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Will you get a Covid vaccine when available? (1 Viewer)

Will you get a Covid vaccine when available?

  • Yes, as soon as it comes out

    Votes: 236 55.4%

  • Yes, but not for a while until some time passes

    Votes: 93 21.8%

  • No, I don't think it will be safe

    Votes: 19 4.5%

  • No, I don't think it will be effective

    Votes: 5 1.2%

  • No, I already had Covid

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Unsure, but leaning yes

    Votes: 32 7.5%

  • Unsure, but leaning no

    Votes: 28 6.6%
  • Total voters
    426
Willy said:
PSA for immunocompromised:  https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0813-additional-mRNA-mrna-dose.html

As it turns out I had an appointment with my doctor this morning and he said I should get the booster asap, as I fall into one of the groups for which it's now approved.  I checked with my local Walgreens and their systems can't process the booster yet but it should be ready in a day or 2.  So if you or a loved one qualifies, the booster is literally right around the corner, like this week. 
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I gave my first booster yesterday. If you really want to get it, I’m sure another pharmacy would do it. I was slow to say yes to patients just because I wanted to understand the restrictions but pharmacies are able to give it since the ACIP recommendations came out on Friday.

 
Biff84 said:
I gave my first booster yesterday. If you really want to get it, I’m sure another pharmacy would do it. I was slow to say yes to patients just because I wanted to understand the restrictions but pharmacies are able to give it since the ACIP recommendations came out on Friday.
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Is there an amount of time (x weeks, months) needed to take from 2nd shot to booster?

 
Nathan R. Jessep said:
from the CDC link above:

The additional dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine should be the same vaccine as the initial series and administered at least four weeks after completing a primary mRNA COVID-19 vaccine series.
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Ok, thanks. I called my diabetic doctors office a while ago and the head nurse said she wasn't sure. She thought it was 6 months.  I had Pfizer if it matters.

 
The Man With No Name said:
Ok, thanks. I called my diabetic doctors office a while ago and the head nurse said she wasn't sure. She thought it was 6 months.  I had Pfizer if it matters.
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Check with your doc, but diabetes alone may not qualify you. Here's the conditions per the CDC guidelines for what's in place currently (and what the aforementioned '4-weeks post 2nd dose' above applies to):

  • Been receiving active cancer treatment for tumors or cancers of the blood
  • Received an organ transplant and are taking medicine to suppress the immune system
  • Received a stem cell transplant within the last 2 years or are taking medicine to suppress the immune system
  • Moderate or severe primary immunodeficiency (such as DiGeorge syndrome, Wiskott-Aldrich syndrome)
  • Advanced or untreated HIV infection
  • Active treatment with high-dose corticosteroids or other drugs that may suppress your immune response
 
PIK95 said:
Is there a booster if you got the J&J?
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So far only for Pfizer and Moderna. From that same link above (well, link from that link actually...CDC guideline page):

There is not enough data at this time to determine whether immunocompromised people who received the Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen COVID-19 vaccine also have an improved antibody response following an additional dose of the same vaccine.

 
Nathan R. Jessep said:
Check with your doc, but diabetes alone may not qualify you. Here's the conditions per the CDC guidelines for what's in place currently (and what the aforementioned '4-weeks post 2nd dose' above applies to):

  • Been receiving active cancer treatment for tumors or cancers of the blood
  • Received an organ transplant and are taking medicine to suppress the immune system
  • Received a stem cell transplant within the last 2 years or are taking medicine to suppress the immune system
  • Moderate or severe primary immunodeficiency (such as DiGeorge syndrome, Wiskott-Aldrich syndrome)
  • Advanced or untreated HIV infection
  • Active treatment with high-dose corticosteroids or other drugs that may suppress your immune response
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During some of the discussion at FDA or CDC that specifically singled out diabetes and heart disease as conditions that would not be included. I consider it more a continuation of the original dosing for a small part of the population rather than the booster people will get after 8 months.

 
Biff84 said:
I gave my first booster yesterday. If you really want to get it, I’m sure another pharmacy would do it. I was slow to say yes to patients just because I wanted to understand the restrictions but pharmacies are able to give it since the ACIP recommendations came out on Friday.
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I'm all set now.  Walgreens was set up and accepting patients for the booster today. 

Now, a couple of points about the booster process:

1. The recommendation is to get a 3rd dose of whichever of Pfizer/Moderna vaccine you originally received.  They asked which I already had and that's what they give me.

2. My doctor had supplied a letter noting the applicable condition.  They didn't look at it.  It's self report - on you honor.  

3. t's looking like the booster will be ready for anyone 8 months post original vaccine as soon as next month.  I wish it were a little sooner.  Those first responders and heath care workers are still working with covid patients  every day.

 
Willy said:
I'm all set now.  Walgreens was set up and accepting patients for the booster today. 

Now, a couple of points about the booster process:

1. The recommendation is to get a 3rd dose of whichever of Pfizer/Moderna vaccine you originally received.  They asked which I already had and that's what they give me.

