young players and it will be no different with Beckham. Beckham will be in the rotation and get targets, but he is going to be eased into the offense and will be the primary punt returner. Giants already said Randle is starting outside. Randle on one side, Cruz in the slot and outside in 2 WR sets and then Beckham will come in for 3 WR sets. After a nice preseason where Randle is getting targets and looking good his value will start to rise.

RB

R. Jennings: Once again another Giant. Jennings is going to be getting all of the early down work and will look good doing it in preseason. He also was brought in because he was very good in the screen game and I am sure he will break one or two and amp up his price before week 1. He is also going to get majority of the redzone work.

TE

Kyle Rudolph: He will be over drafted as the season draws near. He was over drafted last year as people think he is the next elite TE, but he will be yet again an average to below average fantasy starter.

I disagree on almost all of these points.

1. Geno Smith: I don't buy him as a starter in this league. I think Decker and ASJ will help a little bit, but in the end he'll be a backup in another year or two.

ASJ is a Buc. Suppose you were thinking Jace Amaro.

Agree w/ the assessment, though. Smith is going to struggle.

Yeah, that's my bad. I keep mixing up their landing spots for some reason. This is easily the like 5th time I've done that. My assessment doesn't change, Amaro or ASJ aside.

 

[Tanner9919]

Ray Rice..Ravens drafted one RB , in the 4th round,a 230lb mudder, someone who is no threat to steal significant carries from Rice..

they guy still has it, injuries and a lackluster offensive scheme led to his demise last season.This year, Kubiak will revitalize that offense, and he's probably one of the only OC's who doesn't user RBBC..

potential high reward for a somewhat risky player..chance to hit the jackpot here..

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Markus Wheaton?

So much attention everywhere else.

1- The Steelers were taking a WR or TE high.

2- Adding Lance Moore and Heyward Bey.

3- Martavius Bryant being the "big target" Ben wants. Or is it Derek Moye?

4- Dri Archer as a receiving option.

5- Miller at 100%.

6- Leveon Bell being a real receiving threat as another slice taker.

Meanwhile Wheaton sits atop the depth chart at Steelers website.

He is in the cat-bird position and now enters his second year. After last year as a rook being in the middle of a team transition to Todd Haleys O. And personal move from Chip Kellys O.

Ben made Santonio (5'11') and Ward (6'0") and Nate Washington (6'1") work just fine to the tune of a Super Bowl ring.

Currently WR #56. Likely to be closer to #36 if he simply catches the balls that come his way.

 

[Khy]

So I'm still trying to figure out the point of this thread also... is it

"Whose value is going to articfically spike before Week 1?"

or

"Whose value will correctly spike before Week 1?"

or is it simply both?

Cause I think a LOT of people will incorrectly be drafting Watkins and Evans high in redrafts coming into this season. Similar to Tavon last year, people will be taking them in the 4-5th round in some redrafts. When the fact is, it's incredibly rare that a rookie WR actually makes a big impact as a week to week fantasy starter.

Same for me goes with Ebron, think a lot of people will be drafting him really high in redrafts but I don't think he has much of an impact year one. There's just too many mouths to feed in Detroit right now.

Kelvin Benjamin is another one of the rookies that will be way over drafted in redrafts this season because everyone will be saying the same thing "He's Cam's only option, he'll be starting and targeted a lot out of the gate". But that doesn't change the fact that he's extremely raw and had one of the worst drop rates in the NCAA last season.

I'm also banking on a lot of people taking Johnny Manziel this season as their 'late round hope he blows up" QB. This won't be like the 2012 season where you took RG3 in the 10th round of your redrafts and laughed your way to a dominant season (like myself). In my opinion, if there is a rookie QB to own in redrafts this season it's Teddy. Manziel has no tools around him at all. He has nobody to throw the ball too and his defense is shaping up to be one of the best in the league. Whether he starts day 1 or not (and he will) I doubt they're letting him sling the ball or risk his body all that much. This team will be pounding the ball a lot. Honestly, whether Tate stays healthy or not I think a really nice target is Terrance West. Even if Tate's on the field I'm willing to bet he'll be seeing 10+ carries a game and if Tate goes down he has bellcow potential.

