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70% of US adults now have received at least one shot.
Pretty sure in the litigious society we live in today there is zero chance of that happening. It's kinda been proven that they are safe but there has still been folks that have passed away even with being vaccinated. If you think that one of any of the thousands of families this applies to wouldn't sue a big pharma company you live in a different reality than I do.How about not having to sign away liability of the pharmaceutical company. If it is safe then stop this requirement.
Pretty sure this isn't unique to America. A lot of countries never removed mask requirements.Get vaccinated!
However, you still need to wear a mask, you still need to get tested, you still need to quarantine if positive, you still may get covid, and you still can spread covid.
GREAT JOB AMERICA!
Let the non-vaxers feel it in their premiums just like the smokers and the obese... and people who smoke, and people who eat too much junk, and...
PONCHATOULA, La. - The crowd inside Floyd's Family Pharmacy was abuzz with an agitated energy.
Whether arriving for scheduled COVID vaccines or testing, people were motivated in part by fear of the Delta variant taking hold across the country as well as in this stately town surrounded by lush forests, strawberry fields and swamps an hour north of New Orleans.
Head pharmacist Floyd Talley was at the center of the action, one minute donning full protective gear to carry out nasal swabs in the parking lot. The next, he was back in his white jacket, fielding questions from moms about possible COVID symptoms their children displayed.
"There is a huge uptick in the request for vaccines," Talley said. "We're back almost to how we were when the vaccine first came out."
Those lining up for jabs say many reasons had made them reluctant before, including questions about approval by the Food and Drug Administration and the loss of a sense of urgency when cases earlier started to fall. Other areas with low rates of vaccination - Louisiana has one of the lowest in the country - would be wise to recognize that motives can be mixed, doctors here said, and find innovative ways to address concerns.
Nobody in Ponchatoula is even considering a vaccine mandate - that would likely lead to a counterproductive backlash in this deeply conservative patch of a deeply red state.
Instead, local leaders have made it less convenient to pass up vaccination with such measures as a recent schools' directive that unvaccinated teachers and students exposed to the virus would be forced to quarantine, with teachers not receiving any extra sick days as they did last year.
Louisiana State University said unvaccinated students would have to provide monthly proof of a negative coronavirus test. Pharmacist Talley said the prospect of that regular inconvenience prompted a rush of college kids to start coming for the vaccine.
While none of these measures is as straightforward and forceful as doctors in the area might want, they say they are beginning to have an impact.
lawyers are running the show here. kids must be masked up, as of now. regardless of vaccination status.The lack of clarity from my kids school on covid stuff is frustrating. They are "considering all options". It sounds as if vaccinated kids will be given some leeway though.
We are 2 weeks out from start of school and none of the schools in this area have announced anything that I've seen. I'm guessing they're watching our numbers climb and scrambling for plans.The lack of clarity from my kids school on covid stuff is frustrating. They are "considering all options". It sounds as if vaccinated kids will be given some leeway though.
For George L. Davis, a bishop at Impact Church in Jacksonville, getting vaccinated against the coronavirus was an act of faith. He says that he believes in divine creation, and that the shot is a miracle — a sign of God guiding scientists in their attempts to curb a devastating virus.
Yet, for his nondenominational congregation, the provenance of a lifesaving tool was not as obvious.
The hesitancy was clear from the beginning. When cases surged, some of Davis’s congregation, which numbers more than 6,000 parishioners, had a different idea of the pandemic’s effects.
One spat back false information to the pastor. Others did not trust government and health officials. Davis said he tried to bridge the gap — enacting safety measures from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, encouraging vaccinations when doses were made available, and discussing the virus on social media.
Still, he said, some did not listen. Six of the church’s members, Davis said, died of covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, in 10 days. Four of them were healthy and younger than 35; all were unvaccinated.
“It’s very frustrating knowing that these were avoidable deaths,” he said. “You also don’t want the loved ones who are left behind to feel horrible and don’t want to seem like I’m putting guilt onto them, but the reality is, I know that these people would still be here had they gotten the shot.”
It was the devastation that “emboldened” Davis to organize a vaccination drive after each of Sunday’s three services, he said — an unusual move for a Black pastor when the pandemic has divided people across spiritual, ideological and racial lines.
While Florida is among the states with the highest infection rates during the new virus surge, Davis’s attempts underscore widespread vaccine hesitancy and the ongoing debate between science and some religious leaders — one that has been especially exacerbated by the pandemic.
There have been a lot of news stories recently about people who died after either refusing to get the vaccine or simply not getting around to it. In most of these cases either the people themselves or their surviving family members ended up putting out impassioned pleas to the public to get vaccinated so as to avoid their fate.
