World's Greatest Draft (2 Viewers)

[timschochet]

Zaxxon, I don't have a ton of complaints about your list, but I was at least hoping you could sort of describe your thinking process and why you ranked them in the way you did.

 

[mad sweeney]

What was the judging criteria for the celebs?

I believe Zaxxon's stated criteria was "that they be well known".It may have been more succinct than that, but I do remember he stopped by to let us know.

Mary is more well known than anyone else on that list...

Posthumous notoriety and celebrity are even more different than popularity and greatness.

 

[larry_boy_44]

What was the judging criteria for the celebs?

I believe Zaxxon's stated criteria was "that they be well known".It may have been more succinct than that, but I do remember he stopped by to let us know.

Mary is more well known than anyone else on that list...

Posthumous notoriety and celebrity are even more different than popularity and greatness.

did you know that there was this guy who invented the steam engine in 500 BC... but sadly,. he never told anyone about it and destroyed all evidence of it...I wonder why he wasn't drafted here...

 

[chook]

Sir Donald Bradman - Athlete

I think it's an excellent pick. Then again, I like cricket.

S.O.D.

 

[BobbyLayne]

What was the judging criteria for the celebs?

I believe Zaxxon's stated criteria was "that they be well known".It may have been more succinct than that, but I do remember he stopped by to let us know.

Mary is more well known than anyone else on that list...

Posthumous notoriety and celebrity are even more different than popularity and greatness.

did you know that there was this guy who invented the steam engine in 500 BC... but sadly,. he never told anyone about it and destroyed all evidence of it...I wonder why he wasn't drafted here...

Heron of Alexandria invented the first steam engine in 100 BC, wrote it down, and was drafted. But not as a Celebrity.

 

[mad sweeney]

What was the judging criteria for the celebs?

I believe Zaxxon's stated criteria was "that they be well known".It may have been more succinct than that, but I do remember he stopped by to let us know.

Mary is more well known than anyone else on that list...

Posthumous notoriety and celebrity are even more different than popularity and greatness.

did you know that there was this guy who invented the steam engine in 500 BC... but sadly,. he never told anyone about it and destroyed all evidence of it...I wonder why he wasn't drafted here...

Probably because his invention didn't have any affect on the world. What that has to do with Mary not being a celebrity is a mystery.

 

[larry_boy_44]

I believe Zaxxon's stated criteria was "that they be well known".It may have been more succinct than that, but I do remember he stopped by to let us know.

Mary is more well known than anyone else on that list...

Posthumous notoriety and celebrity are even more different than popularity and greatness.

did you know that there was this guy who invented the steam engine in 500 BC... but sadly,. he never told anyone about it and destroyed all evidence of it...I wonder why he wasn't drafted here...

Heron of Alexandria invented the first steam engine in 100 BC, wrote it down, and was drafted. But not as a Celebrity.

my point was that without a small speck of celebrity and notoriety, it doesn't matter what a person does...Maybe the Theory of Relativity was discovered by someone moments before Mount Vesuvius erupted, but the person never got the time to write it down and we don't know about it... Does that make the person great? Not really, no one knows what they did or that they even existed...Without some popularity, without some notoriety, without someone knowing great acts become completely meaningless... at least in the context of this draft anyways...

 

[Fennis]

So it seems I have been caught between Tim's rule of not posting within 4 hours of another judge and Tim's request of posting all my results or be replaced. I am not looking to be replaced, so here comes the Rebel rankings... I haven't been able to follow much the last few days, so I dont't know if thereis a preferd format, but I will break my rankings into tiers and start from the bottom up.

Rip me all you want, but since I won the GAD, who do you think is correct me or you?

 

[larry_boy_44]

I believe Zaxxon's stated criteria was "that they be well known".It may have been more succinct than that, but I do remember he stopped by to let us know.

Mary is more well known than anyone else on that list...

Posthumous notoriety and celebrity are even more different than popularity and greatness.

did you know that there was this guy who invented the steam engine in 500 BC... but sadly,. he never told anyone about it and destroyed all evidence of it...I wonder why he wasn't drafted here...

