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Would you have a beef with this? (1 Viewer)

Sabertooth

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My 11 year old daughter comes home from school the other day and tells us over dinner that her teacher told the kids in the class not to tell their parents that she's on her phone a lot. My daughter has said since the beginning of the school year that her teacher is on her phone a lot. I never cared much to be honest. I guess the beef I have is that she encouraged my kid to be dishonest with me and my wife.

Am I off base here? Because I have to say I'm pretty pissed.

 
Do you really want to micromanage this? So you complain to the principal about cell phone usage. What does that get you?

Then she just goes to her computer and surfs FBG site all day.

I think her comment was maybe said more in sarcasm and your daughter took it a different way. I find it hard to believe any teacher would expect a class of 11 year olds to keep a secret.

 
I would have a beef with a side of garlic smashed potatoes. Or maybe sliced andoven-roasted potatoes. Definitely a starch.

And yeah, another vote to tell the principal.

 
Do you really want to micromanage this? So you complain to the principal about cell phone usage. What does that get you?

Then she just goes to her computer and surfs FBG site all day.

I think her comment was maybe said more in sarcasm and your daughter took it a different way. I find it hard to believe any teacher would expect a class of 11 year olds to keep a secret.
I don't have a problem with the cell phone usage. I thought I made that clear. My problem is the teacher telling my kid not to tell me about it.

I agree that my daughter could have misheard it. I agree it sounds like a stupid thing to say. But the stupidity of it isn't really what bothers me. It's the dishonesty part that I have a problem with. The cell phone usage doesn't really bother me because my daughter is doing very well in her class and learning.

 
I would have a beef with a side of garlic smashed potatoes. Or maybe sliced andoven-roasted potatoes. Definitely a starch.

And yeah, another vote to tell the principal.
I met with the principal last week on the issue. Stopped by his office for a little 5 minute meeting. I specifically told him that I came to him because I didn't want any animosity to build up between the teacher (think Julia Roberts in Eat, Pray, Love complete with fiance who lives on another continent) and my daughter.

The next day my wife hears from another student's mom that the teacher took my daughter out into the hallway for a talk. My daughter didn't tell us but did confirm that the teacher took her into the hallway to discuss the cell phone usage issue. I don't think the teacher understands that my issue is not her phone usage, but her encouraging my daughter to be dishonest towards me.

So the principal told her that we met. Predictably, the teacher took my daughter aside to hammer home that she shouldn't tell me about the cell phone usage.

 
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Now I'd be pissed. I'd call the superintendent since the principal sucks. Woman principle?

 
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I would have a beef with a side of garlic smashed potatoes. Or maybe sliced andoven-roasted potatoes. Definitely a starch.

And yeah, another vote to tell the principal.
I met with the principal last week on the issue. Stopped by his office for a little 5 minute meeting. I specifically told him that I came to him because I didn't want any animosity to build up between the teacher (think Julia Roberts in Eat, Pray, Love complete with fiance who lives on another continent) and my daughter.

The next day my wife hears from another student's mom that the teacher took my daughter out into the hallway for a talk. My daughter didn't tell us but did confirm that the teacher took her into the hallway to discuss the cell phone usage issue. I don't think the teacher understands that my issue is not her phone usage, but her encouraging my daughter to be dishonest towards me.

So the principal told her that we met. Predictably, the teacher took my daughter aside to hammer home that she shouldn't tell me about the cell phone usage.
I would have been annoyed with the first part. This development about taking my daughter out in the hallway would escalate from annoyed to pretty ####### pissed off.

 
You didn't want it to become a "thing", so you ratted the teacher out to her boss (with a very small amount of information, btw)?

You gotta pick your battles in life. You say your daughter is doing well and the class is going well. I'd have left this one alone. A teacher you didn't have a problem with made a silly, harmless comment, and it has led to unnecessary stress in your life.

 
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Is there a FB page that anyone in the school has set up for parents? Do you know anyone in your girls class?

Also agree with the principal route.

 
Now I'd be pissed. I'd call the superintendent since the principal sucks. Woman principle?
I would have a beef with a side of garlic smashed potatoes. Or maybe sliced andoven-roasted potatoes. Definitely a starch.

And yeah, another vote to tell the principal.
I met with the principal last week on the issue. Stopped by his office for a little 5 minute meeting. I specifically told him that I came to him because I didn't want any animosity to build up between the teacher (think Julia Roberts in Eat, Pray, Love complete with fiance who lives on another continent) and my daughter.

The next day my wife hears from another student's mom that the teacher took my daughter out into the hallway for a talk. My daughter didn't tell us but did confirm that the teacher took her into the hallway to discuss the cell phone usage issue. I don't think the teacher understands that my issue is not her phone usage, but her encouraging my daughter to be dishonest towards me.

