Would you have a beef with this? (1 Viewer)

[Rick James]

Some of you guys get worked up over the strangest things.

The teacher singled out his daughter because she didn't like something that the daughter told to her parents. Do you think that's an appropriate use of her authority in a school room setting?

It was the obvious and predictable result.Right or wrong.. How could anyone think otherwise?

I would think otherwise. I have several friends that are teachers. I would expect them to be have professionally. Maybe you think all teachers are just petty people or something, I guess I just have different expectations.

You can put anyone you want up on your pedestal.

I tend to think of people as people.

This is a poor example of weighing the pros and cons of a decision.

Pros... Can't think of anything that was ever going to be gained here? That you could say you stood up for something?

Cons... Here we are.

I disagree. Teacher needs to be told not to encourage my kid to lie to me. It's really that simple. I'm not putting up with that.

Did she say to lie if you asked her? Or just not to bring it up. Big difference.

give me a break. If your kid did something bad and just never spilled the beans you'd still punish them for lying by omission right?

 

[AcerFC]

I have a problem with all of it, especially the cell phone usage. Yeah teachers are humans too and sometimes have personal issues they need to deal with asap but if she's using the phone in class to such a degree that she has to tell students not to tell their parents, then that is a problem.

Principal is a moron who doesn't understand indiscretion. A simple "hey a parent spoke to me the other day..." would have solved all of this.

The best part about this, since it has happened to me, is that you spend all week trying to figure out which little buggers parents came in

 

[jamny]

Some of you guys get worked up over the strangest things.

The teacher singled out his daughter because she didn't like something that the daughter told to her parents. Do you think that's an appropriate use of her authority in a school room setting?

It was the obvious and predictable result.Right or wrong.. How could anyone think otherwise?

I would think otherwise. I have several friends that are teachers. I would expect them to be have professionally. Maybe you think all teachers are just petty people or something, I guess I just have different expectations.

You can put anyone you want up on your pedestal.

I tend to think of people as people.

This is a poor example of weighing the pros and cons of a decision.

Pros... Can't think of anything that was ever going to be gained here? That you could say you stood up for something?

Cons... Here we are.

I disagree. Teacher needs to be told not to encourage my kid to lie to me. It's really that simple. I'm not putting up with that.

Did she say to lie if you asked her? Or just not to bring it up. Big difference.

give me a break. If your kid did something bad and just never spilled the beans you'd still punish them for lying by omission right?

That's nothing like what I said.

 

[Rick James]

Some of you guys get worked up over the strangest things.

The teacher singled out his daughter because she didn't like something that the daughter told to her parents. Do you think that's an appropriate use of her authority in a school room setting?

It was the obvious and predictable result.Right or wrong.. How could anyone think otherwise?

I would think otherwise. I have several friends that are teachers. I would expect them to be have professionally. Maybe you think all teachers are just petty people or something, I guess I just have different expectations.

You can put anyone you want up on your pedestal.

I tend to think of people as people.

This is a poor example of weighing the pros and cons of a decision.

Pros... Can't think of anything that was ever going to be gained here? That you could say you stood up for something?

Cons... Here we are.

I disagree. Teacher needs to be told not to encourage my kid to lie to me. It's really that simple. I'm not putting up with that.

Did she say to lie if you asked her? Or just not to bring it up. Big difference.

give me a break. If your kid did something bad and just never spilled the beans you'd still punish them for lying by omission right?

That's nothing like what I said.

I don't understand then. Both of the options you laid out reflect poorly on the teacher. What is your point?

 

[jamny]

Some of you guys get worked up over the strangest things.

The teacher singled out his daughter because she didn't like something that the daughter told to her parents. Do you think that's an appropriate use of her authority in a school room setting?

It was the obvious and predictable result.Right or wrong.. How could anyone think otherwise?

I would think otherwise. I have several friends that are teachers. I would expect them to be have professionally. Maybe you think all teachers are just petty people or something, I guess I just have different expectations.

You can put anyone you want up on your pedestal.

I tend to think of people as people.

This is a poor example of weighing the pros and cons of a decision.

Pros... Can't think of anything that was ever going to be gained here? That you could say you stood up for something?

Cons... Here we are.

I disagree. Teacher needs to be told not to encourage my kid to lie to me. It's really that simple. I'm not putting up with that.

Did she say to lie if you asked her? Or just not to bring it up. Big difference.

give me a break. If your kid did something bad and just never spilled the beans you'd still punish them for lying by omission right?

