Will the Patriots go undefeated again in 2015? (1 Viewer)

[KarmaPolice]

Anything can happen, but PIT has never beaten Brady in NE.

Not saying it'd be easy. Never easy to win in New England.But there's never been a time that they'd be heading into New England with the kind of firepower they'd have if Ben, Bell, Brown, and Bryant are all healthy. It's the most explosive Steelers offense I can remember. The Steelers would have top talents with huge matchup edges to exploit at both WR spots and an elite RB to keep them honest.

In week one, Deangelo ran great but the Steelers faltered in the red zone and in key moments because they had no one other than Brown to catch passes and no threat out of the backfield either. It's enough firepower to keep up with the Pats.

At the end of the day the steelers just don't have Tom Brady. That's all that really matters.... The Greatest Qb Ever.

Yeah that 7 yard pass does make him look invincible. What's his numbers beyond 20 yds? Evil Bill (and the Tuck rule) made Tom Brady more than Tom Brady making Evil Bill. Joe Montana is the greatest QB ever. I'd take Elway or Unitas (man who revolutionized the position) over Pretty Boy Tom Brady. Hell, Evil Bill himself said Bert Jones was the best QB he ever saw and if he hadn't got hurt would have gone down as one of (if not the) best of all time. He said that after winning a SB with PBTB.

Lol. Now i guess you have to sling it downfield every play to be the greatest. You would think if it was so easy, every other team would be mimicking the Pats offense.

 

[JohnnyU]

Anything can happen, but PIT has never beaten Brady in NE.

Not saying it'd be easy. Never easy to win in New England.But there's never been a time that they'd be heading into New England with the kind of firepower they'd have if Ben, Bell, Brown, and Bryant are all healthy. It's the most explosive Steelers offense I can remember. The Steelers would have top talents with huge matchup edges to exploit at both WR spots and an elite RB to keep them honest.

In week one, Deangelo ran great but the Steelers faltered in the red zone and in key moments because they had no one other than Brown to catch passes and no threat out of the backfield either. It's enough firepower to keep up with the Pats.

At the end of the day the steelers just don't have Tom Brady. That's all that really matters.... The Greatest Qb Ever.

Yeah that 7 yard pass does make him look invincible. What's his numbers beyond 20 yds? Evil Bill (and the Tuck rule) made Tom Brady more than Tom Brady making Evil Bill. Joe Montana is the greatest QB ever. I'd take Elway or Unitas (man who revolutionized the position) over Pretty Boy Tom Brady. Hell, Evil Bill himself said Bert Jones was the best QB he ever saw and if he hadn't got hurt would have gone down as one of (if not the) best of all time. He said that after winning a SB with PBTB.

Lol. Now i guess you have to sling it downfield every play to be the greatest. You would think if it was so easy, every other team would be mimicking the Pats offense.

Most everyone outside of NE hates Evil Bill, but there is no denying that he is a great coach. I personally can't wait for him to retire and do some fishing.

 

[TDorBust]

Anything can happen, but PIT has never beaten Brady in NE.

Not saying it'd be easy. Never easy to win in New England.But there's never been a time that they'd be heading into New England with the kind of firepower they'd have if Ben, Bell, Brown, and Bryant are all healthy. It's the most explosive Steelers offense I can remember. The Steelers would have top talents with huge matchup edges to exploit at both WR spots and an elite RB to keep them honest.

In week one, Deangelo ran great but the Steelers faltered in the red zone and in key moments because they had no one other than Brown to catch passes and no threat out of the backfield either. It's enough firepower to keep up with the Pats.

At the end of the day the steelers just don't have Tom Brady. That's all that really matters.... The Greatest Qb Ever.

