WIS MMXI: Back to the Future Edition- Draft & Season Thread (3 Viewers)

[Bogart]

Going to enter a team in fantrax right now. Who wants to be first? (I'll need your email address)

PM sent.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

BOOM - Bogart entered.

I'm torn on how to set the roster requirements. I did the standard 23 starters, but now I'm wondering if we should make it bigger...

Something like:

2 C

1 1B

1 2B

1 3B

1 SS

2 MI

2 CI

5 OF

3 UT

12 P

That's 30 "starters". Thoughts?

Also, do we need more categories for Roto?

AVG, OBP, HR, RBI, R, SB, E?

x

W, QS, WHIP, ERA, K, K/9, BB/9?

Help me out here...

Edit: Fantrax has a ton of categories: CS, FPCT, ISO, RC27, K/PA, BB/K, DICE, IRS%, OPS allowed, etc

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

My roster loaded. Looks like I have 21 teams represented, btw. I wonder if anyone got close to all 30?

 

[Eephus]

Suggest adding another pitcher slot to bring the number to the same 31 we're using in WIS. As for categories, I'd think we should focus on ones that minimize team factors (e.g. W, SV, RBI).

Maybe I'm missing something, what is the purpose of setting this up in Fantrax? Is it to give us some idea of expected performance in the sim or just an alternate roto league?

 

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

My roster loaded. Looks like I have 21 teams represented, btw. I wonder if anyone got close to all 30?

24 teams here.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Suggest adding another pitcher slot to bring the number to the same 31 we're using in WIS. As for categories, I'd think we should focus on ones that minimize team factors (e.g. W, SV, RBI).



Maybe I'm missing something, what is the purpose of setting this up in Fantrax? Is it to give us some idea of expected performance in the sim or just an alternate roto league?

Just for fun. You remember fun, right? Also, I think at least some of us are going to put some money on it. Again, for entertainment purposes only.

I'll put all teams in; it'll be a great one-stop shop for you to see your stats at the very least.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Bryan Augenstein in relief for the Cards...I think this is the first guy I've seen playing today that isn't on one of our rosters.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I dig the 31 total idea...

2 C

1 1B

1 2B

1 3B

1 SS

2 MI

2 CI

5 OF

3 UT

13 P

My suggested roto cats (open to other ideas)

AVG, OBP, HR, RBI, R, SB, E, FPCT, SBA, K/PA, XBH

x

W, QS, WHIP, ERA, K, K/9, BB/9, IRS%, DICE, OPS

Would make it a 10x10 league. Defense included, which is big in WIS. Too much? Thoughts?

 

[Eephus]

Suggest adding another pitcher slot to bring the number to the same 31 we're using in WIS. As for categories, I'd think we should focus on ones that minimize team factors (e.g. W, SV, RBI).



Maybe I'm missing something, what is the purpose of setting this up in Fantrax? Is it to give us some idea of expected performance in the sim or just an alternate roto league?

Just for fun. You remember fun, right? Also, I think at least some of us are going to put some money on it. Again, for entertainment purposes only.

I'll put all teams in; it'll be a great one-stop shop for you to see your stats at the very least.

The last ten rounds sapped some of the fun for me. I agree it'll be a good place to go and identify trade targets.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

My other thought as to why we do this is to see if we pick the right categories will it be at all predictive of WIS results?

 

[Eephus]

Bryan Augenstein in relief for the Cards...I think this is the first guy I've seen playing today that isn't on one of our rosters.

He was on the suggestions list I sent Larryboy and Belljr to fill out their rosters.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Bryan Augenstein in relief for the Cards...I think this is the first guy I've seen playing today that isn't on one of our rosters.

He was on the suggestions list I sent Larryboy and Belljr to fill out their rosters.

I think he got the loss.

 

[Eephus]

Bryan Augenstein in relief for the Cards...I think this is the first guy I've seen playing today that isn't on one of our rosters.

He was on the suggestions list I sent Larryboy and Belljr to fill out their rosters.

I think he got the loss.

Larryboy and Belljr know things

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

BELT TIME!

