Why did Matt Leinart fail in the NFL? (2 Viewers)

[DeaLerZ]

cause he was a USC quarterback, and they all suck..... and Leinart in particular more so than his predecessors sucks ###

Sean Salisbury

Rodney Pete

Carson Palmer

Matt Leinart

Matt Cassel

Mark Sanchez

John David Booty

Matt Barkley

 

[rct]

Weak arm. Bad decisions. Left handed. Not a great leader. Not motivated.

Left handed? That is one of the reasons he failed?Perhaps...but seems to me that other southpaws have done OK, including Steve Young, Kenny Stabler, Boomer Esiason, Mark Brunell and (more recently) Michael Vick.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Weak arm. Bad decisions. Left handed. Not a great leader. Not motivated.

Left handed? That is one of the reasons he failed?Perhaps...but seems to me that other southpaws have done OK, including Steve Young, Kenny Stabler, Boomer Esiason, Mark Brunell and (more recently) Michael Vick.

Half serious. There's a low number of lefties this year apparently. Some wrs have trouble catching the opposite spin as well.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Weak arm. Bad decisions. Left handed. Not a great leader. Not motivated.

Sure, but mostly it was the hookers and cocaine.

 

[timschochet]

Joe Bryant reported in his daily email this morning that Kevin Kolb's career is probably over, and that Kolb earned 33 million dollars in the last 4 years, which seemed like a lot for that guy. So it got me wondering how much Leinart has earned.

 

[cstu]

...He's bad at football and never cared enough to be good at it.

I remember posting when he decided to forgo being the #1 overall pick to stay in school that his heart wasn't in being a great NFL QB. People tried to say that he loved the college game, but I think he enjoyed the easy life of a college football star more than the game itself.

This. Passing up on the draft was a red flag.

I don't really like California QB's in general. I think they grow up soft playing with their fancy prep schools in their gorgeous 75 degree autumn weather. California QB's that end up at USC get all that plus the benefit of cruising along with a loaded roster. They can certainly overcome it (Palmer had a nice run for a few years) but if they don't have the intangibles to deal with adversity, they're doomed for failure.

Aaron Rodgers

Tom Brady

And perhaps not coincidentally they had more difficult paths to the NFL.

 

[Mr. Retukes]

cause he was a USC quarterback, and they all suck..... and Leinart in particular more so than his predecessors sucks ###

Sean Salisbury

Rodney Pete

Carson Palmer

Matt Leinart

Matt Cassel

Mark Sanchez

John David Booty

Matt Barkley

UCLA alum? LOL

 

[drummer]

Joe Bryant reported in his daily email this morning that Kevin Kolb's career is probably over, and that Kolb earned 33 million dollars in the last 4 years, which seemed like a lot for that guy. So it got me wondering how much Leinart has earned.

You're really reaching to milk this one aren't ya?

 

[Shrugs]

I used to think he was misunderstood. That he just need a second or third or fourth chance. He's got no love for the game. Just cashing paychecks. The play that symbolizes Matt Leinart's career in a nutshell was when he came in to mop up in a game that Carson Palmer got hurt and he ended up throwing the ball away under pressure, and it was already 4th down. No heart, no will to win, no gumption, just straight ####y. Come to think about it, maybe it's a USC QB thing, quitting when the going gets tough.

Really, the guy who went 37-2 in college had no will to win? Does this look like someone with no heart? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHU1a9SZEIQ

 

[msommer]

Joe Bryant reported in his daily email this morning that Kevin Kolb's career is probably over, and that Kolb earned 33 million dollars in the last 4 years, which seemed like a lot for that guy. So it got me wondering how much Leinart has earned.

Somewhere between 40 and 50 million would be my guess for his career. He's 30...

He signed a 6 year 51m contract and played 4 of them before getting cut after T/C year 5. Then back up contracts at HOU and OAK. Probably a lot closer to 40 than 50. If he has invested wisely he won't have to work ever again

 

[Dentist]

I'd love to fail like this

If Matt Leonard, Jamarcus Russell, and Ryan leaf are failures, then I don't wanna be successful.

Millionaires who have had repeated sex with hotter chicks than I masturbate to.. Yeah

 

[3optic]

Tim Duncan can still compete at his age and still move well because his fundamentals are so good. His footwork is so good that he is able to compress and expand space around him by skill, not athleticism.

