fred_1_15301
Footballguy
How do the refs call that a completion at first?
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**Wildcard MNF - Vikings at Rams** (+1.5, 47) 8:15 on ABC (1 Viewer)
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
He won 14 games with Sam Darnold as his Quarterback
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I wonder if Higbee is back next week. If not, that's a huge loss for the Rams.
The Gator
Footballguy
Did that make him manage a playoff game very poorly? Both can be true
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Vikings over-achieved in the regular season and underachieved in the post-season. Not surprising they are still not built to control the line of scrimmage. Better luck next year.
dkp993
Footballguy
Sure but playcalling tonight was atrocious. Didn’t adjust. O-line getting dominated yet still calls slow long developing plays. Needed to move to some quick hitting passes to back off the D. Never did and Sam got killed.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Ah, gotcha. Aikman and Buck are both dicks. Met them on Park Ave in NY one time, late-2000s. With their Fox tv crew. The crew was amazing. Great guys. Aikman and Buck? Total dicks.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
The Vikings can still win if Mike Pence has the courage.
rockaction
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Gotta break out the classics from time to time.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
He won 14 Games with Sam Darnold as his QB after his rookie QB got injured in the preseason
I think he should get a medal
rockaction
Footballguy
So we’ve got some great matchups coming up. Nothing here that anybody would be really surprised by at the beginning of the year except Washington.
KC - Houston
Buffalo - Baltimore
Detroit-Washington
Philadelphia-L.A.
I wonder who plays when?
KC - Houston
Buffalo - Baltimore
Detroit-Washington
Philadelphia-L.A.
I wonder who plays when?
Insein
Footballguy
I'll allow it.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
I’m there with you. I just want to know where it came from.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I think the NFL really needs a Philly/Detroit matchup. In the AFC, I’ll take anyone but Houston. I still think Baltimore is the most complete team. I’m supposed to be programmed to hate them but meh.
Insein
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’ll definitely take Houston because that means I don’t have to to watch the Chiefs anymore.
I'm EXPECTING (not hoping) McCarthy to be an instant top-3 NFC QB next year. If Darnold did this, imagine what a good really player could?
ETA: Justin Herbert threw 4 INTs, including a pick six, and isn't even in the running for worst QB of the week. That was a performance that took Darnold to probably being on the Russell Wilson level of 1 year deal QBs. He took 9 sacks, maybe 2 of which weren't 100% on him. He had no accuracy, even the TD to Hockenson was a terrible throw, and just looked confused.
It was truly horrendous.
And like you said, the majority of the sacks were his fault. You can’t ask the o-line to hold guys back for 7 seconds while you run around aimlessly in the pocket.
As a Bears fan, I thought it was as bad or worse than anything Caleb Williams or Justin Fields have put on tape. And those guys hold it forever.
I wouldn't have blamed them for putting Daniel Jones in. If they'd told me Darnold got concussed in pregame warmups, I wouldn't be surprised, he looked like he had no idea what he was doing out there. This was Darnold at his Jets worst, and I don't know how any team can seriously look at him as anything more than a bridge QB. Should 2 games outweigh 16 others? When they are this embarrassing and given his career to date, those 16 games look like the far bigger outlier than the 2 in my opinion.
The Gator
Footballguy
Again, you think because one thing happened the other can't. KoC has flaws, they showed tonight regardless of the regular season.
fatness
Footballguy
Some supposed "offensive geniuses" are like that -- excelling at esoteric pass patterns while not noticing their line and QB are getting beat up all game.
fatness
Footballguy
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I have to think the magnitude of the situation finally caught up with Darnold, as he has looked like a shell of what he has looked like these last two games. The guy had a heck of a year, but with FA status and the media attention of his season he just did not look comfortable. He will still get paid regardless of whom it comes from, hopefully he can continue success somewhere as he seems like a good dude.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Given how the Vikings and Packers played, it sure seems like the NFC North benefited from an easy schedule this year.
I do think the Lions are legit because they continued to do what they did last year.
I do think the Lions are legit because they continued to do what they did last year.
The Rams are good. They beat the Bills let's not forget. Also played the Lions tough.
The Eagles are very good. The Packers were banged up going in and lost a few players during the game.
Also, Darnold played lights out all year until it mattered.
I wouldn't look too much into this weekend.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
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ETA: Handle your business this weekend and we can have some good banter next week.
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Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Vikings were a tough team all season. To have their top pick out for the year and starting a castoff QB already on his 4th team at 27 they had a great season. I was surprised that Darnold had that big of a fall off the last 2 games after being solid all season.
Then there are some calls that don`t go your way that change a game. The Stafford fumble-forward pass was a the very least grounding. Stafford was tied up face down looking at the turf. That was a big play even if just grounding was called.
Then there are some calls that don`t go your way that change a game. The Stafford fumble-forward pass was a the very least grounding. Stafford was tied up face down looking at the turf. That was a big play even if just grounding was called.
packer_junkie
Footballguy
Awesome game. This packer fan needed that haha
rockaction
Footballguy
I agree with you and have been saying this since about Week Whatever It Was Bobby Layne started chirping about how good the North was.
Mmmmm, no. It was an easy, unbalanced schedule.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
The NFC North looks like it may be a fraud division.
So the Vikings lost all games to teams in the Final four of the NFC. Packers lost all games to two teams in the NFC final four and the Vikings (whose only losses were to the teams in the NFC final four.
Maybe they are good teams but not as good as the Three of the final four NFC teams in the Eagles, Lions, and Rams.
All of the losses from those two teams are to teams in the NFC final four. They are good teams.......just not as good as the Lions, Eagles, and Rams.
dkp993
Footballguy
These are eastern times just to be clear.
Insein
Footballguy
Correct
simsarge
Footballguy
Disagree. That's what throwing a guy open means. Receiver is "covered" in the traditional sense and the QB throws it anyway. But puts it only where his guy will make a play and only he can get it (theoretically) Low, behind, back shoulder, etc
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Some might say it was a bad throw under pressure because Stafford was getting crushed.
They would say that because they watched the play and that’s exactly what happened.
Saying he was throwing Kupp open would be completely inaccurate. All due respect.
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