WIS MMXI: Back to the Future Edition- Draft & Season Thread (1 Viewer)

[SoCalBroncoFan]

3.11 David Price, SP

This was the other guy I almost took at the Hamels spot.My list was:

Cain

Carpenter

Hamels

Price

same same

Great minds think alike.

 

[Northern Voice]

FWIW, I considered Bautista at my pick. The homer in me wanted to take him. I don't doubt him keeping up 30+ HR power. I have some concerns about his BA (but he does walk a lot, so the OBP should be okay) and his defense, which honestly isn't that great at either of his positions.

 

[cheese]

Hamels was the other guy I was considering so for the 3rd round in a row I will take the hitter instead.3.10 Jay BruceNot sure how I'm going to make the lineup work, but getting probable A defense out of a guy with his offensive upside is worth it for me. Plus, the homer factor of course.

SOD. I almost took him back at 2.5.He'll be good value here if all he does is duplicate last year, and he's got a good chance to take the next step up.

Yeah, his defensive rating was kind of a shocker for me. I'll be interested to see if that holds up in 2011.

I dont know much about how WIS decides defensive ratings, but he is ridiculously good on defense.

 

[Doug B]

I dont know much about how WIS decides defensive ratings, but he is ridiculously good on defense.

As far as I know:The Glove grade is based on FLD%

The Range grade, I think, is based on Range Factor. It's better than nothing, but it can lead to some counter-intuitive results. A lot of times, really fast-running CFs come up with surprisingly poor Range Factors just from sharing an outfield with other fast RFs/LFs. Whereas a mediocre CF can get a boost from playing between two stiffs.

For instance -- just by reputation, you'd think Ozzie Smith would always have A/A+ defensive grades in the WIS sim engine. His WIS defensive grades are good, but nowhere near as eye-popping as his rep would lead you to think. I can only surmise that his Range Factor took a hit in years where he played with other "rangey" IFs like Tommy Herr and Terry Pendleton. Or maybe there were years where Smith played with more fly-ball pitchers (not a bad strategy in Busch in the 1980s), and his number of chances dropped. Not really sure.

 

[Eephus]

I dont know much about how WIS decides defensive ratings, but he is ridiculously good on defense.

As far as I know:The Glove grade is based on FLD%

The Range grade, I think, is based on Range Factor. It's better than nothing, but it can lead to some counter-intuitive results. A lot of times, really fast-running CFs come up with surprisingly poor Range Factors just from sharing an outfield with other fast RFs/LFs. Whereas a mediocre CF can get a boost from playing between two stiffs.

For instance -- just by reputation, you'd think Ozzie Smith would always have A/A+ defensive grades in the WIS sim engine. His WIS defensive grades are good, but nowhere near as eye-popping as his rep would lead you to think. I can only surmise that his Range Factor took a hit in years where he played with other "rangey" IFs like Tommy Herr and Terry Pendleton. Or maybe there were years where Smith played with more fly-ball pitchers (not a bad strategy in Busch in the 1980s), and his number of chances dropped. Not really sure.

The Reds rotation had a number of extreme fly ball pitchers last year.

 

[RnR]

Well, my long list for 3rd round considerations has completely dried up. Thanks, oso.

 

[rodg12]

Was going to take Price. Give me a bit to recollect here.

 

[rodg12]

3.12 - Francisco Liriano, SP, MIN

 

[Eephus]

11 out of the last 14 picks have been pitchers

 

[Eephus]

3 . 13 ChemX….

3 . 14 Arsenal..

3 . 15 DougB….

3 . 16 SNC……

3 . 17 NV…….

 

[RnR]

11 out of the last 14 picks have been pitchers

Fully intended on going P/P around this next turn, but oso has unwittingly ruined my master plan.

 

[rodg12]

I tried PMing ChemX earlier, but it looks like his inbox is full. Hopefully one of you guys can or did get a hold of him another way...

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Texted X - but I doubt he shows tonight. Smoke em if you got em.

 

[Eephus]

3 . 13 ChemX…. OTC as of 9AM EST

3 . 14 Arsenal..On deck

3 . 15 DougB….

3 . 16 SNC……

3 . 17 NV…….

 

[Chemical X]

thorry guys

jason heyward, of, braves

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Justin Upton, OF

 

[Doug B]

3.15 (63): 2B Phillips, Brandon

 

[Doug B]

SNC, who is West Coast, has been PMed.