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

BELT TIME!

BASE HIT!

 

[Eephus]

BELT TIME!

BASE HIT!

:righetti:

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Moops roster loaded and moopsmail invite sent.

Mike Sweeney is the first guy not in the fantrax db due to his retirement.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Tejada looking smooth out there.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Posey killing his defensive rating already.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

RnR roster loaded on fantrax. I assume the Chris Carter is the OAK one, not the TB one?

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

I baseball.

 

[the moops]

Moops roster loaded and moopsmail invite sent.Mike Sweeney is the first guy not in the fantrax db due to his retirement.

He is coming back. Just taking a bit of a rest.

 

[Eephus]

Hoos' Team

C: John Jaso, JR Towles, Ramon Castro

1B: David Ortiz, Adam LaRoche

2B: Dan Uggla, Mike Fontenot, Ivan DeJesusJr

3B: Alex Rodriguez, Andy LaRoche, Wes Helms

SS: Ian Desmond, Kevin Frandsen

OF: Mike Stanton, Hunter Pence, Garrett Jones, Ryan Ludwick, Nate Schierholtz, Matt Young, Lorenzo Cain

SP: Tim Hudson, Matt Garza, Jeremy Hellickson, Ian Kennedy, Doug Fister, Barry Zito, Tommy Hunter, Ross Detwiler

RP: Eric O'Flaherty, Octavio Dotel, Jason Frasor, David Aardsma, Manny Acosta, Jim Johnson, Sergio Mitre, Matt Lindstrom, Aaron Crow, Andy Sonnanstine, Yadel Marti, Todd Coffey

Hoos went AWOL at a bad time. He basically didn't have a pick from the beginning of round 14 to the end of round 19 and missed out on most of the low end starting position players. Thanks to Bogart, rodg, Doug B, Oso, Tre and Greco for contributing make-up picks. I made most of the garbage time picks.

Hoos ended with serviceable team. The bench is a little thin and the defense won't be pretty. If the front line offensive guys stay healthy, they'll score some runs.

 

[jfranco77]

Likely Batting Order, without consideration of lefty/righty:1 - Stephen Drew, SS2 - Carlos Beltran, CF3 - Ryan Zimmerman, 3B4 - Matt Holliday, LF5 - Brandon Belt, 1B6 - Geovony Soto, C7 - Seth Smith, RF8 - Howie Kendrick, 2BBench:C - Hank Conger, George Kottaras, Jon Hester2B/SS/3B - Danny Espinosa, Elliot Johnson, Danny Worth, Chris Nelson, Jason Donald, Tommy Manzella1B/Corner OF - Brad Hawpe, Eric HinskeCF/OF - Nate McLouth, Roger BernadinaPH - Nick JohnsonRotation: Kuroda, Stauffer, Jaime Garcia, Travis Wood, Kyle McClellanOther SP: Carlos Carrasco, Brandon McCarthy, Justin Duchsherer, Wade LeBlancCloser: Matt ThorntonBullpen: Joba, David Robertson, Bill Bray, Enerio Del Rosario, Henry Rodriguez, Mark Rogers, Mark Prior, Manny BanuelosNOTES: I probably have fewer RPs than any team, because i focused on grabbing more SPs (rather like picking lots of WRs in that FBG contest). And my SP picks were skewed toward youngsters. Should be able to move some of the SPs to the pen, if needed. Hard to go in the other direction. As for weaknesses, i feel vulnerable in CF, as Beltran is a big injury risk and may not even log enough range with his move to RF, and McLouth remains a question mark after his debacle in 2010.

