Will New England drop 70 points on the Jets this week? (1 Viewer)

[Thumper]

Does anyone else out there think the Patriots have a legit shot at dropping 70 points on the Jets? The Patriots have been doing their best to embarrass whoever they play.

This week the Patriots and Belichick have the extra motivation of getting even with the team that cost them a first round pick, 500K out of Belichick's pocket as well as causing the entire organaztion a lot of embarrassment.

I am not joking when I say that I think the Patriots may put up 70 points on the Jets this week.

The entire spygate story is such a non issue that Mangini should be embarrassed he even brought it up. If he is not embarrassed now. He will be after Sunday.

If you have Patriots on you team play them all.

Prediction

New England 70

NYJ 10

 

[phthalatemagic]

rat?

 

[Angry Beavers]

NE will have 70 at halftime if they can.

I think NE tries to win this game along the lines of HUMILIATION. Think upwards of 77 to 0!

 

[TxBuckeye]

Does anyone else out there think the Patriots have a legit shot at dropping 70 points on the Jets? The Patriots have been doing their best to embarrass whoever they play.This week the Patriots and Belichick have the extra motivation of getting even with the team that cost them a first round pick, 500K out of Belichick's pocket as well as causing the entire organaztion a lot of embarrassment.I am not joking when I say that I think the Patriots may put up 70 points on the Jets this week. The entire spygate story is such a non issue that Mangini should be embarrassed he even brought it up. If he is not embarrassed now. He will be after Sunday.If you have Patriots on you team play them all.PredictionNew England 70NYJ 10

Psssst, look down ONE post....

 

[HF21]

I hope not...I'm facing Moss in the Semi's

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

Watching the Browns game yesterday, those Jets have an up and coming defense. I was impressed with Revis, Kerry Rhodes, and Harris. I think they get nowhere near 70. Maybe 34-7 or something.

 

[Thumper]

rat?

RAT!!!Being Italian myself. The Italian people feel that people like Mangini (one of our own) is a true RAT for giving secrets away. After coach Belichick gave the little rat his big break Mangini goes (like a little child) behind his back and tells on him (for a minor infraction that every team attempts) like a little school girl. He is nothing but a disgraceful RAT that is not a man of respect or honor.

 

[posty]

If I was Belichick I would be very careful... If they start to run it up, I wouldn't be surprised to see someone go after Brady's knees...

 

[phthalatemagic]

rat?

RAT!!!Being Italian myself. The Italian people feel that people like Mangini (one of our own) is a true RAT for giving secrets away. After coach Belichick gave the little rat his big break Mangini goes (like a little child) behind his back and tells on him (for a minor infraction that every team attempts) like a little school girl. He is nothing but a disgraceful RAT that is not a man of respect or honor.

toxic waste

 

[Thumper]

rat?

RAT!!!Being Italian myself. The Italian people feel that people like Mangini (one of our own) is a true RAT for giving secrets away. After coach Belichick gave the little rat his big break Mangini goes (like a little child) behind his back and tells on him (for a minor infraction that every team attempts) like a little school girl. He is nothing but a disgraceful RAT that is not a man of respect or honor.

toxic waste

Uh...It's a joke.

 

[Phlash]

Patriots will definitely score a lot by halftime. Brady will probably hit 48 TDs after the game is over I think... and probably another 350 passing.

 

[Joe Bryant]

rat?

RAT!!!Being Italian myself. The Italian people feel that people like Mangini (one of our own) is a true RAT for giving secrets away. After coach Belichick gave the little rat his big break Mangini goes (like a little child) behind his back and tells on him (for a minor infraction that every team attempts) like a little school girl. He is nothing but a disgraceful RAT that is not a man of respect or honor.

toxic waste

Please stop this now.J

 

[KellysHeroes]

Watching the Browns game yesterday, those Jets have an up and coming defense. I was impressed with Revis, Kerry Rhodes, and Harris. I think they get nowhere near 70. Maybe 34-7 or something.

