BobbyLayne
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The Ruskies were killing it in the early days of the space race, and Gagarin was an international hero.
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World's Greatest Draft (1 Viewer)
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timschochet
Footballguy
I've only read one Victor Hugo novel, but what a novel it is: Les Miserables probably among the top 20 best novels I have ever read. Now these are memorable characters: the heroic Valjean, the law and order Javert, the fiend Thenardier, the naive Marius. The book is also a great defense of Christianity; perhaps the best argument I have ever read for how Christian morals and self-sacrifice can improve one's life. Larry, regarding the argument we had yesterday, this book represents the best of your position. And it is a find romantic read, and very suspenseful. I mentioned that two French novels were among my very favorites, and I expected both authors to be selected; this is one of them.
Van Gogh should be easy top 5. Plus, he cut off a piece of his ear, which has got to say something right? There may be a couple of guys above him though.
One thing I want to add about Vincent- I went to MOMA last year in NY and looked at Starry Starry Night and I was not that impressed. I admit being a neophyte about art, but I'm not sure what makes that painting such a classic, compared to many other works there which I really enjoyed quite a bit more.
Van Gogh should be easy top 5. Plus, he cut off a piece of his ear, which has got to say something right? There may be a couple of guys above him though.
One thing I want to add about Vincent- I went to MOMA last year in NY and looked at Starry Starry Night and I was not that impressed. I admit being a neophyte about art, but I'm not sure what makes that painting such a classic, compared to many other works there which I really enjoyed quite a bit more.
Fennis
Footballguy
The only one who has done better than the Soviets iin space in the late 50's/early 60's is LB in this draft. Of course, the Russians lost the race.
dparker713
Footballguy
Slam dunk #1 in the cat for me.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Not quite as astonishingly good as your other 3 picks, Larry, but very fine all the same. You really have made no mistakes thus far.
Fennis
Footballguy
OK, who stole Larry Boy's log-in?
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
I know about the play Les Miserables from 2 places:1. I took like 16 credits in theatre in college (did kinda badly actually... I really like theatre, but I hated actually working and reading for classes... and they make you do those things and I couldn't just "skate by" like I did in my other classes)...
2. Scrubs... JD loves Les Mis... lol especially when they wanna make him extra feminine...
timschochet
Footballguy
The musical is of course based on the novel. But Larry, you complained earlier that Atlas Shrugged is too long. Be prepared- Les Miserables is longer than Atlas. (But both are worth the time, IMHO.)
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
also...
the difference between a "World's Greatest" draft and a "Greatest Americans" draft is that America for like 50 years or so has been DOMINATED by pop culture...
the last 50 years are irrelevant in terms of the world, but in terms of America is 1/4 of our history...
the difference between a "World's Greatest" draft and a "Greatest Americans" draft is that America for like 50 years or so has been DOMINATED by pop culture...
the last 50 years are irrelevant in terms of the world, but in terms of America is 1/4 of our history...
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Staying with my "originator" theme that became highly influential, I am going to pick a couple of them in this post. Art is viewed and interpreted by the viewer, so while some artists may be deemed "great" there are others that are great in their own way. Not much of an introduction for the following guy other than he helped to coin the term "Impressionism" with one of his paintings. Without further ado, Mario Kart gives you:
4.20 - Claude Monet - Painter
Claude Monet (French pronounced [klod mɔnɛ]) also known as Oscar-Claude Monet or Claude Oscar Monet (14 November 1840 – 5 December 1926)[1] was a founder of French impressionist painting, and the most consistent and prolific practitioner of the movement's philosophy of expressing one's perceptions before nature, especially as applied to plein-air landscape painting.[2] The term Impressionism is derived from the title of his painting Impression, Sunrise.
In 1872 (or 1873), he painted Impression, Sunrise (Impression: soleil levant) depicting a Le Havre landscape. It hung in the first Impressionist exhibition in 1874 and is now displayed in the Musée Marmottan Monet, Paris. From the painting's title, art critic Louis Leroy (no danger of spot lighting) coined the term "Impressionism", which he intended as disparagement but which the Impressionists appropriated for themselves.
Vétheuil dans le brouillard
Haystacks (sunset)
Water Lillies
Houses of Parliament = Awesome
Mario Kart
Leaders -
Military - Sun Tzu (post #45)
Scientist -
Inventor -
Discoverer/Explorer - Giovanni da Pian del Carpine (post #1281)
Humanitarian/Saint/Martyr -
Novelist/Short stories -
Playwrights/Poets - Geoffrey Chaucer (post #1295)
Villain -
Athlete -
Composer -
Musicians/Performers -
Painter - Claude Monet (post #2236)
Artist/Non-Painter -
Philosopher -
Religious Figure -
Celebrity -
Intellectual -
Rebel -
Wildcards -
4.20 - Claude Monet - Painter
Claude Monet (French pronounced [klod mɔnɛ]) also known as Oscar-Claude Monet or Claude Oscar Monet (14 November 1840 – 5 December 1926)[1] was a founder of French impressionist painting, and the most consistent and prolific practitioner of the movement's philosophy of expressing one's perceptions before nature, especially as applied to plein-air landscape painting.[2] The term Impressionism is derived from the title of his painting Impression, Sunrise.