That's nothing like what I said.

I don't understand then. Both of the options you laid out reflect poorly on the teacher. What is your point?

I didn't say the teacher is right in either example but it sounds like the teacher didn't ask the kids to lie.

Big difference, imo.

 

[Kraft...]

Also, you seem to have forgotten the important point here....your daughter told you anyway. Leave it alone and keep milking her for information until she has something really important to report

Totally agree the teacher is in the wrong here but the kid was smart enough to know she shouldn't keep secrets from her parents. Great parent to kid teaching moment. "What your teacher did was wrong but you did the right thing telling us, nice job" <end>

 

[jhib]

Some of you guys get worked up over the strangest things.

I'm most irate over the homonym fails. It's ####### "principal".

Normally, sure.

But this one doesn't really seem to be Sabertooth's pal.

 

[johnnycakes]

Is the teacher on the phone during class? Wtf? Is the teacher a FBG or what?

 

[MC Gas Money]

Sleep with the teachers husband

 

[Sabertooth]

Is the teacher on the phone during class? Wtf?

Yes, often enough that she felt the need to tell the class not to tell their parents.

Also, apparently at a different school (1st grade) last year she had issues with being on the phone during class. This caused the principal there to ban phone usage for all the teachers. A teacher at that school relayed this information.

But again, my issue isn't the phone use. As long is my daughter is learning, I don't have a problem with that.

 

[AcerFC]

Is the teacher on the phone during class? Wtf?

Yes, often enough that she felt the need to tell the class not to tell their parents.

Also, apparently at a different school (1st grade) last year she had issues with being on the phone during class. This caused the principal there to ban phone usage for all the teachers. A teacher at that school relayed this information.

But again, my issue isn't the phone use. As long is my daughter is learning, I don't have a problem with that.

Its not right though

I always tell people they cant call me because Im a teacher and I cant take a call in the middle of class. Sometimes it happens if my kids are sick or my wife really needs to get a hold of me. It doesnt sound like that is the case here. I get your point, but it is an issue. And the teacher is trying to cover herself by telling kids not to tell. She knows its an issue. Why the principal didnt think it was a big deal is a little perplexing

 

[Nugget]

If we have the kids wearing body cameras, that should solve the teachers using cell phones issue.

 

[Sabertooth]

Is the teacher on the phone during class? Wtf?

Yes, often enough that she felt the need to tell the class not to tell their parents.

Also, apparently at a different school (1st grade) last year she had issues with being on the phone during class. This caused the principal there to ban phone usage for all the teachers. A teacher at that school relayed this information.

But again, my issue isn't the phone use. As long is my daughter is learning, I don't have a problem with that.

Its not right though

I always tell people they cant call me because Im a teacher and I cant take a call in the middle of class. Sometimes it happens if my kids are sick or my wife really needs to get a hold of me. It doesnt sound like that is the case here. I get your point, but it is an issue. And the teacher is trying to cover herself by telling kids not to tell. She knows its an issue. Why the principal didnt think it was a big deal is a little perplexing

I know it's not right. But that seems to me more of an administrative problem than a parent-teacher problem.

 

[johnnycakes]

The kids should all use their own cell phones in class and if the teacher has a boeuf with that, what's she going to do? Send the kids to the principal's office with instructions not to mention her cell phone usage? I know if my kid were in that class, he'd probably be doing just that.

 

[Sabertooth]

Is the teacher on the phone during class? Wtf?

Yes, often enough that she felt the need to tell the class not to tell their parents.

Also, apparently at a different school (1st grade) last year she had issues with being on the phone during class. This caused the principal there to ban phone usage for all the teachers. A teacher at that school relayed this information.

But again, my issue isn't the phone use. As long is my daughter is learning, I don't have a problem with that.

Its not right though

I always tell people they cant call me because Im a teacher and I cant take a call in the middle of class. Sometimes it happens if my kids are sick or my wife really needs to get a hold of me. It doesnt sound like that is the case here. I get your point, but it is an issue. And the teacher is trying to cover herself by telling kids not to tell. She knows its an issue. Why the principal didnt think it was a big deal is a little perplexing

Absolutely. Not sure why the principal botched this so badly. Maybe he was trying to be a friend instead of a boss with her or something. That's my guess.

 

[Sabertooth]

The kids should all use their own cell phones in class and if the teacher has a boef with that, what's she going to do? Send the kids to the principal's office with instructions not to mention her cell phone usage? I know if my kid were in that class, he'd probably be doing just that.

