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Will Facebook eventually die the way Myspace did? (1 Viewer)

There's nothing twitter can do that facebook can't. But whatever, some people like twitter.
If I follow, say, Jay Glazer for breaking NFL news (which I do), I'll see his tweets instantly as I always have Twitter open in one tab. *IF* he even posted that same information simultaneously on his Facebook page, he would have had to previously accepted you as a friend for you to see it, and you'd have to get some kind of notice that he just posted something.
You can follow celebrities on Facebook without having them accept a friend request if they're set up for it. Jay Glazer, specifically, isn't. But that's on him.
I'm stunned you aren't a Twitter junkie with your eclectic interests. You'd love it if you gave it some effort.

 
Twitter is nothing more than a marketing platform at this point.
huh?
Almost everyone I know on twitter uses it for business purposes/networking. Either B2B marketing, or B2C marketing.I don't know anyone who uses it for personal communications.
I don't go on Twitter much, but I've never seen anyone use it for stupid business stuff (apart from explicit business accounts, like restaurants).

A few people use Facebook for that.

Everyone uses LinkedIn for that. I don't ever go on LinkedIn EVER and don't have an account there, but I still get emails from LinkedIn telling me to sign up so that people can spam me with business/marketing/networking crap. I don't know why anyone uses LinkedIn. It really should just die.

Anyway, facebook isn't going to die. Twitter won't die either, although I have no idea why it won't. There's nothing twitter can do that facebook can't. But whatever, some people like twitter.

Meanwhile, a few people have told me that Instagram is the new facebook. I don't know what Instagram can do that facebook can't, but some people don't like facebook, so they use twitter or Instagram instead . . .
What about if someone starts up a social networking site with...call me crazy...privacy and less profit motive?

 
Twitter is nothing more than a marketing platform at this point.
You couldn't be more wrong. I follow beat writers of my favorite teams, some NFL and NHL national writers, a few comedians, Kate Upton, and that's it. If someone is boring or annoying "unfollow". If you're a hardcore sports fan and don't enjoy using twitter you're probably not doing it right or not really giving it a chance. With all that being said I wish I could quit it cause it's more addicting than the FFA.

 
I'm not on Twitter, but I do love it. It gives an unfiltered voice to all the idiot athlete/celebrities so they can prove me correct with their idiocy.

 
Facebook won't die anytime soon. Even if the younger generation is leaving it, the older generation has grown roots in it. I love FB. I have no reason to leave as all my friends love it too. And since we're the generation with money and good jobs, advertisers love us on Facebook.
yep, the 30+ crowd is stuck on FB...it's easy and very simple for my older family members to share photos, etc. I just wish I could make my posts private so they don't go on that stupid feed and FOF can see them.
:no: I get on Facebook a few times a year - once at my birthday to thank everyone for reminding me I am a year older, and a few other times during the year. Now, my wife uses it a lot - and I basically look at it like one big gossip place for women to hang out in.
you must have a miserable social life :shrug:
Being on FB = An active social life? I don't get it.

 
I had a myspace account but never used it. Never even fixed up my home page. Still only had one friend or whatever its called. That guy you automatically get when you sign up.

Have a FB account I look at maybe once a day. Never posted a status update. Not a big user by any means.

Don't understand the fascination with twitter at all. Not signed up. Instant news? I don't need it. Don't really care. I'll find out about anything important soon enough.

 
HughHoney said:
Sinn Fein said:
Twitter is nothing more than a marketing platform at this point.
You couldn't be more wrong. I follow beat writers of my favorite teams, some NFL and NHL national writers, a few comedians, Kate Upton, and that's it. If someone is boring or annoying "unfollow". If you're a hardcore sports fan and don't enjoy using twitter you're probably not doing it right or not really giving it a chance. With all that being said I wish I could quit it cause it's more addicting than the FFA.
This actually proves my point. Reporters, Comedians, Reporters, etc. are not using twitter as a means to enhance a social relationship - they are using it as a platform to market themselves.

For reporters, its simply a means to drive more people to their web content which can be monetized. They don't care about you personally - they just want to get enough clicks to justify their salary and/or show an increased worth to their employer when they get X numbers of followers. So every so often their tweets will include a link to a larger story, which a percentage of followers will click on...