In 1872 (or 1873), he painted Impression, Sunrise (Impression: soleil levant) depicting a Le Havre landscape. It hung in the first Impressionist exhibition in 1874 and is now displayed in the Musée Marmottan Monet, Paris. From the painting's title, art critic Louis Leroy (no danger of spot lighting) coined the term "Impressionism", which he intended as disparagement but which the Impressionists appropriated for themselves.
Vétheuil dans le brouillard
Haystacks (sunset)
Water Lillies
Houses of Parliament = Awesome
Mario Kart
Leaders -
Military - Sun Tzu (post #45)
Scientist -
Inventor -
Discoverer/Explorer - Giovanni da Pian del Carpine (post #1281)
Humanitarian/Saint/Martyr -
Novelist/Short stories -
Playwrights/Poets - Geoffrey Chaucer (post #1295)
Villain -
Athlete -
Composer -
Musicians/Performers -
Painter - Claude Monet (post #2236)
Artist/Non-Painter -
Philosopher -
Religious Figure -
Celebrity -
Intellectual -
Rebel -
Wildcards -
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larry_boy_44
Footballguy
ugh... really?maybe I'll just watch the play (or a movie version... is there a movie version? lol)
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I've looked at art from like half a dozen of the "most famous painters"...
the one I liked BY FAR the most were Monet's paintings... not sure why... lol
I also assumed that he wouldn't be taken for a while and I could, hopefully, wait until the 6th round to take him...
timschochet
Footballguy
Yes- actually a very good movie version starring Liam Neeson and Claire Danes- not a musical.
timschochet
Footballguy
I think Monet is your best choice, Mario.
That being said, depending on what other painters are selected, he could go anywhere from #3 to #20. There's a lot of great painters out there.
That being said, depending on what other painters are selected, he could go anywhere from #3 to #20. There's a lot of great painters out there.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
alright... works over...
I'm leaving right now to go home... I should be there in approximately 20 minutes...
hopefully I'll be able to pick then...
(note: I mean that hopefully I'll be able to decide upon someone, not hopefully Mario Kart will have picked... I have like 16 ways to go right now still and have no clue which one I wanna go...)
I'm leaving right now to go home... I should be there in approximately 20 minutes...
hopefully I'll be able to pick then...
(note: I mean that hopefully I'll be able to decide upon someone, not hopefully Mario Kart will have picked... I have like 16 ways to go right now still and have no clue which one I wanna go...)
Mario Kart
Footballguy
It was him or Van Gogh but I put Monet above van Gogh while others may not. He did help "create" Impressionism which is huge in my book because he helped begin something... a movement of art. Huge.
Fennis
Footballguy
Larry, do yourself a favor, if you are ever to see one real play in your life make it Les Mis.
timschochet
Footballguy
Arsenal of Doom is our painters and artist judge, and he is the one that drafted Vincent Van Gogh. Which means he won't be judging him; he'll be ranking the other 19 selections and it is up to me to figure out where to put Van Gogh. Off the top of my head, he's going to be placed very high, I would think. I'm going to study some more about him and his art over the next week or so to try and make a more informed opinion.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Commenting as the Art judge, this is a great pick and he is definitely first tier. He was one of the founders of the Impressionist movement and his work represents its peak IMO. On a side note, it was difficult to choose Van Gogh over Monet for me, as Monet is a slight personal preferrence. I went with Van Gogh becasue he is a little more directly infuential to later movements, and his story is a little more compelling and well known. I expect Monet to grade out very highly though. Well done.
timschochet
Footballguy
Buddy Holly is one of the great rock and rollers of all time.And as far as Mr. Revere goes...Orange Crush said:
We're discussing "wildcard" greatest Americans of all time, and I'm being asked to rank Paul Revere? IT'S PAUL FREAKIN REVERE!!! Are you kidding me? Legend or not, poem or not, the dude gets a ten.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
#20 is pure hyperbole.3rd seems too high in my book, but this is one those rare picks in a difficult category that should score well, and is so iconic it will blow away all but a couple in the popular vote.He's the golden boy poster child of a major movement - I think I'm just burned out on seeing way too many impressionists exhibits. It's a great pick, but he's just outside the top 5 on my list.Very deep category with masters from many different eras. I do not envy you, A of D.MK - def your best pick of the draft.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Sticking with my art theme, I am going to fill in the other category. Since my Ninja Turtle was taken earlier (Donotello), I had to do some minor researching and make a decision. I am all about originators and movers and I believe I have found one of them with sculpting. He was not widely accepted right away but he did his thing and proved that his work meant something. As the below will show... he moved sculpting into Realism and not Idealism. This is huge, to me, because he showed each sculpture, each person represented means something and is not "created" from an ideal. Another thing many artists do not like, he did. What is that? Upon his death he allowed copies to be made of his art... freely... and make readily available because art is to be seen. To begin the 5th round, Mario Kart selects...
5.01 - Auguste Rodin - Artist / Non-Painter
Auguste Rodin (born François-Auguste-René Rodin; 12 November 1840 – 17 November 1917) was a French artist, most famous as a sculptor. He was the preeminent French sculptor of his time , and remains one of the few sculptors widely recognized outside the visual arts community.
