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Not to mention all the celebration that goes on after EVERY PLAY. After just about every defensive tackle or stop there's all kinds of posing and celebrating. Maybe next the NFL will penalize any type of emotion on the field. Just turn the players into a robotic disciplined machine that goes out and simply earns their paycheck.
The attitude is worse in the NBA. Which explains why people like me don't watch or follow the NBA. At least in the NFL the product, the games, mean something.
4th Quarter of a tie game and DJax goes 70+ yards for the go ahead TD - he basically spins and dives into the endzone. Yep, nobody ever does that. 
Dumb call. 15 yards for that? Please. No Fun League, indeed.
Lousy video, but you'll get the gist.Anyone have a link? I missed the interviewYeah, that was so bad, I was embarrassed in my living room.Refs blew that penalty call. Celebration was during play, not after.
But DJax looks & sounds like a 12 year old the way he acted after the game during Vick interview.
I do. And he's probably a big reason rules have changed over the years. But I guess what I am asking is whether there's a difference as to when the taunting takes place. TO running to the star in Dallas is taunting but the play was over. A player taunting in the middle of a play, when he can still get popped and even fumble, may not be. Imagine last night that somebody sneaks up on Jackson as he's falling backwards in the endzone and pops the ball out and Dallas recovers. Is he still flagged for taunting? I doubt it but I dunno for sure. That's why I'm asking.
To all the "taunting" guys, that wasnt the call. What is all this spirit of the rule stuff? Spirit of the rule didnt apply to the Calvin Johnson no catch or any other play. Either he broke the rule (falling to the ground during a celebration) or he didnt. He obviously didnt. There is no difference between his play and the MANY players who needlessly dive or even backflip into the endzone on a weekly basis. As mentioned before, the signals after meaningless first downs or defenders posing after every tackle are much worse. Singling out D.Jax like he is any different is crazy.
This happened in a Dallas/Buffalo SB... Don Beebe ran down Leon Lett
Still has a bit of growing up to do...Lousy video, but you'll get the gist.Anyone have a link? I missed the interviewYeah, that was so bad, I was embarrassed in my living room.Refs blew that penalty call. Celebration was during play, not after.
But DJax looks & sounds like a 12 year old the way he acted after the game during Vick interview.
Anybody know if Andy Reid addressed it in the post game or today?
My childhood was more the Michael Irvin/Deion Sanders era, so I'm not as put off.
To be fair, what Jackson pulled last night was celebrating the longest TD in the NFL this season, which broke open a tie game against a hated division rival. It clearly was a TD worth celebrating. Still, I think the flag was appropriate.
Exactly the player I was thinking of. People may have forgotten there's been some questionable actions (and immaturity) in the league a lot longer then DJackson. People were asking the same "what is the league coming to" since the '80s (and probably longer then that). I wonder how the uptight conservatives liked Nameth?
I agree with this. But Jackson had just scored the go ahead 70+ yard TD in a divisional rival's stadium. This was hardly Roy Williams giving the old "1st DOWN!" signal down 2 TDs when he had dropped the last two passes. Did he showboat a little? Sure. Was he probably a little extra fired up given the above circumstances? Most definately.
Yeah, you are just getting old. The "look at me" attitude isnt unique to sports. Its now a cultural thing. Youtube, twitter, facebook, reality tv, are just a few of the many examples of societies change in this regard. So of course the players are just gonna follow along. And the majority of the population under 40 (current and future target market) have no problems with this kind of stuff.
Agreed. Consistently please.
How is that play any different from players that somersault into the endzone and NEVER gets called?
Understand completely. Which is why I'll probably just stop watching. Between this and the inconsistent officiating/fines, it's just not that enjoyable for me to watch the NFL any more.
It's more clearly taunting rather than celebrating, since you're turning around to look at the defenders.
Dives?That wasn't a dive. It was a backwards fall. Not many players do that.4th Quarter of a tie game and DJax goes 70+ yards for the go ahead TD - he basically spins and dives into the endzone. Yep, nobody ever does that.
Dumb call. 15 yards for that? Please. No Fun League, indeed.
Wow...this from an Eagles fan? I am SO surprised...
Other Eagles fans have chimed in with their disappointment in Jackson's behavior. Your blanket assessment is far from fair here.
I would feel the same way if it was a Cowboy that did it. Penalties for celebrating or showing off are stupid. That is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
Possibly, but my blanket assessment of that particular Eagles fan is spot on.
Is Jared Allen a doosh for doing his rope 'em cowboy/jack in the box celebration after every sack? That seems worse to me as it is clearly pre-meditated but that never gets called either.
But Packers are allowed to leap into the stands? What is the "spirit" of the rule and how do you know it is broken when you see it? I saw Tolbert score for SD and he stood in the end zone and shook his ### and arms. That isn't a "celebration"? Why?
Typical Browns fan. I'm SO suprised.
Forward somersault? No problem. Backward somersault? Taunting. Ok, that makes sense.
They are celebrations. They just aren't excessive.
Sure. Both are immature and necessary. Do you think that one unflagged act of self-centered dooshiness somehow forgives any other act of self-centered dooshiness?People keep labeling this act as a "celebration" in an attempt to forgive the taunting. Call it what it was. I understand that some would be just fine if the league allowed taunting. I'm glad that they don't.