Celebrities are in the same boat - its all about selling their image of being popular.

I never said twitter was useless - but I would not call it a social media platform - which I consider a platform to form/enhance personal relationships. I don't know anyone who uses twitter to communicate with friends and/or family.

Also Marketing <> Sales. A marketing platform does not need to include a direct sales pitch - and good marketing is far more subtle.

 
The real value in LinkedIn is in the groups. We have a communications group for our trade association where we can post questions and have discussions about common challenges that we all face. I've found that very helpful. We are also in the process of creating a private LinkedIn group for the most frequent users of our ebusiness functions so that they can ask questions and share best practices with each other.

Its not the fault of the tool that most people are morons and don't think about how to use it.

 
HughHoney said:
Sinn Fein said:
Twitter is nothing more than a marketing platform at this point.
You couldn't be more wrong. I follow beat writers of my favorite teams, some NFL and NHL national writers, a few comedians, Kate Upton, and that's it. If someone is boring or annoying "unfollow". If you're a hardcore sports fan and don't enjoy using twitter you're probably not doing it right or not really giving it a chance. With all that being said I wish I could quit it cause it's more addicting than the FFA.
This actually proves my point. Reporters, Comedians, Reporters, etc. are not using twitter as a means to enhance a social relationship - they are using it as a platform to market themselves.

For reporters, its simply a means to drive more people to their web content which can be monetized. They don't care about you personally - they just want to get enough clicks to justify their salary and/or show an increased worth to their employer when they get X numbers of followers. So every so often their tweets will include a link to a larger story, which a percentage of followers will click on...

Celebrities are in the same boat - its all about selling their image of being popular.

I never said twitter was useless - but I would not call it a social media platform - which I consider a platform to form/enhance personal relationships. I don't know anyone who uses twitter to communicate with friends and/or family.

Also Marketing <> Sales. A marketing platform does not need to include a direct sales pitch - and good marketing is far more subtle.
I don't mean this an insult, but I think you just aren't the right age range to fully know how people are using Twitter. Younger people treat it as like a giant public instant messenger/forum.

How often do you use Twitter? If you haven't used it much, I'm not sure how you can understand how it actually functions.

 
WhatDoIKnow said:
Major said:
Sinn Fein said:
Facebook won't die anytime soon. Even if the younger generation is leaving it, the older generation has grown roots in it. I love FB. I have no reason to leave as all my friends love it too. And since we're the generation with money and good jobs, advertisers love us on Facebook.
yep, the 30+ crowd is stuck on FB...it's easy and very simple for my older family members to share photos, etc. I just wish I could make my posts private so they don't go on that stupid feed and FOF can see them.
:no: I get on Facebook a few times a year - once at my birthday to thank everyone for reminding me I am a year older, and a few other times during the year. Now, my wife uses it a lot - and I basically look at it like one big gossip place for women to hang out in.
you must have a miserable social life :shrug:
Being on FB = An active social life? I don't get it.
events, women, pics, communication? their chat function is second to none

 
HughHoney said:
Sinn Fein said:
Twitter is nothing more than a marketing platform at this point.
You couldn't be more wrong. I follow beat writers of my favorite teams, some NFL and NHL national writers, a few comedians, Kate Upton, and that's it. If someone is boring or annoying "unfollow". If you're a hardcore sports fan and don't enjoy using twitter you're probably not doing it right or not really giving it a chance. With all that being said I wish I could quit it cause it's more addicting than the FFA.
This actually proves my point. Reporters, Comedians, Reporters, etc. are not using twitter as a means to enhance a social relationship - they are using it as a platform to market themselves.

For reporters, its simply a means to drive more people to their web content which can be monetized. They don't care about you personally - they just want to get enough clicks to justify their salary and/or show an increased worth to their employer when they get X numbers of followers. So every so often their tweets will include a link to a larger story, which a percentage of followers will click on...

Celebrities are in the same boat - its all about selling their image of being popular.

I never said twitter was useless - but I would not call it a social media platform - which I consider a platform to form/enhance personal relationships. I don't know anyone who uses twitter to communicate with friends and/or family.

Also Marketing <> Sales. A marketing platform does not need to include a direct sales pitch - and good marketing is far more subtle.
I don't mean this an insult, but I think you just aren't the right age range to fully know how people are using Twitter. Younger people treat it as like a giant public instant messenger/forum.