Although Rodin is generally considered the progenitor of modern sculpture,[1] he did not set out to rebel against the past. He was schooled traditionally, took a craftsman-like approach to his work, and desired academic recognition,[2] although he was never accepted into Paris's foremost school of art. Sculpturally, he possessed a unique ability to model a complex, turbulent, deeply pocketed surface in clay.
Many of Rodin's most notable sculptures were roundly criticized during his lifetime. They clashed with the predominant figure sculpture tradition, in which works were decorative, formulaic, or highly thematic. Rodin's most original work departed from traditional themes of mythology and allegory, modeled the human body with realism, and celebrated individual character and physicality. Rodin was sensitive to the controversy about his work, but did not change his style, and successive works brought increasing favor from the government and the artistic community.
From the unexpected realism of his first major figure—inspired by his 1875 trip to Italy—to the unconventional memorials whose commissions he later sought, Rodin's reputation grew. By 1900, he was a world-renowned artist. Wealthy private clients sought Rodin's work after his World's Fair exhibit, and he kept company with a variety of high-profile intellectuals and artists. He married his life-long companion, Rose Beuret, in the last year of both their lives. His sculpture suffered a decline in popularity after his death in 1917, but within a few decades his legacy solidified.
Rodin willed to the state his studio and the right to make casts from his plasters. Because he encouraged the reproduction of his work, Rodin's sculptures are represented in many collections. The Musée Rodin was founded in 1919 at the Hôtel Biron, where Rodin had lived, and it holds the largest Rodin collection. The relative ease of making reproductions has also encouraged many forgeries: a survey of expert opinion placed Rodin in the top ten most-faked artists.[59] To deal with unauthorized reproductions, the Musée in 1956 set twelve casts as the maximum number that could be made from Rodin's plasters and still be considered his work. (As a result of this limit, The Burghers of Calais, for example, is found in 14 cities.)[29]
The Gates of Hell (unfinished)
The Walking Man
The Thinker
Mario Kart
Leaders -
Military - Sun Tzu (post #45) (1.01)
Scientist -
Inventor -
Discoverer/Explorer - Giovanni da Pian del Carpine (post #1281) (2.20)
Humanitarian/Saint/Martyr -
Novelist/Short stories -
Playwrights/Poets - Geoffrey Chaucer (post #1295) (3.01)
Villain -
Athlete -
Composer -
Musicians/Performers -
Painter - Claude Monet (post #2236) (4.20)
Artist/Non-Painter - Auguste Rodin (post #2248) (5.01)
Philosopher -
Religious Figure -
Celebrity -
Intellectual -
Rebel -
Wildcards -
5.01 - Auguste Rodin - Artist / Non-Painter
Auguste Rodin (born François-Auguste-René Rodin; 12 November 1840 – 17 November 1917) was a French artist, most famous as a sculptor. He was the preeminent French sculptor of his time , and remains one of the few sculptors widely recognized outside the visual arts community.
Although Rodin is generally considered the progenitor of modern sculpture,[1] he did not set out to rebel against the past. He was schooled traditionally, took a craftsman-like approach to his work, and desired academic recognition,[2] although he was never accepted into Paris's foremost school of art. Sculpturally, he possessed a unique ability to model a complex, turbulent, deeply pocketed surface in clay.
Many of Rodin's most notable sculptures were roundly criticized during his lifetime. They clashed with the predominant figure sculpture tradition, in which works were decorative, formulaic, or highly thematic. Rodin's most original work departed from traditional themes of mythology and allegory, modeled the human body with realism, and celebrated individual character and physicality. Rodin was sensitive to the controversy about his work, but did not change his style, and successive works brought increasing favor from the government and the artistic community.
From the unexpected realism of his first major figure—inspired by his 1875 trip to Italy—to the unconventional memorials whose commissions he later sought, Rodin's reputation grew. By 1900, he was a world-renowned artist. Wealthy private clients sought Rodin's work after his World's Fair exhibit, and he kept company with a variety of high-profile intellectuals and artists. He married his life-long companion, Rose Beuret, in the last year of both their lives. His sculpture suffered a decline in popularity after his death in 1917, but within a few decades his legacy solidified.
Rodin willed to the state his studio and the right to make casts from his plasters. Because he encouraged the reproduction of his work, Rodin's sculptures are represented in many collections. The Musée Rodin was founded in 1919 at the Hôtel Biron, where Rodin had lived, and it holds the largest Rodin collection. The relative ease of making reproductions has also encouraged many forgeries: a survey of expert opinion placed Rodin in the top ten most-faked artists.[59] To deal with unauthorized reproductions, the Musée in 1956 set twelve casts as the maximum number that could be made from Rodin's plasters and still be considered his work. (As a result of this limit, The Burghers of Calais, for example, is found in 14 cities.)[29]
The Gates of Hell (unfinished)
The Walking Man
The Thinker
Mario Kart
Leaders -
Military - Sun Tzu (post #45) (1.01)
Scientist -
Inventor -
Discoverer/Explorer - Giovanni da Pian del Carpine (post #1281) (2.20)
Humanitarian/Saint/Martyr -
Novelist/Short stories -
Playwrights/Poets - Geoffrey Chaucer (post #1295) (3.01)
Villain -
Athlete -
Composer -
Musicians/Performers -
Painter - Claude Monet (post #2236) (4.20)
Artist/Non-Painter - Auguste Rodin (post #2248) (5.01)
Philosopher -
Religious Figure -
Celebrity -
Intellectual -
Rebel -
Wildcards -
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Mario Kart
Footballguy
We had the same dilemma. If you take Monet, I hate you, but I take van Gogh. You take van Gogh, I like you, and I take Monet. As long as larry did not screw it up, which he did not but could have based on his comment. I will rest happily tonight. And, my guy I made reference to back with my 3rd round pick is still there and I did not grab him... so I am taking a chance.