I was at the game yesterday... Rhodes / Elam / Harris we're all impressive... not Revis. Hes got a lot of learning to do, but he will be good in a yr or 2. And can we please pressure the QB atleast 3 times...

 

[FavreCo]

Jets need to do 2 things. Hog the ball with a running game and eat the clock like they did vs Cleveland. Then they need to blanket Moss like Pittsburgh forgot to do. That way they lose 35-7 and Stallworth or someone else gets the scores.

 

[shadyridr]

Jets defense has really improved in the 2nd half of the season. I see a 38-10 victory.

 

[dudaman]

The beauty of the NFL is that you never know what you are going to get in any given game (see Dal/Det yesterday). This is why I think the Jets will not lose by 63, 53, 43, 33 or even 23. I really think the Pats need to ramp up the running game a little - and they may try to do it this week. 38-17 Pats, in a ball-controlled beat-down.

 

[Reaper]

Watching the Browns game yesterday, those Jets have an up and coming defense. I was impressed with Revis, Kerry Rhodes, and Harris. I think they get nowhere near 70. Maybe 34-7 or something.

I was at the game yesterday... Rhodes / Elam / Harris we're all impressive... not Revis. Hes got a lot of learning to do, but he will be good in a yr or 2. And can we please pressure the QB atleast 3 times...

Revis got burned on that TD but, he was in the right spot... Edwards caught that with one hand...Revis has been going against top WR's each week - He's been holding his own.. A better pass rush would help.

 

[Sweet Love]

Jets defense has really improved in the 2nd half of the season. I see a 38-10 victory.

Plus Mangini does know Belicheck and his schemes better than other opposing coaches. I am not going to predict a a Jets win or even a close game, but I see no reason why the Jets can't keep it within 20 points. They lost by 24 the first time around while NE will play with a chip on their shoulder the Jets will be quite aware of NE's penchant to run up the score and do what they can to keep it close. While we know they were not really a 10-6 team last year, i think they better than the typical 3-10 team this year.

 

[twitch]

The beauty of the NFL is that you never know what you are going to get in any given game (see Dal/Det yesterday). This is why I think the Jets will not lose by 63, 53, 43, 33 or even 23. I really think the Pats need to ramp up the running game a little - and they may try to do it this week. 38-17 Pats, in a ball-controlled beat-down.

I was kindof thinking the same thing. But then I look at it from the flipside and ask myself, what will running the ball well against the Jets accomplish? I dont know that it actually accomplishes or proves anything. Sure, it would be good to work on their running game. Which is why they should do it. But that seems almost too easy too predict, which is what makes it suspiciously unlikely, imo. I think theyll continue to work on the part of their game that no team so far has had an answer to. I dont think they'll score 70. And I dont think they'll win by 50. I do think Brady will throw for 5 TDs and get that record out of the way, though. It would be only fitting that it happened at home and against the Jets. Something like 44-13 seems about right.

 

[greenline]

NE 30

NYJ 3

 

[PatrickT]

I'm hoping for 8 TD passes.

From Cassel to Gaffney. Brady and Moss need to sit this one out.

 

[(unwelcomed)GUEST]

After 2 or 3 td passes will Brady run all the way over to the JETS' sideline and talk smack to Mangini? I like how no flag gets thrown when he runs 20 yards to talk S*** to an opponent when the play is over yet in another game the refs throw a flag for celebrating with snow

As far as dropping 70 points on the NYJ, I'd say it depends on the weather. If the weathers decent 60 may happen.

 

[Arnold. S]

New England should throw deep every 1st down

 

[Workhorse]

Jets defense has really improved in the 2nd half of the season. I see a 38-10 victory.

Plus Mangini does know Belicheck and his schemes better than other opposing coaches. I am not going to predict a a Jets win or even a close game, but I see no reason why the Jets can't keep it within 20 points. They lost by 24 the first time around while NE will play with a chip on their shoulder the Jets will be quite aware of NE's penchant to run up the score and do what they can to keep it close. While we know they were not really a 10-6 team last year, i think they better than the typical 3-10 team this year .