How often do you use Twitter? If you haven't used it much, I'm not sure how you can understand how it actually functions.
:shrug: maybe

I have two accounts, follow a few dozen people. I generally have tweetdeck open in the background. None of my family/friends use twitter to communicate outside of work.

 
WhatDoIKnow said:
Major said:
Sinn Fein said:
Facebook won't die anytime soon. Even if the younger generation is leaving it, the older generation has grown roots in it. I love FB. I have no reason to leave as all my friends love it too. And since we're the generation with money and good jobs, advertisers love us on Facebook.
yep, the 30+ crowd is stuck on FB...it's easy and very simple for my older family members to share photos, etc. I just wish I could make my posts private so they don't go on that stupid feed and FOF can see them.
:no: I get on Facebook a few times a year - once at my birthday to thank everyone for reminding me I am a year older, and a few other times during the year. Now, my wife uses it a lot - and I basically look at it like one big gossip place for women to hang out in.
you must have a miserable social life :shrug:
Being on FB = An active social life? I don't get it.
events, women, pics, communication? their chat function is second to none
That's not a "social" life. That's a "social media" life. When I think of "social life", I think of actually going out with friends or to events. And I don't feel the need to update my status when doing so.

 
WhatDoIKnow said:
Major said:
Sinn Fein said:
Facebook won't die anytime soon. Even if the younger generation is leaving it, the older generation has grown roots in it. I love FB. I have no reason to leave as all my friends love it too. And since we're the generation with money and good jobs, advertisers love us on Facebook.
yep, the 30+ crowd is stuck on FB...it's easy and very simple for my older family members to share photos, etc. I just wish I could make my posts private so they don't go on that stupid feed and FOF can see them.
:no: I get on Facebook a few times a year - once at my birthday to thank everyone for reminding me I am a year older, and a few other times during the year. Now, my wife uses it a lot - and I basically look at it like one big gossip place for women to hang out in.
you must have a miserable social life :shrug:
Being on FB = An active social life? I don't get it.
events, women, pics, communication? their chat function is second to none
That's not a "social" life. That's a "social media" life. When I think of "social life", I think of actually going out with friends or to events. And I don't feel the need to update my status when doing so.
yes, it's part of your social life and a great a mode of communication. I wouldn't do half of the cool #### I do if it wasn't for FB Events/Invites. Do you still use Evite or something?

I don't give a f about updating statuses or peoples kids, I just use it as a tool to connect with women, friends or potential biz.

 
WhatDoIKnow said:
Major said:
Sinn Fein said:
Facebook won't die anytime soon. Even if the younger generation is leaving it, the older generation has grown roots in it. I love FB. I have no reason to leave as all my friends love it too. And since we're the generation with money and good jobs, advertisers love us on Facebook.
yep, the 30+ crowd is stuck on FB...it's easy and very simple for my older family members to share photos, etc. I just wish I could make my posts private so they don't go on that stupid feed and FOF can see them.
:no: I get on Facebook a few times a year - once at my birthday to thank everyone for reminding me I am a year older, and a few other times during the year. Now, my wife uses it a lot - and I basically look at it like one big gossip place for women to hang out in.
you must have a miserable social life :shrug:
Being on FB = An active social life? I don't get it.
events, women, pics, communication? their chat function is second to none
That's not a "social" life. That's a "social media" life. When I think of "social life", I think of actually going out with friends or to events. And I don't feel the need to update my status when doing so.
yes, it's part of your social life and a great a mode of communication. I wouldn't do half of the cool #### I do if it wasn't for FB Events/Invites. Do you still use Evite or something?

I don't give a f about updating statuses or peoples kids, I just use it as a tool to connect with women, friends or potential biz.
But you assumed above, that if someone does not use FB regularly that they must have a miserable social life. That is the part I don't get.

