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WR A.J. Brown, PHI (5 Viewers)

So the OC is the problem….


Jordan Mailata on A.J. Brown: "Whatever he says is on him, and as a teammate, I can understand his frustrations. But for me, I'm going to stay in my lane. As an offensive lineman, if we're not getting the ball to him, how can I fix that? Go to K.P. and tell him to get the ball to A.J.? That doesn't help anything. That doesn't come up with a solution. So me saying, 'I agree with A.J., go get him the ball!' I'd be the 15th person in this building telling him the same thing. It's empty."

How did you draw that conclusion?
🤷‍♂️ One of the most respected players on the team would be one of a large number of other players telling KP to get they agree with AJB and get him the ball more. Seems pretty straightforward many others think KP is the reason he’s not getting the ball.

And I’m not the only one drawing said conclusion….


*look who retweeted this take too.
I think that's a reach and I put more stock in reports like the one Russini wrote this morning saying the frustration by AJB is because Hurts is playing to conservatively.


No matter how you slice it appears you've taken the position of being an apologist for AJB's behavior by placing the blame on someone else. I'm taking the position of he's in the same offense as other stars and he's the only one acting out in a public way and coming off as selfish.
AJB needs come to grips that Hurts and the OC hates him……….jk…..Really though, keep your mouth shut if the team is winning is my motto.
 
So the OC is the problem….


Jordan Mailata on A.J. Brown: "Whatever he says is on him, and as a teammate, I can understand his frustrations. But for me, I'm going to stay in my lane. As an offensive lineman, if we're not getting the ball to him, how can I fix that? Go to K.P. and tell him to get the ball to A.J.? That doesn't help anything. That doesn't come up with a solution. So me saying, 'I agree with A.J., go get him the ball!' I'd be the 15th person in this building telling him the same thing. It's empty."

How did you draw that conclusion?
🤷‍♂️ One of the most respected players on the team would be one of a large number of other players telling KP to get they agree with AJB and get him the ball more. Seems pretty straightforward many others think KP is the reason he’s not getting the ball.

And I’m not the only one drawing said conclusion….


*look who retweeted this take too.
I think that's a reach and I put more stock in reports like the one Russini wrote this morning saying the frustration by AJB is because Hurts is playing to conservatively.


No matter how you slice it appears you've taken the position of being an apologist for AJB's behavior by placing the blame on someone else. I'm taking the position of he's in the same offense as other stars and he's the only one acting out in a public way and coming off as selfish.
Ehhh, I think I come down somewhere towards the middle, maybe 60% on AJB’s side. I don’t think it’s as simple as if you’re winning shut up. Especially when you look at it from the perspective of an incredibly important cog in the wheel who sees they are playing far from their best. I think it’s hard to watch the Eagles and think that they are a prohibitive Super Bowl favorite and clicking on all cylinders, regardless of record. I also understand his frustration when he’s not being given the opportunity to contribute towards making the team better. There’s clearly something off there.

But I’m also not a fan of airing your dirty laundry public. I’m a 50 year-old dude. I’m not of the generation to want to whine online for the public to see. I just don’t understand that concept and it’s so far from how I operate.

Bottom line. I don’t think the whining is the genesis of the problem. His frustrations are warranted, but he certainly could handle it better.
 
It's really been an odd year for him. I don't think it's as bad as AJ and fantasy owners feel like it is. It's just been one thing or another.

The Eagles have played 9 games.

Brown was out for 1 game.

Of the other 8 games, he was only targeted 1-3 times in 2 of the games.

In all the other 6 games, he's been heavily targeted.
Of those, in 1 game he could hardly catch anything (from what I heard they were not good passes).

Of the other 5 games, 2 of those games he had low yard per reception and no touchdowns (and you're not getting anywhere when those two things are true).

In the other 3 games, he was fine. 23, 14, and 28 PPR points.

So all you can do is ask yourself if those various factors holding him back are going to continue or if they've just been weird, unrelated anomalies making it look like a terrible season.
A 57% catchable ball rate on the season is absolute garbage and dramatically skews the target data
[Hurts' talking in his head after the ball is snapped]

"Man, I hate AJ so much ... let's piss him off ... here we go, this one's gonna go three yards over his head ... lmao, catch this, loser!" *fling!* "Hahaha! YES! Look, he's so annoyed, this is awesome."

Joking aside, my point being .... I think it's random error. They haven't had trouble connecting in the past,
 
It's really been an odd year for him. I don't think it's as bad as AJ and fantasy owners feel like it is. It's just been one thing or another.

