Will Tim Tebow (1 Viewer)

[David Yudkin]

All TD = 6 points. 1 pt = 20 yds passing. 1 pt = 10 yards rushing. You can even use decimal scoring if that matters any.

Some think he won't play at all this year. Some think he will bomb. Others feel he will be great. Some suggest that he could start at some point later this season. That's about as broad a range you can get.

But will he have at least one game this year scoring 20 or more fantasy points?

 

[Mike]

Preseason count?

 

[TitansFan10]

Yes he will, he will come in on a trick play and throw a bomb for a TD there is 10 points, then in that game if he had a couple rushes and a rushing TD I think it could happen pretty easily.

Not because he is their number one guy or a great starter but because he will be an explosive playmaker on gadget plays which can score TD's.

 

[SSOG]

I voted no. Personally, I don't think he's going to get the start this year. McDaniels doesn't keep adding greybeards on defense (see: Williams, Jamaal) because he thinks they're really going to help him 2-3 years from now. He's adding them because, right or wrong, he thinks he can win TODAY. The only way I'd expect to see Tebow start is if Denver is way, way out of it... and given San Diego's contract problems I just don't think SD is going to run away from Denver this year.

So, operating under the assumption that Tebow doesn't start, he'd basically need a 3-TD game as a backup in order to hit the 20 point threshold... and I just don't see it happening. I could see up to 2 TDs. I could see up to 50 yards rushing or up to 50 yards passing. Even if he hits all three of those marks in the same game, though, we're talking about 19.5 fantasy points. I think 20 is out of reach for him as a backup.

If he becomes a starter, though, all bets are off. A 150/1 30/1 game would get Tebow over the 20 point threshold, and I don't think that's a lot to ask for at all.

 

[Blackjacks]

The question could have asked if he would score 10 instead of 20 and I still would have sail "NO".

 

[Chase Stuart]

Number of unique quarterbacks to score 20 FP in at least one game in every year over the last 40 years:

2009	462008	422007	532006	482005	462004	472003	492002	492001	412000	441999	561998	501997	461996	471995	411994	431993	491992	491991	391990	431989	451988	471987	581986	471985	451984	481983	431982	311981	411980	351979	381978	351977	311976	391975	381974	351973	321972	331971	371970	34

 

[Raider Nation]

Does Denver have Ole Miss on the schedule?

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I'm going to vote NO.

I don't think he plays much if any. I do think Denver will struggle this year so it's possible Denver's pressured late in the season to see Tebow in the game. I don't think he'll be completely ready at that time and what will be a struggling passing attack for Qb's Orton and Quinn, will also be there for Tebow late in the season if he indeed gets in then.

 

[radballs]

That is surprising Chase. I didn't think the numbers would be that high in each of those years. I would have thought it would have been around 37-40 QBs. Thanks for doing the data mining there.

Still, I would vote no on Tebow for this year mostly because of the points SSOG made earlier.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Voted Yes, the kid has serious spunk.

 

[Jayrod]

I think he reaches 10 pts several times, but tops out around 15 pts this season. I just don't see a scenario where he reaches 20.

 

[SSOG]

Number of unique quarterbacks to score 20 FP in at least one game in every year over the last 40 years:

Out of curiosity, how many QBs have scored 20 FP in a game that they didn't start? I think that's what this really hinges upon. If Tebow is the QB1 at any point, then 20 FP is a very, very low threshold to reach. If he's not, then it's a very, very high threshold to reach.

 

[Mile High]

If he plays much this year it will only be inside the red zone. Maybe even just on first and goal situations. So no on 20 unless he runs in 3 TDs

 

[Lab]

I'm voting yes purely on the strength of Chase's analysis. Those numbers suggest that roughly half the teams have a #2 QB playing one game at some point in the season. Maybe a little less than half if you assume 1-2 teams will go through 3+ QBs instead of just 2. Some teams are almost sure to face a switch for at least one game: AZ, Buf, Car, Cle, Sea, StL, and maybe KC, Oak, TN as well. But I'm seeing the shaky Denver o-line, a lack of WRs, and Kyle Orton's ultimate mediocrity as conspiring to get Tebow at least a half game where he can put up some points.

 

[David Yudkin]

IIRC, the Broncos did not have anyone but a primary starter score 20 fantasy points in 2007, 2008, or 2009. Cutler did it in 2006, but he had been inserted as the starter for the last month of the season.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Kyle Orton had 7 games over 20 points last season...

 

[Comer]

Does Denver have Ole Miss on the schedule?

If fact yes they do twice. October 24th and December 19th

 

[David Yudkin]

Kyle Orton had 7 games over 20 points last season...