 
WhatDoIKnow said:
Major said:
Sinn Fein said:
Facebook won't die anytime soon. Even if the younger generation is leaving it, the older generation has grown roots in it. I love FB. I have no reason to leave as all my friends love it too. And since we're the generation with money and good jobs, advertisers love us on Facebook.
yep, the 30+ crowd is stuck on FB...it's easy and very simple for my older family members to share photos, etc. I just wish I could make my posts private so they don't go on that stupid feed and FOF can see them.
:no: I get on Facebook a few times a year - once at my birthday to thank everyone for reminding me I am a year older, and a few other times during the year. Now, my wife uses it a lot - and I basically look at it like one big gossip place for women to hang out in.
you must have a miserable social life :shrug:
Being on FB = An active social life? I don't get it.
events, women, pics, communication? their chat function is second to none
That's not a "social" life. That's a "social media" life. When I think of "social life", I think of actually going out with friends or to events. And I don't feel the need to update my status when doing so.
If you attend an event but don't update your status were you really there????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 
WhatDoIKnow said:
Major said:
Sinn Fein said:
Facebook won't die anytime soon. Even if the younger generation is leaving it, the older generation has grown roots in it. I love FB. I have no reason to leave as all my friends love it too. And since we're the generation with money and good jobs, advertisers love us on Facebook.
yep, the 30+ crowd is stuck on FB...it's easy and very simple for my older family members to share photos, etc. I just wish I could make my posts private so they don't go on that stupid feed and FOF can see them.
:no: I get on Facebook a few times a year - once at my birthday to thank everyone for reminding me I am a year older, and a few other times during the year. Now, my wife uses it a lot - and I basically look at it like one big gossip place for women to hang out in.
you must have a miserable social life :shrug:
Being on FB = An active social life? I don't get it.
events, women, pics, communication? their chat function is second to none
That's not a "social" life. That's a "social media" life. When I think of "social life", I think of actually going out with friends or to events. And I don't feel the need to update my status when doing so.
yes, it's part of your social life and a great a mode of communication. I wouldn't do half of the cool #### I do if it wasn't for FB Events/Invites. Do you still use Evite or something?

I don't give a f about updating statuses or peoples kids, I just use it as a tool to connect with women, friends or potential biz.
But you assumed above, that if someone does not use FB regularly that they must have a miserable social life. That is the part I don't get.
I never assumed that...i just said you'd miss out on a lot. If you're some stress case accounting geek, middle aged with kids and racist, maybe not :shrug:

 
The Facebook killer - Ello.

"Your social network is owned by advertisers," it reads. "Every post you share, every friend you make and every link you follow is tracked, recorded and converted into data. Advertisers buy your data so they can show you more ads. You are the product that's bought and sold."

Users who click "I Disagree" are re-directed to Facebook.
 
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I don't think so. Myspace was a headache to maneuver. I never used it soon after I signed up. FB is very user friendly and there will always be a lot of people using it, unlike Myspace where I never got a feeling it was very popular for long. I like Twitter too.

 
The Facebook killer - Ello.

"Your social network is owned by advertisers," it reads. "Every post you share, every friend you make and every link you follow is tracked, recorded and converted into data. Advertisers buy your data so they can show you more ads. You are the product that's bought and sold."

Users who click "I Disagree" are re-directed to Facebook.
It will not get mindshare or usage beyond a small crowd being that ugly. Sorry, ugly is NOT a feature. And being "anti-fb" is not a feature either. Unfortunately, I think way too many people are just really ignorant about they are the product. That said, people are also getting to use a service for free in exchange. Some people don't agree the exchange is actually worthwhile. I think it is what you make of it.

 
The Facebook killer - Ello.

"Your social network is owned by advertisers," it reads. "Every post you share, every friend you make and every link you follow is tracked, recorded and converted into data. Advertisers buy your data so they can show you more ads. You are the product that's bought and sold."

Users who click "I Disagree" are re-directed to Facebook.
It will not get mindshare or usage beyond a small crowd being that ugly. Sorry, ugly is NOT a feature. And being "anti-fb" is not a feature either. Unfortunately, I think way too many people are just really ignorant about they are the product. That said, people are also getting to use a service for free in exchange. Some people don't agree the exchange is actually worthwhile. I think it is what you make of it.
Old people like myself don't think it's too ugly.

 
posted: 10/11/2014 7:33 AM

Report: Teens are officially over Facebook

A pretty dramatic new report out from Piper Jaffray -- an investment bank with a sizable research arm -- rules that the kids are over Facebook once and for all, having fled Mark Zuckerberg's parent-flooded shores for the more forgiving embraces of Twitter and Instagram.