Yeah that 7 yard pass does make him look invincible. What's his numbers beyond 20 yds? Evil Bill (and the Tuck rule) made Tom Brady more than Tom Brady making Evil Bill. Joe Montana is the greatest QB ever. I'd take Elway or Unitas (man who revolutionized the position) over Pretty Boy Tom Brady. Hell, Evil Bill himself said Bert Jones was the best QB he ever saw and if he hadn't got hurt would have gone down as one of (if not the) best of all time. He said that after winning a SB with PBTB.

Lol. Now i guess you have to sling it downfield every play to be the greatest. You would think if it was so easy, every other team would be mimicking the Pats offense.

Most everyone outside of NE hates Evil Bill, but there is no denying that he is a great coach. I personally can't wait for him to retire and do some fishing.

I am waiting for him to get behind the times. The longer he sticks around the more likely he starts to get out coached which really has never happened to this point in the last 10 years but it's unlikely to happen in the next 5 years.

Also I can't wait for Bellichek to force Brady out of New England in the next 2-3 years. We will see if Brady takes it and rides off or if he puts up a fight and plays elsewhere. A coach as smart as Bellichek will realize all great QBs succumb to age no matter what they say. Plus it's not like Brady isn't taking some shots from the defense.

 

[JohnnyU]

Anything can happen, but PIT has never beaten Brady in NE.

Not saying it'd be easy. Never easy to win in New England.But there's never been a time that they'd be heading into New England with the kind of firepower they'd have if Ben, Bell, Brown, and Bryant are all healthy. It's the most explosive Steelers offense I can remember. The Steelers would have top talents with huge matchup edges to exploit at both WR spots and an elite RB to keep them honest.

In week one, Deangelo ran great but the Steelers faltered in the red zone and in key moments because they had no one other than Brown to catch passes and no threat out of the backfield either. It's enough firepower to keep up with the Pats.

At the end of the day the steelers just don't have Tom Brady. That's all that really matters.... The Greatest Qb Ever.

Yeah that 7 yard pass does make him look invincible. What's his numbers beyond 20 yds? Evil Bill (and the Tuck rule) made Tom Brady more than Tom Brady making Evil Bill. Joe Montana is the greatest QB ever. I'd take Elway or Unitas (man who revolutionized the position) over Pretty Boy Tom Brady. Hell, Evil Bill himself said Bert Jones was the best QB he ever saw and if he hadn't got hurt would have gone down as one of (if not the) best of all time. He said that after winning a SB with PBTB.

Lol. Now i guess you have to sling it downfield every play to be the greatest. You would think if it was so easy, every other team would be mimicking the Pats offense.

Most everyone outside of NE hates Evil Bill, but there is no denying that he is a great coach. I personally can't wait for him to retire and do some fishing.

I am waiting for him to get behind the times. The longer he sticks around the more likely he starts to get out coached which really has never happened to this point in the last 10 years but it's unlikely to happen in the next 5 years.

Also I can't wait for Bellichek to force Brady out of New England in the next 2-3 years. We will see if Brady takes it and rides off or if he puts up a fight and plays elsewhere. A coach as smart as Bellichek will realize all great QBs succumb to age no matter what they say. Plus it's not like Brady isn't taking some shots from the defense.

Evil Bill will not get out coached by anyone anytime soon IMO. He will retire on his own terms.

 

[ShamrockPride]

I could see Bill as the type to have Brady leave eventually, have a mediocre season where the Pats lose with another QB in the wildcard round, realize "Gee, It's never going to be the same again or be as successful as I was with Tom", and take his ball, go home and retire.

 

[DropKick]

Anything can happen, but PIT has never beaten Brady in NE.

Not saying it'd be easy. Never easy to win in New England.But there's never been a time that they'd be heading into New England with the kind of firepower they'd have if Ben, Bell, Brown, and Bryant are all healthy. It's the most explosive Steelers offense I can remember. The Steelers would have top talents with huge matchup edges to exploit at both WR spots and an elite RB to keep them honest.

In week one, Deangelo ran great but the Steelers faltered in the red zone and in key moments because they had no one other than Brown to catch passes and no threat out of the backfield either. It's enough firepower to keep up with the Pats.