Really?24th in points scored

25th in point allowed

22nd in ypa passing offense

24th in ypa rushing offense

27th in ypa passing defense

26th in ypa rushing defense

They stink in every phase of the game and 2 of their 3 wins this season came against the worst NFL team in the last 20 years (Miami).

I think they are possibly WORSE than the typical 3-10 team.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Jets 6

Patriots 77

6 TDs in the first half, 5 in the second.

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[jscout]

The Jets are one of those crappy teams that can occasionally rise to the task. Since they are a divisional rival (more like nuisance) I doubt it'll be that big of a blow out. As much as I'd like to see a 100-0 annihilation, I think it'll more realistically be 30's to low teens or less. The Pats may even hit the 40's. They play each other too often for it to be a true cakewalk every time. But then again, I thought the same thing the first time they met this season. The difference is the Jets now have current film to study.

 

[KoolKat]

I think Belicheat is the rat for cheating with underhanded tactics. All teams try to steal signals, but Belicheat had a guy on the JETS SIDELINE with a video camera to steal his. Is there any actual proof Mangini had anything to do with him being caught? Funny how when people are caught doing something wrong many refuse to take blame. Those without class do not take responsibility, but instead rationalize why they are not that bad.

Not too mention running up the score.

That being said, I believe the Pats will demolish the Jets.

 

[Workhorse]

I think Belicheat is the rat for cheating with underhanded tactics. All teams try to steal signals, but Belicheat had a guy on the JETS SIDELINE with a video camera to steal his. Is there any actual proof Mangini had anything to do with him being caught? Funny how when people are caught doing something wrong many refuse to take blame. Those without class do not take responsibility, but instead rationalize why they are not that bad.

Not for nothing but John Czarnecki from Fox reports that it's now "common knowledge in New England" that the Patriots had a Jets cameraman removed from the sidelines last season at Gillette Stadium.

 

[greenline]

I think Belicheat is the rat for cheating with underhanded tactics. All teams try to steal signals, but Belicheat had a guy on the JETS SIDELINE with a video camera to steal his. Is there any actual proof Mangini had anything to do with him being caught? Funny how when people are caught doing something wrong many refuse to take blame. Those without class do not take responsibility, but instead rationalize why they are not that bad.

Not for nothing but John Czarnecki from Fox reports that it's now "common knowledge in New England" that the Patriots had a Jets cameraman removed from the sidelines last season at Gillette Stadium.

Also, I'm pretty sure the employee was not on the Jets sideline. He was on the NE sideline.

 

[NoCheese]

Do you think in an effort to show the league that he has a broken spirit and a contrite heart from cheating earlier in the year against the Jets, that Bellichek will show class to the Jets and not run up the score?

 

[KoolKat]

I think Belicheat is the rat for cheating with underhanded tactics. All teams try to steal signals, but Belicheat had a guy on the JETS SIDELINE with a video camera to steal his. Is there any actual proof Mangini had anything to do with him being caught? Funny how when people are caught doing something wrong many refuse to take blame. Those without class do not take responsibility, but instead rationalize why they are not that bad.

Not for nothing but John Czarnecki from Fox reports that it's now "common knowledge in New England" that the Patriots had a Jets cameraman removed from the sidelines last season at Gillette Stadium.

If true, then Mangini would also be a rat in my book. Being cheated against, and the other team being caught doing so against you does not make you a rat.

 

[GroveDiesel]

If I was Belichick I would be very careful... If they start to run it up, I wouldn't be surprised to see someone go after Brady's knees...

I was thinking the same thing. If everyone out there thinks that Mangini is such a dirty guy, then why wouldn't he encourage his players to go for the knees? He's smart enough to know that Bellichick will probably want to run the score up, and smart enough to know that if Brady goes down for the season, that the Patriots are done. Or what if Matt Light "accidentally" has his knee rolled up on?

 

[BroadwayG]

If I was Belichick I would be very careful... If they start to run it up, I wouldn't be surprised to see someone go after Brady's knees...

It would have to be a fan from the stands or a waterboy from the sidelines. Anyone in a Jets uniform won't get close enough.