 

[Eephus]

SNC is West Coast but he said he was OK w/ a 7AM local time clock start, so he's on the clock through 8:21 PST.

 

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

3.16 Jayson Werth, OF

Email sent to NV

 

[Greco]

what is canada time?

 

[RnR]

Anyone know if there's a significant NHL milestone today? Could be hammered already.

 

[Eephus]

Anyone know if there's a significant NHL milestone today? Could be hammered already.

Brian Leetch's birthday

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Anyone know if there's a significant NHL milestone today? Could be hammered already.

Brian Leetch's birthday

GB Leetch

 

[Bogart]

Ready with my pick once he arrives.

I'm giving a Toastmaster speech today and decided to do it on why the Rangers are never going to win the World Series.

Started out as a sarcastic piece, but as I have finished it, is is drenched in brutal honesty.

 

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Per email - NV takes

Brian McCann, C

ETA: PM sent to Bogart

 

[Eephus]

3 . 13 ChemX…. Jason Heyward OF

3 . 14 Arsenal.. Justin Upton OF

3 . 15 DougB…. Brandon Phillips 2B

3 . 16 SNC…… Jayson Werth OF

3 . 17 NV……. Brian McCann C

3 . 18 Bogart… OTC to xx33

3 . 19 bobucarow

3 . 20 sparty…

 

[Bogart]

Was actually going to go McCann there, sharp right turn time.

3.18 - Ichiro Suzuki - OF

I don't know how much my team is going to win, but I am going to enjoy the heck out of watching them plays.

Lineup:

1. Ichiro - CF

2. xx

3. Hamilton - LF

4. Cruz - RF

My OF Defense should be fairly decent as well.

I'm am going out on that limb that pitching will be there later and a rotation can be cobbled togethet. That limb will snap off and I will fall to a last place finish, but I will enjoy the ride.

 

[the moops]

3 . 13 ChemX…. Jason Heyward OF

3 . 14 Arsenal.. Justin Upton OF

3 . 15 DougB…. Brandon Phillips 2B

3 . 16 SNC…… Jayson Werth OF

3 . 17 NV……. Brian McCann C

3 . 18 Bogart… Ichiro OF

3 . 19 bobucarow OTC until xx:46

3 . 20 sparty…

3 . 21 RnR…

 

[Bogart]

3 . 13 ChemX…. Jason Heyward OF3 . 14 Arsenal.. Justin Upton OF3 . 15 DougB…. Brandon Phillips 2B3 . 16 SNC…… Jayson Werth OF3 . 17 NV……. Brian McCann C3 . 18 Bogart… Ichiro OF3 . 19 bobucarow OTC until xx:46 3 . 20 sparty…3 . 21 RnR…

PM sent bobucarow.

 

[Eephus]

rodg12 pmed me some questions about the sim. I'm going to go public on the response to help other new owners and maybe provoke some discussion from the vets.

1) Just how much do the defensive ratings impact play?

Bad defense hurts more than good defense helps. Errors are directly related to fielding percentage. Since this is a single season sim, fielding normalization won't come into play which is a good thing. Range affects the number of +/- plays. A+ range guys will get to balls (+ plays) that normal fielders won't. A WIS update a few years ago dramatically reduced the number of +/- plays. I've never seen a conclusive answer how IF range impacts double plays.Playing guys out of position is almost always a bad idea. You can probably get away with playing an out of position guy at 1B but it won't be pretty.

2) Just how much do the ballpark rating impact play?

Petco will definitely produce lower scoring games than Coors. All hitters will be affected when playing in a pitcher's park. Constructing a team specifically for a home park is a lot harder than it sounds, especially when you're drafting in advance of the season.

3) Does WIS adjust players raw numbers from the season to take into account the park that they play in? (i.e. bumping down HRs for a player in Coors while adjusting the pitchers numbers conversly)

No, raw numbers aren't adjusted.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

An MRI on Cain's injured right elbow showed inflammation, the San Francisco Chronicle reports. He was scratched from Thursday's scheduled start with a sore elbow. "Obviously we hope it doesn't have to take missing more than one start," Manager Bruce Bochy said. "We'll see where he's at in a couple of days. Now's the time to back him off and calm this down a little bit."

:(

 

[rodg12]

Thanks Eephus. :(

 

[the moops]

An MRI on Cain's injured right elbow showed inflammation, the San Francisco Chronicle reports. He was scratched from Thursday's scheduled start with a sore elbow. "Obviously we hope it doesn't have to take missing more than one start," Manager Bruce Bochy said. "We'll see where he's at in a couple of days. Now's the time to back him off and calm this down a little bit."