McLouth may surprise you. I have a sneaky good feeling about him this year. A bigger issue is that Smith will probably still be a 400-500 AB guy and you really need Bernadina to come through or you're short on OF PAs. I love your top3 starters but if TLR keeps McClellan in the 'pen you might be hurting after that. Though McCarthy/LeBlanc might end up being a solid 4-5. Hopefully the rest get enough innings to be good relievers. I think Joba will have a good year. I love Thornton. But don't really like Robertson/Bray in this format and the rest of the RPs might not pitch. You would have really been in trouble at 1B if Belt didn't make the lineup

 

[jfranco77]

I dig the 31 total idea...2 C1 1B1 2B1 3B1 SS2 MI2 CI5 OF3 UT13 PMy suggested roto cats (open to other ideas)AVG, OBP, HR, RBI, R, SB, E, FPCT, SBA, K/PA, XBHxW, QS, WHIP, ERA, K, K/9, BB/9, IRS%, DICE, OPSWould make it a 10x10 league. Defense included, which is big in WIS. Too much? Thoughts?

Errors and fielding percentage are basically the same thing If you are doing cumulative F% then the guys with 1Bs at their CI/UT positions will dominate the category. I'd probably go with something like:AVG/OBP/SLG, errors, HR, SB-CS, and if you want to add runs/RBI for fun, that's fineWHIP, K9, HR9, BB9, wins, saves, ERA, Ks If you add R/RBI for hitters that would be 8x8 (maybe use RC27 instead of RBI)WTF is DICE? I don't even know that one.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Moops roster loaded and moopsmail invite sent.Mike Sweeney is the first guy not in the fantrax db due to his retirement.

He is coming back. Just taking a bit of a rest.

Signed a one day contract so he could retire a Royal. He's gone, man. Gone.

 

[Bogart]

BOOM - Bogart entered.

TRE, thanks for the hard work there. Just got signed up and loving it already. Going to be real interesting to follow the teams like this and then see them in the WIS format.

 

[oso diablo]

A bigger issue is that Smith will probably still be a 400-500 AB guy and you really need Bernadina to come through or you're short on OF PAs.

thanks for the review. on the above, i don't mind playing guys out of position, when i'm moving them to the easy side of the defensive spectrum. also, i figure there will be more desperation in middle infield in this league, and so i can trade from my depth there. assuming, of course, that some of those longshots come through.

 

[oso diablo]

What is DICE? I don't even know that one.

Defense-Independent Component ERA, or something like that. Basically, it's BABIP for pitchers.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Cheese is entered. I can probably do a couple more before I head to the bar and watch baseball all day.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Sparty invited/entered.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

ChemX invited/entered

 

[Doug B]

2011 AAA stats[/I] in the sim -- so long as those AAA guys start the sim season in AAA.

Short version: If a team is short of real-life major-league PAs/IPs ... let them use minor-league PAs/IPs.I thought our six AAA guys were going to be manually entered into the sim?

 

[Eephus]

2011 AAA stats[/I] in the sim -- so long as those AAA guys start the sim season in AAA.

Short version: If a team is short of real-life major-league PAs/IPs ... let them use minor-league PAs/IPs.I thought our six AAA guys were going to be manually entered into the sim?

No the six AAA guys are players with RL 2011 MLB stats. From your 40 drafted players, you'll select 25 active players, 3 AAA pitchers and 3 AAA batters. The remaining 9 drafted players will be discarded. The six AAA players can be swapped in and out of your WIS 25-man roster using some method that's understood only by jfranco77.

 

[oso diablo]

The remaining 9 drafted players will be discarded.

can't we trade them?

 

[Eephus]

The remaining 9 drafted players will be discarded.

can't we trade them?

Sure. One man's trash is another man's slightly better trash

 

[Doug B]

[QUOTE='Doug B]Short version: If a team is short of real-life major-league PAs/IPs ... let them use minor-league PAs/IPs.

I thought our six AAA guys were going to be manually entered into the sim?

No the six AAA guys are players with RL 2011 MLB stats.[/QUOTE]... so these six guys, even with true MLB stats, aren't going to be hand-entered? In the same way gamers create players in Madden or something?