So the principal told her that we met. Predictably, the teacher took my daughter aside to hammer home that she shouldn't tell me about the cell phone usage.
 
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I'd be pissed that the principal told the teacher it was your kid. They had plenty of in cognito to just say 'a parent told me' without specifying. Now it's a separate issue and I'd go higher. You don't do that to a kid.

 
Also, you seem to have forgotten the important point here....your daughter told you anyway. Leave it alone and keep milking her for information until she has something really important to report

Now, she's learned that rat finks get called out into the hallway for a chat. An important lesson, but it doesn't sound like the one you were trying to teach.

 
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It's really odd to me that someone can not see this as a problem. A teacher is given authority based on her role and this woman is using that authority to make one of her students feel bad for something she told her own parents. I don't care that the "something" is cell phone use, it could be about anything.

 
Some of you guys get worked up over the strangest things.
The teacher singled out his daughter because she didn't like something that the daughter told to her parents. Do you think that's an appropriate use of her authority in a school room setting?
It was the obvious and predictable result.

Right or wrong.. How could anyone think otherwise?
I would think otherwise. I have several friends that are teachers. I would expect them to be have professionally. Maybe you think all teachers are just petty people or something, I guess I just have different expectations.

 
It's really odd to me that someone can not see this as a problem. A teacher is given authority based on her role and this woman is using that authority to make one of her students feel bad for something she told her own parents. I don't care that the "something" is cell phone use, it could be about anything.
The people that didn't have a problem with this didn't have a problem with the initial part of the teacher telling the class not to tell their parents.

I think most agree teacher is out of line to now talk to the student directly about this.

 
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It's really odd to me that someone can not see this as a problem. A teacher is given authority based on her role and this woman is using that authority to make one of her students feel bad for something she told her own parents. I don't care that the "something" is cell phone use, it could be about anything.
The people that didn't have a problem with this didn't have a problem with the initial part of the teacher telling the class not to tell their parents.

I think most agree teacher is out of line to now talk to student directly about this.
I think reasonable people can differ on the first part. I think if my daughter told me that I would just find it odd. I doubt I'd have gone to the principle.

But, having done that, when the teacher singles my kid out and berates her on some level for something she said to her own parents, I'm getting pissed.

 
It's really odd to me that someone can not see this as a problem. A teacher is given authority based on her role and this woman is using that authority to make one of her students feel bad for something she told her own parents. I don't care that the "something" is cell phone use, it could be about anything.
I agree! #### authority!

 
As a teacher, lots of wrong things going on here

Obviously the cell phone should not be used during class time. teachers have prep periods, even elementary teachers

The principal should never have said who the parent who came in was

In all honesty, I have done or said something stupid and joked, dont tell your parents, I may be fired. However, I never really meant for them to lie. Sounds like this teacher is not really vested in they students

signed

A teacher on FBGs all day

 
Some of you guys get worked up over the strangest things.
The teacher singled out his daughter because she didn't like something that the daughter told to her parents. Do you think that's an appropriate use of her authority in a school room setting?
Some of you guys get worked up over the strangest things.
The teacher singled out his daughter because she didn't like something that the daughter told to her parents. Do you think that's an appropriate use of her authority in a school room setting?
If he didn't get worked up over it to begin with, it wouldn't have come to this.

 
Now your daughter is a snitch.
Pretty much. :yes: That's why I tried to handle this between two men at first. Now we get to sit in a room with two angry women. Nice work, well played Mr. Principal. And no matter the outcome, my daughter is going to notice a difference in how this teacher treats her, I can almost guarantee it.

 
Some of you guys get worked up over the strangest things.
The teacher singled out his daughter because she didn't like something that the daughter told to her parents. Do you think that's an appropriate use of her authority in a school room setting?
It was the obvious and predictable result.Right or wrong.. How could anyone think otherwise?
I would think otherwise. I have several friends that are teachers. I would expect them to be have professionally. Maybe you think all teachers are just petty people or something, I guess I just have different expectations.
You can put anyone you want up on your pedestal.

I tend to think of people as people.

This is a poor example of weighing the pros and cons of a decision.

Pros... Can't think of anything that was ever going to be gained here? That you could say you stood up for something?

Cons... Here we are.

 
Some of you guys get worked up over the strangest things.
The teacher singled out his daughter because she didn't like something that the daughter told to her parents. Do you think that's an appropriate use of her authority in a school room setting?
Some of you guys get worked up over the strangest things.
The teacher singled out his daughter because she didn't like something that the daughter told to her parents. Do you think that's an appropriate use of her authority in a school room setting?
If he didn't get worked up over it to begin with, it wouldn't have come to this.
Sure. And if he lived in another school district it wouldn't have come to this. I can separate how they got to "this" without just excusing whatever conduct the teacher displays.

