WIS MMXI: Back to the Future Edition- Draft & Season Thread (3 Viewers)

[larry_boy_44]

Ruben Tejada - SS, NYM

Jeremy Bonderman - SP, free agent

C Bobby Wilson

OF Corey Patterson, TOR

ok, that should be 13... I think...

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Rodrigo Lopez just came in!

(Twins/Braves)

 

[rodg12]

Ruben Tejada - SS, NYMJeremy Bonderman - SP, free agentC Bobby WilsonOF Corey Patterson, TORok, that should be 13... I think...

Bobby Wilson just got drafted by BellJr...need a re-pick there.ETA: You'll need to make another pick on top of that one to make 40...

 

[jfranco77]

How many guys that are starting the season in AAA did you all end up with?

I have 5 batters (of 22) and 4 pitchers (of 18) starting the 2011 season in AAA. On top of that, I have one free-agent 1B (Troy Glaus) and one all-but-retired RP (Billy Wagner). That leaves me with 16 batters and 13 pitchers, so far, that will actually be on MLB rosters on Opening Day.

Bumped and edited. Still curious about other WIS 2011 teams' situations with this.

Jesus Montero, Eric Sogard, Robinson Chirinos, Jason Isringhausen, Josh Lueke... that might be it. And Cervelli is starting on the DL. Actually I'm not sure what's going on with Rzepcinski or Kawakami.Looks like 18 hitters starting in the majors, and about 15 pitchers.

 

[belljr]

Right - so why do we need league safe? Aren't we just signing up for WIS when it's time...

eliminate any possibility of anyone backing out after their team stinks it up

oh, I can tell you now, I'll have no clue

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

How many guys that are starting the season in AAA did you all end up with?

I have 5 batters (of 22) and 4 pitchers (of 18) starting the 2011 season in AAA. On top of that, I have one free-agent 1B (Troy Glaus) and one all-but-retired RP (Billy Wagner). That leaves me with 16 batters and 13 pitchers, so far, that will actually be on MLB rosters on Opening Day.

Bumped and edited. Still curious about other WIS 2011 teams' situations with this.

Jesus Montero, Eric Sogard, Robinson Chirinos, Jason Isringhausen, Josh Lueke... that might be it. And Cervelli is starting on the DL. Actually I'm not sure what's going on with Rzepcinski or Kawakami.Looks like 18 hitters starting in the majors, and about 15 pitchers.

Sounds like Rzep has locked up a late inning bullpen role. Kawakami is being shopped, but will start in AA if he's not moved.

 

[belljr]

How many guys that are starting the season in AAA did you all end up with?

I have 5 batters (of 22) and 4 pitchers (of 18) starting the 2011 season in AAA. On top of that, I have one free-agent 1B (Troy Glaus) and one all-but-retired RP (Billy Wagner). That leaves me with 16 batters and 13 pitchers, so far, that will actually be on MLB rosters on Opening Day.

Bumped and edited. Still curious about other WIS 2011 teams' situations with this.

Jesus Montero, Eric Sogard, Robinson Chirinos, Jason Isringhausen, Josh Lueke... that might be it. And Cervelli is starting on the DL. Actually I'm not sure what's going on with Rzepcinski or Kawakami.Looks like 18 hitters starting in the majors, and about 15 pitchers.

Good site to easily tell?

 

[RnR]

Rodrigo Lopez just came in!(Twins/Braves)

 

[Eephus]

31 . 09 ( 729 ) SCBF..... SKIP

32 . 16 ( 760 ) SCBF..... SKIP

33 . 09 ( 777 ) SCBF..... SKIP

34 . 16 ( 808 ) SCBF..... SKIP

35 . 09 ( 825 ) SCBF..... SKIP

36 . 12 ( 852 ) ChemX.... SKIP

36 . 16 ( 856 ) SCBF..... SKIP

37 . 09 ( 873 ) SCBF..... SKIP

37 . 13 ( 877 ) ChemX.... SKIP

38 . 12 ( 900 ) ChemX.... SKIP

38 . 16 ( 904 ) SCBF..... SKIP

39 . 03 ( 915 ) LB_44.... SKIP

39 . 09 ( 921 ) SCBF..... SKIP

39 . 13 ( 925 ) ChemX.... SKIP

40 . 12 ( 948 ) ChemX.... SKIP

40 . 16 ( 952 ) SCBF..... SKIP

40 . 21 ( 957 ) moops.... SKIP

40 . 22 ( 958 ) LB_44.... SKIP

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

You bored guys should all enter my homerun pool. PM me your email for the sheet.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Round 39 Willy Taveras OF