 

[Reaper]

I think Belicheat is the rat for cheating with underhanded tactics. All teams try to steal signals, but Belicheat had a guy on the JETS SIDELINE with a video camera to steal his. Is there any actual proof Mangini had anything to do with him being caught? Funny how when people are caught doing something wrong many refuse to take blame. Those without class do not take responsibility, but instead rationalize why they are not that bad.

Not for nothing but John Czarnecki from Fox reports that it's now "common knowledge in New England" that the Patriots had a Jets cameraman removed from the sidelines last season at Gillette Stadium.

If true, then Mangini would also be a rat in my book. Being cheated against, and the other team being caught doing so against you does not make you a rat.

It was at the start of this year that the league came out and specifically told team to STOP IT.....Bellichik STILL thought it was important enough to keep doing it.

 

[Jason Wood]

One has to think Mangini is going to do everything humanly possible to slow the game down. He knows his team won't beat the Pats, but I'm sure he will do all he can to keep it from being an embarrassment.

I say 37-12

 

[TxBuckeye]

Do you think in an effort to show the league that he has a broken spirit and a contrite heart from cheating earlier in the year against the Jets, that Bellichek will show class to the Jets and not run up the score?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one.

 

[BroadwayG]

I hope they put up 100

 

[Kosar]

Jets defense has really improved in the 2nd half of the season. I see a 38-10 victory.

Plus Mangini does know Belicheck and his schemes better than other opposing coaches. I am not going to predict a a Jets win or even a close game, but I see no reason why the Jets can't keep it within 20 points. They lost by 24 the first time around while NE will play with a chip on their shoulder the Jets will be quite aware of NE's penchant to run up the score and do what they can to keep it close. While we know they were not really a 10-6 team last year, i think they better than the typical 3-10 team this year .

Really?24th in points scored

25th in point allowed

22nd in ypa passing offense

24th in ypa rushing offense

27th in ypa passing defense

26th in ypa rushing defense

They stink in every phase of the game and 2 of their 3 wins this season came against the worst NFL team in the last 20 years (Miami).

I think they are possibly WORSE than the typical 3-10 team.

Nothing like showing year-to-date stats that prove absolutely nothing about a team that has played better defensively in the last few weeks.

 

[Workhorse]

Jets defense has really improved in the 2nd half of the season. I see a 38-10 victory.

Plus Mangini does know Belicheck and his schemes better than other opposing coaches. I am not going to predict a a Jets win or even a close game, but I see no reason why the Jets can't keep it within 20 points. They lost by 24 the first time around while NE will play with a chip on their shoulder the Jets will be quite aware of NE's penchant to run up the score and do what they can to keep it close. While we know they were not really a 10-6 team last year, i think they better than the typical 3-10 team this year .

Really?24th in points scored

25th in point allowed

22nd in ypa passing offense

24th in ypa rushing offense

27th in ypa passing defense

26th in ypa rushing defense

They stink in every phase of the game and 2 of their 3 wins this season came against the worst NFL team in the last 20 years (Miami).

I think they are possibly WORSE than the typical 3-10 team.

Nothing like showing year-to-date stats that prove absolutely nothing about a team that has played better defensively in the last few weeks.

I'm going to "Be Excellent" here and just point out that if you're talking about whether a team is better or worse than their record after 13 games, their stats over those 13 games are kinda relevant.Have a great day!

ETA: And have the Jets really "played better defensively" over the past 3 games?

Points allowed in the past 3 games total: 71 (approx. 24 ppg)

Points allowed ytd: 315 (approx. 24 ppg)

And those 71 points allowed against the Cowboys, Dolphins and Browns? Well, they allowed 34 points to the Cowboys (32 ppg avg), 13 points to the Dolphins (16 ppg avg) and 24 points to the Browns (28 ppg avg). It's not like the Jets were doing anything special the last 3 games defensively that I can see.

 

[dudaman]

The beauty of the NFL is that you never know what you are going to get in any given game (see Dal/Det yesterday). This is why I think the Jets will not lose by 63, 53, 43, 33 or even 23. I really think the Pats need to ramp up the running game a little - and they may try to do it this week. 38-17 Pats, in a ball-controlled beat-down.

