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The video evidence is pretty strong that Wilfork went after Losman's knee with his elbow as he was falling.

And he gets a slap on the wrist...

But if a player breaks the law off the field he gets suspended for several games without pay...

Wilfork's hit, while dirty and harmful to another player, isn't necessarily going to harm the NFL's corporate sponsorships while the appearance that the NFL is a league run amok by thugs could cause some Big Business to invest elsewhere... God, the NFL needs a union leader with a backbone in a bad bad way. (Cue On the Waterfront)

For those that want a video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3POT8n2Qk3g

 
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The video evidence is pretty strong that Wilford went after Losman's knee with his elbow as he was falling.

And he gets a slap on the wrist...

But if a player breaks the law off the field he gets suspended for several games without pay...

Wilford's hit, while dirty and harmful to another player, isn't necessarily going to harm the NFL's corporate sponsorships while the appearance that the NFL is a league run amok by thugs could cause some Big Business to invest elsewhere... God, the NFL needs a union leader with a backbone in a bad bad way. (Cue On the Waterfront)

For those that want a video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3POT8n2Qk3g
:goodposting: you don't even know the guy's name, but you're ready to jump on the bandwagon.

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Wilfork hit with $12,500 fine by NFL

He insists play wasn't dirty

By Christopher L. Gasper, Globe Staff | September 28, 2007

FOXBOROUGH - Patriots nose tackle Vince Wilfork is good at shedding blockers. Now he's trying to shed the notion that his hit last Sunday on Buffalo Bills quarterback J.P. Losman, a blow that resulted in a $12,500 fine yesterday from the NFL, was a dirty play.

A flailing Wilfork struck Losman square on the left knee with his right elbow on Buffalo's first offensive snap, a 4-yard completion to Marshawn Lynch. Wilfork received a 15-yard penalty for roughing the passer and Losman had to leave the game at the conclusion of the series with a sprained knee.

News of the fine wasn't known yesterday when an emotional Wilfork defended his actions and reputation. He said the hit was unintentional and that he deeply resented being characterized as a dirty player. Wilfork blamed a misinterpretation of the comments he made on WEEI Monday, when he said he expected to be fined and that he wasn't "losing any sleep over it," for part of the negative backlash.

"The only reason I talked about a fine is they got a rule for quarterbacks, you hit them below the waist and you are subject to a fine," said Wilfork. "A lot of people probably think Wilfork don't care; he's looking for the fine. That wasn't the fact. I got penalized for that. There are consequences.

"Now, did I mean to do that? Far from it. If you know me as a person or a player, then it wouldn't be an issue because they know I have too much love and respect for this game and for players for me to ever be a dirty player. If you don't know me, don't judge me, point blank.

"You've got a lot of people out there saying, 'That was a dirty hit.' If you don't know me, get to know me because if you know me, that won't be a question. I'm not a dirty player."

Losman and other Bills players weren't convinced. They felt Wilfork's fine wasn't enough.

"I watched the tape once and it was enough for me," Losman told Buffalobills.com, the team's website. "It was pretty nasty. It looked like he had an opportunity to pull up. He's trying to make a play for his team and it's football, but I think he got off easy."

Said Buffalo linebacker Coy Wire, "Is [$12,500] worth your starting quarterback missing however many games? I don't think so."

Wilfork said he lost his balance on the play with one Bills lineman tripping him and another at his left leg. The 6-foot-2-inch, 325-pound Wilfork said body control is a luxury he doesn't have at his weight.

"You're tripping at 300-something pounds, I have no idea what's going on," said Wilfork. "I have no idea where my arm is at. I mean, like I said, it wasn't intentional and that's the main thing I want to get out. It wasn't intentional. For everybody to say that I'm a dirty player or that was a dirty blow, not at all. Like I said, if you know me as a person, you'll understand that."

Bills general manager Marv Levy, who was in the press box at Gillette Stadium for his team's 38-7 loss, admitted his stance on the play has softened.

"When I saw what happened, I was irate," said Levy. "But I've looked at the film countless times to see if there was propulsion from another player that sent him into that position at that speed. It's hard to tell. I'm not going to throw forth an accusation. I can't say it was an obvious dirty play."

Levy said Losman will not play Sunday against the New York Jets. Rookie Trent Edwards, who relieved Losman against New England, will get the start. Levy estimated Losman would be out four to six weeks. That would put Losman on track to be back before the Bills host the Patriots Nov. 18.

Wilfork might be public enemy No. 1 in upstate New York by that time, or if Edwards plays well, he could be the Bills' version of former Jets linebacker Mo Lewis, who cleared the way for the Tom Brady Era with a scary - but legal - hit on Drew Bledsoe in 2001.



Wilfork, who played with Buffalo wide receiver Roscoe Parrish at the University of Miami, said he has attempted to reach out to Losman to express his regret about the injury and let him know the hit was unintentional.

"A player was hurt and I had something to do with it. I'll be trying to get him, trust me," Wilfork said.

Losman didn't seem eager to accept an apology.

"I don't think there's an apology needed," Losman said. "I'm not looking for an apology. At this point, the damage is done. An apology will do nothing at this point. I'm fortunate that it wasn't as serious as I thought initially."

So, it seems the big nose tackle's reputation has taken just as big a hit as Losman's knee. That bothers Wilfork.

