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Woman beheaded in Oklahoma workplace (1 Viewer)

So the police said this wasnt tied to religion but to the guy being fired, yet this thread is making it about religion.

Good ole FFA. :thumbup:

 
So the police said this wasnt tied to religion but to the guy being fired, yet this thread is making it about religion.

Good ole FFA. :thumbup:
Law enforcement routinely denies that things have to do with "terrorism", etc., in a lame effort to tone down peoples' reactions to things. The cops may as well be saying, "she fell".

 
So the police said this wasnt tied to religion but to the guy being fired, yet this thread is making it about religion.

Good ole FFA. :thumbup:
Law enforcement routinely denies that things have to do with "terrorism", etc., in a lame effort to tone down peoples' reactions to things. The cops may as well be saying, "she fell".
That seems like a stretch, but then again, people sleep with glocks on the nightstand because too many leaves are falling in the yard.

 
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So the police said this wasnt tied to religion but to the guy being fired, yet this thread is making it about religion.

Good ole FFA. :thumbup:
Would you just stop bringing facts into this already? Geez.
Local newspaper McCurtain Gazette reports:



A classmate of Nolen’s, who didn’t wish to be identified, told this newspaper that he spoke to a close family member of Nolen’s today.


He told this newspaper that according to the family member, Nolen was telling coworkers Thursday of an Islamic teaching that said women should be stoned for an offense, and that an argument followed the mark, Nolen was later fired and returned later Thursday, when he beheaded Colleen Hufford, the family member said.

Oklahoma Beheading Suspect’s Facebook Page Features Image of Militant Fighters, Religious Rants

This past Tuesday, posting on Facebook as Jah’Keem Yisrael, Nolen said “Shalom Alhakeium (O Ye Muslims) Allah (sWt) says in the last days, ‘People will be lovers of themselves, proud and unholy.’ So to all of U that masturbating which I think is 80% of the world and for whatever desire it is in your hear that U doing it for – U can get! (warning) This is the last days … 2nd Timothy 3:2.” The Islamic Council of Oklahoma has stated that Nolen is “not known to any of the leadership in Oklahoma mosques,” however the Facebook page reviewed and confirmed by the Gazette as his shows several photos of him interacting at “the Islamic Mosque in Oklahoma City.”
 
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So the police said this wasnt tied to religion but to the guy being fired, yet this thread is making it about religion.

Good ole FFA. :thumbup:
Law enforcement routinely denies that things have to do with "terrorism", etc., in a lame effort to tone down peoples' reactions to things. The cops may as well be saying, "she fell".
That seems like a stretch, but then again, people sleep with glocks on the nightstand because too many leaves are falling in the yard.
You know how long criminal investigations go - how else do you account for the police definitively defining this guy's motives withing a few hours of this crime as opposed to days or weeks?

This is just an attempt by law enforcement to prevent Cletus and his band of yokel idiots from setting fire to the nearest mosque.

 
This is just an attempt by law enforcement to prevent Cletus and his band of yokel idiots from setting fire to the nearest mosque.
Doesn't matter in today's world. Did you see the Busted Knuckles post? Cletus/Peens already on his way down there.

 
Here is what bugs me about this. Beheadings are not culturally acceptable in the US. This is a whack job who happens to be a convert to Islam, that hears about beheadings in a part of the world where those types of things happen. So he does it. Did beings Muslim make him do it? No. Crazy knows no religion (but religion can certainly feed crazy). But now Islamaphobes will wring their hands about this horrible tragedy and try to conflate it to Islam.
Here's what bugs me about politically correct idiots.
Good one. Do you have any free periods this year? Who are you taking to the dance? Now put your big boy pants on and wipe your nose, junior.