Probably because his invention didn't have any affect on the world. What that has to do with Mary not being a celebrity is a mystery.

had to do with your popularity <> greatness statement...as far as Mary... if celebrity is defined as "someone who is well known", then Mary qualifies (as does literally everyone else in this draft)...

 

[FUBAR]

Celebrities List1 - Princess Diana2 - Pope John Paul II3 - Elvis Presley4 - Marilyn Monroe5 - Michael Jackson6 - David Beckham7 - Madonna8 - Jackie Kennedy Onassis9 - Audrey Hepburn10 - Charlie Chaplin11 - Barack Obama12 - Lucille Ball13 - King Tutankhamun14 - John F. Kennedy15 - Manfred von Richthofen16 - Eva Peron17 - Jackie Chan18 - Hugh Hefner19 - The Virgin Mary20 - Anna Nicole Smith

Who is David Beckham?

No way Jacki Chan should be behind Tut (if you discount Mary as you properly did you must do the same to Tut), Beckham, or Richtofen. No way Mary isn't last. Terrible second half.

I agree, top 10 is straight forward and IMO, about right. I don't know who was better known world-wide, the Pope or Di, but Di was probably more loved while Pope was slightly more revered? After that though, IMO Tut has to be just ahead of Mary because he was more known during his own life. Eva and Chan probably should be 10 and 11, although perhaps Obama should be higher. Just my 1 - Princess Diana2 - Pope John Paul II3 - Elvis Presley4 - Marilyn Monroe5 - Michael Jackson6 - David Beckham7 - Madonna8 - Jackie Kennedy Onassis9 - Audrey Hepburn10 - Barack Obama11 - Eva Peron12 - Jackie Chan13 - Lucille Ball14 - John F. Kennedy15 - Charlie Chaplin16 - Manfred von Richthofen17 - Hugh Hefner 18 - Anna Nicole Smith19 - King Tutankhamun20 - The Virgin Marybut your list is good too.

 

[BobbyLayne]

so LB...if this is true...

but greatness is meaningless without popularity...

would popularity without greatness be meaningless as well?TIA...

 

[FUBAR]

as far as Mary... if celebrity is defined as "someone who is well known", then Mary qualifies (as does literally everyone else in this draft)...

17. Celebrities Could be movie stars, athletes, other famous people. These are the ones who everywhere they go, people recognize them.

IMO, the bold is a good definition of celebrity and pretty much takes Mary and Tut out of it - although you can argue Tut has been in museums and stuff.

 

[timschochet]

So it seems I have been caught between Tim's rule of not posting within 4 hours of another judge and Tim's request of posting all my results or be replaced. I am not looking to be replaced, so here comes the Rebel rankings... I haven't been able to follow much the last few days, so I dont't know if thereis a preferd format, but I will break my rankings into tiers and start from the bottom up.

Rip me all you want, but since I won the GAD, who do you think is correct me or you?

I never gave you or anyone a deadline to post your rankings. I simply gave you a deadline to tell me when you would be ready to post your rankings.

 

[AcerFC]

So it seems I have been caught between Tim's rule of not posting within 4 hours of another judge and Tim's request of posting all my results or be replaced. I am not looking to be replaced, so here comes the Rebel rankings... I haven't been able to follow much the last few days, so I dont't know if thereis a preferd format, but I will break my rankings into tiers and start from the bottom up.

Rip me all you want, but since I won the GAD, who do you think is correct me or you?

I never gave you or anyone a deadline to post your rankings. I simply gave you a deadline to tell me when you would be ready to post your rankings.

Shhhh, lets get this over with already. He wants to post, let him post.

 

[Fennis]

Tier 5

#20 Nzinga Mbande

A powerful woman and an amazing leader. I really wish she was in the Leader category.

#19 Thich Quang Duc

David Halberstam, a reporter for the New York Times write the below. When reading that and vieweing the famous picture, it gave me chills. Thich Quang Duc inspired his people and was the catalyst that led to the eventual overthrow of Ngo Dinh Diem

I was to see that sight again, but once was enough. Flames were coming from a human being; his body was slowly withering and shriveling up, his head blackening and charring. In the air was the smell of burning human flesh; human beings burn surprisingly quickly. Behind me I could hear the sobbing of the Vietnamese who were now gathering. I was too shocked to cry, too confused to take notes or ask questions, too bewildered to even think…. As he burned he never moved a muscle, never uttered a sound, his outward composure in sharp contrast to the wailing people around him.