At the end of the day the steelers just don't have Tom Brady. That's all that really matters.... The Greatest Qb Ever.

Yeah that 7 yard pass does make him look invincible. What's his numbers beyond 20 yds? Evil Bill (and the Tuck rule) made Tom Brady more than Tom Brady making Evil Bill. Joe Montana is the greatest QB ever. I'd take Elway or Unitas (man who revolutionized the position) over Pretty Boy Tom Brady. Hell, Evil Bill himself said Bert Jones was the best QB he ever saw and if he hadn't got hurt would have gone down as one of (if not the) best of all time. He said that after winning a SB with PBTB.

Lol. Now i guess you have to sling it downfield every play to be the greatest. You would think if it was so easy, every other team would be mimicking the Pats offense.

I guess you get oohs and aahs bonus points for a rocket arm and pretty long balls. People overlook the most important attribute of all - winning.

I'm not big on GOAT discussions in general but Montana and Brady have so much in common including elite, innovative coaches.

It's ironic to note that Belichick, as Defensive Coordinator for the Giants, knocked off the Montana led 49ers in the 85, 86 and 90 playoffs, winning SBs in 86 & 90. And Belichick's lone play-off win with the Browns was over.... the Patriots.

Bert Jones was a heck of a QB. Sometimes injuries just derail a career.

 

[Morton Muffley]

I could see Bill as the type to have Brady leave eventually, have a mediocre season where the Pats lose with another QB in the wildcard round, realize "Gee, It's never going to be the same again or be as successful as I was with Tom", and take his ball, go home and retire.

Perhaps, but seems to me that he has been planning for life without Brady for some time now. He has spent reasonably high draft picks (i.e. 2nd and 3rd rounders) on QBs over the last half-dozen years (Connolly, Mallett, Garrapolo). To me that speaks of a coach/GM who is desirous of winning when Brady is gone. I think BB wants to win without Brady and has been planning to do so for some time. Now, if Brady plays at a high level into his 40s then all bets are off.

 

[Anarchy99]

ESPN's calculated chances to win each remaining game . . .

WAS 86.3%

@NYG 74.5%

BUF 76.5%

@DEN 55%

PHI 69.2%

@HOU 76%

TEN 88.4%

@NYJ 59.6%

@MIA 68.6%

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

ESPN's calculated chances to win each remaining game . . .

WAS 86.3%

@NYG 74.5%

BUF 76.5%

@DEN 55%

PHI 69.2%

@HOU 76%

TEN 88.4%

@NYJ 59.6%

@MIA 68.6%

although I expect Peyton to choke it, Brady vs that Denver D on the road should be a great test

 

[Old Smiley]

ESPN's calculated chances to win each remaining game . . .

WAS 86.3%

@NYG 74.5%

BUF 76.5%

@DEN 55%

PHI 69.2%

@HOU 76%

TEN 88.4%

@NYJ 59.6%

@MIA 68.6%

They're all flippin' traps! Every one. It's a traaaaaap!!

 

[BoomGoesTheDynamite]

ESPN's calculated chances to win each remaining game . . .

WAS 86.3%

@NYG 74.5%

BUF 76.5%

@DEN 55%

PHI 69.2%

@HOU 76%

TEN 88.4%

@NYJ 59.6%

@MIA 68.6%

Using those figures puts the Patriots ~5% chance to go undefeated which seems higher than it probably is.

 

[dansav]

14-2 and a Super Bowl sounds better to me

 

[Old Smiley]

So, didja hear that Tom Brady doesn't care if Pats go 16 and 0? Apparently about ten thousand guys on my twitter feed have...

 

[Run It Up]

If the Broncos go undefeated this year, this Peyton Manning will be seen as the best of all time.

Implying people wouldn't even if he goes 8-8.

Watch him overcome his worst season ever by being on the best team hes ever been on.

 

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ESPN's calculated chances to win each remaining game . . .