krista4
Footballguy
I LOVE this pick and hope it gets you a good score. The Rodin Museum is my favorite of all the great places in Paris. Guess I've always preferred sculpture to painting anyway, but Rodin's work just blows me away. Brilliant.
timschochet
Footballguy
two very good picks in a row, Mario- this one is perhaps even better than the other one. Rodin is, next to Michelangelo, considered perhaps the greatest sculptor who ever lived.
Fennis
Footballguy
The first museum I went to in Paris was Musée Rodin. I'm a big fan, great pick.
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Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Rodin is another really good pick who I expect to score out well. The only difficult thing to factor in that category is that is has been left very broad, encompassing all non-painters. It could be very crowded at the top when all is said and done.Since the Artists have started to go off of the board, I'll post my criteria for evaluating again:Importance to their individual movement(s) (founding or representing the height of the movement)Influence on subsequent movements (or later Artists in the same)Innovation or advancement of their medium(s)Global recognitionCreation of widely recognized masterpieces (Art that the layperson would recognize, and know who did it)Intangibles (facts or body of work that add to the overall historical influence of the Artist)
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Mario Kart
Footballguy
Looks like larry is back.
Edit - or maybe not.
Edit - or maybe not.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
I take back what I said about Monet.THIS is your best pick of the draft - monster in the category. Well done.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I like the way the French do art. If money was no thing, I would go to Paris to visit the Lourve and spend a day in that place... or more. Then, I would get into a fight with a freaking mime outside.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Fennis
Footballguy
Paris is my all time favorite city. If you haven’t been, go. Mime or no mime.
And don’t believe what people say about the French.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I love my Sun Tzu pick because I was able to start this thing off in a non-conventional way. It also showed I was not going to take the popular route. I probably could have let Carpini go but after five picks, I have stuck to my principles. Can't deny that. I will have to move away from them at some point but for now I am happy. Monet is a personal favorite though.
Abrantes
Footballguy
Monster pick for the category. This is who I was thinking of when I said that I didn't really consider Michelangelo to be the #1 sculptor on the board.
timschochet
Footballguy
Speaking of France, 5 out of the last 6 picks taken are French.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
I've seen a number of plays...I saw The Laramie Project (very good)...
I saw some small play about some woman in the middle east somewhere (very small local theatre, not very good)...
also saw a play at the Riverside (big theatre in town) about two brothers who have to watch some house in Arizona... one is kinda geeky and one is kind of a drifter... I don't remember what it was called... its a classic of some sort... It was ok...
I think that's it... always wanted to go to more, but don't really have anyone to go with...
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
I had Monet ready to be picked...I decided against it because I was hoping he'd last as I figured a few other painters would go first...I was VERY wrong...
Mario Kart
Footballguy
When I saw van Gogh get picked, I was sure hoping that would not steer you towards art. Round four would have been a heartbreaker if Donatello, Van Gogh, and Monet were picked before me. That would have been three snipes in ten picks. Sure, there are other painters but I know most about Monet.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
I was leaning towards painter since I picked in round 3...but when the pick got here I went "all but one painter that I wanted is still on the board'...
Mario Kart
Footballguy
larry and arsenal are here... FUBAR could begin on the clock later today.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
How far out are we from your pick Larry? I need to get to sleep soon. I'll PM it to someone if it's not going to be in the next 10 minutes.
timschochet
Footballguy
Gotta turn in.
I will update in the morning...good night everybody!
I will update in the morning...good night everybody!
Orange Crush
Footballguy
Easily my favorite artist in any format. I found his work astonishing in his ability to cast a completely life-like and non-idealized figure, and be able to tell an emotional story just through its posture and positioning. I was actually first introduced to Rodin's work through reading Stranger in a Strange Land, as there's a rather lengthy tribute to him within. Then my wife visited the Musee Rodin in Europe and came back raving about his work. Then I got to see an exhibit of his work that came here to North Carolina several years ago, and finally I got to see some other pieces of his in person on a vacation to California (including a version of the Burghers of Calais on Stanford's campus).
Great value for the 5th round.
krista4
Footballguy
That's my second-favorite, after Rodin.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
5.2 - Gian Lorenzo Bernini, non-painter artist
I've seen him highly regarded in a few different places...
and i really like the sculptures I saw that he did...
Blessed Ludovica Albertoni.
Piazza navona, Fontana del Moro Rome,
Angel with Crown of Thorns.