My first line...I don't like the rule.BUT, they have specifically told players they would be flagged if they go to the ground in celebration. Players diving or flipping into the end zone get away with it because they leave their feet while still in the field of play. Jackson reached the ball across the plane (and thus scored) BEFORE he started his backwards fall...thus he was flagged. We can argue about the rule all we want to, but the ref made the correct call.Of much bigger concern to me is the non-call on flagrant unnecesary roughness to Vick earlier, or the blatant facemask by a Cowboys lineman after an Eagles defender caught a similar penalty, or how in the heck they called that key catch a catch after review clearly showed the ball moved in his hands and hit the ground. How about the ref watching Clavin and the Cowboys defender jawing and bangin helmets, the 'Boy giving Calvin a forearm shiver to the throat, and THEN deciding to step in and flag Calvin when he reacts to the throat punch. (To be clear, both players were at fault...it was HORRID officiating when the official watched the whole thing from 4 feet away.)Officials last night were terrible, but this is one call they TECHNICALLY had right.
When they first discussed penalizing/reigning in celebrations, they decided to make an exception for the Lambeau leap because of it's unique nature to the stadium AND the fact that it's obviously NOT taunting....the same way they decided to allow spiking the ball or dunking it on the goalposts. The idea was to limit celebrations of a taunting nature.Dumb rule? Maybe...but still correctly applied last night.Lambeau Leap is okay because it's the Packers and is given a cute name.Not okay to fall backwards into the endzone.Okay to run through the back of the endzone and jump into the crowd.
eh, he was just passing time for his own interview right afterI think those 1st down celebrations like the one that McCoy did at the end of the game, are in line with what Jackson did for his TD, yet those never get a penaltyLousy video, but you'll get the gist.Anyone have a link? I missed the interviewYeah, that was so bad, I was embarrassed in my living room.Refs blew that penalty call. Celebration was during play, not after.
But DJax looks & sounds like a 12 year old the way he acted after the game during Vick interview.
When does a celebration turn into "a taunting nature" and why doesnt jumping into the stands or doing "the dougie" qualifty under your definition?When they first discussed penalizing/reigning in celebrations, they decided to make an exception for the Lambeau leap because of it's unique nature to the stadium AND the fact that it's obviously NOT taunting....the same way they decided to allow spiking the ball or dunking it on the goalposts. The idea was to limit celebrations of a taunting nature.Dumb rule? Maybe...but still correctly applied last night.Lambeau Leap is okay because it's the Packers and is given a cute name.Not okay to fall backwards into the endzone.Okay to run through the back of the endzone and jump into the crowd.
It does forgive it because rules need to be applied universally. If 20 players make in your words, "immature and unnecessary" acts during a game, you cant pick one out of the group and give him a penalty. If what D.Jax did was "taunting", the NFL does allow it multiple times per game.
Nope. Officials did not signal touchdown until after he fell into the endzone and stood back up.
I think if he goes to the ground with it anymore he will get a flag too.
Jumping into the stands is celebrating with the fans. Doing a dance is just that, doing a dance. Turning around, looking at your opponent, holding the ball out is taunting. Pretty simple. I'm not bothered by the celebrations but do understand the rules and why they draw a line with it. Jackson crossed that line last nite and got a flag. People can ##### and moan about this all they want. Nobody in the Eagles organization, including DeSean Jackson, are complaining about this being a penalty b/c it was an EASY call to make.When does a celebration turn into "a taunting nature" and why doesnt jumping into the stands or doing "the dougie" qualifty under your definition?When they first discussed penalizing/reigning in celebrations, they decided to make an exception for the Lambeau leap because of it's unique nature to the stadium AND the fact that it's obviously NOT taunting....the same way they decided to allow spiking the ball or dunking it on the goalposts. The idea was to limit celebrations of a taunting nature.Dumb rule? Maybe...but still correctly applied last night.Lambeau Leap is okay because it's the Packers and is given a cute name.Not okay to fall backwards into the endzone.Okay to run through the back of the endzone and jump into the crowd.
So running through the endzone, flipping the ball into the stands then jumping up and being held onto by fans for 5 seconds isn't excessive, but DJAX turning around and falling into the endzone is? That makes a lot of sense. Lambeau Leap certainly delay's the game more than what he did. He didn't do anything else after he scored, there was no pointing/jawing/taunting by himself or anyone else. From the point of scoring he got up off the ground and ran back to his sideline. The 'going to the ground' call is ludicrous as probably 50% of the RBs in the league dive unnecessarily into the endzone. Can it really be described as taunting? What about LT's "premeditated" finger-roll every time he scores? Or Jared Allen's explosion thing? It's football: ENTERTAINMENT. NFL has no problem with the revenue a guy like DJax generates with his 'antics' but will punish him when he does something that gets fans talking. stupid.People need to lighten up. He grabbed a 91 yard TD to go up in the fourth quarter against a divisional rival that spanked the Birds 3 out of 3 times last year. Then fell into the endzone.Run for the hills!!!