WAS 86.3%

@NYG 74.5%

BUF 76.5%

@DEN 55%

PHI 69.2%

@HOU 76%

TEN 88.4%

@NYJ 59.6%

@MIA 68.6%

For those of us holding the "will pats score 50pts again this season" bet at 10-1... which options look like the best candidates?

WASH: jets and bucks both hung 30-ish on them. It's at home. I'll say decent chance.

@NYG: Grudge match, and they just gave up 50 to Saints. But it's a road game. Not a good chance.

BUF: Rex at home.. Hung 40 on them in Buffalo... Small to decent chance.

@DEN: No chance

PHI: Home game but pretty solid D. Very Unlikely.

@HOU: Falcons and Dolphins both hit the mid 40s against them, but at home. Can pats do it on the road? Small to decent chance.

TEN: Home game vs Titans... Dolphis and Colts both hung mid 30s on them. Decent chance.

@NYJ: No chance...especially on the road

@ MIA: Very unlikely on the road.

I'm saying games in bold give the best shot. Possibly in a shootout vs PHI... but who knows.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

Yeah that 7 yard pass does make him look invincible. What's his numbers beyond 20 yds? Evil Bill (and the Tuck rule) made Tom Brady more than Tom Brady making Evil Bill. Joe Montana is the greatest QB ever. I'd take Elway or Unitas (man who revolutionized the position) over Pretty Boy Tom Brady. Hell, Evil Bill himself said Bert Jones was the best QB he ever saw and if he hadn't got hurt would have gone down as one of (if not the) best of all time. He said that after winning a SB with PBTB.

Great post to show why drinking and posting is never a good idea.

LOL, hardly. I just like to get a rise out of Pats fans every time one of them calls brady the best ever.e

No, sadly you are obsessed with tearing down Tom Brady every chance u get and your obsession has become almost comical since u became convinced that your guy is all done and u feel it likely only gets uglier from here.

Now you are clinging to the tried and true "passes have to travel more than 20 yards or they don't count" narrative. Ok, I'll bite; Brady and the Pats are 7-0, but u want to know what the all important beyond 20 yards numbers are.

According to ESPN Splits as of today.

Brady has attempted 20 passes between 21-40 yards and completed 9.

A. Rodgers has attempted 18 passes between 21-40 yards and completed 5.

How about that, Brady has attempted and completed more deep passes than A. Rodgers.

So, will you be starting a thread wondering why no one can stop GB's short passing game

For the love of god give it a rest..............

 

[JohnnyU]

Yeah that 7 yard pass does make him look invincible. What's his numbers beyond 20 yds? Evil Bill (and the Tuck rule) made Tom Brady more than Tom Brady making Evil Bill. Joe Montana is the greatest QB ever. I'd take Elway or Unitas (man who revolutionized the position) over Pretty Boy Tom Brady. Hell, Evil Bill himself said Bert Jones was the best QB he ever saw and if he hadn't got hurt would have gone down as one of (if not the) best of all time. He said that after winning a SB with PBTB.

Great post to show why drinking and posting is never a good idea.

LOL, hardly. I just like to get a rise out of Pats fans every time one of them calls brady the best ever.e

No, sadly you are obsessed with tearing down Tom Brady every chance u get and your obsession has become almost comical since u became convinced that your guy is all done and u feel it likely only gets uglier from here.

Now you are clinging to the tried and true "passes have to travel more than 20 yards or they don't count" narrative. Ok, I'll bite; Brady and the Pats are 7-0, but u want to know what the all important beyond 20 yards numbers are.

According to ESPN Splits as of today.

Brady has attempted 20 passes between 21-40 yards and completed 9.

A. Rodgers has attempted 18 passes between 21-40 yards and completed 5.

How about that, Brady has attempted and completed more deep passes than A. Rodgers.

So, will you be starting a thread wondering why no one can stop GB's short passing game

For the love of god give it a rest..............