"Yeah, when I leave this earth, I'm going to leave with one thing and that's my name," said Wilfork. "Don't bash my name just because of one incident. It's all good as long as he understands that it wasn't intentional and that organization knows that wasn't intentional, I'm fine. Let's move on to Cincinnati."
 
The video evidence is pretty strong that Wilford went after Losman's knee with his elbow as he was falling.

And he gets a slap on the wrist...

But if a player breaks the law off the field he gets suspended for several games without pay...

Wilford's hit, while dirty and harmful to another player, isn't necessarily going to harm the NFL's corporate sponsorships while the appearance that the NFL is a league run amok by thugs could cause some Big Business to invest elsewhere... God, the NFL needs a union leader with a backbone in a bad bad way. (Cue On the Waterfront)

For those that want a video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3POT8n2Qk3g
Get a grip, man. Wilfork apologized for the incident, has repeatedly stated that he didnt do it on purpose, and has even tried to call Losman to apologize. More Pats hating BS then ever.

 
The video evidence is pretty strong that Wilford went after Losman's knee with his elbow as he was falling.

And he gets a slap on the wrist...

But if a player breaks the law off the field he gets suspended for several games without pay...

Wilford's hit, while dirty and harmful to another player, isn't necessarily going to harm the NFL's corporate sponsorships while the appearance that the NFL is a league run amok by thugs could cause some Big Business to invest elsewhere... God, the NFL needs a union leader with a backbone in a bad bad way. (Cue On the Waterfront)

For those that want a video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3POT8n2Qk3g
:clyde: you don't even know the guy's name, but you're ready to jump on the bandwagon.

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Wilfork hit with $12,500 fine by NFL

He insists play wasn't dirty

By Christopher L. Gasper, Globe Staff | September 28, 2007

FOXBOROUGH - Patriots nose tackle Vince Wilfork is good at shedding blockers. Now he's trying to shed the notion that his hit last Sunday on Buffalo Bills quarterback J.P. Losman, a blow that resulted in a $12,500 fine yesterday from the NFL, was a dirty play.

A flailing Wilfork struck Losman square on the left knee with his right elbow on Buffalo's first offensive snap, a 4-yard completion to Marshawn Lynch. Wilfork received a 15-yard penalty for roughing the passer and Losman had to leave the game at the conclusion of the series with a sprained knee.

News of the fine wasn't known yesterday when an emotional Wilfork defended his actions and reputation. He said the hit was unintentional and that he deeply resented being characterized as a dirty player. Wilfork blamed a misinterpretation of the comments he made on WEEI Monday, when he said he expected to be fined and that he wasn't "losing any sleep over it," for part of the negative backlash.

"The only reason I talked about a fine is they got a rule for quarterbacks, you hit them below the waist and you are subject to a fine," said Wilfork. "A lot of people probably think Wilfork don't care; he's looking for the fine. That wasn't the fact. I got penalized for that. There are consequences.

"Now, did I mean to do that? Far from it. If you know me as a person or a player, then it wouldn't be an issue because they know I have too much love and respect for this game and for players for me to ever be a dirty player. If you don't know me, don't judge me, point blank.

"You've got a lot of people out there saying, 'That was a dirty hit.' If you don't know me, get to know me because if you know me, that won't be a question. I'm not a dirty player."

Losman and other Bills players weren't convinced. They felt Wilfork's fine wasn't enough.

"I watched the tape once and it was enough for me," Losman told Buffalobills.com, the team's website. "It was pretty nasty. It looked like he had an opportunity to pull up. He's trying to make a play for his team and it's football, but I think he got off easy."

Said Buffalo linebacker Coy Wire, "Is [$12,500] worth your starting quarterback missing however many games? I don't think so."

Wilfork said he lost his balance on the play with one Bills lineman tripping him and another at his left leg. The 6-foot-2-inch, 325-pound Wilfork said body control is a luxury he doesn't have at his weight.

"You're tripping at 300-something pounds, I have no idea what's going on," said Wilfork. "I have no idea where my arm is at. I mean, like I said, it wasn't intentional and that's the main thing I want to get out. It wasn't intentional. For everybody to say that I'm a dirty player or that was a dirty blow, not at all. Like I said, if you know me as a person, you'll understand that."

Bills general manager Marv Levy, who was in the press box at Gillette Stadium for his team's 38-7 loss, admitted his stance on the play has softened.

"When I saw what happened, I was irate," said Levy. "But I've looked at the film countless times to see if there was propulsion from another player that sent him into that position at that speed. It's hard to tell. I'm not going to throw forth an accusation. I can't say it was an obvious dirty play."

Levy said Losman will not play Sunday against the New York Jets. Rookie Trent Edwards, who relieved Losman against New England, will get the start. Levy estimated Losman would be out four to six weeks. That would put Losman on track to be back before the Bills host the Patriots Nov. 18.

Wilfork might be public enemy No. 1 in upstate New York by that time, or if Edwards plays well, he could be the Bills' version of former Jets linebacker Mo Lewis, who cleared the way for the Tom Brady Era with a scary - but legal - hit on Drew Bledsoe in 2001.



Wilfork, who played with Buffalo wide receiver Roscoe Parrish at the University of Miami, said he has attempted to reach out to Losman to express his regret about the injury and let him know the hit was unintentional.

"A player was hurt and I had something to do with it. I'll be trying to get him, trust me," Wilfork said.