2. My doctor had supplied a letter noting the applicable condition.  They didn't look at it.  It's self report - on you honor.  

3. t's looking like the booster will be ready for anyone 8 months post original vaccine as soon as next month.  I wish it were a little sooner.  Those first responders and heath care workers are still working with covid patients  every day.
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They will be eligible once it’s approved. We’re right at 8 months after the first vaccines were given.

 
Apologies if this was posted already but this is a good site to look at vaccine data by state and there's some good comparison tools.

Here's the link for Georgia.  https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/state/georgia

Some things that jump out to me:

  • Stating the obvious but we kind of suck right now in general - across almost all demographics (48% one dose, 39% both doses)
  • Latino, African American are at 20 and 25% respectively in vaccination rate. 
  • As expected - as you go down in age the vaccination rate really goes down.  20-44 years are at about 30%
I'm not sure what it will take but most likely we will need businesses, schools and events require vaccination to make any kind of big change in our numbers.  It does seem like we need a minority focus - Out of ~4.5M minorities only about ~1.2M are vaccinated.

 
Ilov80s said:
Was there any special process for getting the third shot?
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He just called his doctor and verified it was recommended for him.  After that he went to the local grocery store pharmacy, showed his immunization card, told then he was immunocompromised and that was it.

He said there was only one other person getting vaccinated and it took all of 10 minutes

 
Godsbrother said:
He just called his doctor and verified it was recommended for him.  After that he went to the local grocery store pharmacy, showed his immunization card, told then he was immunocompromised and that was it.

He said there was only one other person getting vaccinated and it took all of 10 minutes
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Thanks, I appreciate it. 

 
Biden to require COVID vaccines for nursing home staff (AP, 8/18/2021)

President Joe Biden on Wednesday announced that his administration will require that nursing home staff be vaccinated against COVID-19 as a condition for those facilities to continue receiving federal Medicare and Medicaid funding.

Biden unveiled the new policy Wednesday afternoon in a White House address as the administration continues to look for ways to use mandates to encourage vaccine holdouts to get shots.

“If you visit, live or work in a nursing home, you should not be at a high risk for contracting COVID from unvaccinated employees,” Biden said.

The new mandate, in the form of a forthcoming regulation to be issued by the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, could take effect as soon as next month.
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Around here, some of these nursing homes will be left with something like 1/3 the staff they had previously unless some minds get to changing.

 
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I thought the CDC said the booster would not be available until sometime in September? Are people getting third doses and referring to them as boosters?

 
DallasDMac said:
I thought the CDC said the booster would not be available until sometime in September? Are people getting third doses and referring to them as boosters?
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Immunocompromised can get the booster now. For everyone else, the official recommendation is expected to begin giving third doses in September, 8 months after 2nd dose (no word on J&J boosters yet)

 
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DallasDMac said:
I thought the CDC said the booster would not be available until sometime in September? Are people getting third doses and referring to them as boosters?
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Third doses for immunocompromised people can be given now. Third doses for everyone else are supposed to be given 8 months after receipt of the second dose. 

 
Pip's Invitation said:
Third doses for immunocompromised people can be given now. Third doses for everyone else are supposed to be given 8 months after receipt of the second dose. 
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Ya the third shot is technically a supplemental and not a booster as it's no different than shot one or two. I think the media is confused on the two terms.

They haven't engineered a shot to specifically combat the new variants yet nor is there a timeline for that update.

 
Doug B said:
Biden to require COVID vaccines for nursing home staff (AP, 8/18/2021)

Around here, some of these nursing homes will be left with something like 1/3 the staff they had previously unless some minds get to changing.
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So stupid.

The people used up and burned up on the front lines for the last year..... now this?  Like they don't have the information they need to make their own decisions here?   ####ed up.  Simply ####ed up.

eta - then this turns into "NURSING HOMES/HOSPITALS OVERRUN WITH COVID" headlines

 
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Doug B said:
Biden to require COVID vaccines for nursing home staff (AP, 8/18/2021)

Around here, some of these nursing homes will be left with something like 1/3 the staff they had previously unless some minds get to changing.
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It will be fine.  They can staff it with all of the hospital staff leaving their hospital jobs over vaccine mandates.

It's in the tea leaves, you're going to have be vaccinated to work in health care.  And if you choose not to--great.  Go work at McDonalds for minimum wage.  

 
matuski said:
So stupid.

The people used up and burned up on the front lines for the last year..... now this?  Like they don't have the information they need to make their own decisions here?   ####ed up.  Simply ####ed up.

eta - then this turns into "NURSING HOMES/HOSPITALS OVERRUN WITH COVID" headlines
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I was used up and burned up on the front lines last year, and continue to be this year.  

I'd like for this thing to end.  Vaccine mandates are one way to do it.  There are a lot of reasons for health care facilities to require vaccines.

To say they have the information they need to make their own decisions:  You would think so.  But I work with people that post on facebook:  "Vaccines don't work.  Vaccines aren't safe."  And the data shows that they do work and they are safe.  So...no, they do not all have the information.