* Bust of Giovanni Battista Santoni (c. 1612) - Marble, life-size, Santa Prassede, Rome
* Martyrdom of St. Lawrence (1614-1615) - Marble, 66 x 108 cm, Contini Bonacossi Collection, Florence
* The Goat Amalthea with the Infant Jupiter and a Faun (1615) - Marble, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* St. Sebastian (c. 1617) - Marble, Thyssen Bornemisza Museum, Madrid
* A Faun Teased by Children (1616-1617) - Marble, height 132,1 cm, Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York
* Aeneas, Anchises, and Ascanius (1618-1619) - Marble, height 220 cm, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* Damned Soul (1619) - Palazzo di Spagna, Rome
* Blessed Soul (1619) - Palazzo di Spagna, Rome
* Apollo and Daphne (1622-1625) - Marble, height 243 cm, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* St. Peter's Baldachin (1624) - Bronze, partly gilt, Basilica di San Pietro, Vatican City
* Charity with Four Children (1627-1628) - Terracotta, height 39 cm, Museo Sacro, Musei Vaticani, Vatican
* David (1623-1624) - Marble, height 170 cm, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* Fontana della Barcaccia (1627-1628) - Marble, Piazza di Spagna, Rome
* Bust of Monsignor Pedro de Foix Montoya (c. 1621) - Marble, life-size, Santa Maria di Monserrato, Rome
* Neptune and Triton (1620) - Marble, height 182,2 cm, Victoria and Albert Museum, London
* The Rape of Proserpina (1621-1622) - Marble, height 295 cm, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* Fontana del Tritone (1624-1643) - Travertine, over life-size, Piazza Barberini, Rome
* Tomb of Pope Urban VIII (1627-1647) - Golden bronze and marble, figures larger than life-size, Basilica di San Pietro, Vatican City
* Bust of Thomas Baker (1638) - Marble, height 81,6 cm, Victoria and Albert Museum, London
* Bust of Costanza Bonarelli (c. 1635) - Marble, height 70 cm, Museo Nazionale del Bargello, Florence
* Charity with Two Children (1634) - Terracotta, height 41.6 cm, Museo Sacro, Musei Vaticani, Vatican City
* Saint Longinus (1631-1638) - Marble, height 450 cm, Basilica di San Pietro, Vatican City
* Bust of Scipione Borghese (1632) - Marble, height 78 cm, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* Bust of Cardinal Scipione Borghese (1632) - Marble, Basilica di San Pietro, Vatican City
* Bust of Pope Urban VIII (1632-1633) - Bronze, height 100 cm, Museo Sacro, Musei Vaticani, Vatican City
* Bust of Cardinal Armand de Richelieu (1640-1641) - Marble, Musée du Louvre, Paris
* Memorial to Maria Raggi (1643) - Gilt bronze and coloured marble, Santa Maria sopra Minerva, Rome
* Truth (1645-1652) - Marble, height 280 cm, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* Bust of Pope Leo X (1647) Palazzo Doria Pamphilij, Rome
* Ecstasy of St Theresa (1647-1652) - Marble, Cappella Cornaro, Santa Maria della Vittoria, Rome
* Loggia of the Founders (1647-1652) Marble, Cappella Cornaro, Santa Maria della Vittoria, Rome
* Bust of Urban VIII - Marble, Basilica di San Pietro, Vatican City
* Fontana dei Quattro Fiumi (1648-1651) - Travertine and marble, Piazza Navona, Rome
* Corpus (sculpture) (1650) - Bronze, Art Gallery of Ontario, Toronto, Canada.
* Daniel and the Lion (1650) - Marble, Santa Maria del Popolo, Rome
* Francesco I d'Este (1650-1651) - Marble, height 107 cm, Galleria Estense, Modena
* Fountain of the Moor (1653-1654) - Marble, Piazza Navona, Rome
* Constantine (1654-1670) - Marble, Palazzi Pontifici, Vatican City
* Daniel and the Lion (1655) - Terracotta, height 41.6 cm, Museo Sacro, Musei Vaticani, Vatican City
* Habakkuk and the Angel (1655) - Terracotta, height 52 cm, Museo Sacro, Musei Vaticani, Vatican City
* Altar Cross (1657-1661) - Gilt bronze corpus on bronze cross, height: corpus 43 cm, cross 185 cm, Treasury of San Pietro, Vatican City
* Throne of Saint Peter (1657-1666) - Marble, bronze, white and golden stucco, Basilica di San Pietro, Rome
* Statue of Saint Augustine (1657-1666) - Bronze, Basilica di San Pietro, Vatican City
* Constantine (1663-1670) - Marble with painted stucco drapery, Scala Regia, Vatican Palace, Rome
* Standing Angel with Scroll (1667-1668) - Clay, terracotta, height: 29,2 cm, Fogg Art Museum, Cambridge
* Angel with the Crown of Thorns (1667-1669) - Marble, over life-size, Sant'Andrea delle Fratte, Rome
* Angel with the Superscription (1667-1669) - Marble, over life-size, Sant'Andrea delle Fratte, Rome
* Elephant of Minerva (1667-1669) - Marble, Piazza di Santa Maria sopra Minerva, Rome
* Bust of Gabriele Fonseca (1668-1675) - Marble, over life-size, San Lorenzo in Lucina, Rome
* Equestrian Statue of King Louis XIV (1669-1670) - Terracotta, height 76 cm, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* Bust of Louis XIV (1665) - Marble, height 80 cm, Musée National de Versailles, Versailles
* Herm of St. Stephen, King of Hungary - Bronze, Cathedral Treasury, Zagreb
* Saint Jerome (1661-1663) - Marble, height 180 cm, Cappella Chigi, Duomo, Siena
* Tomb of Pope Alexander VII (1671-1678) - Marble and gilded bronze, over life-size, Basilica di San Pietro, Vatican City
* Blessed Ludovica Albertoni (1671-1674) - Marble, Cappella Altieri-Albertoni, San Francesco a Ripa, Rome
[edit] Paintings
Bernini's activity as a painter was a sideline which he did mainly in his youth. Despite this his work reveals a sure and brilliant hand, free from any trace of pedantry. He studied in Rome under his father, Pietro, and soon proved a precocious infant prodigy. His work was immediately sought after by major collectors.