Losman didn't seem eager to accept an apology.

"I don't think there's an apology needed," Losman said. "I'm not looking for an apology. At this point, the damage is done. An apology will do nothing at this point. I'm fortunate that it wasn't as serious as I thought initially."

So, it seems the big nose tackle's reputation has taken just as big a hit as Losman's knee. That bothers Wilfork.

"Yeah, when I leave this earth, I'm going to leave with one thing and that's my name," said Wilfork. "Don't bash my name just because of one incident. It's all good as long as he understands that it wasn't intentional and that organization knows that wasn't intentional, I'm fine. Let's move on to Cincinnati."
Pacman Jones has never been convicted either.... :yes:
 
The video evidence is pretty strong that Wilford went after Losman's knee with his elbow as he was falling.

And he gets a slap on the wrist...

But if a player breaks the law off the field he gets suspended for several games without pay...

Wilford's hit, while dirty and harmful to another player, isn't necessarily going to harm the NFL's corporate sponsorships while the appearance that the NFL is a league run amok by thugs could cause some Big Business to invest elsewhere... God, the NFL needs a union leader with a backbone in a bad bad way. (Cue On the Waterfront)

For those that want a video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3POT8n2Qk3g
Get a grip, man. Wilfork apologized for the incident, has repeatedly stated that he didnt do it on purpose, and has even tried to call Losman to apologize. More Pats hating BS then ever.
Dude, have you watched the video?
 
The video evidence is pretty strong that Wilford went after Losman's knee with his elbow as he was falling.

And he gets a slap on the wrist...

But if a player breaks the law off the field he gets suspended for several games without pay...

Wilford's hit, while dirty and harmful to another player, isn't necessarily going to harm the NFL's corporate sponsorships while the appearance that the NFL is a league run amok by thugs could cause some Big Business to invest elsewhere... God, the NFL needs a union leader with a backbone in a bad bad way. (Cue On the Waterfront)

For those that want a video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3POT8n2Qk3g
Get a grip, man. Wilfork apologized for the incident, has repeatedly stated that he didnt do it on purpose, and has even tried to call Losman to apologize. More Pats hating BS then ever.
Dude, have you watched the video?
Pats LOVE to watch video :clyde:
 
Get a grip, man. Wilfork apologized for the incident, has repeatedly stated that he didnt do it on purpose, and has even tried to call Losman to apologize.

More Pats hating BS then ever.
What exactly did you expect him to say? He would have said that no matter his intent was. And if Im in that spot - the only way I would ever wind up and throw my elbow into your kneee like he did... is intentionally. Unless, maybe, cerebal palsy was ivolved.

 
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Wilfork said he lost his balance on the play with one Bills lineman tripping him and another at his left leg. The 6-foot-2-inch, 325-pound Wilfork said body control is a luxury he doesn't have at his weight."You're tripping at 300-something pounds, I have no idea what's going on," said Wilfork. "I have no idea where my arm is at. I mean, like I said, it wasn't intentional and that's the main thing I want to get out. It wasn't intentional. For everybody to say that I'm a dirty player or that was a dirty blow, not at all. Like I said, if you know me as a person, you'll understand that."
:scared: "I'm just a big 300lb spazz that has absolutely no control over my body. I'm just flopping around like a fish out there. I'm lucky that I can even stand in a three point stance without falling down before the snap. Just because I'm one of the best DT's in professional football and a tremendous athlete doesn't mean that I have more control over my body than somebody getting tasered." :popcorn:
 
Wilfork said he lost his balance on the play with one Bills lineman tripping him and another at his left leg. The 6-foot-2-inch, 325-pound Wilfork said body control is a luxury he doesn't have at his weight."You're tripping at 300-something pounds, I have no idea what's going on," said Wilfork. "I have no idea where my arm is at. I mean, like I said, it wasn't intentional and that's the main thing I want to get out. It wasn't intentional. For everybody to say that I'm a dirty player or that was a dirty blow, not at all. Like I said, if you know me as a person, you'll understand that."
:unsure: "I'm just a big 300lb spazz that has absolutely no control over my body. I'm just flopping around like a fish out there. I'm lucky that I can even stand in a three point stance without falling down before the snap. Just because I'm one of the best DT's in professional football and a tremendous athlete doesn't mean that I have more control over my body than somebody getting tasered." :scared:
:popcorn: :lmao:
 
Get a grip, man. Wilfork apologized for the incident, has repeatedly stated that he didnt do it on purpose, and has even tried to call Losman to apologize.

More Pats hating BS then ever.
What exactly did you expect him to say? He would have said that no matter his intent was. And if Im in that spot - the only way I would ever wind up and throw my elbow into your kneee like he did... is intentionally. Unless, maybe, cerebal palsy was ivolved.
most guys wouldnt call. Wilfork isnt a bad dude.
 
I like the Pats - I'm no hater.

But that hit is intentional. NOBODY sticks out an elbow like that "accidentally". That's ridiculous.

OF COURSE he is going to say it was not intentional. When your livelihood and reputation are about to suffer serious consequences, PEOPLE LIE. Wilfork is lying. I see it every single day as a trial lawyer.

 
Wilfork's a pretty clean cut guy.

He has no history of dirty play.

If this is Rodney Harrison, I'd buy that he was trying to take the guy out. Not Wilfork though.