:(

####er

 

[Eephus]

An MRI on Cain's injured right elbow showed inflammation, the San Francisco Chronicle reports. He was scratched from Thursday's scheduled start with a sore elbow. "Obviously we hope it doesn't have to take missing more than one start," Manager Bruce Bochy said. "We'll see where he's at in a couple of days. Now's the time to back him off and calm this down a little bit."

####er

He'll be fine by the time they hand out the championship rings...hopefully

 

[the moops]

I don't know why we had to rush into this draft anyhow.

 

[boubucarow]

Torii Hunter, OF

C Buster Posey

OF Andrew McCutchen

OF Torii Hunter

 

[RnR]

I don't know why we had to rush into this draft anyhow.

We have plenty of time. Probably should've worked in some supplemental drafts along the way too.

 

[boubucarow]

PM sent to Sparty

 

[oso diablo]

3) Does WIS adjust players raw numbers from the season to take into account the park that they play in? (i.e. bumping down HRs for a player in Coors while adjusting the pitchers numbers conversly)

No, raw numbers aren't adjusted.

isn't this somewhat misleading? while raw numbers may not be park-adjusted, don't the important stats get park-adjusted? For example, OBP# and/or OBP+.

 

[Sammy3469]

3) Does WIS adjust players raw numbers from the season to take into account the park that they play in? (i.e. bumping down HRs for a player in Coors while adjusting the pitchers numbers conversly)

No, raw numbers aren't adjusted.

isn't this somewhat misleading? while raw numbers may not be park-adjusted, don't the important stats get park-adjusted? For example, OBP# and/or OBP+.

Pretty sure there is no park adjustment. In the Oct 14 2009 where they started fielding normalization, they neve mention park effects.On thing to keep in mind for rdog is that the salaries you see in the WIS draft center include defense which may or may not be the same for next year.

 

[the moops]

Did we decide if we are all throwing in an extra 5 bucks to make this a little more interesting?

I'm ready to sim live now!

 

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

3 . 13 ChemX…. Jason Heyward OF

3 . 14 Arsenal.. Justin Upton OF

3 . 15 DougB…. Brandon Phillips 2B

3 . 16 SNC…… Jayson Werth OF

3 . 17 NV……. Brian McCann C

3 . 18 Bogart… Ichiro OF

3 . 19 bobucarow Torii Hunter OF

3 . 20 sparty… OTC xx:29

3 . 21 RnR…Cursing Oso

3 . 22 Hoos

3 . 23 TU

3 . 24 Oso

4 . 01 Oso

 

[Hoos First]

Love it when Sparty looks in then disappears.

 

[Eephus]

3) Does WIS adjust players raw numbers from the season to take into account the park that they play in? (i.e. bumping down HRs for a player in Coors while adjusting the pitchers numbers conversly)

No, raw numbers aren't adjusted.

isn't this somewhat misleading? while raw numbers may not be park-adjusted, don't the important stats get park-adjusted? For example, OBP# and/or OBP+.

Pretty sure there is no park adjustment. In the Oct 14 2009 where they started fielding normalization, they neve mention park effects.On thing to keep in mind for rdog is that the salaries you see in the WIS draft center include defense which may or may not be the same for next year.

Era normalized + and #(log5) numbers won't come into play because this is a single season sim (unless someone tries to sneak Mordecai Brown onto their pitching staff).

 

[Hoos First]

who can take a list? Tired of waiting

 

[Eephus]

3) Does WIS adjust players raw numbers from the season to take into account the park that they play in? (i.e. bumping down HRs for a player in Coors while adjusting the pitchers numbers conversly)

No, raw numbers aren't adjusted.

isn't this somewhat misleading? while raw numbers may not be park-adjusted, don't the important stats get park-adjusted? For example, OBP# and/or OBP+.

Pretty sure there is no park adjustment. In the Oct 14 2009 where they started fielding normalization, they neve mention park effects.On thing to keep in mind for rdog is that the salaries you see in the WIS draft center include defense which may or may not be the same for next year.

WIS salaries are also heavily dependent on PAs and IPs.

 

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

who can take a list? Tired of waiting

I'll be around all day.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

who can take a list? Tired of waiting

sure

 

[Hoos First]

who can take a list? Tired of waiting

I'll be around all day.

Sent