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WR Andrei Iosivas, CIN (1 Viewer)

don't think he can do it. Like NWI, he's a nice athlete but when ya watch him, he's a clear step down from the elite athletes that the other WRs are.
Andrei Iosivas is a WR prospect in the 2023 draft class. He scored a 9.96 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 14 out of 3048 WR from 1987 to 2023. http://ras.football
Yeah from Hawaii and Princeton
Doesn't mean he's fluid and ....I could just spin this and say then why isn't he better than Chase?
RAS has it's limitations

Are people stronger/faster on an island? Why does it matter where he's from. Of course RAS has limitations but the way you crapped on him as an athlete doesn't really align with his profile, as I understand it.

I think it's silly to write him off so flippantly. He made some big/important/tough plays last year in limited time. It's possible he breaks out with more looks.
 
don't think he can do it. Like NWI, he's a nice athlete but when ya watch him, he's a clear step down from the elite athletes that the other WRs are.
Andrei Iosivas is a WR prospect in the 2023 draft class. He scored a 9.96 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 14 out of 3048 WR from 1987 to 2023. http://ras.football
Yeah from Hawaii and Princeton
Doesn't mean he's fluid and ....I could just spin this and say then why isn't he better than Chase?
RAS has it's limitations

Are people stronger/faster on an island? Why does it matter where he's from. Of course RAS has limitations but the way you crapped on him as an athlete doesn't really align with his profile, as I understand it.

I think it's silly to write him off so flippantly. He made some big/important/tough plays last year in limited time. It's possible he breaks out with more looks.
Sorry I struck a nerve with you here.
 
In the 2 leagues I have Higgins
1. Dynasty - I have Iosivas. But I also have Gabe, Chase Brown, Mike Williams, and Jeudy. I’d probably be inclined to start all 4 ahead of Iosivas.

2. Home league: I’ve got Javonte, Polk, Warren & and BT Jr. I’d probably start all 4 before Iosivas.

I just don’t expect that game to be a shootout, for one. For another I just don’t know or trust Iosivas to beat DB1 coverage if Chase is out. Maybe I’d consider him if Chase plays. Still prefer the other options.

CIN offense has a funk to it right now.
 
Debating Shakir vs Iosivas to replace Higgins
I’m #TeamShakir on this one and it’s not close.
If both Higgins and Chase are out I could see this guy having a floor of 12 PPR points.
I could too.

I could also see a scenario where he gets covered by their top DB & is essentially erased from the game while the Bengals get beat like a harp seal on the ice.

Sounds like Ja’Marr Chase will play, but be “limited” whatever that means in coachspeak. Without Higgins I’d bet it means close to nothing.

Iosivas has a very wide range of potential outcomes, and seems very risky to me.
 
I'm still on the fence. Other, perhaps more logical, option is Tank Dell. I think I'm holding out hope for Iosivas mainly 'cuz I missed out on starting Xavier Worthy-whom I would have started if I knew Higgins was going to be out.
 
Anything to see here?

Potentially? I had Yoshi in week 1 but couldn't hold him through week 2 and of course that's when he hits. The Tee Higgins situation is murky at best. They really like Iosivas but he may be a desperation-flex at best rather than a regular FF starter.
 
Anything to see here?

Potentially? I had Yoshi in week 1 but couldn't hold him through week 2 and of course that's when he hits. The Tee Higgins situation is murky at best. They really like Iosivas but he may be a desperation-flex at best rather than a regular FF starter.
I have him in a league where it looks like I am losing Kupp for a bit. My other option is Michael Pittman which isn't making me super happy.
 
A guy in my dynasty expressed interest in acquiring Iosivas, who I like but I'm willing to deal. That team is not great so I asked for a 2nd rounder in 2025, thinking it will be a top 15 pick in our twelve team league. Can't tell if that is a fair trade offer or not. We'll see what he says. Anyone with recent trade / value info on Iosivas?
 
6,6 YPR and 2 catches for 2 TD’s is impressive? What world am I living in?

50% catch rate too. IDK man- just feels like JAG or Boyd minus

The guy has a running back receiving average right now
 
6,6 YPR and 2 catches for 2 TD’s is impressive? What world am I living in?