I find it humorous that it is the same cast of characters that flock to these NE Patriot threads... those wounds must be deep.

When I first saw the play, my initial reaction was , "Oh no" too.

But knowing Wilfork's reputation and after hearing his explanation and watching the video numerous times, I don't think it was intentional.

Wilfork was busting thru the line... he was caught from behind, around the ankles, as he was falling is back/side was facing the QB as his arm extended to brace for the fall. Wilfork wasn't even looking at where he was going to land.

You have somebody wrap you ankles up while you're in mid sprint and your arms and elbows would outstretch to brace for the fall too.

 
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The video evidence is pretty strong that Wilford went after Losman's knee with his elbow as he was falling.

And he gets a slap on the wrist...

But if a player breaks the law off the field he gets suspended for several games without pay...

Wilford's hit, while dirty and harmful to another player, isn't necessarily going to harm the NFL's corporate sponsorships while the appearance that the NFL is a league run amok by thugs could cause some Big Business to invest elsewhere... God, the NFL needs a union leader with a backbone in a bad bad way. (Cue On the Waterfront)

For those that want a video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3POT8n2Qk3g
Get a grip, man. Wilfork apologized for the incident, has repeatedly stated that he didnt do it on purpose, and has even tried to call Losman to apologize. More Pats hating BS then ever.
Dude, have you watched the video?
Pats LOVE to watch video :stalker:
im a Pats fan, but thats funny!! :D
 
Dockery got fined $5,000 for not buckling his chin strap.

Wilfork got fined $12,500 for a dangerous, late hit that knocked out the Bills starting QB for 2 or 3 games

:stalker:

 
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Wilfork said he lost his balance on the play with one Bills lineman tripping him and another at his left leg. The 6-foot-2-inch, 325-pound Wilfork said body control is a luxury he doesn't have at his weight."You're tripping at 300-something pounds, I have no idea what's going on," said Wilfork. "I have no idea where my arm is at. I mean, like I said, it wasn't intentional and that's the main thing I want to get out. It wasn't intentional. For everybody to say that I'm a dirty player or that was a dirty blow, not at all. Like I said, if you know me as a person, you'll understand that."
:D "I'm just a big 300lb spazz that has absolutely no control over my body. I'm just flopping around like a fish out there. I'm lucky that I can even stand in a three point stance without falling down before the snap. Just because I'm one of the best DT's in professional football and a tremendous athlete doesn't mean that I have more control over my body than somebody getting tasered." :stalker:
Wow, could you blow his comment any more out of proportion? Let me guess, Bills fan?
 
Wilfork's a pretty clean cut guy.

He has no history of dirty play.
After the fined was levied against him the Patriots' defensive tackle stated that he's not one to hand out cheap shots.

"I'm far from a dirty player," Wilfork told the NFL Network. "If you know me as a person, you'd understand that. If you don't know me, don't judge me. If you don't know me, get to know me."

But this is not the first time Wilfork has been accused of playing dirty against the Bills. In a Bills-Patriots game in Buffalo on Oct. 3, 2004, Wilfork was accused by former Bills offensive linemen Jonas Jennings and Chris Villarrial of taking cheap shots at them during the game.

The incident happened behind the play. Following a six-yard completion from Drew Bledsoe to Eric Moulds, Jennings who was blocking Richard Seymour on the play was blindsided by Wilfork who initiated a helmet-to-helmet hit on the Buffalo tackle.

The hit cracked Jennings helmet near his jaw and Jennings was knocked out cold sustaining a concussion.

"It was almost like it was premeditated, like they set me up," Jennings told the Associated Press at the time.

Jennings had exchanged words with Wilfork earlier in that game when he saw the defensive tackle kick Villarrial in the ribs when he was on the ground following a first quarter field goal by Rian Lindell.

"It was a dirty thing to do," Villarrial told the AP a few days after the game. "Let's be obvious, anybody that's down on the ground, you don't kick them."

Losman, who was a rookie with the Bills that season, said he remembered the incident.
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5321

 
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Wilfork's a pretty clean cut guy.He has no history of dirty play.If this is Rodney Harrison, I'd buy that he was trying to take the guy out. Not Wilfork though.I find it humorous that it is the same cast of characters that flock to these NE Patriot threads... those wounds must be deep.When I first saw the play, my initial reaction was , "Oh no" too.But knowing Wilfork's reputation and after hearing his explanation and watching the video numerous times, I don't think it was intentional.Wilfork was busting thru the line... he was caught from behind, around the ankles, as he was falling is back/side was facing the QB as his arm extended to brace for the fall. Wilfork wasn't even looking at where he was going to land.You have somebody wrap you ankles up while you're in mid sprint and your arms and elbows would outstretch to brace for the fall too.
koolaid is delicious.
 
Wilfork said he lost his balance on the play with one Bills lineman tripping him and another at his left leg. The 6-foot-2-inch, 325-pound Wilfork said body control is a luxury he doesn't have at his weight."You're tripping at 300-something pounds, I have no idea what's going on," said Wilfork. "I have no idea where my arm is at. I mean, like I said, it wasn't intentional and that's the main thing I want to get out. It wasn't intentional. For everybody to say that I'm a dirty player or that was a dirty blow, not at all. Like I said, if you know me as a person, you'll understand that."
:D "I'm just a big 300lb spazz that has absolutely no control over my body. I'm just flopping around like a fish out there. I'm lucky that I can even stand in a three point stance without falling down before the snap. Just because I'm one of the best DT's in professional football and a tremendous athlete doesn't mean that I have more control over my body than somebody getting tasered." :stalker:
Wow, could you blow his comment any more out of proportion? Let me guess, Bills fan?
Yeah, I'm a Bills fan and I'm tired of all the cheap shots that the Patriots are always delivering against the Bills.Let me guess, Pats fan?
 