I thought it might be useful to collect these stories in one place, as I haven’t seen that done anywhere. Each one is arresting in its own right, and the sheer totality of them is kind of overwhelming. Our brains our wired to make us respond more to individual narratives than to massive datasets (“a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic” etc. etc.), so feel free to share this list with the vaccine-hesitant people in your life.
This list is necessarily incomplete so if you know of any stories that I missed drop me a message in the comments below, which are open to everyone. I’ve only included cases where news outlets are able to confirm that the victim is unvaccinated, and where the person’s identity is confirmed (there are many stories, for instance, about pastors talking about unvaccinated parishioners who died, or of doctors talking about their unvaccinated patients in the ICU). This list also excludes many stories of people who survived Covid and have since urged others to get vaccinated.
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Doctors on the industry networking site Doximity are finding their news feed inundated with anti-vaccine comments from fellow physicians.
“You rarely get to the level of microchips in vaccines, but a lot of this stuff is pretty close to it,” said Dr. Paul Malarik, a retired psychiatrist who now volunteers with Covid-19 vaccine administration.
Doximity held its IPO in June and is now valued at over $10 billion.
Here's my proposal: Anyone vaxxed or of other injury type goes to a normal hospital. Anyone unvaxxed who requires covid treatment is attended to by doctors spreading vaccine disinformation.
A man who died with Covid after refusing to be vaccinated made a "terrible mistake" which put his family at risk, his partner has said.
Leslie Lawrenson, 58, died at his home in Bournemouth, Dorset, on 2 July.
His partner Amanda Mitchell, 56, who was seriously ill with Covid at the same time, said he thought the vaccines were too "experimental". She told the Stephen Nolan programme on BBC Radio 5 live: "I feel incredibly foolish. Les died unnecessarily."
Ms Mitchell said her partner, a Cambridge University graduate, decided against having a coronavirus jab after reading material on social media. She said: "It was a daily thing that he said to us: 'You don't need to have it, you'll be fine, just be careful.'
"He said to me: 'It's a gene thing, an experimental thing. You're putting something in your body that hasn't been thoroughly tested.'
"Les was highly educated... so if he told me something, I tended to believe it."
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Daughter Carla Hodges, 35, said: "[Leslie] was so brainwashed by the stuff that he was seeing on YouTube and social media. "He said: 'A lot of people will die more from having the vaccine than getting Covid.'"
Ms Mitchell said she would be having the vaccine as soon as doctors declared her fit enough.
Music company AEG Presents is looking to ensure that patrons at their venues and festivals stay COVID-free.
In an announcement Thursday, Coachella and Goldenvoice (AEG Presents) shared that attendees will be required to show full proof of vaccination before entering events they host starting Oct. 1.
"Goldenvoice will require proof of full vaccination for concertgoers and event staff at all of our venues and festivals," the statement read. "The vaccination policy, limited only as required by law, will be in full effect nationwide no later than October 1, 2021."
Until then, fans will be able to either show proof of vaccination or negative COVID test within 72 hours of the show date.
Among the venues are the El Rey Theater, Terminal 5, The Fonda Theatre, The Regency Ballroom, Webster Hall and The Roxy. AEG is also charged with festivals such as Stagecoach, the Buckeye Country Superfest, Camp Flog Gnaw, Day N Vegas, Firefly Music Festival, Hangout Music Festival and the New Orleans Jazz and Heritage Festival.
"Just a few weeks ago, we were optimistic about where our business, and country, were heading," AEG Presents CEO Jay Marciano said in a release announcing the changes. "The Delta variant, combined with vaccine hesitancy, is pushing us in the wrong direction again."
Love this in theory, but how hard can it be for people to show fake cards? That said, every festival and many outdoor shows are going this direction probably in part because of the Lollapalooza #s, which were great and hopeful. From a business perspective a complete no brainer IMO. They can’t afford to be shutdown again.Coachella, Other Goldenvoice Events and Venues to Require 'Proof of Full Vaccination' This Fall (People magazine/Yahoo, 8/12/2021)
Thank goodness.I’m currently in HI. Masks are definitely being enforced.
Here's my proposal: Anyone vaxxed or of other injury type goes to a normal hospital. Anyone unvaxxed who requires covid treatment is attended to by doctors spreading vaccine disinformation.
ETA: With exception of < 18 of course.
Covid vaccine refuser died after terrible mistake, says partner (BBC, 8/5/2021)
A man who died with Covid after refusing to be vaccinated made a "terrible mistake" which put his family at risk, his partner has said.