I was kindof thinking the same thing. But then I look at it from the flipside and ask myself, what will running the ball well against the Jets accomplish? I dont know that it actually accomplishes or proves anything. Sure, it would be good to work on their running game. Which is why they should do it. But that seems almost too easy too predict, which is what makes it suspiciously unlikely, imo. I think theyll continue to work on the part of their game that no team so far has had an answer to. I dont think they'll score 70. And I dont think they'll win by 50. I do think Brady will throw for 5 TDs and get that record out of the way, though. It would be only fitting that it happened at home and against the Jets. Something like 44-13 seems about right.

I guess the question is "can they sling it in a blizzard"? They have (probably, knock on wood!) two home playoff games in NE weather. In all the years I've been going, we average one game with heavy snow every year. If that time comes, I would hope that we could hand it off 40 times, with the other team knowing we were going to do it, and succeed. None of this shotgun/draw stuff they do all the time. I know they are dominating, but it's through the air - not the ground, which (to me) is "true domination".

 

[Slinger]

The entire spygate story is such a non issue

I stopped reading after this. New England fans are annoying.

 

[Kosar]

Jets defense has really improved in the 2nd half of the season. I see a 38-10 victory.

Plus Mangini does know Belicheck and his schemes better than other opposing coaches. I am not going to predict a a Jets win or even a close game, but I see no reason why the Jets can't keep it within 20 points. They lost by 24 the first time around while NE will play with a chip on their shoulder the Jets will be quite aware of NE's penchant to run up the score and do what they can to keep it close. While we know they were not really a 10-6 team last year, i think they better than the typical 3-10 team this year .

Really?24th in points scored

25th in point allowed

22nd in ypa passing offense

24th in ypa rushing offense

27th in ypa passing defense

26th in ypa rushing defense

They stink in every phase of the game and 2 of their 3 wins this season came against the worst NFL team in the last 20 years (Miami).

I think they are possibly WORSE than the typical 3-10 team.

Nothing like showing year-to-date stats that prove absolutely nothing about a team that has played better defensively in the last few weeks.

I'm going to "Be Excellent" here and just point out that if you're talking about whether a team is better or worse than their record after 13 games, their stats over those 13 games are kinda relevant.Have a great day!

ETA: And have the Jets really "played better defensively" over the past 3 games?

Points allowed in the past 3 games total: 71 (approx. 24 ppg)

Points allowed ytd: 315 (approx. 24 ppg)

And those 71 points allowed against the Cowboys, Dolphins and Browns? Well, they allowed 34 points to the Cowboys (32 ppg avg), 13 points to the Dolphins (16 ppg avg) and 24 points to the Browns (28 ppg avg). It's not like the Jets were doing anything special the last 3 games defensively that I can see.

I'm assuming Sweet Love meant that the Jets are not playing like a 3-10 team at the moment. Thus, year-to-date stats would tell you nothing in that regard.

 

[Kiddnets]

I love it - the turd is caught cheating and the victim is called a rat.

Let's put this into proper context - you are in a business where confidentiality is critical. Your main competitor makes illegal copies of your corporate secrets and uses them against your business to crush you. By lyour company losing the money due to this espionage you could lose your own job - Your security team catches the competitor red handed - you don't turn them in?

The NFL is a multibillion dollar business - if it was the real world in an example like the above - Bellijerk would be facing jail time not losing picks.

Mangini a rat? Give me a break!

The Jets did the same thing? Why aren't they out a 1st rder?

BTW - Jets keep it respectable - this is their Super Bowl - 31-10

 

[Sweet Love]

Jets defense has really improved in the 2nd half of the season. I see a 38-10 victory.

Plus Mangini does know Belicheck and his schemes better than other opposing coaches. I am not going to predict a a Jets win or even a close game, but I see no reason why the Jets can't keep it within 20 points. They lost by 24 the first time around while NE will play with a chip on their shoulder the Jets will be quite aware of NE's penchant to run up the score and do what they can to keep it close. While we know they were not really a 10-6 team last year, i think they better than the typical 3-10 team this year .