I don't believe Wilfork's hit was intentional. Why would intentionally hurt JP Losman? If anything, Losman is the kind of QB you want to go out of your way to not hurt and ensure that he continues to remain in the game.

 
I find it humorous that it is the same cast of characters that flock to these NE Patriot threads... those wounds must be deep.
The Pats and their fans aren't as special as you think. Bengal fans are STILL complaining about Kimo von Oelhoffen.
 
Get a grip, man. Wilfork apologized for the incident, has repeatedly stated that he didnt do it on purpose, and has even tried to call Losman to apologize.

More Pats hating BS then ever.
What exactly did you expect him to say? He would have said that no matter his intent was. And if Im in that spot - the only way I would ever wind up and throw my elbow into your kneee like he did... is intentionally. Unless, maybe, cerebal palsy was ivolved.
most guys wouldnt call. Wilfork isnt a bad dude.
The only thing you know is what he told you.And he already lied about his intent.

 
Dockery got fined $5,000 for not buckling his chin strap.Wilfork got fined $12,500 for a dangerous, late hit that knocked out the Bills starting QB for 2 or 3 games:stalker:
That's the issue. The NFL loves to fine guys for 5k or 7.5k for extraneous TD celebrations or something of the like, but when it comes to a dirty play ON the field the punishment simply doesn't fit what you'd expect. Pretty ridiculous IMO
 
Wilfork's a pretty clean cut guy.

He has no history of dirty play.

If this is Rodney Harrison, I'd buy that he was trying to take the guy out. Not Wilfork though.

I find it humorous that it is the same cast of characters that flock to these NE Patriot threads... those wounds must be deep.

When I first saw the play, my initial reaction was , "Oh no" too.

But knowing Wilfork's reputation and after hearing his explanation and watching the video numerous times, I don't think it was intentional.

Wilfork was busting thru the line... he was caught from behind, around the ankles, as he was falling is back/side was facing the QB as his arm extended to brace for the fall. Wilfork wasn't even looking at where he was going to land.

You have somebody wrap you ankles up while you're in mid sprint and your arms and elbows would outstretch to brace for the fall too.
You can't be serious...He never tried to break his fall, he tried to put a dirty hit on the QB, and by throwing the point of his elbow straight into his knee, he was quite successful.

 
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Wilfork's a pretty clean cut guy.

He has no history of dirty play.
After the fined was levied against him the Patriots' defensive tackle stated that he's not one to hand out cheap shots.

"I'm far from a dirty player," Wilfork told the NFL Network. "If you know me as a person, you'd understand that. If you don't know me, don't judge me. If you don't know me, get to know me."

But this is not the first time Wilfork has been accused of playing dirty against the Bills. In a Bills-Patriots game in Buffalo on Oct. 3, 2004, Wilfork was accused by former Bills offensive linemen Jonas Jennings and Chris Villarrial of taking cheap shots at them during the game.

The incident happened behind the play. Following a six-yard completion from Drew Bledsoe to Eric Moulds, Jennings who was blocking Richard Seymour on the play was blindsided by Wilfork who initiated a helmet-to-helmet hit on the Buffalo tackle.

The hit cracked Jennings helmet near his jaw and Jennings was knocked out cold sustaining a concussion.

"It was almost like it was premeditated, like they set me up," Jennings told the Associated Press at the time.

Jennings had exchanged words with Wilfork earlier in that game when he saw the defensive tackle kick Villarrial in the ribs when he was on the ground following a first quarter field goal by Rian Lindell.

"It was a dirty thing to do," Villarrial told the AP a few days after the game. "Let's be obvious, anybody that's down on the ground, you don't kick them."

Losman, who was a rookie with the Bills that season, said he remembered the incident.
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5321
Well, every player can be accussed of something by someone at some point. As far as the Wilfork hit, I was watching the game and to me it looked he was going to be falling short but at least wanted to get a lick in on Losman. I'm not going to say he was trying to hit his knee. A few inches higher and its just a shot to the thigh.

Losman thinks it was a cheap shot, too. He can't like being on the sidelines with joe hero rookie qb getting the start.

Last thing Losman wants is that offense to run efficiently without him.

 
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Wilfork's a pretty clean cut guy.

He has no history of dirty play.
After the fined was levied against him the Patriots' defensive tackle stated that he's not one to hand out cheap shots.

"I'm far from a dirty player," Wilfork told the NFL Network. "If you know me as a person, you'd understand that. If you don't know me, don't judge me. If you don't know me, get to know me."

But this is not the first time Wilfork has been accused of playing dirty against the Bills. In a Bills-Patriots game in Buffalo on Oct. 3, 2004, Wilfork was accused by former Bills offensive linemen Jonas Jennings and Chris Villarrial of taking cheap shots at them during the game.