 
Here is what bugs me about this. Beheadings are not culturally acceptable in the US. This is a whack job who happens to be a convert to Islam, that hears about beheadings in a part of the world where those types of things happen. So he does it. Did beings Muslim make him do it? No. Crazy knows no religion (but religion can certainly feed crazy). But now Islamaphobes will wring their hands about this horrible tragedy and try to conflate it to Islam.
That is what bugs you about this? Really? Also, where are beheadings culturally acceptable?
Clearly the women being murdered is unacceptable - I thought that went without saying. Greater chances of beheadings - Oklahoma or Iraq? I'll hang up and listen.

 
Olaf said:
So the police said this wasnt tied to religion but to the guy being fired, yet this thread is making it about religion.

Good ole FFA. :thumbup:
:lmao: :lmao:

Yeah, because authorities have never tried to downplay the connection with Islam in these incident. John Kerry just said that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam, and Nidal Hassan's actions at Ft. Hood were just workplace violence.

Even if the motive for the murderer's rampage was inspired by his firing and not by his religious beliefs, that doesn't mean all of his actions during the rampage were void of connections to his religious beliefs. America has seen numerous workplace violence incidents over the years which resulted in people being killed by gunshots or stabbing. But how many of those victims were intentionally beheaded? None that I'm aware of. Of the incidents of people being intentionally beheaded in the world today, what religion do the beheaders generally devoutly follow?

It's pretty simple to honestly put the pieces together, but feel free to choose not to.
No one ever said Hasan's actions were workplace violence, he most certainly was motivated by extremist thoughts but he was also an unstable person.

It's not simple at all to put the pieces together with what we know now Colombo, thinking so makes you a judgmental buffoon. :thumbup:

 
If a beheading occurs, a Muslim probably did it

If a murder happens, a black guy probably did it

If someone is good at math, they're likely Asian

If someone is fat, they are from Louisiana

if someone complains about workplace harassment, they are most likely a woman

If someone buys a 7-11, they are probably South Asian

If a guy is an alcoholic, he's more than likely Native American

If someone is lazy, they are more than not Mexican

If a chick has a great ###, she's Brazilian

It's pretty simple to honestly put the pieces together, but feel free to choose not to.

 
If a beheading occurs, a Muslim probably did it

If a murder happens, a black guy probably did it

If someone is good at math, they're likely Asian

If someone is fat, they are from Louisiana

if someone complains about workplace harassment, they are most likely a woman

If someone buys a 7-11, they are probably South Asian

If a guy is an alcoholic, he's more than likely Native American

If someone is lazy, they are more than not Mexican

If a chick has a great ###, she's Brazilian

It's pretty simple to honestly put the pieces together, but feel free to choose not to.
what should we conclude when there is an actual beheading done by an actual Muslim?

I wonder how many beheadings occur in the US, and how many were committed by Muslims. I'd bet it's more than half.

 
Olaf said:
So the police said this wasnt tied to religion but to the guy being fired, yet this thread is making it about religion.

Good ole FFA. :thumbup:
:lmao: :lmao:



Yeah, because authorities have never tried to downplay the connection with Islam in these incident. John Kerry just said that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam, and Nidal Hassan's actions at Ft. Hood were just workplace violence.


Even if the motive for the murderer's rampage was inspired by his firing and not by his religious beliefs, that doesn't mean all of his actions during the rampage were void of connections to his religious beliefs. America has seen numerous workplace violence incidents over the years which resulted in people being killed by gunshots or stabbing. But how many of those victims were intentionally beheaded? None that I'm aware of. Of the incidents of people being intentionally beheaded in the world today, what religion do the beheaders generally devoutly follow?


It's pretty simple to honestly put the pieces together, but feel free to choose not to.
Wow. Good post.

 
If a beheading occurs, a Muslim probably did it

If a murder happens, a black guy probably did it

If someone is good at math, they're likely Asian

If someone is fat, they are from Louisiana

if someone complains about workplace harassment, they are most likely a woman

If someone buys a 7-11, they are probably South Asian

If a guy is an alcoholic, he's more than likely Native American

If someone is lazy, they are more than not Mexican

If a chick has a great ###, she's Brazilian

It's pretty simple to honestly put the pieces together, but feel free to choose not to.
what should we conclude when there is an actual beheading done by an actual Muslim?