Leslie Lawrenson, 58, died at his home in Bournemouth, Dorset, on 2 July.
His partner Amanda Mitchell, 56, who was seriously ill with Covid at the same time, said he thought the vaccines were too "experimental". She told the Stephen Nolan programme on BBC Radio 5 live: "I feel incredibly foolish. Les died unnecessarily."
Ms Mitchell said her partner, a Cambridge University graduate, decided against having a coronavirus jab after reading material on social media. She said: "It was a daily thing that he said to us: 'You don't need to have it, you'll be fine, just be careful.'
"He said to me: 'It's a gene thing, an experimental thing. You're putting something in your body that hasn't been thoroughly tested.'
"Les was highly educated... so if he told me something, I tended to believe it."
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Daughter Carla Hodges, 35, said: "[Leslie] was so brainwashed by the stuff that he was seeing on YouTube and social media. "He said: 'A lot of people will die more from having the vaccine than getting Covid.'"
Ms Mitchell said she would be having the vaccine as soon as doctors declared her fit enough.
We just finished week 2 - we’ve gotten about 8 notices of COVID positive classmates for our two still in school (both vaxxed). They report basically nobody is wearing mask, lots of kids out sick and we are not doing contact tracing. Kid sitting next to you has Covid - no worries, come to school. Your family has Covid - no worries, come to school. It’s complete idiocy. We may get to herd immunity yet - scared what it will take to get there though.We are 2 weeks out from start of school and none of the schools in this area have announced anything that I've seen. I'm guessing they're watching our numbers climb and scrambling for plans.
Same here, except I have only one kid in high school. Each day this week, they've texted parents with "We've had a COVID case on campus". Today, they sent two of those texts, and it wasn't a duplicate.We just finished week 2 - we’ve gotten about 8 notices of COVID positive classmates for our two still in school (both vaxxed).
It’s completely baffling to me that we can’t require masks and do contact tracing. The decisions makers are morons.Same here, except I have only one kid in high school. Each day this week, they've texted parents with "We've had a COVID case on campus". Today, they sent two of those texts, and it wasn't a duplicate.
They sent home about 60 kids between Monday and Tuesday for close-contact quarantining, including my son Tuesday. He missed school Wednesday because we weren't notified until that afternoon that vaccinated kids didn't have to quarantine. The school didn't have a copy of his vaccination card -- I rectified that in short order.
His high school has a hard mask mandate for staff and students, but fairly few of the kids are vaccinated. A lot of kids have their noses out and otherwise wear the masks irresponsibly when they can get away with it.
My son said the last two days, they're still calling out long lists of names over the intercom to be immediately sent home for COVID quarantine. This is not a mega-school -- quarantining several dozen kids is something like 1/3 of the student body.
Forget what a kick this thing is. Hoping I only have to do this every year and the side effects scale down.Just got the mRNA supplemental at SF General. Let's see what this JNJ/Moderna combo can do/stop. Not looking forwarding to the chills in 12 hours though.
Without getting into much detail, there's a lot of questionable stuff in that story. That seems very unlikely to be vaccine related at all.This story might keep some people away from the vaccine. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/media/ohio-woman-daughter-covid-vaccine-reaction-wheelchair.amp
It’s completely baffling to me that we can’t require masks and do contact tracing. The decisions makers are morons.
Just sad to see. I have no idea what she has but it’s just a shame that Carlson and the mom are going to get people killed. This is 100% about trying to get people to not vaccinate. It’s just so sad that we were in such a great position to kick CV out of the US but we couldn’t because of politics.Without getting into much detail, there's a lot of questionable stuff in that story. That seems very unlikely to be vaccine related at all.
But remember…..Tucker isn’t anti-vax. We’ve been reminded of that in here over and over.Just sad to see. I have no idea what she has but it’s just a shame that Carlson and the mom are going to get people killed. This is 100% about trying to get people to not vaccinate. It’s just so sad that we were in such a great position to kick CV out of the US but we couldn’t because of politics.
One thing buried in the story that truly irks me is Facebook and social media. The contribution that Facebook has made to this pandemic has truly killed people, no question.
Here's a hint. When someone refuses to say whether they've been vaccinated, it means they've been vaccinated but want to discourage others from getting vaccinated.But remember…..Tucker isn’t anti-vax. We’ve been reminded of that in here over and over.
