r0llin_game
Footballguy
He can't seem to find a QB of his liking to run that offense, the team looks terrible, but his contract expires after this season. Discuss here.
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Will John Fox be fired tomorrow? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter r0llin_game
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Slevin Kelevra
Footballguy
why tomorrow and not tuesday ?
Louisville Slugger
Footballguy
At least Fox has proven he can get it done when he has some talent around him.
On the other hand watching the Sunday night game I can't understand why Mike Singletary still has a job
On the other hand watching the Sunday night game I can't understand why Mike Singletary still has a job
spider321
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
Pnishthm
Footballguy
Fox does have some talent around him...he just refuses to give him the ball more than 10 times a game.
jafo
Out of Mind
Why Marvin Lewis?
solorca
Footballguy
One of the best minds in the game? Wow. Fox has had a few good seasons, but he is certainly not at that level. I've been watching him get destroyed by any little krinkle that the opposing team puts in, for years. His in game adjustment abilities are laughable.
r0llin_game
Footballguy
If their owner is too cheap, what would it matter if Fox gets canned? Not like he'll be retained so it really won't cost them anything except what's owed for their next 11 games.
Nightly Mistake
Footballguy
Spite.
solorca
Footballguy
If someone is fired, someone else has to be hired...unless they have one of the coordinators handle their side as well as the head coach duties.Richardson wasn't cheap in the past, now he just wants to win this lockout war. He went from beloved by Panthers fans to hated in a matter of a few months. He has made a committed effort to completely ruin the team this season, and it's sickening.
He's a really bad HC.
Nightly Mistake
Footballguy
What did he do or fail to do in that "few months" that made the difference between this being a ruined team and one that played . . . respectably? Well? Excellently? I'm not really sure what you're saying other than to somehow link his ideology in this labor dispute with poor team performance.
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I'll trade our coach for Fox yesterday. The guy knows football. He's not the GM and he can't play QB and WR.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
Nobody wants to replace a coach with "a guy." They'll probably want a big name, or a bright college coach. Those won't be available until the end of the year. Gruden and Cowher will wait to field the most lucrative offers (if they're coming back), so there's no reason to make a move now. The Panthers are hopeless, anyway, so better just to ride it out and try again next year (or whenever they play again).
BoerumHill
Footballguy
Lost to the Browns AND the Bucs?Seriously, though, today was really really bad:
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
while carolina might be the worst team in the league, I'm not sure how that all falls on fox, you need SOME kind of roster to be competitive.
maybe hurney should fire himself.
maybe hurney should fire himself.
jafo
Out of Mind
Teams are supposed to punt on 3rd down??Palmer has blown the last two games. Have you even watched them?
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Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
haha....I think the point is why risk a turnover in your own territory trying to pick up 13 yds on a pass play.they could runthe ball, wind the clock down, then punt it over, forcing tb to drive the length of the field with 2 min on the clock and no timeouts.I don't ever like those kind of plays --- that's like the dallas thing against the 'skins in week 1 where they threw the game away on that stupid fumble.
Pnishthm
Footballguy
You also need to give the ball more than 10 times a game to the few playmakers you have on your roster...
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
ok, we're going to replace him with you.they currently have 2 playmakers on that team.
first drive:
8 plays - 8 runs
2nd drive:
clausen fumbles
run (no gain)
3-11 --- yes, they pass
I'm not sure how easy you think it is to run the ball when the other team fully expects you to run every play.
3rd drive:
penalty
1-15 run (2 yds)
2-13 sack
3-19 yes, pass....to D WILLIAMS (2 yds)
4th drive (down 17-3 to finish the 1st quarter)
run
pass (20 yds on PI)
pass
sack
3-16 PASS!
5th drive:
penalty
1-20 run (-1 yd)
2-21 clausen fumbles
3-32 run
6th drive:
run (no gain)
penalty
2-18 run (no gain)
3-18 pass to D WILLIAMS
7th drive is 3 and out and they roll into the 2nd half down 17-3
which playmakers should be getting fed the ball --- jeff king or david gettis?
Pnishthm
Footballguy
I have another one for you... down 10 to Tampa with about 7 minutes left and 1st and goal from the 4 (Steve Smith and D. Williams standing next to Fox waiting to get in)1st down- Fade to D. Rosario
2nd down- Pitch outside to J. Goodson
3rd down- Inside handoff to J. Goodson
4th down- Inside handoff to J. Stewart
omally
Footballguy
I don't hate Richardson. However, I can understand Fox not being happy with Richardson, since Jerry pretty much set him up in a impossible situation this year to win games, plus didn't extend his contract. Fox won't have a problem finding another job if he is fired, which he probably will be.
Adam Schefter reported yesterday @ 10:31am via twitter, "At least two teams have called Carolina about the availability of RB DeAngelo Williams. Panthers told each one, They're not trading him."
Texican
Footballguy
pantherclub
Footballguy
Of course not, we trade our 2nd round pick for a 5'10 170lb division 2 qb that cannot catch the ball but there is no way in Hades we would try and acquire more draft picks to build for the future. It goes against everything the Panthers stand for. They like to keep things simple and keep as few picks as humanly possible.Seriously though, its inconceivable to me that if I were a NFL GM I would mimic exactly what Pittsburgh and New England do in the draft. Accomulate as many picks as possible and do extreme research to get your bang for your buck.
kupcho1
Footballguy
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ROBOPUNTER
Footballguy
You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
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pantherclub
Footballguy
That may be a little over the top but I dont think he is a bad coach at all. It is just time for him to go somewhere else. He is too stubborn, too loyal and his hiring of Jeff Davidson is beyond baffling. Plus his condescending attitude when giving interviews has turned a large part of the fanbase off. He refuses to give a straight answer and this is frustrating as a fan.x infinity
pantherclub
Footballguy
Yeah i just re-read that post and I have no ####### clue what I was trying to say.
drfeelgood
Footballguy
Maybe the Panthers want to keep DeAngelo Williams or slap the franchise tag on him. By the way things are going the Panthers should have a very high first round pick next year.
drfeelgood
Footballguy
A lot of coaches don't give a straight answer.
pantherclub
Footballguy
We are who we are.It is what it is.
pantherclub
Footballguy
and a high 2nd .............oh wait.
RandyDB
Footballguy
And some coaches (chilly) flat out lie to the media.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I can't see what firing him now will do. They don't have a QB, they don't have a viable starting WR, and the defense was gutted in free agency this offseason. Fox hasn't exactly been put in a position to succeed (he's also a lame duck). I think Carolina will blow up the whole thing this offseason and hope that Cowher picks them as his new home.
Frank Black
Footballguy
Getting aside from the unnecessary spelling bee comments, I agree that the Panthers need to try to obtain more draft picks, particularly because the Panthers are mediocre in evaluating talent. Hence, they need to have more picks to compensate for the draft mistakes.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
How did Singletary ever get the HC job?? They guy is so unorganized on the sidelines that he could not have had a good interview.
Nightly Mistake
Footballguy
He has spirit, man! He has fighting spirit! Have you seen the eyes?
drfeelgood
Footballguy
The Fox era has had some great first round picks in the last several years, and some later picks have also worked out well. Their area of evaluating talent that isn't so good is at WR.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Frank Black
Footballguy
On second thought, I mostly agree with you, except that WR and QB draft selections are usually off the mark.And TE and QB. Outside of that, they have done better than average IMO.
Has Steve Smith punched him for this yet?
