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Wife in Hospice Care (2 Viewers)

Hi everyone. Here to post a happy update.

My wife 'graduated' from hospice care effective June 6. I learned through this process that, while in hospice care, the hospice team had to certify her status every 2 months. Part of that certification was answering the question, is the patient within 6 months of the end of his/her life? They had answered yes to that every time until the most recent time, when they answered no. This is obviously a great development for us. It is in large part a credit to the excellent quality of hospice care she received. I am eternally grateful to those nurses.

My wife is still in a very challenging state of healthcare. She has not been out of our bed since last September other than for medical transport to and from the hospital. She has a catheter and multiple wounds that will continue to require home healthcare. She also still suffers from severe chronic pain, although she is no longer on the pain pump, which is a good thing.

In addition, while in hospice care, everything is centralized and generally covered without insurance challenges. Everything is also delivered in the home. Now, we are adjusting to new providers, back to the normal state of healthcare insurance challenges, and will have to figure out how to transport her to appointments out of the home.

But... these are great challenges to have.

Once again, I really appreciate the support I have gotten from this community. Because of my wife's condition, she is largely isolated, and that has made my life largely isolated, other than going to work (and living with her parents, which is often like living in a sitcom...). This forum has been a great place to come to take my mind off of these challenges and also to get support for dealing with them.

:thanks:
Holy cow, amazing stuff. Not sure I saw this before, but what a great turn of events for you and your wife and seems like everyone involved deserves kudos for their resilience through this struggle. Congrats.
 
This is wonderful news, man. I'm really happy for you both. I hope she fully turns the corner and you are both able to live normal and fruitful lives. I wish that for you. May you be so blessed.
 
You are back in NC now???

No. I grew up in the Greensboro area, then went to college at NC State, then lived in Raleigh for another 11 years after college. We moved from Raleigh to Virginia Beach in 2003, then to San Diego in 2014, then back to VB in 2018, and we are still here. But I am a NC native and love going back there. My Mom still lives in Greensboro, so I get back there to visit, although it has turned into me driving there to pick her up and bring her to stay with us for some number of weeks, then driving her home. So I don't get to spend much time there nowadays. Still... big fan!
 
Hi everyone. Here to post a happy update.

My wife 'graduated' from hospice care effective June 6. I learned through this process that, while in hospice care, the hospice team had to certify her status every 2 months. Part of that certification was answering the question, is the patient within 6 months of the end of his/her life? They had answered yes to that every time until the most recent time, when they answered no. This is obviously a great development for us. It is in large part a credit to the excellent quality of hospice care she received. I am eternally grateful to those nurses.
This is great news.
 
You are back in NC now???

No. I grew up in the Greensboro area, then went to college at NC State, then lived in Raleigh for another 11 years after college. We moved from Raleigh to Virginia Beach in 2003, then to San Diego in 2014, then back to VB in 2018, and we are still here. But I am a NC native and love going back there. My Mom still lives in Greensboro, so I get back there to visit, although it has turned into me driving there to pick her up and bring her to stay with us for some number of weeks, then driving her home. So I don't get to spend much time there nowadays. Still... big fan!
Ahh...I confused the Va Beach return with a return to NC.
 
Hi everyone. Here to post a happy update.

My wife 'graduated' from hospice care effective June 6. I learned through this process that, while in hospice care, the hospice team had to certify her status every 2 months. Part of that certification was answering the question, is the patient within 6 months of the end of his/her life? They had answered yes to that every time until the most recent time, when they answered no. This is obviously a great development for us. It is in large part a credit to the excellent quality of hospice care she received. I am eternally grateful to those nurses.

My wife is still in a very challenging state of healthcare. She has not been out of our bed since last September other than for medical transport to and from the hospital. She has a catheter and multiple wounds that will continue to require home healthcare. She also still suffers from severe chronic pain, although she is no longer on the pain pump, which is a good thing.

In addition, while in hospice care, everything is centralized and generally covered without insurance challenges. Everything is also delivered in the home. Now, we are adjusting to new providers, back to the normal state of healthcare insurance challenges, and will have to figure out how to transport her to appointments out of the home.

But... these are great challenges to have.

Once again, I really appreciate the support I have gotten from this community. Because of my wife's condition, she is largely isolated, and that has made my life largely isolated, other than going to work (and living with her parents, which is often like living in a sitcom...). This forum has been a great place to come to take my mind off of these challenges and also to get support for dealing with them.

:thanks:
I've never heard or known anyone who makes it back out of hospice care, I'm so happy the two of you
🙏♥️🙏♥️
 
Hi everyone. Here to post a happy update.

My wife 'graduated' from hospice care effective June 6. I learned through this process that, while in hospice care, the hospice team had to certify her status every 2 months. Part of that certification was answering the question, is the patient within 6 months of the end of his/her life? They had answered yes to that every time until the most recent time, when they answered no. This is obviously a great development for us. It is in large part a credit to the excellent quality of hospice care she received. I am eternally grateful to those nurses.