The incident happened behind the play. Following a six-yard completion from Drew Bledsoe to Eric Moulds, Jennings who was blocking Richard Seymour on the play was blindsided by Wilfork who initiated a helmet-to-helmet hit on the Buffalo tackle.

The hit cracked Jennings helmet near his jaw and Jennings was knocked out cold sustaining a concussion.

"It was almost like it was premeditated, like they set me up," Jennings told the Associated Press at the time.

Jennings had exchanged words with Wilfork earlier in that game when he saw the defensive tackle kick Villarrial in the ribs when he was on the ground following a first quarter field goal by Rian Lindell.

"It was a dirty thing to do," Villarrial told the AP a few days after the game. "Let's be obvious, anybody that's down on the ground, you don't kick them."

Losman, who was a rookie with the Bills that season, said he remembered the incident.
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5321
Well, every player can be accussed of something by someone at some point.
Thats a horrendous defense of his actions. :11:
 
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Wilfork's a pretty clean cut guy.

He has no history of dirty play.
After the fined was levied against him the Patriots' defensive tackle stated that he's not one to hand out cheap shots.

"I'm far from a dirty player," Wilfork told the NFL Network. "If you know me as a person, you'd understand that. If you don't know me, don't judge me. If you don't know me, get to know me."

But this is not the first time Wilfork has been accused of playing dirty against the Bills. In a Bills-Patriots game in Buffalo on Oct. 3, 2004, Wilfork was accused by former Bills offensive linemen Jonas Jennings and Chris Villarrial of taking cheap shots at them during the game.

The incident happened behind the play. Following a six-yard completion from Drew Bledsoe to Eric Moulds, Jennings who was blocking Richard Seymour on the play was blindsided by Wilfork who initiated a helmet-to-helmet hit on the Buffalo tackle.

The hit cracked Jennings helmet near his jaw and Jennings was knocked out cold sustaining a concussion.

"It was almost like it was premeditated, like they set me up," Jennings told the Associated Press at the time.

Jennings had exchanged words with Wilfork earlier in that game when he saw the defensive tackle kick Villarrial in the ribs when he was on the ground following a first quarter field goal by Rian Lindell.

"It was a dirty thing to do," Villarrial told the AP a few days after the game. "Let's be obvious, anybody that's down on the ground, you don't kick them."

Losman, who was a rookie with the Bills that season, said he remembered the incident.
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5321
Well, every player can be accussed of something by someone at some point.
Thats your defense of his actions? :11:
Didn't a Steeler cheap shot Palmer? Shut up.

I bet you can find a player in the league that could say something was dirty about another particular player in the league.

 
Wilfork's a pretty clean cut guy.

He has no history of dirty play.
After the fined was levied against him the Patriots' defensive tackle stated that he's not one to hand out cheap shots.

"I'm far from a dirty player," Wilfork told the NFL Network. "If you know me as a person, you'd understand that. If you don't know me, don't judge me. If you don't know me, get to know me."

But this is not the first time Wilfork has been accused of playing dirty against the Bills. In a Bills-Patriots game in Buffalo on Oct. 3, 2004, Wilfork was accused by former Bills offensive linemen Jonas Jennings and Chris Villarrial of taking cheap shots at them during the game.

The incident happened behind the play. Following a six-yard completion from Drew Bledsoe to Eric Moulds, Jennings who was blocking Richard Seymour on the play was blindsided by Wilfork who initiated a helmet-to-helmet hit on the Buffalo tackle.

The hit cracked Jennings helmet near his jaw and Jennings was knocked out cold sustaining a concussion.

"It was almost like it was premeditated, like they set me up," Jennings told the Associated Press at the time.

Jennings had exchanged words with Wilfork earlier in that game when he saw the defensive tackle kick Villarrial in the ribs when he was on the ground following a first quarter field goal by Rian Lindell.

"It was a dirty thing to do," Villarrial told the AP a few days after the game. "Let's be obvious, anybody that's down on the ground, you don't kick them."

Losman, who was a rookie with the Bills that season, said he remembered the incident.
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5321
Well, every player can be accussed of something by someone at some point.
Thats your defense of his actions? :11:
Didn't a Steeler cheap shot Palmer? Shut up.

I bet you can find a player in the league that could say something was dirty about another particular player in the league.
And again, what someone else does is not a defense of what Wilfork did. Your reasoning is lousy. Get a clue.
 
Get a grip, man. Wilfork apologized for the incident, has repeatedly stated that he didnt do it on purpose, and has even tried to call Losman to apologize.

More Pats hating BS then ever.
What exactly did you expect him to say? He would have said that no matter his intent was. And if Im in that spot - the only way I would ever wind up and throw my elbow into your kneee like he did... is intentionally. Unless, maybe, cerebal palsy was ivolved.
most guys wouldnt call. Wilfork isnt a bad dude.
Actually, Wilfork didn't try to call at all. He didn't attempt to call Losman. And despite what the article seems to indicate, he hasn't contacted Parrish either.
September 27, 2007 Posted By: Chris Brown | Time: 6:40 PM ET | Link

WILFORK'S FRIENDS?: In that NFL Network report on the fine Wilfork was quoted as saying he would try to reach out to Losman to apologize through some "friends" he has on the Bills. I talked to Roscoe Parrish who is a fellow University of Miami alum said he hasn't heard from Wilfork. Parrish's response didn't seem to indicate that he was tight with Wilfork, but who knows. Kevin Everett was the only other active roster player from Miami and he's got enough to worry about. J.P. doesn't want an apology anyway after I talked to him. ---
Link
 
I like the Pats - I'm no hater.But that hit is intentional. NOBODY sticks out an elbow like that "accidentally". That's ridiculous. OF COURSE he is going to say it was not intentional. When your livelihood and reputation are about to suffer serious consequences, PEOPLE LIE. Wilfork is lying. I see it every single day as a trial lawyer.
:lmao: That's exactly where I stand on this.
 