Evil Bill is a great coach !!! Perhaps the best ever behind Vince Lombardi. He makes other coaches look like HS coaches. Brady will go down as a geat QB, but best ever? Hardly. I don't care how many Super Bowls he wins.

 

[dansav]

If the Broncos go undefeated this year, this Peyton Manning will be seen as the best of all time.

Nah

 

[dansav]

If the Broncos go undefeated this year, this Peyton Manning will be seen as the best of all time.

Implying people wouldn't even if he goes 8-8.Watch him overcome his worst season ever by being on the best team hes ever been on.

I didn't even think the Manning vs Brady debate was still a debate

 

[JuniorNB]

Yeah that 7 yard pass does make him look invincible. What's his numbers beyond 20 yds? Evil Bill (and the Tuck rule) made Tom Brady more than Tom Brady making Evil Bill. Joe Montana is the greatest QB ever. I'd take Elway or Unitas (man who revolutionized the position) over Pretty Boy Tom Brady. Hell, Evil Bill himself said Bert Jones was the best QB he ever saw and if he hadn't got hurt would have gone down as one of (if not the) best of all time. He said that after winning a SB with PBTB.

Great post to show why drinking and posting is never a good idea.

LOL, hardly. I just like to get a rise out of Pats fans every time one of them calls brady the best ever.e

No, sadly you are obsessed with tearing down Tom Brady every chance u get and your obsession has become almost comical since u became convinced that your guy is all done and u feel it likely only gets uglier from here.

Now you are clinging to the tried and true "passes have to travel more than 20 yards or they don't count" narrative. Ok, I'll bite; Brady and the Pats are 7-0, but u want to know what the all important beyond 20 yards numbers are.

According to ESPN Splits as of today.

Brady has attempted 20 passes between 21-40 yards and completed 9.

A. Rodgers has attempted 18 passes between 21-40 yards and completed 5.

How about that, Brady has attempted and completed more deep passes than A. Rodgers.

So, will you be starting a thread wondering why no one can stop GB's short passing game

For the love of god give it a rest..............

Evil Bill is a great coach !!! Perhaps the best ever behind Vince Lombardi. He makes other coaches look like HS coaches. Brady will go down as a geat QB, but best ever? Hardly. I don't care how many Super Bowls he wins.

I have no dog in this fight and may be the biggest Patriots hater on the board, but you really do come off as jealous and pathetic.

Brady, who I can't stand, is top 3 all time right now. And is still playing at his peak. Another couple of years like this, and I begrudgingly have to admit that he's the best ever.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

First cold game with balls not to Tom's liking...

The cold weather would actually decrease the PSI in the footballs.

 

[dansav]

Yeah that 7 yard pass does make him look invincible. What's his numbers beyond 20 yds? Evil Bill (and the Tuck rule) made Tom Brady more than Tom Brady making Evil Bill. Joe Montana is the greatest QB ever. I'd take Elway or Unitas (man who revolutionized the position) over Pretty Boy Tom Brady. Hell, Evil Bill himself said Bert Jones was the best QB he ever saw and if he hadn't got hurt would have gone down as one of (if not the) best of all time. He said that after winning a SB with PBTB.

Great post to show why drinking and posting is never a good idea.

LOL, hardly. I just like to get a rise out of Pats fans every time one of them calls brady the best ever.e

No, sadly you are obsessed with tearing down Tom Brady every chance u get and your obsession has become almost comical since u became convinced that your guy is all done and u feel it likely only gets uglier from here.

Now you are clinging to the tried and true "passes have to travel more than 20 yards or they don't count" narrative. Ok, I'll bite; Brady and the Pats are 7-0, but u want to know what the all important beyond 20 yards numbers are.

According to ESPN Splits as of today.

Brady has attempted 20 passes between 21-40 yards and completed 9.

A. Rodgers has attempted 18 passes between 21-40 yards and completed 5.

How about that, Brady has attempted and completed more deep passes than A. Rodgers.