Few homer picks as well

Rueben Randle - He's going to sky rocket up boards I think but I don't think it'll be warranted. I firmly believe that it'll be ODB and Cruz leading the Giants in catches.

Rashad Jennings - He's going to rise on a lot of boards. Especially if David Wilson isn't cleared prior to camp. He'll get hurt though. He's never made it through a full season and his body isn't conditioned to be a workhorse. He (like Ben Tate) has a pretty extensive injury history and he's really never eclipsed 100 carries in a season prior to last year. That isn't something that looks good on paper for me. If I'm drafting Jennings I'm doing it with the intention to snag Andre Williams later in the rounds as well. Cause in my mind it's not a matter of if Jennings goes down it's when.

I also have a feeling you're going to want a part of this running game this year. They've completely rebuilt the offensive line. Richburg will help fill a large LARGE hole at the center position and some people had him as their top Center in this draft. Pugh is coming into his 2nd season, he was one of the better rookie tackles last season and he has bulked up a lot. Reports are he's added over 10lbs of muscle in the offseason. They're also going to want to pound the rock as much as possible to try and stem some of Eli's interception woes.

 

[FF Ninja]

Mike Wallace

All of the off-season talk about trading him will mean nothing once they start practicing and he becomes Miami's main target. Plus he will now have a full year in this system under his belt, so he should be on the same page as his QB. Watch him rise up the rankings like a phoenix.

This has never happened with him, even in his best years in Pittsburgh. But its an interesting and different thought.

Mike Wallace led the Dolphins and was 14th in the NFL last year with 141 targets. His conversion rate sucked, but the targets were absolutely there.

Those are good stats for why he might improve on his numbers. But the question is who's value will rise dramatically. I think many players view him as an underperformer, so his value in redrafts (at least he is getting drafted) will not change between now and September.

2 early FFPC drafts last night. Wallace went at 6.12 and 7.7

So there's your baseline. Now we'll see if his value increases between now and Week 1. I'm betting it will.

While I agree that he's undervalued, I'm not so sure we're going to see a steep increase in price. What new information is going to push it? And he doesn't have a year in the system. It's a new system.

I took him in SSL1 at pick 70 (5.06 at around WR24) - I think that would be 6.10 in a 12-team. Love getting him there. I will be shocked if he slides up more than a round.

I think people are confusing this thread with a sleepers thread. The OP simply said that Richardson is likely to slowly work his way up draft boards. He didn't say he'd be worth the pick. Personally, I think he's spot on. I could definitely see Richardson moving on up as people get excited about the Indy offense and have to project someone to get the touches.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Maclin or Nicks start to slide on up quite a few rounds if they look good in the preseason or have some nice fluff pieces written about them during training camp. Maclin just went WR32 in SSL1. Nicks hasn't gone yet and we're around WR40 at this point. Reggie Wayne is off the board already. If Nicks looks to be the WR1 then he's going to scream up past Wayne at the very least.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Jordan Cameron--contract year, could end up being the primary receiving target while Josh Gordon is out--which could be an entire year, could also have a rookie qb throwing to him (and young qb's do tend to utilize TE's a ton)

Dez Bryant-- I know he already has elite status when it comes to wr's--but I see legit mid-late first round redraft value here. Dallas will be in lots of shootouts this season--just look at the division they play in--eagles, redskins, giants..there is no real defensive juggernauts here. I certainly don't believe in the defense of the cowboys--so I really see some high scoring games coming from this division. I know he's probably an early second round pick even now--but I would personally not be surprised if he ended up being a top 5 fantasy asset.

Stevan Ridley---his fumbling issue to start last season really impacted his total numbers for last season. However--if you see how he finished last year--he showed some really nice flashes. I can see some major value here.

I also agree with some of the names already mentioned--reuben randle, ertz, and mike wallace.

 

[Khy]

Stevan Ridley---his fumbling issue to start last season really impacted his total numbers for last season. However--if you see how he finished last year--he showed some really nice flashes. I can see some major value here.

What games did you watch?