* Saint Andrew and Saint Thomas (c. 1627) - Oil on canvas, 59 x 76 cm, National Gallery, London
* Portrait of a Boy (c. 1638) - Oil on canvas, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* Self-Portrait as a Young Man (c. 1623) - Oil on canvas, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* Self-Portrait as a Mature Man (1630-1635) - Oil on canvas, Galleria Borghese, Rome
I've seen him highly regarded in a few different places...
and i really like the sculptures I saw that he did...
works:Sculpture
Blessed Ludovica Albertoni.
Piazza navona, Fontana del Moro Rome,
Angel with Crown of Thorns.
* Bust of Giovanni Battista Santoni (c. 1612) - Marble, life-size, Santa Prassede, Rome
* Martyrdom of St. Lawrence (1614-1615) - Marble, 66 x 108 cm, Contini Bonacossi Collection, Florence
* The Goat Amalthea with the Infant Jupiter and a Faun (1615) - Marble, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* St. Sebastian (c. 1617) - Marble, Thyssen Bornemisza Museum, Madrid
* A Faun Teased by Children (1616-1617) - Marble, height 132,1 cm, Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York
* Aeneas, Anchises, and Ascanius (1618-1619) - Marble, height 220 cm, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* Damned Soul (1619) - Palazzo di Spagna, Rome
* Blessed Soul (1619) - Palazzo di Spagna, Rome
* Apollo and Daphne (1622-1625) - Marble, height 243 cm, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* St. Peter's Baldachin (1624) - Bronze, partly gilt, Basilica di San Pietro, Vatican City
* Charity with Four Children (1627-1628) - Terracotta, height 39 cm, Museo Sacro, Musei Vaticani, Vatican
* David (1623-1624) - Marble, height 170 cm, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* Fontana della Barcaccia (1627-1628) - Marble, Piazza di Spagna, Rome
* Bust of Monsignor Pedro de Foix Montoya (c. 1621) - Marble, life-size, Santa Maria di Monserrato, Rome
* Neptune and Triton (1620) - Marble, height 182,2 cm, Victoria and Albert Museum, London
* The Rape of Proserpina (1621-1622) - Marble, height 295 cm, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* Fontana del Tritone (1624-1643) - Travertine, over life-size, Piazza Barberini, Rome
* Tomb of Pope Urban VIII (1627-1647) - Golden bronze and marble, figures larger than life-size, Basilica di San Pietro, Vatican City
* Bust of Thomas Baker (1638) - Marble, height 81,6 cm, Victoria and Albert Museum, London
* Bust of Costanza Bonarelli (c. 1635) - Marble, height 70 cm, Museo Nazionale del Bargello, Florence
* Charity with Two Children (1634) - Terracotta, height 41.6 cm, Museo Sacro, Musei Vaticani, Vatican City
* Saint Longinus (1631-1638) - Marble, height 450 cm, Basilica di San Pietro, Vatican City
* Bust of Scipione Borghese (1632) - Marble, height 78 cm, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* Bust of Cardinal Scipione Borghese (1632) - Marble, Basilica di San Pietro, Vatican City
* Bust of Pope Urban VIII (1632-1633) - Bronze, height 100 cm, Museo Sacro, Musei Vaticani, Vatican City
* Bust of Cardinal Armand de Richelieu (1640-1641) - Marble, Musée du Louvre, Paris
* Memorial to Maria Raggi (1643) - Gilt bronze and coloured marble, Santa Maria sopra Minerva, Rome
* Truth (1645-1652) - Marble, height 280 cm, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* Bust of Pope Leo X (1647) Palazzo Doria Pamphilij, Rome
* Ecstasy of St Theresa (1647-1652) - Marble, Cappella Cornaro, Santa Maria della Vittoria, Rome
* Loggia of the Founders (1647-1652) Marble, Cappella Cornaro, Santa Maria della Vittoria, Rome
* Bust of Urban VIII - Marble, Basilica di San Pietro, Vatican City
* Fontana dei Quattro Fiumi (1648-1651) - Travertine and marble, Piazza Navona, Rome
* Corpus (sculpture) (1650) - Bronze, Art Gallery of Ontario, Toronto, Canada.
