why are players active and then not used (1 Viewer)

[Soaring Eagle]

happened to john brown this week, ivory a few weeks ago

obviously i am frusterated but i am trying to figure out what it the advantage of activating them if you aren't going to use them?

 

[cstu]

Injuries during the game.

 

[Soaring Eagle]

happened to john brown this week, ivory a few weeks ago

obviously i am frusterated but i am trying to figure out what it the advantage of activating them if you aren't going to use them?

You're the reason this is the Shart Pool.

Grow up.

really? valid question....looking for responses...not insults

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

(I started him too )

 

[ConnSKINS26]

happened to john brown this week, ivory a few weeks ago

obviously i am frusterated but i am trying to figure out what it the advantage of activating them if you aren't going to use them?

You're the reason this is the Shart Pool.

Grow up.

really? valid question....looking for responses...not insults

Someone already started a thread about this, might be some useful responses in there:

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/732854-bragging-venting-crowing-grieving/

 

[The General]

I believe one points to the shirt in these situations.

 

[cstu]

Someone already started a thread about this, might be some useful responses in there:

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/732854-bragging-venting-crowing-grieving/

So what was the answer to his question?

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Someone already started a thread about this, might be some useful responses in there:https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/732854-bragging-venting-crowing-grieving/

So what was the answer to his question?

Not sure there is a useful response to a self-serving gripe about something that happens often enough, in the big picture. That's why I linked the thread for complaining and griping, that's what it's for.

 

[Arodin]

One possibility that has been raised in other games is that a team has so many injured players, the number who can't go exceed the number they are allowed to list as inactive.

Don't think that applies here to the Cards, but it is one of many reasons why this might happen.

 

[mbuehner]

Someone already started a thread about this, might be some useful responses in there:

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/732854-bragging-venting-crowing-grieving/

So what was the answer to his question?

There is no answer, coaches are intentionally making their teams worse to screw over fantasy owners. Guys never try to go and cant in warmups, and game situations never dictate not going to a certain player over another.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

One possibility that has been raised in other games is that a team has so many injured players, the number who can't go exceed the number they are allowed to list as inactive.

Don't think that applies here to the Cards, but it is one of many reasons why this might happen.

Right. It's possible that if Fitz or Floyd or the other Brown went down they may have had to risk him, but they didn't.

 

[Pipes]

happened to john brown this week, ivory a few weeks ago

obviously i am frusterated but i am trying to figure out what it the advantage of activating them if you aren't going to use them?

You're the reason this is the Shart Pool.

Grow up.

While the question comes across as a little whinny telling him to grow up is uncalled for.

 

[renesauz]

happened to john brown this week, ivory a few weeks ago

obviously i am frusterated but i am trying to figure out what it the advantage of activating them if you aren't going to use them?

You're the reason this is the Shart Pool.

Grow up.

really? valid question....looking for responses...not insults

There could be lots of reasons. A guy who is less than 100% might be a viable emergency player but unable to play to his normal (starter) level.

A team might do it as a smokescreen.

A team might have numerous injuries and worthless players and simply not NEED to de-activate the player.

Any time a guy is limited in practice all week you have to assume some significant risk putting him in your lineup.

 

[Soaring Eagle]

happened to john brown this week, ivory a few weeks ago

obviously i am frusterated but i am trying to figure out what it the advantage of activating them if you aren't going to use them?

You're the reason this is the Shart Pool.

Grow up.

really? valid question....looking for responses...not insults

There could be lots of reasons. A guy who is less than 100% might be a viable emergency player but unable to play to his normal (starter) level.

A team might do it as a smokescreen.

A team might have numerous injuries and worthless players and simply not NEED to de-activate the player.

Any time a guy is limited in practice all week you have to assume some significant risk putting him in your lineup.

appreciate the answer...thanks

 

[cstu]

Someone already started a thread about this, might be some useful responses in there:https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?/topic/732854-bragging-venting-crowing-grieving/

So what was the answer to his question?

Not sure there is a useful response to a self-serving gripe about something that happens often enough, in the big picture. That's why I linked the thread for complaining and griping, that's what it's for.

The OP shouldn't have complained about his team but he would have written it this way would you have reacted the same way?

What is the advantage of activating player coming off injury if you aren't going to use them?

Too many people around here over-react and make the site worse as a result.

 

[Chaka]

happened to john brown this week, ivory a few weeks ago

obviously i am frusterated but i am trying to figure out what it the advantage of activating them if you aren't going to use them?

You're the reason this is the Shart Pool.

Grow up.

Do you realize that responses like that aren't helping?