This is an option. Lol.

 

[Tom Servo]

Now I'd be pissed. I'd call the superintendent since the principal sucks. Woman principle?

Principals can be of either sex.

 

[comfortably numb]

The kids should all use their own cell phones in class and if the teacher has a boeuf with that, what's she going to do? Send the kids to the principal's office with instructions not to mention her cell phone usage? I know if my kid were in that class, he'd probably be doing just that.

What a great idea to blow things even more out of proportion.

 

[Rick James]

if she was let go from her previous job for cell phone usage, then it's a problem. Principal is looking worse and worse here.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

I find it hard to believe any teacher would expect a class of 11 year olds to keep a secret.

Is it hard to believe anything that happens with teachers these days?

 

[Johnny Bing]

Also, you seem to have forgotten the important point here....your daughter told you anyway. Leave it alone and keep milking her for information until she has something really important to report

Totally agree the teacher is in the wrong here but the kid was smart enough to know she shouldn't keep secrets from her parents. Great parent to kid teaching moment. "What your teacher did was wrong but you did the right thing telling us, nice job" <end>

Yep. I'm sure every parent has said at some time, "we can get some ice cream, but don't tell mom." or you spilled something on the new carpet, but cleaned it up and said let's just keep that between us. I don't think any of those comments are turning her into a compulsive liar or down the wrong path. And I'm sure what the teacher did should be taken in the same context.

I guess if you want to be that parent, you can light up the torch and pitchfork and head into the principal, but to me it isn't worth it. Seems petty in my opinion.

 

[Cold Dead Hands]

Now I'd be pissed. I'd call the superintendent since the principal sucks. Woman principle?

Principals can be of either sex.

Why would anyone hire a principal that can't even vote in an election?

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Way to go Tanner.

 

[GregR]

Definitely possible that the other side to the story is the teacher made a joke about not telling parents about using the cell phone, Sabretooth Jr. took it literally, then when it got back to her, the teacher took her outside to say "You know I was only joking Sabretooth Jr, right?"

Yeah, I'm back here still.

Haven't seen any reason this should have got escalated without knowing whether it was actually an attempt to get kids to not be forthcoming with their parents. Could be the teacher did nothing wrong.

 

[Sabertooth]

Definitely possible that the other side to the story is the teacher made a joke about not telling parents about using the cell phone, Sabretooth Jr. took it literally, then when it got back to her, the teacher took her outside to say "You know I was only joking Sabretooth Jr, right?"

Yeah, I'm back here still.

Haven't seen any reason this should have got escalated without knowing whether it was actually an attempt to get kids to not be forthcoming with their parents. Could be the teacher did nothing wrong.

Could be. I'm open to that thought. But if that was the case, why take my kid out of class and into the hallway the second time? Maybe there was a good reason for that too. But my daughter did not mention that second incident at all to us until directly confronted with it. I'll be interested to hear her version of the conversation with that class. I'm also interested to hear from the principal why he mentioned me by name to the teacher thus implicating my daughter. What could he possibly gain from exposing my daughter?

 

[Gr00vus]

I'm with those who think you just should have let the whole thing slide, but if you had to say something to somebody about it, why wouldn't you have talked with the teacher first?

 

[AAABatteries]

A real Alpha would have sex with the teacher and shove the cell phone up the principals ###.

 

[Jayrod]

I personally prefer cheese with my wine, but whatever floats your boat.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

once daughter confirmed teacher was on the phone too much and told the kids not to tell the parents, I think you are almost obligated at that point to say something.....

sure your daughter may be doing great in the class but what about Little Johnny (bad example) little Joey in the seat next to her.....he may not being doing so well and could maybe make better use of the teacher's time....

it has to be hard, especially for these younger teachers, fresh out of college, etc where their cell phones and instant access are attached to their hands 24 hours a day.....to not be able to access them for an extended period of time.....it really can be an addicting thing.....

but thats no excuse, and let's not pretend that every teacher is probably "strongly encouraged" not to be on their cell phones during class....we know this is probably part of Teaching 101....don't be on your cell phone in class....pretty basic no-no stuff

teacher obviously has an issue with not being able to be away from her phone.....

cannot believe the Principal made it to where he is at if he thought revealing the name of the student to the teacher was the play here.....that's violation of Principal 101....pretty basic no-no stuff....

so yeah...it should bother you the teacher was on her phone too much......shouldn't matter how your daughter is doing in the class......the teacher in many ways is disregarding basic teacher principles and authority.....she knows she shouldn't be doing it, but does it anyway.....and then really thinks it's appropriate to make a class full of 11 year olds her enablers.....and maybe while not asking them to "lie"....she is still putting them in a very uncomfortable position......teachers don't do that to kids...

finally....the Principal is the major concern here and he should be called out to a higher authority.....if he really thought telling the teacher who the kid was was the play......his ability to lead a group in charge of educating children needs to be questioned.....