Week 12 - 4 carries, 14 yards, 0 TDs

Week 13 - No carries

Week 14 - 8 carries, 35 yards, 0 TDs

Week 15 - 8 carries, 34 yards, 0 TDs

Week 16 - 15 carries, 54 yards, 0 TDs

Week 17 - 12 carries, 74 yards, 0 TDs

So his last...6 weeks of play he went 47 carries, 211 yards, 4.48ypc and 0 TDs not really what I'd call "nice flashes" per se. I mean sure, he's 'probably' the starter here. But Vereen could win the spot. I personally want no part of the NE backfield earlier than like the 6th round or so in redrafts.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Stevan Ridley---his fumbling issue to start last season really impacted his total numbers for last season. However--if you see how he finished last year--he showed some really nice flashes. I can see some major value here.

What games did you watch?

Week 12 - 4 carries, 14 yards, 0 TDs

Week 13 - No carries

Week 14 - 8 carries, 35 yards, 0 TDs

Week 15 - 8 carries, 34 yards, 0 TDs

Week 16 - 15 carries, 54 yards, 0 TDs

Week 17 - 12 carries, 74 yards, 0 TDs

So his last...6 weeks of play he went 47 carries, 211 yards, 4.48ypc and 0 TDs not really what I'd call "nice flashes" per se. I mean sure, he's 'probably' the starter here. But Vereen could win the spot. I personally want no part of the NE backfield earlier than like the 6th round or so in redrafts.

You do realize that those games correspond with Blount also being utilized a ton--and he's not there anymore. I'd imagine that with no blount--ridley would be getting more carries by default--and I'd say that a 4.8 yard per carry is not all that bad. If you go back a few more weeks into last year..weeks 6-9 (new england had a bye week 10)--you are looking at a total of 71 carries for 340 yards (4.78 yds per carry) and 6 td's. The fact is that from week 6--to the end of the year--ridley averaged over 4.5 yards per carry with 6 tds--playing with a td and carries vulture like blount. My guess is that ridley is probably going pretty cheap right now--and the lack of blount in New England could be an opportunity for Ridleys value to skyrocket by week 1--but this is not science--it's just a prediction.

 

[Reaper]

Mike Wallace

All of the off-season talk about trading him will mean nothing once they start practicing and he becomes Miami's main target. Plus he will now have a full year in this system under his belt, so he should be on the same page as his QB. Watch him rise up the rankings like a phoenix.

This has never happened with him, even in his best years in Pittsburgh. But its an interesting and different thought.

Mike Wallace led the Dolphins and was 14th in the NFL last year with 141 targets. His conversion rate sucked, but the targets were absolutely there.

Those are good stats for why he might improve on his numbers. But the question is who's value will rise dramatically. I think many players view him as an underperformer, so his value in redrafts (at least he is getting drafted) will not change between now and September.

2 early FFPC drafts last night. Wallace went at 6.12 and 7.7

So there's your baseline. Now we'll see if his value increases between now and Week 1. I'm betting it will.

While I agree that he's undervalued, I'm not so sure we're going to see a steep increase in price. What new information is going to push it? And he doesn't have a year in the system. It's a new system.

I took him in SSL1 at pick 70 (5.06 at around WR24) - I think that would be 6.10 in a 12-team. Love getting him there. I will be shocked if he slides up more than a round.

I think people are confusing this thread with a sleepers thread. The OP simply said that Richardson is likely to slowly work his way up draft boards. He didn't say he'd be worth the pick. Personally, I think he's spot on. I could definitely see Richardson moving on up as people get excited about the Indy offense and have to project someone to get the touches.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Maclin or Nicks start to slide on up quite a few rounds if they look good in the preseason or have some nice fluff pieces written about them during training camp. Maclin just went WR32 in SSL1. Nicks hasn't gone yet and we're around WR40 at this point. Reggie Wayne is off the board already. If Nicks looks to be the WR1 then he's going to scream up past Wayne at the very least.

In my FFPC draft he went at 8.10... I was licking my chops but already had 4 WR's!!!!!

Yeah, I can see him climbing a decent amount from that... Trent Richardson went at 5.2...