Round 40 Samuel Deduno RP

 

[Eephus]

Round 39 Willy Taveras OF

100 SBs this year

 

[Eephus]

Scoobus PMed me these names yesterday. I'll post them now. He can change them by midnight if he wants to:

39 . 07 ( 919 ) scoobus.. Jeff Fulchino P

40 . 18 ( 954 ) scoobus.. Mark Lowe P

 

[the moops]

I picked my 40th guy last page or so. I dont remember who it was though

 

[Eephus]

I picked my 40th guy last page or so. I dont remember who it was though

Garrett Atkins

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Round 39 Willy Taveras OF

100 SBs this year

*In Colorado SpringsThere's actually a chance he'll be on the opening day roster depending on what happens with Ian Stewart's hamstring.

 

[Eephus]

I scraped the bottom of the barrel to fill SCBF's roster out to 35

31 . 09 ( 729 ) SCBF..... Jason Repko OF

32 . 16 ( 760 ) SCBF..... Willie Harris OF

33 . 09 ( 777 ) SCBF..... Sean West P

34 . 16 ( 808 ) SCBF..... Paul Goldschmidt 1B

35 . 09 ( 825 ) SCBF..... Juan Gutierrez P

Draft is over. Larryboy, SCBF and ChemX are a few players short but the 36th round and beyond wasn't loaded with difference makers.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Here's my final draft roster. Players in italics are going to open the season either in MiLB or on the DL, but I think all have a good chance of getting up during the season.

1B: L Joey Votto, R Jorge Cantu (3B)

2B: R Gordon Beckham, R Jerry Hairston (SS/OF), S Jemile Weeks

SS: R JJ Hardy, S Jonathan Herrera (2B/3B)

3B: S Chase Headley, R Ty Wigginton (1B/OF)

OF: R Justin Upton, S Nick Swisher, L Jason Kubel, L Alex Gordon, R Desmond Jennings, R John Mayberry Jr.,

L Charlie Blackmon, L Fernando Martinez, R Willie Taveras

C: L Miguel Montero, S Ryan Doumit (1B/OF), R Jordan Pacheco, S Jose Morales

SP: R Ubaldo Jimenez, R Shaun Marcum, L Derek Holland, L Clayton Richard, R Luke Hochevar,

R Esmil Rogers, R John Ely, R Aaron Cook, R Jarrod Parker

RP: R Rafael Betancourt, L Jose Mijares, L Mike Gonzalez, R Kyle Farnsworth, L Franklin Morales,

R Bartolo Colon, L Rex Brothers, R Filipe Paulino, R Samuel Deduno

I'm definitely vulnerable at SP, with a couple of #5 starters and several with recent injury histories. Glancing over the rosters that seems to be the case for most teams though, at least in terms of overall depth at SP.

 

[Eephus]

Should we have a separate RL season thread for rate my team, trash talk, trade discussions, etc.?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I scraped the bottom of the barrel to fill SCBF's roster out to 3531 . 09 ( 729 ) SCBF..... Jason Repko OF 32 . 16 ( 760 ) SCBF..... Willie Harris OF 33 . 09 ( 777 ) SCBF..... Sean West P 34 . 16 ( 808 ) SCBF..... Paul Goldschmidt 1B 35 . 09 ( 825 ) SCBF..... Juan Gutierrez P Draft is over. Larryboy, SCBF and ChemX are a few players short but the 36th round and beyond wasn't loaded with difference makers.

Harris is in the opening day lineup I guess.

 

[Sammy3469]

C J Buck, Quintero, A Romine, Rosario

1B Pujols, Branyan

2B Jack Wilson, Getz, Kipnis, Almonte, Aramista, Giavotella

SS Pennington, Hu

3B Aviles, Valencia, Inge

OF Granderson, F Guiterrez, Maybin, Damon, Denorfia, A Cunningham

SP Oswalt, T Gallardo, Buchholz, Pavano, Dickey, Arrieta, Enright, Galarraga, Alex White

RP Rivera, Romo, Lyon, Slaten, Abad, Coleman, Atchinson, Accardo

I think that's 9 minor league guys...went for late MI depth. My lineup will be intersting. I need one of the 3Bs to have a good offensive year and Pennington to stay healthy. Pitching staff should be good to great. Really like my bullpen and my SP depth. Probably will have guys to trade at the end of the year.

 

[Sammy3469]

Should we have a separate RL season thread for rate my team, trash talk, trade discussions, etc.?

My suggerstion is to keep it here. Another thread won't get any response.