Really?24th in points scored

25th in point allowed

22nd in ypa passing offense

24th in ypa rushing offense

27th in ypa passing defense

26th in ypa rushing defense

They stink in every phase of the game and 2 of their 3 wins this season came against the worst NFL team in the last 20 years (Miami).

I think they are possibly WORSE than the typical 3-10 team.

Nothing like showing year-to-date stats that prove absolutely nothing about a team that has played better defensively in the last few weeks.

I'm going to "Be Excellent" here and just point out that if you're talking about whether a team is better or worse than their record after 13 games, their stats over those 13 games are kinda relevant.Have a great day!

ETA: And have the Jets really "played better defensively" over the past 3 games?

Points allowed in the past 3 games total: 71 (approx. 24 ppg)

Points allowed ytd: 315 (approx. 24 ppg)

And those 71 points allowed against the Cowboys, Dolphins and Browns? Well, they allowed 34 points to the Cowboys (32 ppg avg), 13 points to the Dolphins (16 ppg avg) and 24 points to the Browns (28 ppg avg). It's not like the Jets were doing anything special the last 3 games defensively that I can see.

I'm assuming Sweet Love meant that the Jets are not playing like a 3-10 team at the moment. Thus, year-to-date stats would tell you nothing in that regard.

Yeah, that is what I was going for. I do agree with Workhorse that they have the look of a team that is 3-10 (or maybe worse), when you compile all the stats together, but you can't disregard that the AFC Eest (like most other conferences), play each other very tough. Also, when you look at the stats he did supply, they not in the bottom five of any of those categories (albiet close), yet their record indicates they are a bottom five team. Miami did not lose to Miami by 70 and it has been well dcoumented that Belicheck has not held back yet, so the Jets are not going to walk in on a team this weekend that is all of the sudden ready to "run it up".

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Silly thread; silly posts.

NE 38

NYJ 20

 

[pats3in4]

No. They'll put up 30+, maybe even 40+, but 70+ is a crazy expectation.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

Season records they could break this week:

QB Passing TD (need 5 for 50)

WR Rec TD (need 4 for 23)

Points in a season (need 54 for 557)

They will be motivated to do all three. I'm not sure if the Jets have the will or talent to stop them.

 

[pats3in4]

Let's put this into proper context - you are in a business where confidentiality is critical. Your main competitor makes illegal copies of your corporate secrets and uses them against your business to crush you. By lyour company losing the money due to this espionage you could lose your own job - Your security team catches the competitor red handed - you don't turn them in? The NFL is a multibillion dollar business - if it was the real world in an example like the above - Bellijerk would be facing jail time not losing picks.

I think the company should change their hand signals, though, like the Jets could have and should have done as plenty of other teams have done when they suspect the opponent has figured out their signals/audibles. I think your "proper context" isn't all that proper. You would have had a stronger argument if BB was accused of tapping into the coach-to-QB headset communication, though.I'm not excusing Belichick for violating the rule about no recording devices on the sidelines. He broke it and has paid a steep price for doing so, IMO. The league has no issue with the act of stealing signals/audibles or else would have come down hard on teams that have done it in the past (e.g. Miami last year vs. New England), but rather the method. The league would monitor closely the activities of advance scouts using binoculars and taking notes of defensive hand signals, but they don't. The league has not sent a memo to teams indicating that such activities are against the rules. Instead, the memo said "no recording devices" allowed. The difference in such wording is huge.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Season records they could break this week:QB Passing TD (need 5 for 50)WR Rec TD (need 4 for 23)Points in a season (need 54 for 557)They will be motivated to do all three. I'm not sure if the Jets have the will or talent to stop them.

I would love to see them break all three of these records.Couple this with the 2 final games against Miami and NYG,and they could build on these numbers so no one will EVER touch them.

 

[scapegoat]

I know they are dominating, but it's through the air - not the ground, which (to me) is "true domination".

Okay now i've officially heard it all.