As the primary starter. They haven't had a backup QB score 20 points in a game in quite a while.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Kyle Orton had 7 games over 20 points last season...

As the primary starter. They haven't had a backup QB score 20 points in a game in quite a while.

True but Kyle Orton isn't exactly the type of QB that will sustain his job for a long time. He could lose it midseason if the Broncos fall apart(that's what i'm guessing).

 

[massraider]

Does Denver have Ole Miss on the schedule?

If fact yes they do twice. October 24th and December 19th

Actually, the Raiders beat the Broncos last time they played, and the gap has closed a bit and........................wait a second.Is that a Lions logo under your avatar?

 

[moleculo]

I think Tebow will be a better NFL QB than a fantasy QB, in 2010 and beyond. At some point, he will have 20 point games but not now.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Does Denver have Ole Miss on the schedule?

If fact yes they do twice. October 24th and December 19th

Actually, the Raiders beat the Broncos last time they played, and the gap has closed a bit and........................wait a second.Is that a Lions logo under your avatar?

If Oak is Mississippi, Det is Kentucky.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Does Denver have Ole Miss on the schedule?

If fact yes they do twice. October 24th and December 19th

Actually, the Raiders beat the Broncos last time they played, and the gap has closed a bit and........................wait a second.Is that a Lions logo under your avatar?

If Oak is Mississippi, Det is Kentucky.

(Waiting for who will be Miss St)

 

[Comer]

Does Denver have Ole Miss on the schedule?

If fact yes they do twice. October 24th and December 19th

Actually, the Raiders beat the Broncos last time they played, and the gap has closed a bit and........................wait a second.Is that a Lions logo under your avatar?

The Lions have more talent than The Raiders do, so if the gap has closed between the Raiders and Broncos, I don't have much faith in Denver this season.

 

[Raider Nation]

The Lions have more talent than The Raiders do.

Go ahead and break that down for us.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

The Lions have more talent than The Raiders do, so if the gap has closed between the Raiders and Broncos, I don't have much faith in Denver this season.

QB- RaidersRB- RaidersWR-LionsTE-RaidersOL-evenDL-evenLB-RaidersDB-RaidersST-evenThe Raiders are better IMO.

 

[Comer]

QB- Lions

RB- Raiders

WR- Lions

TE- Lions

OL- Even

DL-Lions

LB- Raiders

DB- Raiders

ST- Lions

 

[Raider Nation]

QB- Lions

RB- Raiders

WR- Lions

TE- Lions

OL- Even

DL-Lions

LB- Raiders

DB- Raiders

ST- Lions

lolEDIT: I shouldn't be so dismissive. Just a bit lazy tonight.

I'll debate the return game with you, but I don't see how ST gets much better than Jano and Lechler.

 

[Comer]

QB- Lions

RB- Raiders

WR- Lions

TE- Lions

OL- Even

DL-Lions

LB- Raiders

DB- Raiders

ST- Lions

lolEDIT: I shouldn't be so dismissive. Just a bit lazy tonight.

I'll debate the return game with you, but I don't see how ST gets much better than Jano and Lechler.

Lions returns much much better. Lechler I will give you. I will take Hanson all day and twice on Sunday over the Fat Poonchkie

 

[Raider Nation]

QB- Lions

RB- Raiders

WR- Lions

TE- Lions

OL- Even

DL-Lions

LB- Raiders

DB- Raiders

ST- Lions

lolEDIT: I shouldn't be so dismissive. Just a bit lazy tonight.

I'll debate the return game with you, but I don't see how ST gets much better than Jano and Lechler.

Lions returns much much better. Lechler I will give you. I will take Hanson all day and twice on Sunday over the Fat Poonchkie

What is Hanson's range these days? 28 yards?

 

[Raider Nation]

Sorry for the hijack, Yudkin. The Lions fan started it!

 

[Comer]

QB- Lions

RB- Raiders

WR- Lions

TE- Lions

OL- Even

DL-Lions

LB- Raiders

DB- Raiders

ST- Lions

lolEDIT: I shouldn't be so dismissive. Just a bit lazy tonight.

I'll debate the return game with you, but I don't see how ST gets much better than Jano and Lechler.

Lions returns much much better. Lechler I will give you. I will take Hanson all day and twice on Sunday over the Fat Poonchkie

What is Hanson's range these days? 28 yards?

Hanson has 50+ yard leg still. Has Jano Stopped 30 yard knuckelballs yet?

 

[Raider Nation]

QB- Lions

RB- Raiders

WR- Lions

TE- Lions

OL- Even

DL-Lions

LB- Raiders

DB- Raiders

ST- Lions

lolEDIT: I shouldn't be so dismissive. Just a bit lazy tonight.