#18 Mikhail GorbachevFrom within the system Gorby rose to power. Once he was in power, he became the greatest reformer the Soviet Union has ever seen. He wasn’t trying to cause the collapse of the USSR, but rather save it. A brave man and a patriot he did what was right for his country, IMO he had many unintended results. A better choice here would have been Boris Yeltsin.

'The guilt of Stalin and his immediate entourage before the Party and the people for the mass repressions and lawlessness they committed is enormous and unforgivable.'

#17 Peter Benenson Founded Amnesty International. He helped form a voice for prisoners and others that the most of the world would like to sweep under the rug.

“The candle burns not for us, but for all those whom we failed to rescue from prison, who were shot on the way to prison, who were tortured, who were kidnapped, who "disappeared". That's what the candle is for.”

 

[Fennis]

So it seems I have been caught between Tim's rule of not posting within 4 hours of another judge and Tim's request of posting all my results or be replaced. I am not looking to be replaced, so here comes the Rebel rankings... I haven't been able to follow much the last few days, so I dont't know if thereis a preferd format, but I will break my rankings into tiers and start from the bottom up.

Rip me all you want, but since I won the GAD, who do you think is correct me or you?

I never gave you or anyone a deadline to post your rankings. I simply gave you a deadline to tell me when you would be ready to post your rankings.

this is true.

 

[larry_boy_44]

as far as Mary... if celebrity is defined as "someone who is well known", then Mary qualifies (as does literally everyone else in this draft)...

17. Celebrities Could be movie stars, athletes, other famous people. These are the ones who everywhere they go, people recognize them.

IMO, the bold is a good definition of celebrity and pretty much takes Mary and Tut out of it - although you can argue Tut has been in museums and stuff.

people recognize Mary, sort of... The crazy thing is the picture doesn't even have to be of Mary and they still recognize that they are trying to portray Mary...

 

[BobbyLayne]

Quiet Larry...you're interrupting the procession of Rebels.

 

[Ozymandias]

Acer...Don't get banned. Remove the offending post. You don't have to say that.

 

[thatguy]

Acer...Don't get banned. Remove the offending post. You don't have to say that.

How'd that get through the filter anyway?

 

[Fennis]

T4

#16 Guy Fawkes

Fawkes Gunpowder Plot to blow up Parliament to kill King James I, his family, and most of aristocracy was a bit too big to actually be carried off. His legend moved him up in the rankings.

“Remember, remember the fifth of November,

The gunpowder, treason and plot,

I know of no reason

Why the gunpowder treason

Should ever be forgot.”

“A desperate disease requires a dangerous remedy.”

#15 Fidel Castro If you have ever heard a Fidel Castro speech, you will understand how he can extend a revolution that ended in 1959 for almost 50 more years to 2008. Between the countless assassination attempts and his more recent illness it is apparent the man will never die.

Warfare is a means and not an end. Warfare is a tool of revolutionaries. The important thing is the revolution. The important thing is the revolutionary cause, revolutionary ideas, revolutionary objectives, revolutionary sentiments, revolutionary virtues!

When I was a young boy, my father taught me that to be a good Catholic, I had to confess at church if I ever had impure thoughts about a girl. That very evening, I had to rush to confess my sin. And the next night, and the next. After a week, I decided religion wasn't for me.

#14 Michael Collins He was assassinated during the Irish Civil War for making peace with the British. Prior to that he led the guerrilla war against the British. He died way too young.

Early this morning, I signed my death warrant.

 

[AcerFC]

Acer...Don't get banned. Remove the offending post. You don't have to say that.

Sorry OzmanDidnt mean to offend anyone. Was just trying to be humorous

Acer...Don't get banned. Remove the offending post. You don't have to say that.

How'd that get through the filter anyway?

You went to MIT, I went to BinghamtonPlus 1 for BinghamtonColor coding is your friend

 

[Fennis]

t4 cont'd

#13 William Wallace

Scotland is about as beautiful place on earth. I would fight for it too.

I'm William Wallace, and the rest of you will be spared. Go back to England and tell them... Scotland is free!