By Caitlin Dewey

The Washington Post

Since children are the future, and no one over 21 really knows what they find "cool," researchers have devoted many, many surveys to the exact quantification of what it is #teens do online.

In May 2013, they were fleeing Facebook's "drama." A year later, they flocked back to the network like lil' lost sheep.

Now, a pretty dramatic new report out from Piper Jaffray -- an investment bank with a sizable research arm -- rules that the kids are over Facebook once and for all, having fled Mark Zuckerberg's parent-flooded shores for the more forgiving embraces of Twitter and Instagram. Between fall 2014 and spring 2014, when Piper Jaffray last conducted this survey, Facebook use among teenagers aged 13 to 19 plummeted from 72 percent to 45 percent. In other words, less than half of the teenagers surveyed said "yes" when asked if they use Facebook. (A note: There's no spring data available for the "no networks" option, which is why that spot is blank.)

Surveys of this type are, of course, a dime a dozen, and teen whims are as volatile as Twitter's trending hashtags. That said, Piper Jaffray's research is pretty thorough: It surveyed a national group of 7,200 students and accounted for variables like gender and household income.

Among the survey's other findings: Kids love Apple products above any other consumer tech brand, though only a sliver -- 16 percent -- were interested in the iWatch. They overwhelmingly predicted that, by 2019, they'd watch all their movies on Netflix. They're cooling on Pandora radio, which has seen a host of streaming apps and other competitors crop up in the past five years.

Alas, none of this helps explain why teens like the things they do, a question as old and impenetrable as time. Both research and anecdote would suggest, of course, that it has something to do with the presence of adults on the site, as well as the typically high-school plagues of oversharing and infighting. The recent rise of anonymous social apps -- things like Whisper and Yik Yak, which is dominated by college students -- would also seem to suggest a youthful wish to escape the confines and responsibilities of a fixed online identity. (Facebook certainly seems to worry that's the case: On Tuesday The New York Times reported that the website was working on an anonymous, stand-alone messaging app of its own.)

That should perhaps worry parents, of both the helicopter and cool-Dad variety: You can't really interact with -- or "check up on" -- your kids on Whisper the way you do on ye olde FB. (Whisper users don't have friends and go on under pseudonymous usernames, which, arguably, is the app's main draw.)

Facebook needn't panic, though. Even if its namesake platform is now totally passe, the kids still love Instagram -- so Zuck wins, either way.
 
The falling out of FB amongst the youth has been happening for awhile. Snapchat, Kik, Twitter and Instagram are much more popular. When you mention FB to a kid, they cringe.

 
The falling out of FB amongst the youth has been happening for awhile. Snapchat, Kik, Twitter and Instagram are much more popular. When you mention FB to a kid, they cringe.
Once the parents discovered it, kids started fleeing.
That's part of it. Plus there are so many more options out there now. Kids are becoming more and more tech savy. It really only happened on a grand scale in the last 4-5 years. Before that, most kids were using FB predominately and hadn't yet latched on to Twitter, etc. Teens now are really the first wave of kids to have completely come of age in the smart phone world and in a social media, app rich world.
 
Mobile Facebook stinks now. They changed the website around a lot over the past year or so and I don't use it much.

 
Standing by my prediction that Facebook is here to stay for many years. Though I see Snapchat as it's true competition now and not Twitter. Snapchat = pure social interaction and sharing, without the permanency and advertising intrusion (yet).

The more i dive into Twitter as a marketer, I see it relating more closely to LinkedIn than FB. This space changes so quickly though, as does the whim of the under 21's, so nearly impossible to predict with anything even resembling certainty

 
The young kids may be fleeing (they aren't from what I can tell) but they have the MILF/mom and dad and grandpa market now. They're fine.

 
The young kids may be fleeing (they aren't from what I can tell) but they have the MILF/mom and dad and grandpa market now. They're fine.
Yeah, I think FB is the AOL of social media at this point.

I'm 31 and have noticed over the past few years that pretty much no one my age uses it FB anymore outside of birthdays, weddings, and baby pictures. Of course that happens as people get older, but any of my friends not married or posting baby pics are definitely not using Facebook as their social media outlet. Maybe for about >10% of all activity. It's all instagram/snapchat now, FB is dead to that demographic. Feel like that is not too far off the mark for most people.