If I'm betting, I bet Wallace climbs more.

 

[Riffraff]

Stevan Ridley---his fumbling issue to start last season really impacted his total numbers for last season. However--if you see how he finished last year--he showed some really nice flashes. I can see some major value here.

What games did you watch?

Week 12 - 4 carries, 14 yards, 0 TDs

Week 13 - No carries

Week 14 - 8 carries, 35 yards, 0 TDs

Week 15 - 8 carries, 34 yards, 0 TDs

Week 16 - 15 carries, 54 yards, 0 TDs

Week 17 - 12 carries, 74 yards, 0 TDs

So his last...6 weeks of play he went 47 carries, 211 yards, 4.48ypc and 0 TDs not really what I'd call "nice flashes" per se. I mean sure, he's 'probably' the starter here. But Vereen could win the spot. I personally want no part of the NE backfield earlier than like the 6th round or so in redrafts.

You do realize that those games correspond with Blount also being utilized a ton--and he's not there anymore. I'd imagine that with no blount--ridley would be getting more carries by default--and I'd say that a 4.8 yard per carry is not all that bad. If you go back a few more weeks into last year..weeks 6-9 (new england had a bye week 10)--you are looking at a total of 71 carries for 340 yards (4.78 yds per carry) and 6 td's. The fact is that from week 6--to the end of the year--ridley averaged over 4.5 yards per carry with 6 tds--playing with a td and carries vulture like blount. My guess is that ridley is probably going pretty cheap right now--and the lack of blount in New England could be an opportunity for Ridleys value to skyrocket by week 1--but this is not science--it's just a prediction.

Possible Blount (gone) and eventual Ridley (free agent soon) replacement? Stephen Houston

 

[brun]

Oddly enough, I'm in an FFPC DE slow draft & I got all 3 of these guys. I suck at ff, so, sorry to say, you're predictions are probably be wrong. For future ref, see below.

Jordan Cameron--contract year, could end up being the primary receiving target while Josh Gordon is out--which could be an entire year, could also have a rookie qb throwing to him (and young qb's do tend to utilize TE's a ton)

Got him 3.11, 5th TE off the board (2 picks after Gronk). 1.5 PPR for TE's in this contest.

Dez Bryant-- I know he already has elite status when it comes to wr's--but I see legit mid-late first round redraft value here. Dallas will be in lots of shootouts this season--just look at the division they play in--eagles, redskins, giants..there is no real defensive juggernauts here. I certainly don't believe in the defense of the cowboys--so I really see some high scoring games coming from this division. I know he's probably an early second round pick even now--but I would personally not be surprised if he ended up being a top 5 fantasy asset.

Got him 1.11, 3rd WR off the board. Sandwiched between Demaryius Thomas (1.9) & A J Green (1.12). I could have gone with Green, but prefer Dez's TD production.

Stevan Ridley---his fumbling issue to start last season really impacted his total numbers for last season. However--if you see how he finished last year--he showed some really nice flashes. I can see some major value here.

Got him 7.11, just before Sproles. IMO his TD production can be in double digits again without Blount. Vereen was still having issues with his wrist fairly recently. Seems like a long time to me (he went 5.4).

I also agree with some of the names already mentioned--reuben randle, ertz, and mike wallace.

 

[Khy]

Stevan Ridley---his fumbling issue to start last season really impacted his total numbers for last season. However--if you see how he finished last year--he showed some really nice flashes. I can see some major value here.

What games did you watch?

Week 12 - 4 carries, 14 yards, 0 TDs

Week 13 - No carries

Week 14 - 8 carries, 35 yards, 0 TDs

Week 15 - 8 carries, 34 yards, 0 TDs

Week 16 - 15 carries, 54 yards, 0 TDs

Week 17 - 12 carries, 74 yards, 0 TDs

So his last...6 weeks of play he went 47 carries, 211 yards, 4.48ypc and 0 TDs not really what I'd call "nice flashes" per se. I mean sure, he's 'probably' the starter here. But Vereen could win the spot. I personally want no part of the NE backfield earlier than like the 6th round or so in redrafts.