 

[Chaka]

You're right. Game day roster should be only 22 players. 11 offense, 11 defense, so that you don't have to cry to us about your lousy fantasy team.

Again, for someone who seems to care about the quality of posts in the Shark Pool it seems odd to post responses like yours. You should try to post to the same level that you expect from others.

 

[Jack White]

happened to john brown this week, ivory a few weeks ago

obviously i am frusterated but i am trying to figure out what it the advantage of activating them if you aren't going to use them?

You're the reason this is the Shart Pool.

Grow up.

really? valid question....looking for responses...not insults

There could be lots of reasons. A guy who is less than 100% might be a viable emergency player but unable to play to his normal (starter) level.

A team might do it as a smokescreen.

A team might have numerous injuries and worthless players and simply not NEED to de-activate the player.

Any time a guy is limited in practice all week you have to assume some significant risk putting him in your lineup.

Except in Brown's case, he played -- and played well -- the last two weeks under similar circumstances.

 

[Bronco Billy]

You're right. Game day roster should be only 22 players. 11 offense, 11 defense, so that you don't have to cry to us about your lousy fantasy team.

Huh. So you must have gone back and looked at your initial response and thought, "Geez, that wasn't a very strong effort. I can be a much bigger jerk than that."

 

[LittlePhatty]

I guess he was active in case they needed him. They decided they didn't (and won the game).

Not much you can do it except interpret the warning signs during the week. It's all a guessing game. I started Brown too.

 

[massraider]

You're right. Game day roster should be only 22 players. 11 offense, 11 defense, so that you don't have to cry to us about your lousy fantasy team.

Huh. So you must have gone back and looked at your initial response and thought, "Geez, that wasn't a very strong effort. I can be a much bigger jerk than that."

Great post.

 

[thatguythere]

Brown has bad hammy's on both legs....kind of a red flag there.

 

[Bronco Billy]

I'll try to provide some insight on this, even though it was not a NFL level event by any means.

When I was coaching as the D coordinator, the best player on D was my MLB. Undersized but aggressive as all get out, nonstop motor, always found a way to anticipate were the ball was and get there ahead of time.

So we have a game at the end of the season that we have to win to make the playoffs. The MLB came down with the flu. He suited up but there was no way I was going to start him. He had no stamina and wasn't 100%, so that put him at risk IMO. He was nauseous and a bit shaky, but we did suit him up. He was on the sidelines the whole game, did not play a down. We were up by 4, opponents have the ball on their last possession, and started driving. They finally get to our 30 yd line with about 2 minutes left and they have solved our D.

The MLB was driving me nuts wanting to play. He hadn't barfed all game, was active and encouraging the whole game on the sideline - mostly in my ear wanting to play. So given the limited time frame and that he was apparently healthy enough to take a few snaps, in he went. Sure enough, two plays later he sniffed out a screen, stripped the ball and recovered the fumble. Game over.

True story - local paper had a huge write up over the whole thing. There was no way I was planning on playing him and wouldn't have played him a down under any other circumstances.

That's why you see guys active and sometimes they don't play much or at all. They are borderline healthy enough, but coaches don't want to risk playing them under anything other than very limited and special circumstances.

Long post, I know. And I know it's not about the NFL specifically, but maybe it will give you a little insight as to why things like this can happen.

 

[zftcg]

Don't get why people are jumping over the OP. I didn't read his post as whining at all, just asking for insight into an admittedly odd scenario. And I thought Bronco Billy's anecdote was really helpful.

Of course, the guys who really get screwed in these situations (other than fantasy owners LOL) are practice squad players who miss out on their chance for a call-up.

 

[renesauz]

Don't get why people are jumping over the OP. I didn't read his post as whining at all, just asking for insight into an admittedly odd scenario. And I thought Bronco Billy's anecdote was really helpful.

Of course, the guys who really get screwed in these situations (other than fantasy owners LOL) are practice squad players who miss out on their chance for a call-up.

This is false. Someone has to be CUT for a practice squad guy to get called up, not simply inactive.

 

[zftcg]

Don't get why people are jumping over the OP. I didn't read his post as whining at all, just asking for insight into an admittedly odd scenario. And I thought Bronco Billy's anecdote was really helpful.

Of course, the guys who really get screwed in these situations (other than fantasy owners LOL) are practice squad players who miss out on their chance for a call-up.

This is false. Someone has to be CUT for a practice squad guy to get called up, not simply inactive.

Didn't know that. Still, there's probably *someone* who got deprived of an active roster spot while Brown stood on the sideline.