Wilfork's a pretty clean cut guy.

He has no history of dirty play.
After the fined was levied against him the Patriots' defensive tackle stated that he's not one to hand out cheap shots.

"I'm far from a dirty player," Wilfork told the NFL Network. "If you know me as a person, you'd understand that. If you don't know me, don't judge me. If you don't know me, get to know me."

But this is not the first time Wilfork has been accused of playing dirty against the Bills. In a Bills-Patriots game in Buffalo on Oct. 3, 2004, Wilfork was accused by former Bills offensive linemen Jonas Jennings and Chris Villarrial of taking cheap shots at them during the game.

The incident happened behind the play. Following a six-yard completion from Drew Bledsoe to Eric Moulds, Jennings who was blocking Richard Seymour on the play was blindsided by Wilfork who initiated a helmet-to-helmet hit on the Buffalo tackle.

The hit cracked Jennings helmet near his jaw and Jennings was knocked out cold sustaining a concussion.

"It was almost like it was premeditated, like they set me up," Jennings told the Associated Press at the time.

Jennings had exchanged words with Wilfork earlier in that game when he saw the defensive tackle kick Villarrial in the ribs when he was on the ground following a first quarter field goal by Rian Lindell.

"It was a dirty thing to do," Villarrial told the AP a few days after the game. "Let's be obvious, anybody that's down on the ground, you don't kick them."

Losman, who was a rookie with the Bills that season, said he remembered the incident.
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5321
Well, every player can be accussed of something by someone at some point.
Thats your defense of his actions? :11:
Didn't a Steeler cheap shot Palmer? Shut up.

I bet you can find a player in the league that could say something was dirty about another particular player in the league.
...and Oranthal was found not guilty.
 
Get a grip, man. Wilfork apologized for the incident, has repeatedly stated that he didnt do it on purpose, and has even tried to call Losman to apologize.

More Pats hating BS then ever.
What exactly did you expect him to say? He would have said that no matter his intent was. And if Im in that spot - the only way I would ever wind up and throw my elbow into your kneee like he did... is intentionally. Unless, maybe, cerebal palsy was ivolved.
most guys wouldnt call. Wilfork isnt a bad dude.
The only thing you know is what he told you.And he already lied about his intent.
thanks Hitchcock. we'll let you know when CSI is looking for anothe lead investigator. Your sig is lame.

 
If he would have just dove/fallen into Losman I wouldn't have a problem with it. It is the extended elbow that makes it a cheap shot IMO.

 
Wilfork's a pretty clean cut guy.

He has no history of dirty play.
After the fined was levied against him the Patriots' defensive tackle stated that he's not one to hand out cheap shots.

"I'm far from a dirty player," Wilfork told the NFL Network. "If you know me as a person, you'd understand that. If you don't know me, don't judge me. If you don't know me, get to know me."

But this is not the first time Wilfork has been accused of playing dirty against the Bills. In a Bills-Patriots game in Buffalo on Oct. 3, 2004, Wilfork was accused by former Bills offensive linemen Jonas Jennings and Chris Villarrial of taking cheap shots at them during the game.

The incident happened behind the play. Following a six-yard completion from Drew Bledsoe to Eric Moulds, Jennings who was blocking Richard Seymour on the play was blindsided by Wilfork who initiated a helmet-to-helmet hit on the Buffalo tackle.

The hit cracked Jennings helmet near his jaw and Jennings was knocked out cold sustaining a concussion.

"It was almost like it was premeditated, like they set me up," Jennings told the Associated Press at the time.

Jennings had exchanged words with Wilfork earlier in that game when he saw the defensive tackle kick Villarrial in the ribs when he was on the ground following a first quarter field goal by Rian Lindell.

"It was a dirty thing to do," Villarrial told the AP a few days after the game. "Let's be obvious, anybody that's down on the ground, you don't kick them."

Losman, who was a rookie with the Bills that season, said he remembered the incident.
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5321
Well, every player can be accussed of something by someone at some point.
Thats your defense of his actions? :11:
Didn't a Steeler cheap shot Palmer? Shut up.

I bet you can find a player in the league that could say something was dirty about another particular player in the league.
...and Oranthal was found not guilty.
What's your point, Marcia Clark?
 
Wilfork's a pretty clean cut guy.

He has no history of dirty play.
After the fined was levied against him the Patriots' defensive tackle stated that he's not one to hand out cheap shots.

"I'm far from a dirty player," Wilfork told the NFL Network. "If you know me as a person, you'd understand that. If you don't know me, don't judge me. If you don't know me, get to know me."

But this is not the first time Wilfork has been accused of playing dirty against the Bills. In a Bills-Patriots game in Buffalo on Oct. 3, 2004, Wilfork was accused by former Bills offensive linemen Jonas Jennings and Chris Villarrial of taking cheap shots at them during the game.