My wife is still in a very challenging state of healthcare. She has not been out of our bed since last September other than for medical transport to and from the hospital. She has a catheter and multiple wounds that will continue to require home healthcare. She also still suffers from severe chronic pain, although she is no longer on the pain pump, which is a good thing.

In addition, while in hospice care, everything is centralized and generally covered without insurance challenges. Everything is also delivered in the home. Now, we are adjusting to new providers, back to the normal state of healthcare insurance challenges, and will have to figure out how to transport her to appointments out of the home.

But... these are great challenges to have.

Once again, I really appreciate the support I have gotten from this community. Because of my wife's condition, she is largely isolated, and that has made my life largely isolated, other than going to work (and living with her parents, which is often like living in a sitcom...). This forum has been a great place to come to take my mind off of these challenges and also to get support for dealing with them.

:thanks:

Here to post a less happy update. I just need to get some of this out, so appreciate you all reading. I can't talk about some of this with my family just because we are all too close to this.

My wife was referred back to hospice care about 5 weeks ago. Due to insurance and other issues, we have been in limbo throughout that time and still are... trying to understand if she is going back to hospicae care or to in home palliative care (if we can determine that is actually a thing in our area, as it should be IMO), or staying in her current level of care.

She is suffering terribly. It is very hard to watch, and I feel very helpless. I came home from work today to find her crying in terrible pain. I did what I could, which isn't much.

The way our system works, she is an outlier with regard to pain management. Under normal health care, she cannot get adequate pain management, which is our current situation. When in hospice care, those limits do not apply,... which helps her to the point that it leads to the impression that she doesn't need to be in hospice care... but returning to regular care, she cannot get adequate pain management. It is a catch 22.

When she 'graduated' from hospice care, I expressed this exact concern to her caregivers. I predicted exactly what has happened. And here we are, waiting for a determination.

We live with her parents. Her mother is beside herself with emotion over this. I worry about her, too.

I am normally someone who is fairly impervious to stress, but I have to say that this is getting to me. I can't solve this problem, and it's killing me.

Thanks for letting me vent this out. It helps. I appreciate all of your support.
 
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Hi everyone. Here to post a happy update.

My wife 'graduated' from hospice care effective June 6. I learned through this process that, while in hospice care, the hospice team had to certify her status every 2 months. Part of that certification was answering the question, is the patient within 6 months of the end of his/her life? They had answered yes to that every time until the most recent time, when they answered no. This is obviously a great development for us. It is in large part a credit to the excellent quality of hospice care she received. I am eternally grateful to those nurses.

My wife is still in a very challenging state of healthcare. She has not been out of our bed since last September other than for medical transport to and from the hospital. She has a catheter and multiple wounds that will continue to require home healthcare. She also still suffers from severe chronic pain, although she is no longer on the pain pump, which is a good thing.

In addition, while in hospice care, everything is centralized and generally covered without insurance challenges. Everything is also delivered in the home. Now, we are adjusting to new providers, back to the normal state of healthcare insurance challenges, and will have to figure out how to transport her to appointments out of the home.

But... these are great challenges to have.

Once again, I really appreciate the support I have gotten from this community. Because of my wife's condition, she is largely isolated, and that has made my life largely isolated, other than going to work (and living with her parents, which is often like living in a sitcom...). This forum has been a great place to come to take my mind off of these challenges and also to get support for dealing with them.

:thanks:

Here to post a less happy update. I just need to get some of this out, so appreciate you all reading. I can't talk about some of this with my family just because we are all too close to this.

My wife was referred back to hospice care about 5 weeks ago. Due to insurance and other issues, we have been in limbo throughout that time and still are... trying to understand if she is going back to hospicae care or to in home palliative care (if we can determine that is actually a thing in our area, as it should be IMO), or staying in her current level of care.

She is suffering terribly. It is very hard to watch, and I feel very helpless. I came home from work today to find her crying in terrible pain. I did what I could, which isn't much.

The way our system works, she is an outlier with regard to pain management. Under normal health care, she cannot get adequate pain management, which is our current situation. When in hospice care, those limits do not apply,... which helps her to the point that it leads to the impression that she doesn't need to be in hospice care... but returning to regular care, she cannot get adequate pain management. It is a catch 22.

When she 'graduated' from hospice care, I expressed this exact concern to her caregivers. I predicted exactly what has happened. And here we are, waiting for a determination.

We live with her parents. Her mother is beside herself with emotion over this. I worry about her, too.

I am normally someone who is fairly impervious to stress, but I have to say that this is getting to me. I can't solve this problem, and it's killing me.

Thanks for letting me vent this out. It helps. I appreciate all of your support.

It’s something I wouldn’t wish upon anyone. I can’t offer you much, but what I can maybe do is say that if you ever need to vent further, then I won’t object to it. I’ll try to read it and remember what you both are going through so that there is at least a witness to this and you’re not fully alone.

God bless you, brother. I pray that you sleep well tonight.
 
Hi everyone. Here to post a happy update.