I wonder how many beheadings occur in the US, and how many were committed by Muslims. I'd bet it's more than half.
You don't keep up with the drug cartels do you?

Those are Christians, guy. :thumbup:

 
Olaf said:
So the police said this wasnt tied to religion but to the guy being fired, yet this thread is making it about religion.

Good ole FFA. :thumbup:
:lmao: :lmao:





Yeah, because authorities have never tried to downplay the connection with Islam in these incident. John Kerry just said that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam, and Nidal Hassan's actions at Ft. Hood were just workplace violence.



Even if the motive for the murderer's rampage was inspired by his firing and not by his religious beliefs, that doesn't mean all of his actions during the rampage were void of connections to his religious beliefs. America has seen numerous workplace violence incidents over the years which resulted in people being killed by gunshots or stabbing. But how many of those victims were intentionally beheaded? None that I'm aware of. Of the incidents of people being intentionally beheaded in the world today, what religion do the beheaders generally devoutly follow?



It's pretty simple to honestly put the pieces together, but feel free to choose not to.
Wow. Good post.
:lmao:

Buzz off. Mods move to AC
 
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wow...school bus returning from softball game and two semis collided south of OKC. 3 fatalities and 15 injured. Oklahoma not having a good day.

 
If a beheading occurs, a Muslim probably did it

If a murder happens, a black guy probably did it

If someone is good at math, they're likely Asian

If someone is fat, they are from Louisiana

if someone complains about workplace harassment, they are most likely a woman

If someone buys a 7-11, they are probably South Asian

If a guy is an alcoholic, he's more than likely Native American

If someone is lazy, they are more than not Mexican

If a chick has a great ###, she's Brazilian

It's pretty simple to honestly put the pieces together, but feel free to choose not to.
4 out of 9 ain't bad.

 
Officially, it's been reported as a beheading.

Beheadings (?) are generally standard workplace vengeance for non-religous folk. Nope, no guns.

Beheading.

Wait, say that again and let your credulity take over. This has nothing to do with religion.

Beheading.

eta* soapboxing and restraint gets you nowhere with people who need neither boxes for their platform nor practice restraint

 
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If a beheading occurs, a Muslim probably did it

If a murder happens, a black guy probably did it

If someone is good at math, they're likely Asian

If someone is fat, they are from Louisiana

if someone complains about workplace harassment, they are most likely a woman

If someone buys a 7-11, they are probably South Asian

If a guy is an alcoholic, he's more than likely Native American

If someone is lazy, they are more than not Mexican

If a chick has a great ###, she's Brazilian

It's pretty simple to honestly put the pieces together, but feel free to choose not to.
what should we conclude when there is an actual beheading done by an actual Muslim?

I wonder how many beheadings occur in the US, and how many were committed by Muslims. I'd bet it's more than half.
You don't keep up with the drug cartels do you?

Those are Christians, guy. :thumbup:
not really, no. Are they beheading in the US now?

 
Serious question.

How come the jokes in this thread can fly, but I make a joke about getting rid of a bunch of feral cats and I'm almost suspended?
If I'm the manufacturer of that knife, I am touting it as the knife that can pop a head off with just a stab.

 
If a beheading occurs, a Muslim probably did it

If a murder happens, a black guy probably did it

If someone is good at math, they're likely Asian

If someone is fat, they are from Louisiana

if someone complains about workplace harassment, they are most likely a woman

If someone buys a 7-11, they are probably South Asian

If a guy is an alcoholic, he's more than likely Native American

If someone is lazy, they are more than not Mexican

If a chick has a great ###, she's Brazilian

It's pretty simple to honestly put the pieces together, but feel free to choose not to.
worst Ke$ha song ever.