 

[comfortably numb]

speaking of phone, pull your phone out and snap a pic of teacher

new board has you all slippin

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

The principal should never have said who it was.

This

 

[GroveDiesel]

I'm shocked at how many people think it's no big deal for a teacher to be on the phone during class. That should never happen unless there is an emergency. Even then, if there was some sort of emergency and I had to let my teacher wife know, I would call the school, tell them we have an emergency and that I need to talk to my wife right away. That way they know something is up, she won't get in trouble, and they can already start trying to find a sub.

And the principal really screwed up by telling the teacher it was you that complained. At this point, you can't expect your daughter to be treated fairly. I would contact the superintendent and request a meeting with him and the principal to discuss the entire situation.

 

[Super King]

Teacher is banging principal. That's who she's texting all class.

 

[comfortably numb]

Teacher is banging principal. That's who she's texting all class.

you might be onto something here

 

[VA703]

have the kid document time on phone, exact time for a week. take to principal and demand they be fired

 

[Wrigley]

What does the teacher look like, this is important?

 

[msommer]

Now your daughter is a snitch.

Pretty much. That's why I tried to handle this between two men at first. Now we get to sit in a room with two angry women. Nice work, well played Mr. Principal. And no matter the outcome, my daughter is going to notice a difference in how this teacher treats her, I can almost guarantee it.

Certainly she is going to feel it if the teacher is fired for using her cel during class.

 

[Mr. Ected]

When the teacher is "on the cell" are they making calls, or are they texting, surfing or playing games?

 

[Cjw_55106]

I thought this was going to be a taco thread.

 

[Jayrod]

I thought this was going to be a taco thread.

I like tacos!

 

[jamny]

The principal should never have said who it was.

This

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

start hiding money

 

[meanjoegreen]

Now I'd be pissed. I'd call the superintendent since the principal sucks. Woman principle?

Sexist much? He has referred to the principal as Mr. Principle.

 

[Reegus]

Now I'd be pissed. I'd call the superintendent since the principal sucks. Woman principle?

Sexist much? He has referred to the principal as Mr. Principle.

In a honesty though it does sound like something a woman would do.

 

[simey]

Now I'd be pissed. I'd call the superintendent since the principal sucks. Woman principle?

Sexist much? He has referred to the principal as Mr. Principle.

In a honesty though it does sound like something a woman would do.

I'm a woman, and I wouldn't have done it.

 

[General Tso]

Inappropriate for a teacher to be on her phone while she's working, and highly inappropriate to tell the students not to tell their parents about it. More importantly it sounds like a good opportunity for a life lesson with you and your kid. Some of my best moments of parenting have come out of situations like this. Good luck!

 

[gianmarco]

Inappropriate for a teacher to be on her phone while she's working, and highly inappropriate to tell the students not to tell their parents about it. More importantly it sounds like a good opportunity for a life lesson with you and your kid. Some of my best moments of parenting have come out of situations like this. Good luck!

"Make sure you start a thread in the FFA BEFORE you go talk to the principal."

 

[General Tso]

LOL. I just read the entire thread... I can't believe the principal divulged your name to the teacher. And for the teacher to then call your daughter out into the hall about it? Oh man, now we are getting to the root of the problem here which is that this woman is unfit to be a teacher quite frankly. I'd have another meeting with the principal, and it wouldn't be pretty. If there is even the hint of lingering anxiety with your daughter fearing the teacher I'd demand that she be switched into another class. Remember, you and your daughter did nothing wrong here. This was horribly handled by people who should know better.

 

[Apple Jack]

hard to believe its getting harder to get people interested in teaching kids.

 

[jonessed]

Teacher shouldn't be on the phone all the time, shouldn't have told the kids to not tell their parents, and shouldn't have called out your daughter for speaking up.

The principal is an idiot for divulging your name.

What a cluster####. You need to get your kid out of that class.