You do realize that those games correspond with Blount also being utilized a ton--and he's not there anymore. I'd imagine that with no blount--ridley would be getting more carries by default--and I'd say that a 4.8 yard per carry is not all that bad. If you go back a few more weeks into last year..weeks 6-9 (new england had a bye week 10)--you are looking at a total of 71 carries for 340 yards (4.78 yds per carry) and 6 td's. The fact is that from week 6--to the end of the year--ridley averaged over 4.5 yards per carry with 6 tds--playing with a td and carries vulture like blount. My guess is that ridley is probably going pretty cheap right now--and the lack of blount in New England could be an opportunity for Ridleys value to skyrocket by week 1--but this is not science--it's just a prediction.

The point is though, Bill doesn't really like him. Regardless of whether or not you feel he's the only game in town. Clearly the coaches weren't fond of starting him last season. Which is why LaGarrette Friggin Blount was getting starts over him. I'm sorry, but when you're sitting behind LaGarrette Blount I'm assuming your team no longer values you as a starter. Vereen is the target in NE in my opinion not Ridley.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Stevan Ridley---his fumbling issue to start last season really impacted his total numbers for last season. However--if you see how he finished last year--he showed some really nice flashes. I can see some major value here.

What games did you watch?

Week 12 - 4 carries, 14 yards, 0 TDs

Week 13 - No carries

Week 14 - 8 carries, 35 yards, 0 TDs

Week 15 - 8 carries, 34 yards, 0 TDs

Week 16 - 15 carries, 54 yards, 0 TDs

Week 17 - 12 carries, 74 yards, 0 TDs

So his last...6 weeks of play he went 47 carries, 211 yards, 4.48ypc and 0 TDs not really what I'd call "nice flashes" per se. I mean sure, he's 'probably' the starter here. But Vereen could win the spot. I personally want no part of the NE backfield earlier than like the 6th round or so in redrafts.

You do realize that those games correspond with Blount also being utilized a ton--and he's not there anymore. I'd imagine that with no blount--ridley would be getting more carries by default--and I'd say that a 4.8 yard per carry is not all that bad. If you go back a few more weeks into last year..weeks 6-9 (new england had a bye week 10)--you are looking at a total of 71 carries for 340 yards (4.78 yds per carry) and 6 td's. The fact is that from week 6--to the end of the year--ridley averaged over 4.5 yards per carry with 6 tds--playing with a td and carries vulture like blount. My guess is that ridley is probably going pretty cheap right now--and the lack of blount in New England could be an opportunity for Ridleys value to skyrocket by week 1--but this is not science--it's just a prediction.

The point is though, Bill doesn't really like him. Regardless of whether or not you feel he's the only game in town. Clearly the coaches weren't fond of starting him last season. Which is why LaGarrette Friggin Blount was getting starts over him. I'm sorry, but when you're sitting behind LaGarrette Blount I'm assuming your team no longer values you as a starter. Vereen is the target in NE in my opinion not Ridley.

I think you are misunderstanding my point. This thread is about which players whose value can jump significantly between now and week 1. I don't disagree that Vereen is probably the premier running back to own in New England. The point is--and one person replied that they just drafted Ridley at the 11th pick of the 7th round (let's just call it almost the 8th round to make typing easier)-that Ridley is getting drafted very late relative to what his potential is. What I am saying is that just 2-3 years ago--Ridley was considered an elite fantasy RB. Last year he had a setback in production because of his fumbling issues and a freakishly good season by Blount. The beauty of this is that Ridley should be fresh as he certainly wasn't over-used last season. Blount is also gone--and let's not forget that Vereen was pretty badly injured for much of last season. I'm not sure if Vereen can handle a full season of carrying the load by himself without getting hurt. The point is that we are talking about a relatively young running back--who has a history of showing that he can be an elite rb--on a team where the guy ahead of him is rather injury prone that is currently available in the late 7th/early 8th round of re-drafts. Imho--Ridley is one monster pre-season game away from starting to get the fantasy community looking at him in the 4-5th rounds---which would be a 3-4 round increase in his value. I'm not saying he's the best rb in New England--I'm just saying that I personally could see his value skyrocketing between now and week 1.