The Eagles have played 9 games.

Brown was out for 1 game.

Of the other 8 games, he was only targeted 1-3 times in 2 of the games.

In all the other 6 games, he's been heavily targeted.
Of those, in 1 game he could hardly catch anything (from what I heard they were not good passes).

Of the other 5 games, 2 of those games he had low yard per reception and no touchdowns (and you're not getting anywhere when those two things are true).

In the other 3 games, he was fine. 23, 14, and 28 PPR points.

So all you can do is ask yourself if those various factors holding him back are going to continue or if they've just been weird, unrelated anomalies making it look like a terrible season.
A 57% catchable ball rate on the season is absolute garbage and dramatically skews the target data
[Hurts' talking in his head after the ball is snapped]

"Man, I hate AJ so much ... let's piss him off ... here we go, this one's gonna go three yards over his head ... lmao, catch this, loser!" *fling!* "Hahaha! YES! Look, he's so annoyed, this is awesome."

Joking aside, my point being .... I think it's random error. They haven't had trouble connecting in the past,
I completely agree. I don’t think he’s intentionally throwing him bad balls in any way shape or form. But the stat still remains true and it’s one of the reasons why AJB hasn’t preformed up to expectations.
 
It's really been an odd year for him. I don't think it's as bad as AJ and fantasy owners feel like it is. It's just been one thing or another.

The Eagles have played 9 games.

Brown was out for 1 game.

Of the other 8 games, he was only targeted 1-3 times in 2 of the games.

In all the other 6 games, he's been heavily targeted.
Of those, in 1 game he could hardly catch anything (from what I heard they were not good passes).

Of the other 5 games, 2 of those games he had low yard per reception and no touchdowns (and you're not getting anywhere when those two things are true).

In the other 3 games, he was fine. 23, 14, and 28 PPR points.

So all you can do is ask yourself if those various factors holding him back are going to continue or if they've just been weird, unrelated anomalies making it look like a terrible season.
A 57% catchable ball rate on the season is absolute garbage and dramatically skews the target data
[Hurts' talking in his head after the ball is snapped]

"Man, I hate AJ so much ... let's piss him off ... here we go, this one's gonna go three yards over his head ... lmao, catch this, loser!" *fling!* "Hahaha! YES! Look, he's so annoyed, this is awesome."

Joking aside, my point being .... I think it's random error. They haven't had trouble connecting in the past,
I completely agree. I don’t think he’s intentionally throwing him bad balls in any way shape or form. But the stat still remains true and it’s one of the reasons why AJB hasn’t preformed up to expectations.
I think Hurts and Devonta Smith have better chemistry.
 
It's really been an odd year for him. I don't think it's as bad as AJ and fantasy owners feel like it is. It's just been one thing or another.

The Eagles have played 9 games.

Brown was out for 1 game.

Of the other 8 games, he was only targeted 1-3 times in 2 of the games.

In all the other 6 games, he's been heavily targeted.
Of those, in 1 game he could hardly catch anything (from what I heard they were not good passes).

Of the other 5 games, 2 of those games he had low yard per reception and no touchdowns (and you're not getting anywhere when those two things are true).

In the other 3 games, he was fine. 23, 14, and 28 PPR points.

So all you can do is ask yourself if those various factors holding him back are going to continue or if they've just been weird, unrelated anomalies making it look like a terrible season.
A 57% catchable ball rate on the season is absolute garbage and dramatically skews the target data
[Hurts' talking in his head after the ball is snapped]

"Man, I hate AJ so much ... let's piss him off ... here we go, this one's gonna go three yards over his head ... lmao, catch this, loser!" *fling!* "Hahaha! YES! Look, he's so annoyed, this is awesome."

Joking aside, my point being .... I think it's random error. They haven't had trouble connecting in the past,
I completely agree. I don’t think he’s intentionally throwing him bad balls in any way shape or form. But the stat still remains true and it’s one of the reasons why AJB hasn’t preformed up to expectations.
I think Hurts and Devonta Smith have better chemistry.
Certainly seems that way this year. It also doesn’t hurt that Devonta is a stud too.
 
It's really been an odd year for him. I don't think it's as bad as AJ and fantasy owners feel like it is. It's just been one thing or another.

The Eagles have played 9 games.

Brown was out for 1 game.

Of the other 8 games, he was only targeted 1-3 times in 2 of the games.