 
Now your daughter is a snitch.
Pretty much. :yes: That's why I tried to handle this between two men at first. Now we get to sit in a room with two angry women. Nice work, well played Mr. Principal. And no matter the outcome, my daughter is going to notice a difference in how this teacher treats her, I can almost guarantee it.
Mistake going to the principal imo.

I know it was wrong what the teacher said and did, but there wasn't anything that was ever going to come of it.

Oh well. Doubt it is that big of a deal. Live and learn.

 
As a teacher, lots of wrong things going on here

Obviously the cell phone should not be used during class time. teachers have prep periods, even elementary teachers

The principal should never have said who the parent who came in was

In all honesty, I have done or said something stupid and joked, dont tell your parents, I may be fired. However, I never really meant for them to lie. Sounds like this teacher is not really vested in they students

signed

A teacher on FBGs all day
Definitely possible that the other side to the story is the teacher made a joke about not telling parents about using the cell phone, Sabretooth Jr. took it literally, then when it got back to her, the teacher took her outside to say "You know I was only joking Sabretooth Jr, right?"

 
It's really odd to me that someone can not see this as a problem. A teacher is given authority based on her role and this woman is using that authority to make one of her students feel bad for something she told her own parents. I don't care that the "something" is cell phone use, it could be about anything.
This x1000

 
It's really odd to me that someone can not see this as a problem. A teacher is given authority based on her role and this woman is using that authority to make one of her students feel bad for something she told her own parents. I don't care that the "something" is cell phone use, it could be about anything.
This x1000
again....

people didn't see a problem telling the class

no one has said they don't see a problem with talking directly to your kid

 
Some of you guys get worked up over the strangest things.
The teacher singled out his daughter because she didn't like something that the daughter told to her parents. Do you think that's an appropriate use of her authority in a school room setting?
It was the obvious and predictable result.Right or wrong.. How could anyone think otherwise?
I would think otherwise. I have several friends that are teachers. I would expect them to be have professionally. Maybe you think all teachers are just petty people or something, I guess I just have different expectations.
You can put anyone you want up on your pedestal.

I tend to think of people as people.

This is a poor example of weighing the pros and cons of a decision.

Pros... Can't think of anything that was ever going to be gained here? That you could say you stood up for something?

Cons... Here we are.
I disagree. Teacher needs to be told not to encourage my kid to lie to me. It's really that simple. I'm not putting up with that.

 
It's really odd to me that someone can not see this as a problem. A teacher is given authority based on her role and this woman is using that authority to make one of her students feel bad for something she told her own parents. I don't care that the "something" is cell phone use, it could be about anything.
This x1000
I don't think anybody has argued against this.

The question is what are you gonna do about it that doesn't expose your daughter? This is not a battle I would have picked.

 
Some of you guys get worked up over the strangest things.
The teacher singled out his daughter because she didn't like something that the daughter told to her parents. Do you think that's an appropriate use of her authority in a school room setting?
It was the obvious and predictable result.Right or wrong.. How could anyone think otherwise?
I would think otherwise. I have several friends that are teachers. I would expect them to be have professionally. Maybe you think all teachers are just petty people or something, I guess I just have different expectations.
You can put anyone you want up on your pedestal.

I tend to think of people as people.

This is a poor example of weighing the pros and cons of a decision.

Pros... Can't think of anything that was ever going to be gained here? That you could say you stood up for something?

Cons... Here we are.
I disagree. Teacher needs to be told not to encourage my kid to lie to me. It's really that simple. I'm not putting up with that.
Did she say to lie if you asked her? Or just not to bring it up. Big difference.

 
Do you really want to micromanage this? So you complain to the principal about cell phone usage. What does that get you?

Then she just goes to her computer and surfs FBG site all day.

I think her comment was maybe said more in sarcasm and your daughter took it a different way. I find it hard to believe any teacher would expect a class of 11 year olds to keep a secret.
I didn't have a problem with the usage. I had a problem with her telling my daughter's entire class not to tell their parents that she's on her phone a lot. I don't care about the phone usage.

 
It's really odd to me that someone can not see this as a problem. A teacher is given authority based on her role and this woman is using that authority to make one of her students feel bad for something she told her own parents. I don't care that the "something" is cell phone use, it could be about anything.
This x1000
I don't think anybody has argued against this.

The question is what are you gonna do about it that doesn't expose your daughter? This is not a battle I would have picked.
It's true, the downside is exposing my daughter to some punishment perhaps. But worst case, the teacher is cold to her for 2 more months. Then the teacher is in the rearview and my daughter knows I have her back.

 
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I have a problem with all of it, especially the cell phone usage. Yeah teachers are humans too and sometimes have personal issues they need to deal with asap but if she's using the phone in class to such a degree that she has to tell students not to tell their parents, then that is a problem.

Principal is a moron who doesn't understand indiscretion. A simple "hey a parent spoke to me the other day..." would have solved all of this.

 

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