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You keep discussing this here and then complain when I respond.
Assault rifles are not more important than all those people. But when I ask whether alcohol is more important than all the people that died, you tell me it's a stupid example.
I and others have said we support harsher penalties for drunk driving. So will you support tighter laws on gun ownership? If not please stop acting like a troll.
It's a stupid example because no one is arguing against restrictions on alcohol sales, restrictions on use of alcohol or even restrictions on types of alcohol sold. People also aren't arguing against banning alcohol inhalation devices meant to use alcohol in a completely foolish and dangerous way, and if a company sells such devices no one would argue that they should be insulated from litigation for intentionally marketing and selling a product that was obviously going to kill people.
I've posted multiple times over the years that I support tougher gun laws, including banning all guns if it meant that I was guaranteed there would be no more gun violence. But, this thread started prior to the latest shooting and I still believe that it has nothing to do with need. It has to do with freedom. We give up freedoms all the time for the sake of saving lives. But i expect a tradeoff when law abiding people give up something because of a small percentage of criminals. This is why I used the alcohol comparison.
Agree. But people can't see that not all assault rifles are used to commit mass shootings. The same way not all people that drink drive cars and kill people. They are both a freedom that we have. Neither are a necessity. They both are something that people use to add enjoyment to their lives.
There are more AR15s in civilian hands in this country than there are Muslims in the United States.
Another misinformed point made by you. Nobody here has said that all assault rifles are used to commit mass shootings. I'm pretty convinced you're nothing but a troll at this point. This is a pretty ###### subject to be a troll about.
I believe icon quoted some numbers in regards to the number of assault rifles vs the number used for mass shootings. The thing that some posters here also don't understand is that people don't know what an assault rifle is. (Not trying to stir that pot again). But when the OP says ban to an air soft gun, it causes people that would otherwise agree with him on a ban say, "wait a minute we were talking but banning assault rifles now your expanding the scope of theach ban". At that point you start to loose support.
If you want to have a conversation, I'm happy to oblige. Name calling will not get you the response your looking for.
Nah, I'll pass. I am going to take your advice from earlier (and pretty much the only coherent thought you've had in this discussion) and ignore you. In the future though, you may want to consider that some subjects may affect some people differently than others due to having been directly impacted by them. Gonna go have a beer and enjoy the games. Hope it doesn't explode and kill 60 people when I open it.
Fair enough.
If you think drunk driving and a mass shooting are comparable, you need a lot more than a stiff drink.
This still makes no sense. There is no way any law would prevent all such prohibited actions. So if you take that to its logical conclusion we should have no laws since no law is 100 percent effective.
I wasn't comparing them. I understand the intent with one. Although one could argue if you go to a bar and drive your own car, you intended to drive drunk.
Huh, not a single person in this thread is saying this.
Sure. But a law doesn't help if it doesn't solve the problem. I mentioned that the Vegas shooter had money and would have been able to acquire guns illegally.
I know, I have been posting since then. Nice to know you have been trolling it since it started.
Have I? I made a point about "needing" Assault rifles and "needing" alcohol. Had that been made last week nobody would have attacked me.
If he acquired them illegally the likelihood someone noticed and said something is much higher.
Read the first few pages of this thread. I wasn't the first to bring up cars or cigarettes.
Yup people were bringing up cars then and it got the same response as your lines. Also, might want to check the date of this thread starting and see if it ties to anything...
Yeah. There was a lot of outrage here.
I will make a comparison. Both parties are complete #######s. They both suck. They both can go to hell and they both suck at life.
I’m sorry does America care more about a black church getting shot up or a white church getting shot up?
If there is foul play, than who is to blame the judge or the jury?
Every man that said no man has a right to tell a woman what to do with their body is responsible for the 3% of 59 million Americans that never got to breath air and could never be here.
Then I hope the whole planet gets weak as hell. Many generations sacrificed so the next could have it better. So don't piss on them and try to say things would be better if things were worse. Besides being a catch 22, it's disrespectful to all those past generations that didn't get good times and were the supposedly hard men you pine for. If they didn't have as many good times than it was because they were sacrificing for the future- so the future would know good times.
When your people have no future. Your family. Your race. Your Nation. You hope for weakness for women liberation that equals nothing sacred in the womb.
Here's the problem: as long as there are people on this little blue pearl, peace is simply not achievable. We can try, but evil still exists, and will work to cause pain and destruction. To that end, I will arm myself to keep evil out and away from my family.