 

[nirad3]

I don't get the Rueben Randle love.

Maybe it's just that they're trying to light a fire under the guy's behind, but every single thing I hear out of the NYG camp is that this guy is all but a bust. The GM had already said the jury's still out and even Randle's running mate Victor Cruz said the team needed a big play threat opposite him. And lo and behold they draft OBJ.

He had a decent year 1 to year 2 jump but I just don't see him being the #2 for this team for long. OBJ is electric and they will get him involved early and often. All the talk of Tom Coughlin making rookies earn their stripes is hogwash. You don't burn the 12th pick in the draft on a guy you're just going to bring along slowly, especially when it's a position that you dearly need production out of.

I think Randle's a 700 yard, 5-6 TD kind of guy at very best.

 

[johnadams]

Here's my list:

QB) Russell Wilson (currently QB15) is the only guy I think might make a big push. Once the friendly league gang gets going, his SB win should buy him some value alone and might get into the top 10 discussion.
WR) Kenny Britt (WR62). I expect that once he shows healthy and back under the guidance of Fisher, we'll see a lot of "remember when" kind of stuff. Won't run into the top 10 WRs, but a decent TC and pre-season, I can see people willing to take a shot at mid 20s.

WR) Andre Holmes. Every year, the OAK beat writers do a good job with the hype train with varying degrees of success and I'm guessing we'll hear a lot about how Andre Holmes has finally put together his talents to be a beast in the preseason and he'll run up boards (to be fair, I'm kinda in agreement on Holmes).

RB) David Wilson (RB48). This is my bet for the biggest jump this offseason. Once he's cleared for full contact, he'll move up. Once training camp opens and the usual media gushing, he'll move up. After the first pre-season game, he'll move up. After Coughlin overstates his importance, he'll move up. He's the only guy I can see coming from way back to jump into the 2nd or third round right now.

TE) Tough one, but Ladarius Green is the guy I see. More chatter about the demise of Gates and the historic friendliness of Rivers to TEs will get his ADP bumped a bit.

QB and TE are pretty tough though cause even a four person jump is significant though minor in comparison to RB/WR values.

 

[FF Ninja]

Ok, just looked at the FBG ADP - didn't realize it was out. Had been just looking at the PDSL ADP.

QB - I doubt there is much movement here. Nothing is going to change that should yield great movement between now and then except maybe the NYJ QB will be named, but whoever that is, isn't going to sky rocket.

WR

Nicks is WR39 right now. If word gets out that he's the WR1 on the team and Wayne is just playing the slot (I have no knowledge of the situation, just saying "if") then he's going to jump into WR2 territory from WR4.

Oak WR1 - currently James Jones is WR46 which is a FF WR6. Someone is going to catch some buzz and Schaub should be able to support at least a fantasy WR2.

Cotchery is currently WR73 which is ridiculous for the best WR on the team.

Cle WR1 - I'm guessing Miles Austin? No one is currently listed on the FBG ADP for Cleveland beyond Gordon and it lists 91 WRs. That will change.

RB

Bernard/Hill - currently RB8 and RB59, I think that they move in opposite directions. If Hill has a shot at 200+ carries, he'll rocket into RB3 territory. Bernard should not be drafted as a top 10 RB. He'll slip into RB2 land.

Stewart - currently RB57. I expect he'll win the starting job from the 31 year old Williams (RB41). Hype will ensue, rightly or wrongly.

Bryce Brown - currently RB68. I'm not sure he'll actually take over for the aging Jackson, but I bet he tears it up in the preseason while they rest Jackson, possibly with good reason, as I suspect they traded for him for a reason.

R.Jennings could plummet from RB24 if he doesn't outshine his competition in camp/preseason.

TE

Like QB, not a lot of room for movement. Kelce seems absurdly low (TE29) as TEs have had moderate success under Reid in the past. Heath Miller (TE17) is now recovered. Not sure if he'll jump or not, but he should. Was TE4 then TE24. Fully recovered, he should be closer to the TE4.