 
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The young kids may be fleeing (they aren't from what I can tell) but they have the MILF/mom and dad and grandpa market now. They're fine.
Yeah, I think FB is the AOL of social media at this point.

I'm 31 and have noticed over the past few years that pretty much no one my age uses it FB anymore outside of birthdays, weddings, and baby pictures. Of course that happens as people get older, but any of my friends not married or posting baby pics are definitely not using Facebook as their social media outlet. Maybe for about >10% of all activity. It's all instagram/snapchat now, FB is dead to that demographic. Feel like that is not too far off the mark for most people.
I have a totally different experience. Just about every person I know uses FB, and they use it a lot.

 
What are people doing with snapchat that makes it important? I thought that was just an app for sexting?

 
What are people doing with snapchat that makes it important? I thought that was just an app for sexting?
I'd assume that's pretty much it. Adults having affairs and teens/pre-teens with parents that like to snoop.

I'm not sure what the benefit would be for anybody else.

 
The young kids may be fleeing (they aren't from what I can tell) but they have the MILF/mom and dad and grandpa market now. They're fine.
Yeah, I think FB is the AOL of social media at this point.

I'm 31 and have noticed over the past few years that pretty much no one my age uses it FB anymore outside of birthdays, weddings, and baby pictures. Of course that happens as people get older, but any of my friends not married or posting baby pics are definitely not using Facebook as their social media outlet. Maybe for about >10% of all activity. It's all instagram/snapchat now, FB is dead to that demographic. Feel like that is not too far off the mark for most people.
instagram I get... snapchat I don't

I can already text pictures with mms messaging.. and anyone with basic tech savvy can screen shot your snapchat making it not the end all be all for dong shots.

 
The young kids may be fleeing (they aren't from what I can tell) but they have the MILF/mom and dad and grandpa market now. They're fine.
Yeah, I think FB is the AOL of social media at this point.

I'm 31 and have noticed over the past few years that pretty much no one my age uses it FB anymore outside of birthdays, weddings, and baby pictures. Of course that happens as people get older, but any of my friends not married or posting baby pics are definitely not using Facebook as their social media outlet. Maybe for about >10% of all activity. It's all instagram/snapchat now, FB is dead to that demographic. Feel like that is not too far off the mark for most people.
instagram I get... snapchat I don't

I can already text pictures with mms messaging.. and anyone with basic tech savvy can screen shot your snapchat making it not the end all be all for dong shots.
To be honest, I'd adapted neither. I used to have instagram, and deleted my account. I'm good not cycling through people's non-stop posting of selfies and pictures of cats. I remember when I had it cycling through it, and thinking to myself, "Yeah...meh, wish I had those last 5-10 minutes back." I'm with you on snapchat, feels like it's designed for rooster picks and boob shots, although it's grown way beyond that.

Had this discussion with friends of mine somewhat recently, and that's what I was told. I countered with that makes it seem like people have the attention span of gnats, and got the "OK old man!" snipes. Don't disagree at all, but I guess non-adaption is my graceful and slow stepback off the stage of social media, just doesn't do it for me anymore. Down to FB now, and weening slowly off of that with the lack of activity I see on it vs. a year or two ago.

Just how I feel, though.

 
Leaving Facebook for Instagram doesn't really matter to Facebook, they've already bought it.
Speaking of FB purchases, I think the $19 Billion they spent on What'sApp is a sign that good messaging really eliminates the need for social media.

Basic facebooking is really too broad for most purposes. It's to share pics of the kids and business. The list of things you want to share with 1000+ people is pretty small.

What people really want are effective ways to communicate with smaller, specific groups of people. The plethora of messaging apps are all better suited for that, which is why FB owns two of the biggest.

 
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I finally broke down and signed up about a week ago...whereas before I avoided it like the plague. So it is gonna fail and fail soon. I say this not to be funny but, from experience. Things I buy soon disappear from store shelves, restaurants I like go out of business, etc,etc.

 
Reading this topic basically confirms what I ready knew...I joined too late. I could be proactive and join snapshot, but I just heard about it literally for the first time 5 minutes ago.

 

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