Love this

 

[timschochet]

Very well written, GG. As much as I wonder about your political screeds, this one was, IMO, very well thought out.

 

[bagger]

people peak at different times. its no different than the kid who is an all star all through little league, and as he gets into high school he becomes someone who hits at the bottom of the lineup and then never plays in college.

leinart probably peaked around his sophomore/junior year of college. that was as good as he was ever going to get. as he went into the nfl everyone around him was better and he could never improve to a level of success that merits an nfl career.

the notion that everyone continues to get better is the same false narrative that leads people to see peyton manning throw 50 tds and then assume the next year he will do i again and draft him at 1.01. people dont get better into perpetuity or until they are 40.

seeing every one of barkleys games at usc, i think he has never gotten better than his freshman year. is that in part because kiffin is terrible and never was able to imrpove him? maybe. or maybe that is the best barkley will ever be. thats why drafting talent as a gm is so tough. you have to determine who still has not yet peaked and who has. this is why brady is drafted in the 6th round, a great example of someone who was not close to peaking as a qb in college.

 

[LarryAllen'sJockstrap]

He was drafted in 06 and got the most playing time of his career his rookie season. That was on a bad Arizona team and while he wasn't great, he wasn't awful; posted common rookie QB stats.

Then in late 06/07, the Cards got a rejuvenated Kurt Warner who was so good, he took the team to the SB and kept Leinart on the bench.

After his rookie year, he was Warner's backup the next 3 years. I don't think he handled that well putting in the effort or showing enough to be a valuable commodity, even with his own team.

With the lack of a resume, and perceived effort/leadership issues, he was really never given another shot. He's floated around as a backup the last 3 years.

I think had he gone to a team that committed to him and let him take his lumps, but stay on the field, he might have made it. Instead, the Cards got lucky with Warner and kept him on the roster for four years to toil away his development.

 

[Insein]

I'd love to fail like this

See that right there is a perfect example. #4 in that lineup wouldn't even be there if he was a better QB.

 

[beef]

Usc qbs suck. Anyone can look good under carroll, a team of 5 star recruits and playing in a non defense confrence.

 

[TwinTurbo]

He was drafted in 06 and got the most playing time of his career his rookie season. That was on a bad Arizona team and while he wasn't great, he wasn't awful; posted common rookie QB stats.

Then in late 06/07, the Cards got a rejuvenated Kurt Warner who was so good, he took the team to the SB and kept Leinart on the bench.

After his rookie year, he was Warner's backup the next 3 years. I don't think he handled that well putting in the effort or showing enough to be a valuable commodity, even with his own team.

With the lack of a resume, and perceived effort/leadership issues, he was really never given another shot. He's floated around as a backup the last 3 years.

I think had he gone to a team that committed to him and let him take his lumps, but stay on the field, he might have made it. Instead, the Cards got lucky with Warner and kept him on the roster for four years to toil away his development

Even if a team like the Jets had drafted Leinart, he would still be out of the league by now. Warner actually probably extended his career as a backup. Without Warner, his career is probably over by 2010. Sanchez will be in the same boat after this season.

 

[LarryAllen'sJockstrap]

He was drafted in 06 and got the most playing time of his career his rookie season. That was on a bad Arizona team and while he wasn't great, he wasn't awful; posted common rookie QB stats.

Then in late 06/07, the Cards got a rejuvenated Kurt Warner who was so good, he took the team to the SB and kept Leinart on the bench.

After his rookie year, he was Warner's backup the next 3 years. I don't think he handled that well putting in the effort or showing enough to be a valuable commodity, even with his own team.

With the lack of a resume, and perceived effort/leadership issues, he was really never given another shot. He's floated around as a backup the last 3 years.

I think had he gone to a team that committed to him and let him take his lumps, but stay on the field, he might have made it. Instead, the Cards got lucky with Warner and kept him on the roster for four years to toil away his development

Even if a team like the Jets had drafted Leinart, he would still be out of the league by now. Warner actually probably extended his career as a backup. Without Warner, his career is probably over by 2010. Sanchez will be in the same boat after this season.

Sanchez is 33-29 as a starter. He even threw 26TDs in 2011.I don't think he's starter material, especially with awful career comp % and YPA (QB killers), but he'll catch on a backup somewhere.