So, will you be starting a thread wondering why no one can stop GB's short passing game

For the love of god give it a rest..............

Evil Bill is a great coach !!! Perhaps the best ever behind Vince Lombardi. He makes other coaches look like HS coaches. Brady will go down as a geat QB, but best ever? Hardly. I don't care how many Super Bowls he wins.

I have no dog in this fight and may be the biggest Patriots hater on the board, but you really do come off as jealous and pathetic.Brady, who I can't stand, is top 3 all time right now. And is still playing at his peak. Another couple of years like this, and I begrudgingly have to admit that he's the best ever.

Brady is the best ever right now. And it's funny seeing guys like junior be obsessed with the Patriots

 

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Brady is the best ever right now. And it's funny seeing guys like junior be obsessed with the Patriots

Junior seems to be being pretty cool here

 

[dansav]

Brady is the best ever right now. And it's funny seeing guys like junior be obsessed with the Patriots

Junior seems to be being pretty cool here

Never said he wasn't cool. He just jumps in all the pats threads and hates.. You would think he would spend more time on his Eagles than on a team he doesn't like.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Yeah...Brady right now is at best tied for GOAT QB. Each side between Joe and Tom have legitimate arguments. I wouldn't expect for anyone to agree with me in a Pats Homer thread, but any truly unbiased person would say they are tied right now. If Brady wins another...sure. Undisputed.

As far as any career records Brady may break, that really should play a minimal role in determining who had the better career. Sports medicine and training has come 10-fold since Joe played, and at that point Brady breaking all the big records will essentially just be the same as recognizing Pete Rose as the Hit King. It was simply a longevity award. And sure durability should be commended, but numbers are guaranteed to fall when you play so long.

Bottom line, win one for the thumb, and there's no longer any argument.

 

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but numbers are guaranteed to fall when you play so long.

Tell that to Kerry Collins

 

[ShamrockPride]

but numbers are guaranteed to fall when you play so long.

Tell that to Kerry Collins

Kerry Collins is 12th all-time in yards...and he isn't even near Brady-tier. And that's including the fact he was getting injured and being benched in place of guys like Vince Young the back half of his career...Edit: 13th* after the show Eli put on yesterday.

 

[devouredbychaos]

If the Broncos go undefeated this year, this Peyton Manning will be seen as the best of all time.

Implying people wouldn't even if he goes 8-8.Watch him overcome his worst season ever by being on the best team hes ever been on.

I didn't even think the Manning vs Brady debate was still a debate

It's not. JohnnyU is just a salty lil Manning lover

 

[3quinox]

No

 

[purestrength]

Denver is in Belichick's head.

 

[Deamon]

I Still think they go undefeated.

 

[Shutout]

Good thing Broncos won last night. Patriots have a cake schedule for their last 5 games.

Why is it good? I was looking forward to the 18-0 Pats Vs. the 18-0 Panthers.

 

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Pats can't win at Mile High. Broncos too good.

Broncos needed overtime at home to beat a receiving corps that accounted for 2 receptions and 13 yards in week one, and that makes them too good?

Take away Sanders, Deymarius, CJ, and Daniels... set the game in Foxboro and I'm guessing Patriots win by 3 scores or more.

 

[GROOT]

who cares

like i said...who cares

 

[Dr. Octopus]

probably not

 

[Old Smiley]

It looks like we'll be getting a lot of guys back in time for the playoff run. That's all that's ever mattered.

 

[flapgreen]

No

 

[Mudder]

Pats can't win at Mile High. Broncos too good.

Broncos needed overtime at home to beat a receiving corps that accounted for 2 receptions and 13 yards in week one, and that makes them too good?

Take away Sanders, Deymarius, CJ, and Daniels... set the game in Foxboro and I'm guessing Patriots win by 3 scores or more.

Broncos and Patriots have played 3 times in the last 22 months. Broncos have won twice. Broncos are the better team.