#12 Pancho Villa The Mexican Revolutionary. Another legend, particularly in Mexico. He advocated for the poor in Mexico and pushed for many reforms. He would reallocate land among the poor in the territories he controlled. He was considered a Robin Hood type in Mexico.

His attack on New Mexico was the first against the US since the War of 1812.

Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something

#11 Toussaint Louveture I really liked the first paragraph in wiki: in a long struggle for independence Toussaint led enslaved Africans to victory over Europeans, abolished slavery, and secured native control over the colony in 1797 while nominally governor of the colony. He expelled the French commissioner Léger-Félicité Sonthonax, as well as the British armies; invaded Santo Domingo to free the slaves there; and wrote a constitution naming himself governor-for-life that established a new polity for the colony.

I was born a slave, but nature gave me a soul of a free man…

#10 Spartacus So when Spartacus was drafted I had to look up if he was real. I admit I thought he was like Helen of Troy - aa myth. Btw , she was the perfect celebrity in every way, except she is fiction. Turns out he was real. How much we know of him is up to debate, but he led an amazing revolt against the Romans. He started with just a small number of slaves in a revolt, and ended up commanding an army of over 140,000.

I am Spartacus!

#9 Lech WalesaA trade Union organizer, he co-founded the first independent trade union and later became President of a free Poland. Next time you think Unions are too “communist” remember who Lech had to fight for his people’s right to strike.

We hold our heads high, despite the price we have paid, because freedom is priceless.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Acer...Don't get banned. Remove the offending post. You don't have to say that.

How'd that get through the filter anyway?

Did I miss something?

harmless joke, bad word

 

[Fennis]

I f-bombs

 

[Ozymandias]

Acer...Don't get banned. Remove the offending post. You don't have to say that.

How'd that get through the filter anyway?

If you try to do it, you probably can find a way to circumvent it. But one of the reasons I come here is that you can have civilized discourse without people resorting to obscenities.

 

[higgins]

What was the judging criteria for the celebs?

I believe Zaxxon's stated criteria was "that they be well known".It may have been more succinct than that, but I do remember he stopped by to let us know.

Smart###.:loadsgun:

 

[BobbyLayne]

Color coding is your friend

 

[thatguy]

Didn't OC promise us his scientists rankings?

 

[Ozymandias]

Acer...Don't get banned. Remove the offending post. You don't have to say that.

How'd that get through the filter anyway?

If you try to do it, you probably can find a way to circumvent it. But one of the reasons I come here is that you can have civilized discourse without people resorting to obscenities.

You new here?

Yep. I'm a newbie. Of course, I beat you by about 5 years.

 

[Fennis]

t4 cont'd

#8 Vladimir Lenin

Lenin's role in the Russian Revolution and his contribution to Marxism put him here. In power, like many of his fellow “rebels’ Lenin was ruthless.

A revolution is impossible without a revolutionary situation; furthermore, not every revolutionary situation leads to revolution.

t3# 7 Che Guevara

Here’s another guy who went up and in my rankings. He is the modern day symbol for counterculture around the world. No doubt his martyr status led to his higher rankings. He helped Castro overthrow Batista. He helped lead revolutions in Africa (Congo) and Bolivia. His beliefs in a world revolution and his inspiration of others made him a true rebel.

The revolution is not an apple that falls when it is ripe. You have to make it fall.

#6 Maximilian RobespierreHe played a key role in the French Revolution, becoming the voice of the Revolution. When Louis XVI was put on trial, he pushed for his execution by guillotine. Next time you hear power corrupts and absolute posers corrupts absolutely think of Robespierre, as he became the tyranny he fought against.

The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant.

#5 Henry David ThoreauI tried to avoid personal bias, but I don’t know if I succeeded with Thoreau. A strict abolitionist. His thoughts on civil disobedience has greatly influenced key leaders such as Gandhi and MLK. His thoughts and philosophies led to radical shifts in religion, rebellions, environmentalism, culture and many beliefs.

Any fool can make a rule, and any fool will mind it

Do not be too moral. You may cheat yourself out of much life. Aim above morality. Be not simply good; be good for something.

 

[BobbyLayne]

What was the judging criteria for the celebs?