* Daniel and the Lion (1650) - Marble, Santa Maria del Popolo, Rome
* Francesco I d'Este (1650-1651) - Marble, height 107 cm, Galleria Estense, Modena
* Fountain of the Moor (1653-1654) - Marble, Piazza Navona, Rome
* Constantine (1654-1670) - Marble, Palazzi Pontifici, Vatican City
* Daniel and the Lion (1655) - Terracotta, height 41.6 cm, Museo Sacro, Musei Vaticani, Vatican City
* Habakkuk and the Angel (1655) - Terracotta, height 52 cm, Museo Sacro, Musei Vaticani, Vatican City
* Altar Cross (1657-1661) - Gilt bronze corpus on bronze cross, height: corpus 43 cm, cross 185 cm, Treasury of San Pietro, Vatican City
* Throne of Saint Peter (1657-1666) - Marble, bronze, white and golden stucco, Basilica di San Pietro, Rome
* Statue of Saint Augustine (1657-1666) - Bronze, Basilica di San Pietro, Vatican City
* Constantine (1663-1670) - Marble with painted stucco drapery, Scala Regia, Vatican Palace, Rome
* Standing Angel with Scroll (1667-1668) - Clay, terracotta, height: 29,2 cm, Fogg Art Museum, Cambridge
* Angel with the Crown of Thorns (1667-1669) - Marble, over life-size, Sant'Andrea delle Fratte, Rome
* Angel with the Superscription (1667-1669) - Marble, over life-size, Sant'Andrea delle Fratte, Rome
* Elephant of Minerva (1667-1669) - Marble, Piazza di Santa Maria sopra Minerva, Rome
* Bust of Gabriele Fonseca (1668-1675) - Marble, over life-size, San Lorenzo in Lucina, Rome
* Equestrian Statue of King Louis XIV (1669-1670) - Terracotta, height 76 cm, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* Bust of Louis XIV (1665) - Marble, height 80 cm, Musée National de Versailles, Versailles
* Herm of St. Stephen, King of Hungary - Bronze, Cathedral Treasury, Zagreb
* Saint Jerome (1661-1663) - Marble, height 180 cm, Cappella Chigi, Duomo, Siena
* Tomb of Pope Alexander VII (1671-1678) - Marble and gilded bronze, over life-size, Basilica di San Pietro, Vatican City
* Blessed Ludovica Albertoni (1671-1674) - Marble, Cappella Altieri-Albertoni, San Francesco a Ripa, Rome
[edit] Paintings
Bernini's activity as a painter was a sideline which he did mainly in his youth. Despite this his work reveals a sure and brilliant hand, free from any trace of pedantry. He studied in Rome under his father, Pietro, and soon proved a precocious infant prodigy. His work was immediately sought after by major collectors.
* Saint Andrew and Saint Thomas (c. 1627) - Oil on canvas, 59 x 76 cm, National Gallery, London
* Portrait of a Boy (c. 1638) - Oil on canvas, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* Self-Portrait as a Young Man (c. 1623) - Oil on canvas, Galleria Borghese, Rome
* Self-Portrait as a Mature Man (1630-1635) - Oil on canvas, Galleria Borghese, Rome
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Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
I hate this pick, when I know I have a long, long wait ahead and so many worthy people on my draft list. I thought I might hold off on authors for a while, but a pick that I think has too much value is still sitting there. I had him behind Joyce on my own list, but he’s an author who should certainly get consideration for #1 in the novel and short story category, since he authored what is considered to be the first modern novel. He’s a contemporary of my first pick, and the two are often linked as having the greatest overall influence on western literature.
Miguel de Cervantes - Novel/Short Story writer
Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra (Spanish pronunciation: [miˈɣel ðe θerˈβantes saˈβeðɾa] in modern Spanish; September 29, 1547 – April 23, 1616) was a Spanish novelist, poet, and playwright. His magnum opus, Don Quixote, considered the first modern novel by many,[1] is a classic of Western literature and is regularly regarded among the best novels ever written. His work is considered among the most important in all of literature.[2] His influence on the Spanish language has been so great, that Spanish is often called la lengua de Cervantes (The language of Cervantes).[3] He has been dubbed el Príncipe de los Ingenios the Prince of Wits.
Cervantes, born at Alcalá de Henares, was the fourth of seven children of Rodrigo de Cervantes, a surgeon born at Alcalá de Henares in a family whose origins may have been of the minor gentry, and wife, married in 1543, Leonor de Cortinas, who died on October 19, 1593. The family moved from town to town, and little is known of Cervantes's early years. In 1569, Cervantes moved to Italy, where he entered as valet into the service of Giulio Acquaviva, a wealthy priest who was elevated to cardinal the next year. By then Cervantes had enlisted as a soldier in a Spanish infantry regiment and continued his military life until 1575, when he was captured by Algerian pirates. He was ransomed by his captors and the Trinitarians and returned to his family in Madrid.