You get a trophy for that or something?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Pats can't win at Mile High. Broncos too good.

Broncos needed overtime at home to beat a receiving corps that accounted for 2 receptions and 13 yards in week one, and that makes them too good?

Take away Sanders, Deymarius, CJ, and Daniels... set the game in Foxboro and I'm guessing Patriots win by 3 scores or more.

Broncos and Patriots have played 3 times in the last 22 months. Broncos have won twice. Broncos are the better team.

You get a trophy for that or something?

Actually you do for the afc title game denver won. So yes

 

[Mudder]

Thanks, wasn't aware those counted.

 

[lod01]

Seems Brady was sure planning on an undefeated SB winning season. Bet he had it all planned out how he was going to rub it in the face of the commish. His bubble just got popped big time. Brady takes OT loss hard, says he's 'pissed off'.

Now I'll root harder for them to not even make the SB.

 

[JuniorNB]

Seems Brady was sure planning on an undefeated SB winning season. Bet he had it all planned out how he was going to rub it in the face of the commish. His bubble just got popped big time. Brady takes OT loss hard, says he's 'pissed off'.

Now I'll root harder for them to not even make the SB.

I hope Brady doesn't hear about your decision. He'll be crushed.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Pats can't win at Mile High. Broncos too good.

Broncos needed overtime at home to beat a receiving corps that accounted for 2 receptions and 13 yards in week one, and that makes them too good?

Take away Sanders, Deymarius, CJ, and Daniels... set the game in Foxboro and I'm guessing Patriots win by 3 scores or more.

Lmao. Says the guy in the game thread that painted the Broncos as far and away the worst of all the playoff teams this season.

 

[3quinox]

Pats can't win at Mile High. Broncos too good.

Broncos needed overtime at home to beat a receiving corps that accounted for 2 receptions and 13 yards in week one, and that makes them too good?

Take away Sanders, Deymarius, CJ, and Daniels... set the game in Foxboro and I'm guessing Patriots win by 3 scores or more.

Daniels is no Gronk and it's a new qb vs tom brady? Not sure it's the best comparison. But yes, if you take away any teams major weapons and make them play an away game, you're probably gonna lose.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Pats can't win at Mile High. Broncos too good.

Broncos needed overtime at home to beat a receiving corps that accounted for 2 receptions and 13 yards in week one, and that makes them too good?

Take away Sanders, Deymarius, CJ, and Daniels... set the game in Foxboro and I'm guessing Patriots win by 3 scores or more.

Broncos were missing some key defensive players and their starting QB (albeit missing Manning could be considered a plus).

 

[ShamrockPride]

My favorite thing to do, after the first Patriots loss of the season, is go lurk the game thread on Sons of Sam Horn. The one from the game where Brady was out for the season in the first quarter of the first game was epic.

The first Super Bowl loss to the Giants is a classic I still love to re-read every so often.

Last night's thread is similarly awesome. Starting from right before the Gronk injury on page 41 through the end. A work of message board art.

Link on the super bowl thread?

 

[gcoast3]

QB's played this year:

1. Roethlisberger- Win

2. T. Taylor - win

3. Bortles - win

4. Weeden - win

5. Luck - win

6. Fitzpatrick - win

7. Tannehill - win

8. Cousins - win

9. E Manning - win

10. T. Taylor - win

11. Osweiller - loss

12. Bradford - loss

13. Hoyer - win

14. Mettenberger - win

15. Fitzpatrick - loss

Not very impressive list of QB's. The Redskins at 8-7 are the only team that has made the playoffs. Very weak schedule.

 

[ShamrockPride]

This isn't news. The Patriots regular season schedule has never been impressive since Tom has been starting. AFC lEast.

 

[gcoast3]

1 penalty today for 7 yards. The Patriots sure play mistake-free football.

 

[Tool]

Nope.

You know they haven't been undefeated for about 6 weeks right?