I believe Zaxxon's stated criteria was "that they be well known".It may have been more succinct than that, but I do remember he stopped by to let us know.

Smart###.:loadsgun:

<<<messengerBTW, I think Zaxxon is packing heat as well, so...

 

[higgins]

Acer...Don't get banned. Remove the offending post. You don't have to say that.

How'd that get through the filter anyway?

If you try to do it, you probably can find a way to circumvent it. But one of the reasons I come here is that you can have civilized discourse without people resorting to obscenities.

You new here?

Yep. I'm a newbie. Of course, I beat you by about 5 years.

Oh no... the original MfB is your generation, Ozy -- you may better recognize him as 'slowerde'.

 

[Big Rocks]

Didn't OC Big Rocks promise us his scientists rankings?

Fennis stole my thunder. But that's okay.

 

[BobbyLayne]

#5 Henry David Thoreau

I tried to avoid personal bias, but I don’t know if I succeeded with Thoreau. A strict abolitionist. His thoughts on civil disobedience has greatly influenced key leaders such as Gandhi and MLK. His thoughts and philosophies led to radical shifts in religion, rebellions, environmentalism, culture and many beliefs.

Any fool can make a rule, and any fool will mind it

Do not be too moral. You may cheat yourself out of much life. Aim above morality. Be not simply good; be good for something.

Travismockery!BTW, the quotes...especially Pancho Villa's.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Didn't OC Big Rocks promise us his scientists rankings?

Fennis stole my thunder. But that's okay.

Then bring the lightening!

 

[Fennis]

#4 Nelson Mandela

It is very difficult not to admire this man, especially once he was democratically elected to lead South Africa. He united a country in a way few others could have. A lifetime of struggle, he showed what real leadership is about.

During my lifetime I have dedicated myself to this struggle of the African people. I have fought against white domination, and I have fought against black domination. I have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons will live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an ideal which I hope to live for. But, my lord, if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die.

I detest racialism, because I regard it as a barbaric thing, whether it comes from a black man or a white man.

#3 Mahatma Gandhi His non violent resistance methods, by no means a new idea, however he executed it more successfully and with a larger impact than anyone else in history. Extremely influential to Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, and many others. The man practiced what he preached.

And to top it off, he drank his piss and was at times weirdly celibate.

I am prepared to die, but there is no cause for which I am prepared to kill

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

 

[Ozymandias]

"Oh no... the original MfB is your generation, Ozy -- you may better recognize him as 'slowerde'."

Aliai don't count.

 

[FUBAR]

#4 Nelson Mandela

It is very difficult not to admire this man, especially once he was democratically elected to lead South Africa. He united a country in a way few others could have. A lifetime of struggle, he showed what real leadership is about.

During my lifetime I have dedicated myself to this struggle of the African people. I have fought against white domination, and I have fought against black domination. I have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons will live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an ideal which I hope to live for. But, my lord, if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die.

I detest racialism, because I regard it as a barbaric thing, whether it comes from a black man or a white man.

#3 Mahatma Gandhi His non violent resistance methods, by no means a new idea, however he executed it more successfully and with a larger impact than anyone else in history. Extremely influential to Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, and many others. The man practiced what he preached.

And to top it off, he drank his piss and was at times weirdly celibate.

I am prepared to die, but there is no cause for which I am prepared to kill

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

Something tells me Mandela would be ok being ranked right behind Gandhi. I don't recall who else was drafted and I'm not looking, but they have to be incredible to be above these two.

 

[Fennis]

t2 cont'd

#2 #2 Simón Bolívar

El Liberator. Liberator of Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Panama and founder of Bolivia. Inspired by the American Revolution. It is interesting to me, many of the trappings that have been bandied about in this thread that Washington manage to avoid, Bolivar fell prey to. In the end, he was Bolivarianism (or a bastardized) version continues to thrive today by Hugo Chavez and others.

Colombians! My last wish is for the happiness of the patria. If my death contributes to the end of partisanship and the consolidation of the Union, I shall lowered in peace into my grave

The three greatest fools of History have been Jesus Christ, Don Quixote . . . and me!

T1 by himselfMartin Luther

I kept waiting for someone to surpass Martin Luther, but no one even approached him. The impact Luther had on the modern world could be argued as being second to none. The reformation changed the world. He did it at great personal cost.