 
I live near a Christian University and I hope nobody does anything stupid. :/ I don't want to hear about any more crazy Islamics killing people.

We better get another Bush in power, quick.

 
Serious question.

How come the jokes in this thread can fly, but I make a joke about getting rid of a bunch of feral cats and I'm almost suspended?
It's because you're too stable and make others envious. Anyone who can combine cat killing, hydrocodone, and extreme religion truly has their #### together.

 
Olaf said:
Olaf said:
So the police said this wasnt tied to religion but to the guy being fired, yet this thread is making it about religion.

Good ole FFA. :thumbup:
:lmao: :lmao:

Yeah, because authorities have never tried to downplay the connection with Islam in these incident. John Kerry just said that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam, and Nidal Hassan's actions at Ft. Hood were just workplace violence.

Even if the motive for the murderer's rampage was inspired by his firing and not by his religious beliefs, that doesn't mean all of his actions during the rampage were void of connections to his religious beliefs. America has seen numerous workplace violence incidents over the years which resulted in people being killed by gunshots or stabbing. But how many of those victims were intentionally beheaded? None that I'm aware of. Of the incidents of people being intentionally beheaded in the world today, what religion do the beheaders generally devoutly follow?

It's pretty simple to honestly put the pieces together, but feel free to choose not to.
No one ever said Hasan's actions were workplace violence, he most certainly was motivated by extremist thoughts but he was also an unstable person.

It's not simple at all to put the pieces together with what we know now Colombo, thinking so makes you a judgmental buffoon. :thumbup:
:lmao: :lmao:

If it's not simple to put the pieces together then why are you accepting the almost immediate police conclusion that the beheading had nothing to do with the murderer's beliefs? Apparently it's easy to put the pieces together one way, but not the other way in your mind.

As we know, police always tell the truth.

You may want to check out that link Eminence posted.
Thanks Slingblade

 
Suhaib Webb, an Imam with ties to former Al Qaeda mastermind Anwar al-Awlaki, had also previously been the leader of the Islamic Society of Greater Oklahoma City, which had been attended by Alton Nolen -- the man who on Thursday beheaded a former coworker after recently converting to Islam, Breitbart News has learned. Webb now serves as Imam of the sister organization of the mosque attended by Boston Marathon bombers Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev.Imam Suhaib Webb has a history of ties to radicalism. FBI surveillance documents found that he was a known confidant of Al Qaeda mastermind Anwar al-Awlaki. Just two days before the September 11, 2001 attacks on America, Webb spoke at a fundraiser with Awlaki with hopes to raise funds for Atlanta-based H. Rap Brown, a man that shot and killed two police officers. The FBI documents also found that “Webb and Awlaki may be associated with the Muslim American Society,” which is a group described by the Investigative Project on Terrorism as being “founded as the United States Chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood.”

Nolen took a picture of himself (above) September 5th, just three weeks before he brutally murdered an innocent woman, standing in front of the gates of the Islamic Society of Greater Oklahoma City.

The caption read: “At The Masjid (Mosque)Today For Jumar 9/5/2014 & Peforming Wudu!!!”

Imam Webb’s bio from his new place of employment, the Islamic Society of Boston, states:

While pursuing his bachelors degree Imam Webb studied privately with a renowned Muslim Scholar of Senegalese descent. After intense private training in various Islamic sciences, Imam Webb was hired as the Imam at the Islamic Society of Greater Oklahoma City, where he not only provided Khutbas (Sermons) and religious classes but also counseled families and young people.
The Islamic Society of Boston, which was attended by the Tsarnaev brothers during his tenure as Imam, has several within their ranks who have been charged with committing acts of Islamic Radicalism. The founder of the Mosque, Abdulrahman Alamoudi, was sentenced to 23 years in prison for his role for financing terror.

