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Without Assuming a Particular Outcome, How Confident are You in the Mueller Investigation (1 Viewer)

Without Assuming You Know the Outcome, How Confident Are You?

  • I support Trump, and I'm NOT Confident in the Investigation

    Votes: 5 7.2%
  • I support Trump, and I am Confident in the Investigation

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I do not support Trump, and I'm NOT Confident in the Investigation

    Votes: 8 11.6%
  • I do not support Trump, and I am Confident in the Investigation

    Votes: 56 81.2%

  • Total voters
    69

Dinsy Ejotuz

Footballguy
Put your beliefs about the outcome of Mueller's investigation aside.  How confident are you that the result will be fair -- regardless of whether Trump is personally exonerated or found to be involved?

 
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I believe that Robert Mueller will be in objective in his investigation and will accept any result submitted by him, without qualification.

 
I believe that Robert Mueller will be in objective in his investigation and will accept any result submitted by him, without qualification.
Pretty much this. If his investigation finishes and he says Trump didn't do anything wrong I'll believe him. I'll be gobsmacked, but I  won't think he's lying or didn't pursue all available leads. 

 
If Mueller exonerates Trump I’ll fully accept his conclusion.

But an exoneration seems unlikely even if Trump is completely innocent. Usually someone in Mueller’s position will say something like “We do not have sufficient evidence to support a finding of guilt” rather than “We have sufficient evidence to support a conclusion of innocence.” The first one really isn’t an exoneration. The second one is an exoneration, but it’s extremely rare. (It did happen in the Duke Lacrosse case.)

Nonetheless, I have confidence that Mueller’s team will get to the truth if given the time and resources they ask for. So if the investigation is unimpeded, even if they conclude only “not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt” rather than “innocent,” I’ll take it as very strong evidence of innocence.

 
Well I was told by just about every right-wing talking head Mueller was the perfect man for the job.  Impeccable reputation, accomplished man with nothing left to prove and couldn't be swayed by Obama's "Deep State".  I see no reason NOT to trust him.  Plus we now have an administration who demands we respect the rule of law once again.

 
I believe that Robert Mueller will be in objective in his investigation and will accept any result submitted by him, without qualification.
Almost this. My qualification is that he gets stonewalled by some and can’t finish his investigation without blocks.

But if he is allowed to conduct and finish his investigation...yes.

 
Let's see how many of those who are "confident in the investigation" change their tune AFTER the results are posted!

Kinda like this common thread on Twitter post November 8, 2016 (BEFORE the results)

A quick look at the "sad" Hillary supporters.
Yes, let's see.

Newt Gingrich‏Verified account @newtgingrich

Robert Mueller is superb choice to be special counsel. His reputation is impeccable for honesty and integrity. Media should now calm down
Newt Gingrich‏Verified account @newtgingrich

Republicans are delusional if they think the special counsel is going to be fair. Look who he is hiring.check fec reports. Time to rethink.

 
100% confident in Mueller's competence and integrity. The investigation is moving along with few leaks and assembling facts in a short time. The accusations of bias or whatever today's fairy tale is, nothing I've seen warrants much discussion.

I'm not concerned about how much is directly tied to Trump. I believe he's guilty in all the ways that are already obvious, and then there are things that would make us all sick that will never be proven - the people he's destroyed along the way, the theft, the graft, the mob ties, the endless abuse and manipulation of women including sexual assault, obviously this is who the man is. Whatever.

I think Mueller could find lots of the above and more, and it doesn't matter. The tax returns will come out and they'll be unbelievably damning, and there will be another distraction and nothing will come of it.

Most important part of this by far is exposing Russia's full reach into our democratic norms and elections -- the media & social media operation, kompromat, who exactly was squeezed and why they were vulnerable, were any specific counties/districts hacked and how did they do it. The real nuts & bolts of Russian interference, the impact to date, and the potential impact if we do nothing.

These things are important on the off chance that another president eventually succeeds Trump who doesn't share his last name, and better yet, is not a psychopath and is a patriot (the old kind of patriot, the ones who understood the constitution, 1st amendment, rule of law, etc.). Hopefully this person will take Mueller's findings seriously and make election security a priority. That is most definitely not happening today, for reasons that are obvious. It's the only thing that honestly frightens me about any of this, the thought of an election that is perceived to have no legitimacy and where we go from there. We are headed in that direction more quickly than anyone can perceive right now, in my opinion. 

But I don't know why people seriously talk about impeachment. Democrats don't reach 2/3 of the senate no matter what happens in 2018. He's holding the GOP hostage unless there's another major crash, we get it. He won't get within 10 votes of removal if there's video of him raping Camille Paglia. 

I also don't think Trump "firing Mueller" is worth a lot of discussion. It may as well have already happened and nothing would feel different. Maybe it will be fun to predict how many people he has to fire in the DOJ to finally get rid of Mueller. If you're pinning your hopes on this batch of GOP turds to hold him in check, I think you're clueless.

 
If Mueller exonerates Trump I’ll fully accept his conclusion.

But an exoneration seems unlikely even if Trump is completely innocent. Usually someone in Mueller’s position will say something like “We do not have sufficient evidence to support a finding of guilt” rather than “We have sufficient evidence to support a conclusion of innocence.” The first one really isn’t an exoneration. The second one is an exoneration, but it’s extremely rare. (It did happen in the Duke Lacrosse case.)

Nonetheless, I have confidence that Mueller’s team will get to the truth if given the time and resources they ask for. So if the investigation is unimpeded, even if they conclude only “not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt” rather than “innocent,” I’ll take it as very strong evidence of innocence.
Lolz.

Help is on the way.

Stolen election.

Obama had to fix everything.

arrrgggg Trump is a disaster.

anyday now the sky high 25k Dow is gonna fall!

on me. 

The poor.

vote democrat.

or you’re a Nazi!

 
Lolz.

Help is on the way.

Stolen election.

Obama had to fix everything.

arrrgggg Trump is a disaster.

anyday now the sky high 25k Dow is gonna fall!

on me. 

The poor.

vote democrat.

or you’re a Nazi!
I just have to quote this before the daytime Dr Oadi wakes up and reads what the nighttime Dr Oadi wrote. 

 
For most of us normal people that's how these things are supposed to work.

I just want everyone to let the guy do his job without interference. 


Nonetheless, I have confidence that Mueller’s team will get to the truth if given the time and resources they ask for. So if the investigation is unimpeded, even if they conclude only “not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt” rather than “innocent,” I’ll take it as very strong evidence of innocence.
That's why I'm not confident. Nothing against the man, but he needs cooperation. Which is sorely lacking in DC. At the end of everything, I probably will be confident in the process, but I'm not there yet. 

 

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