 

[Bogart]

Should we have a separate RL season thread for rate my team, trash talk, trade discussions, etc.?

My suggerstion is to keep it here. Another thread won't get any response.

I agree. Just let this thing grow.

 

[Eephus]

The thing I like about the RMT posts is that the teams look a lot more like real MLB organizations than a typical mixed fantasy league club. Every team posted so far has significant areas of weakness. The RL season and the sim will determine whether any of these are fatal flaws.

 

[oso diablo]

The thing I like about the RMT posts is that the teams look a lot more like real MLB organizations than a typical mixed fantasy league club. Every team posted so far has significant areas of weakness. The RL season and the sim will determine whether any of these are fatal flaws.

this draft definitely gave me a greater appreciation for what real GMs go through. It highlighted the continual fretting over lefty relievers. And helped me understand why you might trot out a very weak bat at catcher or shortstop.

 

[RnR]

The thing I like about the RMT posts is that the teams look a lot more like real MLB organizations than a typical mixed fantasy league club. Every team posted so far has significant areas of weakness. The RL season and the sim will determine whether any of these are fatal flaws.

this draft definitely gave me a greater appreciation for what real GMs go through. It highlighted the continual fretting over lefty relievers. And helped me understand why you might trot out a very weak bat at catcher or shortstop.

Awesome experience if you were really trying to fill out a 40-man roster and not just filling slots with names you remember.

 

[oso diablo]

Likely Batting Order, without consideration of lefty/righty:

1 - Stephen Drew, SS

2 - Carlos Beltran, CF

3 - Ryan Zimmerman, 3B

4 - Matt Holliday, LF

5 - Brandon Belt, 1B

6 - Geovony Soto, C

7 - Seth Smith, RF

8 - Howie Kendrick, 2B

Bench:

C - Hank Conger, George Kottaras, Jon Hester

2B/SS/3B - Danny Espinosa, Elliot Johnson, Danny Worth, Chris Nelson, Jason Donald, Tommy Manzella

1B/Corner OF - Brad Hawpe, Eric Hinske

CF/OF - Nate McLouth, Roger Bernadina

PH - Nick Johnson

Rotation: Kuroda, Stauffer, Jaime Garcia, Travis Wood, Kyle McClellan

Other SP: Carlos Carrasco, Brandon McCarthy, Justin Duchsherer, Wade LeBlanc

Closer: Matt Thornton

Bullpen: Joba, David Robertson, Bill Bray, Enerio Del Rosario, Henry Rodriguez, Mark Rogers, Mark Prior, Manny Banuelos

NOTES: I probably have fewer RPs than any team, because i focused on grabbing more SPs (rather like picking lots of WRs in that FBG contest). And my SP picks were skewed toward youngsters. Should be able to move some of the SPs to the pen, if needed. Hard to go in the other direction. As for weaknesses, i feel vulnerable in CF, as Beltran is a big injury risk and may not even log enough range with his move to RF, and McLouth remains a question mark after his debacle in 2010.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

The thing I like about the RMT posts is that the teams look a lot more like real MLB organizations than a typical mixed fantasy league club. Every team posted so far has significant areas of weakness. The RL season and the sim will determine whether any of these are fatal flaws.

this draft definitely gave me a greater appreciation for what real GMs go through. It highlighted the continual fretting over lefty relievers. And helped me understand why you might trot out a very weak bat at catcher or shortstop.

Awesome experience if you were really trying to fill out a 40-man roster and not just filling slots with names you remember.

Totally agree. This has been one of the most fun drafts I can recall doing.

 

[oso diablo]

i could see this becoming an annual tradition

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

And Eephus doubted us. :shakeshead:

 

[Doug B]

The thing I like about the RMT posts is that the teams look a lot more like real MLB organizations than a typical mixed fantasy league club. Every team posted so far has significant areas of weakness. The RL season and the sim will determine whether any of these are fatal flaws.

Two things, for better or worse, are sure to happen:a) The breakout guys of 2011 will not be evenly distributed. One or two of our teams will be loaded up with multiple paying lottery tickets. Most teams will have one, a few will have zero.b) A few teams will have all kinds of things go wrong for them, and just be terrible. With some luck, maybe these teams will have one extra good player that can be traded to mitigate a weakness. Beyond that, though, things could be very rough for the have-nots.

 

[Eephus]

And Eephus doubted us. :shakeshead:

It ain't over. The garbage rounds were fun but didn't really ensure that teams will have enough PAs and IPs to go around. Supplemental drafts would have been a valid way of dealing with this potential issue. The risk of disparity that Doug B just mentioned is much higher here than in a typical historical WIS sim (or fantasy league for that matter).