After the Boston Marathon bombings, Webb had initially been invited to an interfaith memorial at the Holy Cross Cathedral, where president Obama was scheduled to speak. Imam Webb's invitation was then rescinded under mysterious circumstances at the last minute, according to reports.

Writing in the Jewish Advocate last year, columnist Charles Jacobs described Imam Webb as someone who “teaches vicious hatred and calls for young Muslims to engage in Jihad against non-Muslims in order to establish a global Islamic state.”
 
If a beheading occurs, a Muslim probably did it

If a murder happens, a black guy probably did it

If someone is good at math, they're likely Asian

If someone is fat, they are from Louisiana

if someone complains about workplace harassment, they are most likely a woman

If someone buys a 7-11, they are probably South Asian

If a guy is an alcoholic, he's more than likely Native American

If someone is lazy, they are more than not Mexican

If a chick has a great ###, she's Brazilian

It's pretty simple to honestly put the pieces together, but feel free to choose not to.
what should we conclude when there is an actual beheading done by an actual Muslim?

I wonder how many beheadings occur in the US, and how many were committed by Muslims. I'd bet it's more than half.
I think historically, it's mostly been black men who committed the crime of not wanting to be slaves.

In the modern era, it's mostly been automobile drivers who committed the crime of crashing at unfortunate angles.

In Canada, of course, it's guys on Greyhound buses unlucky enough fall asleep next to psychopaths.

But yeah, there's probably an occasional Muslim in there, too.

 
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Even if the motive for the murderer's rampage was inspired by his firing and not by his religious beliefs, that doesn't mean all of his actions during the rampage were void of connections to his religious beliefs. America has seen numerous workplace violence incidents over the years which resulted in people being killed by gunshots or stabbing. But how many of those victims were intentionally beheaded? None that I'm aware of. Of the incidents of people being intentionally beheaded in the world today, what religion do the beheaders generally devoutly follow?

It's pretty simple to honestly put the pieces together, but feel free to choose not to.
The guy was a religious whacko who killed random people at the place he was fired from. His religion had nothing to do with the results of what happened.

 
A classmate of Nolen's, who didn't wish to be identified, told this newspaper that he spoke to a close family member of Nolen's today.

He told this newspaper that according to the family member, Nolen was telling coworkers Thursday of an Islamic teaching that said women should be stoned for an offense, and that an argument followed the mark, Nolen was later fired and returned later Thursday, when he beheaded Colleen Hufford, the family member said.
 
Seems pretty important to some people that this beheading was done for religious reasons.

Are there better reasons for beheading someone? Some sort of scale from OK to bad to worst?

1. took someone's parking spot

2. caught escaping slavery

3. car accident victim

4. she was asking for it

5. Muslim

 
This guy was a career criminal who just got fired from his job and went nuts. When a Christian goes nuts and shoots up a school, we wonder what happened to them because they went to church and were otherwise wallflowers.

What about the nut in PA who went and shot two state troopers for no apparent reason? Should we see if he posted something about the crusades? What about this guy? Or this guy? Crazy people commit crimes because they are crazy, regardless of what their religious views are. We are quick to find interest in condemning Muslims for their religion when 99% of them are peaceful and dutiful in their following. Some career criminal who just converted to Islam and just got fired from his job is not the best example of a religion. If you want to talk Wahhabi Islamists or Safists then I'm willing to listen.

 
I don't understand why liberals always stick up for Muslims. If they were ever to gain control most of their special interests would have their civil liberties seriously curtailed.

Women are pretty much a lower form of life in their world. And then the gays....well let's just say homosexuals would not be out parading around as much in a society that is dominated by Muslims. That is not to say that there are not any Muslim homos, rather that the ones in charge would be all in for killing them as soon as possible.

It's sort of perplexing why libs have such a fixation on standing up for a perspective that clearly hates them.

 
Seems pretty important to some people that this beheading was done for religious reasons.

Are there better reasons for beheading someone? Some sort of scale from OK to bad to worst?