My wife 'graduated' from hospice care effective June 6. I learned through this process that, while in hospice care, the hospice team had to certify her status every 2 months. Part of that certification was answering the question, is the patient within 6 months of the end of his/her life? They had answered yes to that every time until the most recent time, when they answered no. This is obviously a great development for us. It is in large part a credit to the excellent quality of hospice care she received. I am eternally grateful to those nurses.

My wife is still in a very challenging state of healthcare. She has not been out of our bed since last September other than for medical transport to and from the hospital. She has a catheter and multiple wounds that will continue to require home healthcare. She also still suffers from severe chronic pain, although she is no longer on the pain pump, which is a good thing.

In addition, while in hospice care, everything is centralized and generally covered without insurance challenges. Everything is also delivered in the home. Now, we are adjusting to new providers, back to the normal state of healthcare insurance challenges, and will have to figure out how to transport her to appointments out of the home.

But... these are great challenges to have.

Once again, I really appreciate the support I have gotten from this community. Because of my wife's condition, she is largely isolated, and that has made my life largely isolated, other than going to work (and living with her parents, which is often like living in a sitcom...). This forum has been a great place to come to take my mind off of these challenges and also to get support for dealing with them.

:thanks:

Here to post a less happy update. I just need to get some of this out, so appreciate you all reading. I can't talk about some of this with my family just because we are all too close to this.

My wife was referred back to hospice care about 5 weeks ago. Due to insurance and other issues, we have been in limbo throughout that time and still are... trying to understand if she is going back to hospicae care or to in home palliative care (if we can determine that is actually a thing in our area, as it should be IMO), or staying in her current level of care.

She is suffering terribly. It is very hard to watch, and I feel very helpless. I came home from work today to find her crying in terrible pain. I did what I could, which isn't much.

The way our system works, she is an outlier with regard to pain management. Under normal health care, she cannot get adequate pain management, which is our current situation. When in hospice care, those limits do not apply,... which helps her to the point that it leads to the impression that she doesn't need to be in hospice care... but returning to regular care, she cannot get adequate pain management. It is a catch 22.

When she 'graduated' from hospice care, I expressed this exact concern to her caregivers. I predicted exactly what has happened. And here we are, waiting for a determination.

We live with her parents. Her mother is beside herself with emotion over this. I worry about her, too.

I am normally someone who is fairly impervious to stress, but I have to say that this is getting to me. I can't solve this problem, and it's killing me.

Thanks for letting me vent this out. It helps. I appreciate all of your support.
We ♥️ love you
This is hitting me hard tonight

"Pain Management" I take it THC is of little use because I'm happy to provide it. Still about 20 States it's not legal and North Carolina is definitely one of them as hard as that is to believe
Morphine, Cocaine, what is it your wife needs to manage the pain because whatever they provide at hospice is STRONG and likely an addictive pain killer of one kind or another

She must have a doctor that can provide heavy pain relief, that's a major chunk of what doctors are paid to do, they're not finding cures for cancer
They get paid to make the pain go away and to try and extend peoples lives, there's very little outside of that they can do to help despite their scholastic achievements
If your doctor currently cannot make her pain manageable then I would be seeking out other doctors until i found the right one

-I'm going to make a big suggestion....how old is her primary doctor? I wouldn't want one over the age of 30-35 and I'll explain...the younger ones are fresh out of med school and every one of them will verify what I stated about pain management, they drill it into their heads when they go to med school these days, again these doctors are not curing any diseases, they are mostly in the business of making the pain go away, look at all the drug commercials for gawds sake, they're all about some pain that people suddenly feel they need to call their doctor

I have an entire thread dedicated to the drug companies, now is not the time
I would be searching out young doctors fresh out of school and be up front that you need pain management and not their 35 years of experience

Thoughts and Prayers are not good enough right now, we need direct action to help your wife
She needs the same level of pain relief she receives at hospice when she's not at hospice, how can we make that happen?

Once again, we love ♥️ you around here and you need a support group yourself, it's painful trying to absorb what you both are going thru
The guilt you post for not being able to make her pain go away and she's crying to you on the phone, my fingers are trembling right now, I can't imagine the pain you must feel

Hang in there Tau
✝️
 
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If your doctor currently cannot make her pain manageable then I would be seeking out other doctors until i found the right one
The problem here isn't necessarily the doctor. After the opioid addiction scandal, the law prohibited doctors from prescribing opioids in so many cases. (Mr R has kidney stones. Going to the doctor while passing a stone is just not possible. The medicine needs to be on hand to be of any use. His doc can no longer call in a prescription for five pills or prescribe in advance. Ridiculous.)
 
Perhaps contacting Tim Kaine would obtain some help for you. He seems like a nice person.

I don't follow. I am not a politics guy, and I know virtually nothing about Kaine.
Not a politics issue. I really dislike Ron Paul, who was the representative for the local Congressional district. However, he did provide real help for veterans and others in need of medical assistance through advocacy. A senator might be able to cut through some of the nonsense preventing your wife from getting the care she really needs. It's kind of like calling your local TV station for assistance with a city issue.
 

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