 

[Shtaym Syek]

The thing I like about the RMT posts is that the teams look a lot more like real MLB organizations than a typical mixed fantasy league club. Every team posted so far has significant areas of weakness. The RL season and the sim will determine whether any of these are fatal flaws.

Two things, for better or worse, are sure to happen:a) The breakout guys of 2011 will not be evenly distributed. One or two of our teams will be loaded up with multiple paying lottery tickets. Most teams will have one, a few will have zero.b) A few teams will have all kinds of things go wrong for them, and just be terrible. With some luck, maybe these teams will have one extra good player that can be traded to mitigate a weakness. Beyond that, though, things could be very rough for the have-nots.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

And Eephus doubted us. :shakeshead:

It ain't over. The garbage rounds were fun but didn't really ensure that teams will have enough PAs and IPs to go around. Supplemental drafts would have been a valid way of dealing with this potential issue. The risk of disparity that Doug B just mentioned is much higher here than in a typical historical WIS sim (or fantasy league for that matter).

There's always disparity though. As long as Greco keeps playing, we'll have that.Heck, I screwed up my PA/IP totals in the last sim too. It will be fun to see what happens.

 

[Doug B]

It ain't over. The garbage rounds were fun but didn't really ensure that teams will have enough PAs and IPs to go around. Supplemental drafts would have been a valid way of dealing with this potential issue.

I thought of another way to mitigate potential PA/IP shortfalls besides using salary-minimum guys. It involves our upcoming use of WIS's AAA system.Let's say a team cobbles together its best 24-man lineup, but only has 400 PA at 2B, or only has 900 IP total, or some issue like that. We have the option to "create" our AAA guys, correct? Our plan was to create six AAA guys per team based on IRL 2011 major-league stats, right? Well, perhaps we can let those truly messed-up teams use their real-life AAA players' 2011 AAA stats in the sim -- so long as those AAA guys start the sim season in AAA.

 

[Eephus]

It ain't over. The garbage rounds were fun but didn't really ensure that teams will have enough PAs and IPs to go around. Supplemental drafts would have been a valid way of dealing with this potential issue.

I thought of another way to mitigate potential PA/IP shortfalls besides using salary-minimum guys. It involves our upcoming use of WIS's AAA system.Let's say a team cobbles together its best 24-man lineup, but only has 400 PA at 2B, or only has 900 IP total, or some issue like that. We have the option to "create" our AAA guys, correct? Our plan was to create six AAA guys per team based on IRL 2011 major-league stats, right? Well, perhaps we can let those truly messed-up teams use their real-life AAA players' 2011 AAA stats in the sim -- so long as those AAA guys start the sim season in AAA.

 

[belljr]

I knew going in I was in over my head, I tried to take the BPA and really did not spend enough/any time on L/R matchups and ratings. I'm sure I'll be horrible but this is what I think I have right now. flame away

Since my first 3 2b got moved I don't know how this will play out - I got screwed in with 2b - hopefully Chone or Theriot get time there

1 - Chone Figgins- 3B

2 - Jose Reyes - SS

3 - Carlos Lee - LF

4 - Adrian Gonzalez - 1B

5- Johnny Gomes - RF

6 - Adam Kennedy - 2b

7 - Carlos Gomez - CF

8 - Rod Barajas C

week in the middle - and here are my bench guys

C - Jason Varitek, Adam Moore, Brian Wilson

Not sure how the rest of my bench will fare since some middle guys aren't there now

Mark Kotsay 1B, Placido Polanco 3b, Ryan Theriot 2b? /3b, Mark Derosa util, Greg Dobbs, Felipe Lopez IF (AAA)

OF - Xavier Nady, Trevor Crowe OF (AAA)

Pitching

Chris Carpenter

Ted Lilly

Jhoulys Chacin

Jon Garland

Mike Leake

Brian Wilson

Craig Kimbrel P

Chad Durbin P

Jeremy Affeldt P

Burke Badenhop P

Simon Castro P

Josh Outman P

Scott Mathieson RP

Chris Resop P

Blake Hawksworth P

Vinny Pestano P

Zach Britton

Jared Burton RP

Jayson Nix P

Michael McClendon RP

Matt Daley RP

No idea who is AAA right now

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Bell - If Theriot gets a decent rating at SS, you're not penalized too badly by playing him at 2B. Between that and your other options (lopez, derosa, kennedy) you should be able to cover 2B ok.