In 1585, Cervantes published a pastoral novel, La Galatea. Because of financial problems, Cervantes worked as a purveyor for the Spanish Armada, and later as a tax collector. In 1597 discrepancies in his accounts of three years previous landed him in the Crown Jail of Seville. In 1605 he was in Valladolid, just when the immediate success of the first part of his Don Quijote, published in Madrid, signaled his return to the literary world. In 1607, he settled in Madrid, where he lived and worked until his death. During the last nine years of his life, Cervantes solidified his reputation as a writer; he published the Exemplary Novels (Novelas ejemplares) in 1613, the Journey to Parnassus in 1614, and in 1615, the Ocho comedias y ocho entremeses and the second part of Don Quixote. xxxxxxx noted that, "Cervantes leaves open the pages of a book where the reader knows himself to be written."[4]
Cervantes' historical importance and influence
Cervantes' novel Don Quixote has had a tremendous influence on the development of prose fiction. It has been translated into all major languages and has appeared in 700 editions. The first translation was in English, made by Thomas Shelton in 1608, but not published until 1612. Shakespeare had evidently read Don Quixote, but it is most unlikely that Cervantes had ever heard of Shakespeare. xxxxxxx raised the possibility that Cervantes and Shakespeare were the same person.
Don Quixote 's influence can be seen in the work of xxxxxxx, xxxxxxx, xxxxxx, and xxxxxx, as well as in the classic 19th-century novelists xxxxxx, Dickens, xxxxxx, xxxxxx, and xxxxxxx, and in the works of James Joyce and xxxxxxxx. The theme of the novel also inspired the 19th-century French artists xxxxxxx and xxxxxxxxxx.
The Euro coins of €0.10, €0.20, and €0.50 made for Spain bear the portrait and signature of Cervantes.
The Biblioteca Virtual Miguel de Cervantes, a digital library, hosted by the University of Alicante, the largest digital archive of Spanish-language historical and literary works in the world, is named after Cervantes.
Miguel de Cervantes - Novel/Short Story writer
Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra (Spanish pronunciation: [miˈɣel ðe θerˈβantes saˈβeðɾa] in modern Spanish; September 29, 1547 – April 23, 1616) was a Spanish novelist, poet, and playwright. His magnum opus, Don Quixote, considered the first modern novel by many,[1] is a classic of Western literature and is regularly regarded among the best novels ever written. His work is considered among the most important in all of literature.[2] His influence on the Spanish language has been so great, that Spanish is often called la lengua de Cervantes (The language of Cervantes).[3] He has been dubbed el Príncipe de los Ingenios the Prince of Wits.
Cervantes, born at Alcalá de Henares, was the fourth of seven children of Rodrigo de Cervantes, a surgeon born at Alcalá de Henares in a family whose origins may have been of the minor gentry, and wife, married in 1543, Leonor de Cortinas, who died on October 19, 1593. The family moved from town to town, and little is known of Cervantes's early years. In 1569, Cervantes moved to Italy, where he entered as valet into the service of Giulio Acquaviva, a wealthy priest who was elevated to cardinal the next year. By then Cervantes had enlisted as a soldier in a Spanish infantry regiment and continued his military life until 1575, when he was captured by Algerian pirates. He was ransomed by his captors and the Trinitarians and returned to his family in Madrid.
In 1585, Cervantes published a pastoral novel, La Galatea. Because of financial problems, Cervantes worked as a purveyor for the Spanish Armada, and later as a tax collector. In 1597 discrepancies in his accounts of three years previous landed him in the Crown Jail of Seville. In 1605 he was in Valladolid, just when the immediate success of the first part of his Don Quijote, published in Madrid, signaled his return to the literary world. In 1607, he settled in Madrid, where he lived and worked until his death. During the last nine years of his life, Cervantes solidified his reputation as a writer; he published the Exemplary Novels (Novelas ejemplares) in 1613, the Journey to Parnassus in 1614, and in 1615, the Ocho comedias y ocho entremeses and the second part of Don Quixote. xxxxxxx noted that, "Cervantes leaves open the pages of a book where the reader knows himself to be written."[4]
Cervantes' historical importance and influence
Cervantes' novel Don Quixote has had a tremendous influence on the development of prose fiction. It has been translated into all major languages and has appeared in 700 editions. The first translation was in English, made by Thomas Shelton in 1608, but not published until 1612. Shakespeare had evidently read Don Quixote, but it is most unlikely that Cervantes had ever heard of Shakespeare. xxxxxxx raised the possibility that Cervantes and Shakespeare were the same person.
Don Quixote 's influence can be seen in the work of xxxxxxx, xxxxxxx, xxxxxx, and xxxxxx, as well as in the classic 19th-century novelists xxxxxx, Dickens, xxxxxx, xxxxxx, and xxxxxxx, and in the works of James Joyce and xxxxxxxx. The theme of the novel also inspired the 19th-century French artists xxxxxxx and xxxxxxxxxx.
The Euro coins of €0.10, €0.20, and €0.50 made for Spain bear the portrait and signature of Cervantes.
The Biblioteca Virtual Miguel de Cervantes, a digital library, hosted by the University of Alicante, the largest digital archive of Spanish-language historical and literary works in the world, is named after Cervantes.
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krista4
Footballguy
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Nice pick. I am unfamiliar with any of his other works, but the idioms and phrases from Don Quixote alone would fill a tome by itself.I would bet dollars to donuts that this was MK's author choice.
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