In all the other 6 games, he's been heavily targeted.
Of those, in 1 game he could hardly catch anything (from what I heard they were not good passes).

Of the other 5 games, 2 of those games he had low yard per reception and no touchdowns (and you're not getting anywhere when those two things are true).

In the other 3 games, he was fine. 23, 14, and 28 PPR points.

So all you can do is ask yourself if those various factors holding him back are going to continue or if they've just been weird, unrelated anomalies making it look like a terrible season.
A 57% catchable ball rate on the season is absolute garbage and dramatically skews the target data
[Hurts' talking in his head after the ball is snapped]

"Man, I hate AJ so much ... let's piss him off ... here we go, this one's gonna go three yards over his head ... lmao, catch this, loser!" *fling!* "Hahaha! YES! Look, he's so annoyed, this is awesome."

Joking aside, my point being .... I think it's random error. They haven't had trouble connecting in the past,
I completely agree. I don’t think he’s intentionally throwing him bad balls in any way shape or form. But the stat still remains true and it’s one of the reasons why AJB hasn’t preformed up to expectations.
And I didn't mean that toward you. Just a joke because some people claim it's a rift between them causing the problem. Which would make sense if he were being targeted 1-3 times per game regularly. But that's been a great minority of the games.
 
So the OC is the problem….


Jordan Mailata on A.J. Brown: "Whatever he says is on him, and as a teammate, I can understand his frustrations. But for me, I'm going to stay in my lane. As an offensive lineman, if we're not getting the ball to him, how can I fix that? Go to K.P. and tell him to get the ball to A.J.? That doesn't help anything. That doesn't come up with a solution. So me saying, 'I agree with A.J., go get him the ball!' I'd be the 15th person in this building telling him the same thing. It's empty."

How did you draw that conclusion?
🤷‍♂️ One of the most respected players on the team would be one of a large number of other players telling KP to get they agree with AJB and get him the ball more. Seems pretty straightforward many others think KP is the reason he’s not getting the ball.

And I’m not the only one drawing said conclusion….


*look who retweeted this take too.
I think that's a reach and I put more stock in reports like the one Russini wrote this morning saying the frustration by AJB is because Hurts is playing to conservatively.


No matter how you slice it appears you've taken the position of being an apologist for AJB's behavior by placing the blame on someone else. I'm taking the position of he's in the same offense as other stars and he's the only one acting out in a public way and coming off as selfish.
Ehhh, I think I come down somewhere towards the middle, maybe 60% on AJB’s side. I don’t think it’s as simple as if you’re winning shut up. Especially when you look at it from the perspective of an incredibly important cog in the wheel who sees they are playing far from their best. I think it’s hard to watch the Eagles and think that they are a prohibitive Super Bowl favorite and clicking on all cylinders, regardless of record. I also understand his frustration when he’s not being given the opportunity to contribute towards making the team better. There’s clearly something off there.

But I’m also not a fan of airing your dirty laundry public. I’m a 50 year-old dude. I’m not of the generation to want to whine online for the public to see. I just don’t understand that concept and it’s so far from how I operate.

Bottom line. I don’t think the whining is the genesis of the problem. His frustrations are warranted, but he certainly could handle it better.
Just my opinion on all this but AJB's body language seemed off in week one. I chalked that up at the time to recovering from his hamstring but as we've gone deeper in this don't think that's the case.

Again this is all just my opinion but go back to last year when the offense was humming but what does he do in a playoff game he's not heavily involved in? He's pulling out a book on the sideline. That may seem like nothing to you and others but to me that was him already starting his passive/aggressive behavior which seems to come out when he's not involved, regardless of if they are winning.

So to me my conclusion is he was already starting to act like this last year, he entered the season in this mood/funk, and since both of those things occurred before the offense was not hitting on all cylinders like last year the issue is internal to AJB.


I'd just add that part of my big issue with him is that I've long been a huge fan of Devonta Smith and the juxtaposition of how they have both handled their roles. I've long felt Devonta Smith was an NFL #1WR but he's allowed himself to spend his career to this point as the #2 option in a run heavy offense as well as being paid as the #2WR on his own team. He's apparently had frustrations as well over the years of not getting the ball enough but chose to handle things differently. But I think he's always been happy on the whole in this role because he's winning. Now to me when Devonta is playing at a higher level and the team is winning I just see AJB as not being able to stand it, not being able to accept not being able to be the clear cut main guy, and again to me it has nothing to do with the offense not performing like last season, which is unrealistic IMO with this OL play.
 