The incident happened behind the play. Following a six-yard completion from Drew Bledsoe to Eric Moulds, Jennings who was blocking Richard Seymour on the play was blindsided by Wilfork who initiated a helmet-to-helmet hit on the Buffalo tackle.

The hit cracked Jennings helmet near his jaw and Jennings was knocked out cold sustaining a concussion.

"It was almost like it was premeditated, like they set me up," Jennings told the Associated Press at the time.

Jennings had exchanged words with Wilfork earlier in that game when he saw the defensive tackle kick Villarrial in the ribs when he was on the ground following a first quarter field goal by Rian Lindell.

"It was a dirty thing to do," Villarrial told the AP a few days after the game. "Let's be obvious, anybody that's down on the ground, you don't kick them."

Losman, who was a rookie with the Bills that season, said he remembered the incident.
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=5321
Well, every player can be accussed of something by someone at some point.
Thats your defense of his actions? :11:
Didn't a Steeler cheap shot Palmer? Shut up.

I bet you can find a player in the league that could say something was dirty about another particular player in the league.
...and Oranthal was found not guilty.
What's your point, Marcia Clark?
He's says he didn't do it on purpose, but the tape CLEARLY shows he did, I'll go with the visual evidence
 
Get a grip, man. Wilfork apologized for the incident, has repeatedly stated that he didnt do it on purpose, and has even tried to call Losman to apologize.

More Pats hating BS then ever.
What exactly did you expect him to say? He would have said that no matter his intent was. And if Im in that spot - the only way I would ever wind up and throw my elbow into your kneee like he did... is intentionally. Unless, maybe, cerebal palsy was ivolved.
most guys wouldnt call. Wilfork isnt a bad dude.
The only thing you know is what he told you.And he already lied about his intent.
thanks Hitchcock. we'll let you know when CSI is looking for anothe lead investigator. Your sig is lame.
Make sure you read post #34 above. And maybe you can find some common sense (especiallyabout Wilforks actions) along the way
 
Get a grip, man. Wilfork apologized for the incident, has repeatedly stated that he didnt do it on purpose, and has even tried to call Losman to apologize.

More Pats hating BS then ever.
What exactly did you expect him to say? He would have said that no matter his intent was. And if Im in that spot - the only way I would ever wind up and throw my elbow into your kneee like he did... is intentionally. Unless, maybe, cerebal palsy was ivolved.
most guys wouldnt call. Wilfork isnt a bad dude.
The only thing you know is what he told you.And he already lied about his intent.
thanks Hitchcock. we'll let you know when CSI is looking for anothe lead investigator.

Your sig is lame.
Make sure you read post #34 above. And maybe you can find some common sense (especiallyabout Wilforks actions) along the way
this is 3rd or 4th hand info. Am i really supposed to believe one thing or another? Wilfork apologized, he was fined, end of story. You gotta stop living in the past bro.
 
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If he was a player on any other team he probably gets suspended and a bigger fine. He went out of his way to hit that knee.

And when you have players getting fined almost that amount for on the field celebrations :thumbdown:

 
Link To article

Wilfork hit with $12,500 fine by NFL

He insists play wasn't dirty

By Christopher L. Gasper, Globe Staff | September 28, 2007

FOXBOROUGH - Patriots nose tackle Vince Wilfork is good at shedding blockers. Now he's trying to shed the notion that his hit last Sunday on Buffalo Bills quarterback J.P. Losman, a blow that resulted in a $12,500 fine yesterday from the NFL, was a dirty play.

A flailing Wilfork struck Losman square on the left knee with his right elbow on Buffalo's first offensive snap, a 4-yard completion to Marshawn Lynch. Wilfork received a 15-yard penalty for roughing the passer and Losman had to leave the game at the conclusion of the series with a sprained knee.
If you watch the video, he wasn't "flailing". At the last second, instead of instinctively extending his arm downward to break his fall, he extended his elbow towards Losman's knee which he was looking directly at. That was intentional.

 
Pretty clearly intentional. It's a shame that players have to behave like this. Fines should be a % of salary.

 
Anyone defending that hit as unintentional is being blatantly dishonest. It was as obvious and as dirty as it gets.

It's sickening that the NFL let's this kind of thing go while dishing out similar punishment to guys like TO for using the ball as a prop.

 
Anyone defending that hit as unintentional is being blatantly dishonest.
Months like these make me wish I had gone into psychology instead of engineering.It is fascinating to me to read posts from Patriot fans on the various topics that have emerged in September.Is there any behavior that will not be defended by Patriot fans?Just by making these points, I of course am a hater. There is no middle ground. Objectivity is not possible for fans of other teams.
 
You guys can argue whether it was intentional or not all day and will never reach a consensus. But the NFL DID think it was intentional, or else they would not have levied a fine. And since they did think it was intentional, that small of a fine is ridiculous. The fine should either be $0 or much larger than it is.

 
The New England Patriots' head coach Bill Belichick is engaged in a calculated pattern of cheating, despite being specifically warned not to, publicly states that it's a difference of opinion in "rules interpretation", and he gets fined $500k (less than 10% of a year's salary for him) and is not suspended.

The New England Patriots' DL Vince Wilfork goes in low, throws his elbow out, and takes out an opposing QB in his division, insists that he didn't do it on purpose, and is fined $12,500 and is not suspended.

Interesting.

 

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