 
I wonder if there is data on fire fighters and law enforcement on vaccinated vs unvaccinated. I’m asking because in my small circle, I know five firefighters and not one is vaccinated or plans to be. I also know three police officers and not one is vaccinated or plans to be. After talking with a few of them, it seems like this is the norm for their departments. I get it’s just my small sample size, curious to know if there is real data behind this. 

 
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JShare87 said:
I wonder if there is data on fire fighters and law enforcement on vaccinated vs unvaccinated. I’m asking because in my small circle, I know five firefighters and not one is vaccinated or plans to be. I also know three police officers and not one is vaccinated or plans to be. After talking with a few of them, it seems like this is the norm for their departments. I get it’s just my small sample size, curious to know if there is real data behind this. 
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Those guys live with worse risk than covid everyday. Not surprising 

 
Doug B said:
Biden to require COVID vaccines for nursing home staff (AP, 8/18/2021)

Around here, some of these nursing homes will be left with something like 1/3 the staff they had previously unless some minds get to changing.
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Heard that on the radio this morning, thought the same thing. Lotta nursing homes gonna be running short staffed, more so than they already are.

I don't get the mentality at all but good luck with that. At some point people have to come back to work or desire to earn money again? Right? Vaccines are quickly becoming the requirement for employment like we knew it would. When/if the FDA ever gets off it's ### and approves the vaccines everyone will jump on the bandwagon and require the vaccine. Like I said, good luck to you but the government shouldn't support them via unemployment or other subsidies. 

 
jobarules said:
Those guys live with worse risk than covid everyday. Not surprising 
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It may not be surprising, but it's still dumb. Just because you take some risks doesn't mean you should willingly take more, and they do plenty of things to help mitigate the risks they have to take with their jobs (which is exactly the point of the vaccine).

 
beer 30 said:
Never really thought about that way but I guess you're right.
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I actually don't think that's right. 

I'm pretty sure if we looked at the numbers with the chances of getting Covid/getting hospitalized/dying from Covid it would end up being higher than the chances of getting hospitalized/dying in the line of work. 

 
gianmarco said:
I actually don't think that's right. 

I'm pretty sure if we looked at the numbers with the chances of getting Covid/getting hospitalized/dying from Covid it would end up being higher than the chances of getting hospitalized/dying in the line of work. 
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I suspect that they PERCIEVE that they live with worse risk every day, regardless of whether it's true. 

 
gianmarco said:
I actually don't think that's right. 

I'm pretty sure if we looked at the numbers with the chances of getting Covid/getting hospitalized/dying from Covid it would end up being higher than the chances of getting hospitalized/dying in the line of work. 
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Pip's Invitation said:
I suspect that they PERCIEVE that they live with worse risk every day, regardless of whether it's true. 
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Yea this. I'm going on some assumptions that JShare's crowd are younger, physically fit and probably have an heir of bullet-proofness about them. Not saying it in a bad way just thinking back to my time between 21-35. I was Superman and I didn't do #### compared to fireman/EMT's.

 
beer 30 said:
Heard that on the radio this morning, thought the same thing. Lotta nursing homes gonna be running short staffed, more so than they already are.

I don't get the mentality at all but good luck with that. At some point people have to come back to work or desire to earn money again? Right? Vaccines are quickly becoming the requirement for employment like we knew it would. When/if the FDA ever gets off it's ### and approves the vaccines everyone will jump on the bandwagon and require the vaccine. Like I said, good luck to you but the government shouldn't support them via unemployment or other subsidies. 
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Now there's an interesting thought experiment.  Maybe the government should require vaccinations for unemployment.  Both parties have reason to get behind such a policy.

 
Signed my (immune suppressed) wife up for a 3rd Pfizer shot as fast as I could.  The online CVS registration process even has a check box for this (booster dose).

I'll be at the front of the queue as well when my 8th months comes due.

 
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beer 30 said:
Yea this. I'm going on some assumptions that JShare's crowd are younger, physically fit and probably have an heir of bullet-proofness about them. Not saying it in a bad way just thinking back to my time between 21-35. I was Superman and I didn't do #### compared to fireman/EMT's.
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That’s a good point too. That’s why I said my small sample size. They are all mid 30s and in fairly decent shape. Was just sharing something I have been curious about. 

 
JShare87 said:
That’s a good point too. That’s why I said my small sample size. They are all mid 30s and in fairly decent shape. Was just sharing something I have been curious about. 
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where are you geographically?  the LEO and FF that i know, are vaccinated.  they work in CA and HI 

 
beer 30 said:
Yea this. I'm going on some assumptions that JShare's crowd are younger, physically fit and probably have an heir of bullet-proofness about them. Not saying it in a bad way just thinking back to my time between 21-35. I was Superman and I didn't do #### compared to fireman/EMT's.
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They don't have older parents? Grandparents? Kids to young to be vaccinated? Seems like a fairly stupid (selfish?) decision even if you don't fear for your own safety. Because there's little chance they aren't taking the virus in to their homes sooner or later.

 
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