1. took someone's parking spot

2. caught escaping slavery

3. car accident victim

4. she was asking for it

5. Muslim
A better question would be why you feel it is so important to defend a religion that espouses such un-American and unhealthy views regarding gays, women, and any other habit or behavior that is not pure (according to them).

Maybe you are at war with yourself. :rolleyes:

 
I don't understand why liberals always stick up for Muslims. If they were ever to gain control most of their special interests would have their civil liberties seriously curtailed.

Women are pretty much a lower form of life in their world. And then the gays....well let's just say homosexuals would not be out parading around as much in a society that is dominated by Muslims. That is not to say that there are not any Muslim homos, rather that the ones in charge would be all in for killing them as soon as possible.

It's sort of perplexing why libs have such a fixation on standing up for a perspective that clearly hates them.
I don't understand why right-wingers bash Islam. If it weren't for them, you'd never watch TV because FAUX News would have nothing to talk about.

Also lol at "homos."

 
Women are pretty much a lower form of life in their world. And then the gays....well let's just say homosexuals would not be out parading around as much in a society that is dominated by________________________
Fill in the blank
Don't get your point here. Gays pretty much run this place and are free to do whatever. I am really not sure what you are getting at. Care to explain?

 
I don't understand why liberals always stick up for Muslims. If they were ever to gain control most of their special interests would have their civil liberties seriously curtailed.

Women are pretty much a lower form of life in their world. And then the gays....well let's just say homosexuals would not be out parading around as much in a society that is dominated by Muslims. That is not to say that there are not any Muslim homos, rather that the ones in charge would be all in for killing them as soon as possible.

It's sort of perplexing why libs have such a fixation on standing up for a perspective that clearly hates them.
You don't know what the #### you're talking about. Clearly you don't know many American Muslims and are using what you see on TV to be prejudiced against an entire group of people.

 
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I don't understand why liberals always stick up for Muslims. If they were ever to gain control most of their special interests would have their civil liberties seriously curtailed.

Women are pretty much a lower form of life in their world. And then the gays....well let's just say homosexuals would not be out parading around as much in a society that is dominated by Muslims. That is not to say that there are not any Muslim homos, rather that the ones in charge would be all in for killing them as soon as possible.

It's sort of perplexing why libs have such a fixation on standing up for a perspective that clearly hates them.
You don't know what the #### you're talking about. Clearly you don't know many American Muslims and are using what you see on TV to be prejudiced against an entire group of people.
As I have suggested before, when certain groups are given too much protection they eventually take over.

It's politically incorrect even though statistics show there is room to be cautious.

 
I don't understand why liberals always stick up for Muslims. If they were ever to gain control most of their special interests would have their civil liberties seriously curtailed.

Women are pretty much a lower form of life in their world. And then the gays....well let's just say homosexuals would not be out parading around as much in a society that is dominated by Muslims. That is not to say that there are not any Muslim homos, rather that the ones in charge would be all in for killing them as soon as possible.

It's sort of perplexing why libs have such a fixation on standing up for a perspective that clearly hates them.
I don't understand why right-wingers bash Islam. If it weren't for them, you'd never watch TV because FAUX News would have nothing to talk about.

Also lol at "homos."
Whatever...the word homo is used as a description, not as a slur. As for me, I could give two craps about what gays do in private life or even in public. I am a fairly religious person (Catholic), and I am pretty sure that I will be judged on my own merits, so it is stupid to try and condemn somebody else just because if you believe in an all-knowing and omnipotent force, it stands as idiotic to go out and pretend that you are its agent, unless you really are.

On the other hand...ask any dedicated Muslim what their opinions are of homosexuals. Hard to see why you defend that.

 
All I know is that if someone is talking about Islam at my work, trying to convert people... I am calling the police immediately.

All it takes is one behavioral order sociopath to get latched onto Islam extremism. It's the ultimate form of counter culture.

 
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