Also, you have Jayson Nix listed at P, he's a potential 2B too. He's an IF/OF guy that got traded from CLE to TOR.

 

[Spartans Rule]

i could see this becoming an annual tradition

The crazy thought has crossed my mind of doing this in a dynasty league format.

 

[oso diablo]

sounds like some are taking the AAA part literally. i thought it was more like a taxi squad or reserve list.

 

[belljr]

Bell - If Theriot gets a decent rating at SS, you're not penalized too badly by playing him at 2B. Between that and your other options (lopez, derosa, kennedy) you should be able to cover 2B ok.Also, you have Jayson Nix listed at P, he's a potential 2B too. He's an IF/OF guy that got traded from CLE to TOR.

Thanks still unusre how WIS really worksYeah I messed up on Nix, just don't keep on top of the league like I used to, just my Phils so I'm limited in my "IT"Plus I'm in the 3rd season of the show and half these guys have moved on already ...

sounds like some are taking the AAA part literally. i thought it was more like a taxi squad or reserve list.

I meant I know I had a few guys optioned to start the year. :(

 

[larry_boy_44]

Rickie Weeks - 2/3 with a 2b and a homerun

Ryan Braun - 1/1 with a homerun and 2 walks

going just by these two through 5 innings, my team is gonna be awesome...

 

[Shtaym Syek]

Rickie Weeks - 2/3 with a 2b and a homerunRyan Braun - 1/1 with a homerun and 2 walksgoing just by these two through 5 innings, my team is gonna be awesome...

Did you homer-draft a WIS sim?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Rickie Weeks - 2/3 with a 2b and a homerunRyan Braun - 1/1 with a homerun and 2 walksgoing just by these two through 5 innings, my team is gonna be awesome...

Let's wait until the 4th game of the year when all of your pitchers throw.

 

[larry_boy_44]

Rickie Weeks - 2/3 with a 2b and a homerunRyan Braun - 1/1 with a homerun and 2 walksgoing just by these two through 5 innings, my team is gonna be awesome...

Did you homer-draft a WIS sim?

a little... I think I have 7 or 8 Brewers, although I think I got most of that at good value spots (that or they're players 29-33)

 

[the moops]

TRE - you get these teams entered into fantasy league yet?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

TRE - you get these teams entered into fantasy league yet?

Haven't even started yet. Been inputting my homer pool stuff instead. I'll get it done in the next week or so though. If someone wants to assist, I can make you co-commish.

 

[Bogart]

Rickie Weeks - 2/3 with a 2b and a homerunRyan Braun - 1/1 with a homerun and 2 walksgoing just by these two through 5 innings, my team is gonna be awesome...

Let's wait until the 4th game of the year when all of your pitchers throw.

Now that's funny...

 

[Northern Voice]

Rickie Weeks - 2/3 with a 2b and a homerun

Ryan Braun - 1/1 with a homerun and 2 walks

going just by these two through 5 innings, my team is gonna be awesome...

Did you homer-draft a WIS sim?

I don't know about larry, But I can field an entire lineup of current and one time Jays players and prospects, except for third base....C - Jose Molina, Bengie Molina

1B - Brett Wallace, Matt Stairs

2B - Brad Emaus

SS - John McDonald

3B -

OF - Vernon Wells, Travis Snider, Juan Rivera

SP - Brandon Morrow, AJ Burnett, Jo-Jo Reyes (L), Zach Stewart

RP - Brandon League, Scott Downs (L), Jon Rauch, Tim Collins (L)

My full roster looks like this (get well soon Chase...)

C - Brian McCann, Jose Molina, Rob Johnson, Bengie Molina

1B - Mark Teixeira, Brett Wallace, Matt Stairs

2B - Chase Utley, Brad Emaus, Daniel Murphy, Luis Castillo

SS - Derek Jeter, John McDonald

3B - Chris Johnson, Matt Dominguez

OF - Vernon Wells, Travis Snider, Melky Cabrera, Juan Rivera, Lastings Milledge, Bryce Harper

SP - Brandon Morrow, Brian Matusz (L), Jeff Niemann, Bud Norris, AJ Burnett, Joe Blanton, Jo-Jo Reyes (L), Mike Minor (L), Zach Stewart

RP - Jose Valverde, Brandon Morrow, Scott Downs (L), Jon Rauch, Francisco Rodney, JC Romero (L), Tim Collins (L), Kyle Kendrick, Dusty Hughes (L), Scott Diamond (L)

Italicized dudes are in the minors or free agents.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Going to enter a team in fantrax right now. Who wants to be first? (I'll need your email address)