Next time I have a great idea, I am finding a church door to hang it on. My postings in the FFA don’t seem to change the world.

I cannot forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict Scripture.

I am more afraid of my own heart than of the pope and all his cardinals. I have within me the great pope, Self.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Rip me all you want, but since I won the GAD, who do you think is correct me or you?

Actually...http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=464374&hl=

...I merely ran out of time.

 

[FUBAR]

I've probably underestimated Bolivar, as just glancing at the names I would have Luther, Gandhi and Mandela above him, but it seems reasonable to have him #2.

 

[Thorn]

Acer...Don't get banned. Remove the offending post. You don't have to say that.

How'd that get through the filter anyway?

If you try to do it, you probably can find a way to circumvent it. But one of the reasons I come here is that you can have civilized discourse without people resorting to obscenities.

You new here?

Yep. I'm a newbie. Of course, I beat you by about 5 years.

 

[Ozymandias]

t2 cont'd

#2 #2 Simón Bolívar

El Liberator. Liberator of Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Panama and founder of Bolivia. Inspired by the American Revolution. It is interesting to me, many of the trappings that have been bandied about in this thread that Washington manage to avoid, Bolivar fell prey to. In the end, he was Bolivarianism (or a bastardized) version continues to thrive today by Hugo Chavez and others.

Colombians! My last wish is for the happiness of the patria. If my death contributes to the end of partisanship and the consolidation of the Union, I shall lowered in peace into my grave

The three greatest fools of History have been Jesus Christ, Don Quixote . . . and me!

T1 by himselfMartin Luther

I kept waiting for someone to surpass Martin Luther, but no one even approached him. The impact Luther had on the modern world could be argued as being second to none. The reformation changed the world. He did it at great personal cost.

Next time I have a great idea, I am finding a church door to hang it on. My postings in the FFA don’t seem to change the world.

I cannot forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict Scripture.

I am more afraid of my own heart than of the pope and all his cardinals. I have within me the great pope, Self.

Pretty good list. There you stand, you can do no other, so help you God.

 

[higgins]

What was the judging criteria for the celebs?

I believe Zaxxon's stated criteria was "that they be well known".It may have been more succinct than that, but I do remember he stopped by to let us know.

Smart###.:loadsgun:

<<<messengerBTW, I think Zaxxon is packing heat as well, so...

I would agree with this, and I will add that the last time I got into an argument with Zaxxon, he offered..."look outside your window....you see that red light?". Zaxxon is indeed someone to be feared....

 

[BobbyLayne]

Great job, Fennis.

Finally, Krista4 has some competition.

 

[Fennis]

Acer...Don't get banned. Remove the offending post. You don't have to say that.

Sorry OzmanDidnt mean to offend anyone. Was just trying to be humorous

Acer...Don't get banned. Remove the offending post. You don't have to say that.

How'd that get through the filter anyway?

You went to MIT, I went to BinghamtonPlus 1 for BinghamtonColor coding is your friend

There were several picks I struggled with, Thich Quang Duc was one of them. I tired to measure impact. What he did was amazing, just not sure how much (lasting) impact beyond his own country. I think he could have ended up a tad too low, but it was hard for me to put him much higher.

 

[Fennis]

Didn't OC Big Rocks promise us his scientists rankings?

Fennis stole my thunder. But that's okay.

Sorry, rank away.

 

[Fennis]

Great job, Fennis.Finally, Krista4 has some competition.

I still think she has better boobs than Fennis.

Manboobs down?

 

[thatguy]

Acer...Don't get banned. Remove the offending post. You don't have to say that.

Sorry OzmanDidnt mean to offend anyone. Was just trying to be humorous

Acer...Don't get banned. Remove the offending post. You don't have to say that.

How'd that get through the filter anyway?

You went to MIT, I went to BinghamtonPlus 1 for Binghamton

Color coding is your friend

There were several picks I struggled with, Thich Quang Duc was one of them. I tired to measure impact. What he did was amazing, just not sure how much (lasting) impact beyond his own country. I think he could have ended up a tad too low, but it was hard for me to put him much higher.

Where would you have ranked this guy?http://www.time.com/time/time100/leaders/profile/rebel.html