 

[Eephus]

Eephus' Team

C: Yadier Molina, Jeff Mathis, Gerald Laird

1B: Freddie Freeman, Michael Cuddyer(3B/OF)

2B: Ian Kinsler, Emilio Bonifacio(3B/OF), Eric Patterson(OF)

3B: Evan Longoria, Lonnie Chisenhall

SS: Miguel Tejada, Paul Janish, Nick Punto(2B)

OF: Colby Rasmus, Carlos Quentin, Grady Sizemore, Milton Bradley, Michael Taylor, Travis Buck, Nick Weglarz

SP: Chad Billingsley, Ricky Nolasco, Edinson Volquez, Edwin Jackson, Jon Niese, Paul Maholm, Chris Tillman, Kevin Millwood, Yunesky Maya

RP: Daniel Bard, Ryan Madson, Hisanori Takahashi, Matt Belisle, JP Howell, Mitchell Boggs, Scott Linebrink, Aaron Laffey, Juan Cruz, Trevor Bell, Andrew Brackman

I'm pretty happy with the team. Kinsler, Quentin and Sizemore aren't iron men but at least if Sizemore can't play, I've got two of his potential Tribe replacements in Buck and Weglarz. I waited on 1B and SS. If Freeman isn't ready for big league pitching, Cuddyer and an out-of-position OF should be able to fill the position. I'm not the only team with bad shortstops.

I should have enough SP innings. If all goes well, I may be able to deal some surplus innings for help elsewhere. RPs are the same crapshoot as everybody else. I like the guys I drafted but with such a small sample size, just a few RL HRs allowed can make a reliever a sim liability.

 

[scoobus]

i could see this becoming an annual tradition

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

JP Arencibia, SOD?

 

[Northern Voice]

JP Arencibia, SOD?

On pace for 324 Home Runs and 162 triples.

 

[Northern Voice]

The first 2 starters I drafted are on the DL and the 3rd is in AAA. :deadbanana:

 

[Eephus]

The first 2 starters I drafted are on the DL and the 3rd is in AAA. :deadbanana:

at least you still have Chase Utley

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

JP Arencibia, SOD?

On pace for 324 Home Runs and 162 triples.

I'm awesome.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

The first 2 starters I drafted are on the DL and the 3rd is in AAA. :deadbanana:

at least you still have Chase Utley

Oof.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

36 . 03 ( 843 ) HoosFirst Aaron Crow P

36 . 19 ( 859 ) eephus... Eric Patterson OF

I've watched most of the Royals first few games, and Crow is downright filthy.

 

[Bogart]

Just had the auction/draft for the only league I am still in. Knightro and maybe one or two other guys that post here show up in Dallas for it. A lot of Rotojunkie guys. It's 15 teams, auction based for the starting 23 players, and then snake draft for 17 rounds after that. Most years I start reaching for names early into the reserve rounds, but this year I had a list going until the very end. It still got a bit iffy at the end, and I went Ranger heavy, but I was nowhere like some of the other long time players that were struggling.

I have to give this draft a lot of credit. My best draft by far. I will post my team later.

 

[larry_boy_44]

btw my e-mail is my username here @ yahoo.com...

my roster so far:

CF Coco Crisp - 5/12 2B 3B BB SB .417/.462/.667

2B Rickie Weeks - 4/13 2 2B 2 HR 4 K .308/.308/.923

1B Billy Butler - 4/15 2B HR 2 BB 3 K .267/.389/.533

OF Ryan Braun - 4/11 2 HR 2 BB 4 K .364/.462/.909

C Victor Martinez - 3/13 HR 4 K .231/.231/.462

SS Rafael Furcal - 4/12 2B 2 K .333/.333/.417

OF Josh Willingham - 3/11 2B HR 5 K .273/.273/.636

3B Wilson Betemit - 2/10 2B 3 BB 5 K .200/.385/.300

C/1B/DH Jorge Posada - 3/11 2 HRs 2 BB 1 K .273/.385/.818

2B Skip Schumaker - 3/11 2 K .273/.273/.273

DH/OF(hopefully) Jack Cust - 2/10 3 BB 3 K .200/.385/.200

we'll also pretend that my pitching staff doesn't exist.... 35 hits, 8 BB, 7 HRs...

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

I'll get the rest of the teams loaded today, remember to send me your email to get an invite to the league online.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Looks like JFranco doesn't have a 3B with Bautista now in RF.