It's really been an odd year for him. I don't think it's as bad as AJ and fantasy owners feel like it is. It's just been one thing or another.

The Eagles have played 9 games.

Brown was out for 1 game.

Of the other 8 games, he was only targeted 1-3 times in 2 of the games.

In all the other 6 games, he's been heavily targeted.
Of those, in 1 game he could hardly catch anything (from what I heard they were not good passes).

Of the other 5 games, 2 of those games he had low yard per reception and no touchdowns (and you're not getting anywhere when those two things are true).

In the other 3 games, he was fine. 23, 14, and 28 PPR points.

So all you can do is ask yourself if those various factors holding him back are going to continue or if they've just been weird, unrelated anomalies making it look like a terrible season.
A 57% catchable ball rate on the season is absolute garbage and dramatically skews the target data

This is a bit of a misleading stat that unscrupulous sports writers use without context to drive a narrative/agenda that they've already decided on.

Catchable ball rate
AJ Brown: 57%
Davante Adams: 58%
Devonta Smith: 79%
Puka Nacua: 84%

So why are the catchable ball rates between AJB/DeVonta so different when they have the same QB throwing to them? Why is it so different between Puka/Adams when they have the same QB throwing to them?

Separation
AJ Brown: 1.8
Davante Adams: 2.1
Puka Nacua: 2.9
Devonta Smith: 3.1


Catchable ball rate tends to roughly scale with separation. It's not perfect, but in general the guys at the top in separation have very high catchable ball rates, while guys at the bottom in separation have very low catchable rates. Tre Tucker hasn't had good QB play this year, but his catchable ball rate is 80%, because he's at the top of the league in separation. Mike Evans has a catchable ball rate of 54% while Tez Johnson is 75%, again with the same QB as each other.

Logically it makes sense too. If a guy is wide open you know you just need to generally put it on them, and not miss badly. If a guy is more covered you need to thread it into the perfect spot away from the defender where only your guy can catch it, which means you have a much smaller window and are much more likely to miss entirely. Also, I believe if a defender swats a ball down it is considered not catchable, which obviously happens a lot more often when a WR has less separation.

Part of this is not AJB's fault but rather the nature of the positions they play. Shifty small WRs that make their living on their quickness generally have higher separation, so higher catchable target rates. Traditional X receivers typically have lower separation, and lower catchable target rates.

Though on that same front, AJB's separation numbers are down this year even for him as a traditional X receiver. The lowest of his career. Whether it's age or injuries catching up to him or attitude, he looks slower than ever out there. If his targets are decreasing, it's probably his fault too. Not only underperformance and the bad look of complaining on a 7-2 team, but also publicly alienating the franchise QB that is much more important to the team than him is not smart. Whether consciously or subconsciously of course that is going to make that QB want to look at the guy across the field more often, especially when the guy across the field is doing a lot more with his targets.

And for all of the talk about the offense underperforming when AJB doesn't get enough looks based only on the most recent 1 game...

Eagles PPG when AJB has 5+ catches: 21.75
Eagles PPG when AJB has fewer than 5 catches: 26.2

Eagles PPG when AJB has the most WR targets: 24
Eagles PPG when DeVonta has the most WR targets: 29
 
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Feels like the inevitable changing of the guard has happened. Devonta is the WR 1 in Philly now.
This has been coming for awhile now. I’ve been saying it since last offseason. AJ has been dealing with one off injuries to his knees and hamstrings since last season. Had his knee drained ahead of the Super Bowl. Was in street clothes for most of training camp due to lingering hammy strains.

Go back and watch his first game with the birds in ‘22 against, ironically, the Lions. Then watch him this Sunday night and tell me he’s the same player. He’s not. Meanwhile Davonta is a technician in his route running, he high points better than just about anyone in the league and it’s pretty clear to me that Jalen trusts him more.

The narrative that Jalen is too conservative doesn’t paint the picture correctly. He IS conservative, which is why the eagles are so good-they almost always win the turnover battle-and that’s due to mainly Jalen not throwing stupid passes. BUT, he is clearly not afraid to throw it deep and into coverage when he feels his wr is going to go up and make a play. It’s just also clear that he feels Slim Reaper is going to do it and AJ isn’t.
Hurts favors Devonta Smith over Brown and it's not close. Smith is a better WR than Brown, so why shouldn't he?
You are so right!
 

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