I'll debate the return game with you, but I don't see how ST gets much better than Jano and Lechler.

Lions returns much much better. Lechler I will give you. I will take Hanson all day and twice on Sunday over the Fat Poonchkie

What is Hanson's range these days? 28 yards?

Hanson has 50+ yard leg still. Has Jano Stopped 30 yard knuckelballs yet?

26-29 last year, including 6-8 from 50+ and a long of 61. Two of the misses were 57 yards and 67 yards.Yep.... knuckleballs.

 

[David Yudkin]

Sorry for the hijack, Yudkin. The Lions fan started it!

It's always amusing to see two ugly chicks arguing that they should have won the beauty contest.

 

[Raider Nation]

Sorry for the hijack, Yudkin. The Lions fan started it!

It's always amusing to see two ugly chicks arguing that they should have won the beauty contest.

Tell me about all the Patriots games you attended during the Hugh Millen era. Shouldn't take long.

 

[SSOG]

If Oak is Mississippi, Det is Kentucky.

I'm curious who is Florida State, since that's the team that Tebow *REALLY* beat up on.

 

[NorrisB]

Does Denver have Ole Miss on the schedule?

or The Citadel

 

[Summer Wheat]

Denver has too much invested in TT not to give him the chance to at least scores some TDs. I can see TT having a game where he gets 2-3 rushing TDs from inside the 5. Add that in with 20-50 rushing and passing yards and you have 20.

 

[Toads]

This content could be big on page #166 of the "Dynasty Catch All/Strategy Discussion" thread. It brings it.....all.

 

[Bri]

How many did Matt Jones have?

 

[MDSkinner]

Bumping only because the guy scored 23 points in one of my leagues and 25 in another. So he did this much, though just barely.

ETA results when I bumped.

Yes [ 64 ] [35.96%]

No [ 114 ] [64.04%]

 

[NorrisB]

QB- Lions

RB- Raiders

WR- Lions

TE- Lions

OL- Even

DL-Lions

LB- Raiders

DB- Raiders

ST- Lions

This looks fine with the exception of TE which is close but Raiders are better there.

 

[Saints-Man]

All TD = 6 points. 1 pt = 20 yds passing. 1 pt = 10 yards rushing. You can even use decimal scoring if that matters any.Some think he won't play at all this year. Some think he will bomb. Others feel he will be great. Some suggest that he could start at some point later this season. That's about as broad a range you can get.But will he have at least one game this year scoring 20 or more fantasy points?

60% of the respondents got it wrong. Using the above scoring method(even without negative points for INTs), Tebow scored 29 points yesterday. Also, he scored 25 points last week.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Kyle Orton had 7 games over 20 points last season...

As the primary starter. They haven't had a backup QB score 20 points in a game in quite a while.

True but Kyle Orton isn't exactly the type of QB that will sustain his job for a long time. He could lose it midseason if the Broncos fall apart(that's what i'm guessing).

 

[gianmarco]

Make that 3 games of 20+. In 3 starts.

 

[shadyridr]

Is he a QB1 next year?

 

[mquinnjr]

Is he a QB1 next year?

I look at him, and want him on my team. Since it's Week 17, you won't have alot of people watching him closely from a fantasy perspective. What I saw was a guy who can get points on the ground and in the air for you, and did so well in the last 2 weeks and against a solid Chargers D today. I am going to follow him closely in camp in 2011, but I think he's a sneaky QB1 pickup late if he's available. Will be interested to see where people are placing him in mock drafts. I think he's a slower-on-the-ground Vick. Not as fast, and not proven like Vick this season in the air. Thus why you might be able to buy low on him in a later draft round. Vick will go early-mid 1st round I predict, as he should. But while his upside is amazing, he's an injury risk and you hope teams "are not figuring out" Michael Vick. Also, Vick fits the Eagles, but if he does not sign there/they do not franchise tag him (who knows if it will even exist in 2011 with the new CBA), I might become even more skeptical on Vick. I see Tebow as a "Poor Man's Vick," and someone I actually consider planning on taking over Vick so as to afford myself a RB1 of 1st round quality and not compromise that with the all eggs in one basket play on Vick, as he's a surefire lock to be a high 1st round pick in almost every league out there.

 

[Instinctive]

Kyle Orton had 7 games over 20 points last season...

As the primary starter. They haven't had a backup QB score 20 points in a game in quite a while.

True but Kyle Orton isn't exactly the type of QB that will sustain his job for a long time. He could lose it midseason if the Broncos fall apart(that's what i'm guessing).

Look, I had no horse here, but that post doesn't count as a hit. Orton had a rib injury, was out for 2 of the last 3 games, and they decided to let Tebow continue to start when Orton was healed in week 17.