There's a reason the nuts obsess with the tiny fraction of media who don't go along with everything the government tells them, while never questioning the 95% of media, government bureaucrats and lifelong politicians who all repeat the same thing. Some people are incapable of thinking independently and want everyone who disagrees with the norm silenced.Just sad to see. I have no idea what she has but it’s just a shame that Carlson and the mom are going to get people killed. This is 100% about trying to get people to not vaccinate. It’s just so sad that we were in such a great position to kick CV out of the US but we couldn’t because of politics.
One thing buried in the story that truly irks me is Facebook and social media. The contribution that Facebook has made to this pandemic has truly killed people, no question.
Over 6 months after he's out of office and still obsessed with Trump. Rarely hear a peep from the Trump haters about Biden. Still the same old thing. Tucker, Trump, and a handful of other folks are the reason for all the world's problems. Not the lifelong politicians or 95% of media who are in lockstep deluded your mind and convincing you that other Americans are the problem and not the people in charge for decades.Trump and Covid are going to be the root cause of an actual Civil War
When it comes to the anti-vax, anti-mask crowd there’s good reason why Trump gets brought up…it’s his people. During his presidency he decided that COVID restrictions and mitigation efforts would something he and his supporters would rage against. That legacy continues today with politicians, especially governors in the south continuing what he started in an effort to win support from his base. If you don’t understand why this keeps pointing back at Trump and not Biden, I don’t know what to tell you.Over 6 months after he's out of office and still obsessed with Trump. Rarely hear a peep from the Trump haters about Biden. Still the same old thing. Tucker, Trump, and a handful of other folks are the reason for all the world's problems. Not the lifelong politicians or 95% of media who are in lockstep deluded your mind and convincing you that other Americans are the problem and not the people in charge for decades.
I’ve had two different people tell me that they’ve had family members have a similar reaction. In one case, a 32 yr old woman previously healthy now is partially paralyzed. The guy that told me is personally very pro vaccine and had no complications but is obviously very saddened by what happened to his cousin.Without getting into much detail, there's a lot of questionable stuff in that story. That seems very unlikely to be vaccine related at all.
Over 6 months after he's out of office and still obsessed with Trump. Rarely hear a peep from the Trump haters about Biden. Still the same old thing. Tucker, Trump, and a handful of other folks are the reason for all the world's problems. Not the lifelong politicians or 95% of media who are in lockstep deluded your mind and convincing you that other Americans are the problem and not the people in charge for decades.
There are very rare cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome which causes paralysis after the vaccine (and other vaccines). I'll take you at your word, but considering we are dealing with third party reporting here, it would be absolutely extraordinary for you to know about one case personally. To know about two, well....I’ve had two different people tell me that they’ve had family members have a similar reaction. In one case, a 32 yr old woman previously healthy now is partially paralyzed. The guy that told me is personally very pro vaccine and had no complications but is obviously very saddened by what happened to his cousin.
If you expand this statement to both sides of the aisle, and include the other side of the media, you’re on to something.Over 6 months after he's out of office and still obsessed with Trump. Rarely hear a peep from the Trump haters about Biden. Still the same old thing. Tucker, Trump, and a handful of other folks are the reason for all the world's problems. Not the lifelong politicians or 95% of media who are in lockstep deluded your mind and convincing you that other Americans are the problem and not the people in charge for decades.
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Today, I signed CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices’ (ACIP) recommendation that endorsed the use of an additional dose of COVID-19 vaccine for people with moderately to severely compromised immune systems after an initial two-dose vaccine series.
Just got the call for my two girls to enroll in the Pfizer study for 5-12 year olds. Couldn't say yes fast enough.
Getting the jab in 2 weeks. 66% chance of getting the vaccine. Will be unblinded once FDA gets approval so will get it either way.
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How do you get this callJust got the call for my two girls to enroll in the Pfizer study for 5-12 year olds. Couldn't say yes fast enough.
Getting the jab in 2 weeks. 66% chance of getting the vaccine. Will be unblinded once FDA gets approval so will get it either way.
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How did sign up for it? I was hoping that they would open it up to my 5 year old this fall, but now that that's looking like a pipedream, I may be looking to get into the study.Just got the call for my two girls to enroll in the Pfizer study for 5-12 year olds. Couldn't say yes fast enough.
Getting the jab in 2 weeks. 66% chance of getting the vaccine. Will be unblinded once FDA gets approval so will get it either way.
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How do you get this call
There's a local research facility here that has been doing the trials since it started (plus other clinical trials). My son was in it. I signed up the girls and unfortunately they were only given a handful of spots so they didn't get in. They apparently are opening up more spots so they called me.How did sign up for it? I was hoping that they would open it up to my 5 year old this fall, but now that that's looking like a pipedream, I may be looking to get into the study.