50% catch rate too. IDK man- just feels like JAG or Boyd minus

The guy has a running back receiving average right now

The first TD was a beautiful toe tapper on the sideline. Last year his catches were big time/impressive. It's not the volume that's impressive it's what he did on the actual plays.
 
6,6 YPR and 2 catches for 2 TD’s is impressive? What world am I living in?

50% catch rate too. IDK man- just feels like JAG or Boyd minus

The guy has a running back receiving average right now
I cut him in 3 leagues this past week and despite scoring two TD's I have zero remorse.
 
Anything to see here?

Potentially? I had Yoshi in week 1 but couldn't hold him through week 2 and of course that's when he hits. The Tee Higgins situation is murky at best. They really like Iosivas but he may be a desperation-flex at best rather than a regular FF starter.
I have him in a league where it looks like I am losing Kupp for a bit. My other option is Michael Pittman which isn't making me super happy.

Suck it up!!! Oh, or trade one of you many others assests.
 
Anything to see here?

Real answer, he's the slot guy when Higgins comes back so a 3/40/0.5 stat line is reasonable to expect. Where I am encouraged, he played on the outside without Higgins. It was a real question if he was capable. Long term thats very promising.
 
Anything to see here?

Potentially? I had Yoshi in week 1 but couldn't hold him through week 2 and of course that's when he hits. The Tee Higgins situation is murky at best. They really like Iosivas but he may be a desperation-flex at best rather than a regular FF starter.
I have him in a league where it looks like I am losing Kupp for a bit. My other option is Michael Pittman which isn't making me super happy.

Suck it up!!! Oh, or trade one of you many others assests.
Like someone said earlier, where did the laughing emoji go?
 
Anything to see here?

Potentially? I had Yoshi in week 1 but couldn't hold him through week 2 and of course that's when he hits. The Tee Higgins situation is murky at best. They really like Iosivas but he may be a desperation-flex at best rather than a regular FF starter.
I have him in a league where it looks like I am losing Kupp for a bit. My other option is Michael Pittman which isn't making me super happy.

Suck it up!!! Oh, or trade one of you many others assests.
Like someone said earlier, where did the laughing emoji go?

thinking face reaction
 
6,6 YPR and 2 catches for 2 TD’s is impressive? What world am I living in

50% catch rate too. IDK man- just feels like JAG or Boyd minus

The guy has a running back receiving average right now
Way too small of a sample size to evaluate yards per reception. Iosivas has only five catches, and two of those are TD passes of 3 and 4 yards, where it's literally impossible for him to have YAC.
 
Anything to see here?

Real answer, he's the slot guy when Higgins comes back so a 3/40/0.5 stat line is reasonable to expect. Where I am encouraged, he played on the outside without Higgins. It was a real question if he was capable. Long term thats very promising.
We'll see what happens when Tee returns but he's playing the same percentage of slot snaps right now as Chase.

I personally don't think there is anything to see here, not for redraft.. His snap counts and route running participation has been extremely high and it's going to take a drastic nosedive.
 
Checking in with a nice performance. 5/7, 52 yards and a touchdown. 16.20 PPR points. A late touchdown down two scores, but the game wasn't over. Needed the onside kick to seal it.

Stepped right into Tyler Boyd's vacated spot and made some noise with some nice catches out of the slot. I'm the guy who started the thread, so I'm partial to him, but he's looked a lot better catching the football than I thought he would. He made a highlight-reel catch in Week One and a few last night. Impressive stuff for somebody who was supposed to be a track star with all of the implications of track-first being somewhat negated. Guy can flat-out catch. Waldman says:

"4. Andrei Iosivas Has Sustainable Fantasy Value​

It's the route running that's supporting the case for Iosivas as a future long-term NFL starter."

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Checking in with a nice performance. 5/7, 52 yards and a touchdown. 16.20 PPR points. A late touchdown down two scores, but the game wasn't over. Needed the onside kick to seal it.

Stepped right into Tyler Boyd's vacated spot and made some noise with some nice catches out of the slot. I'm the guy who started the thread, so I'm partial to him, but he's looked a lot better catching the football than I thought he would. He made a highlight-reel catch in Week One and a few last night. Impressive stuff for somebody who was supposed to be a track star with all of the implications of track-first being somewhat negated. Guy can flat-out catch. Waldman says:

"4. Andrei Iosivas Has Sustainable Fantasy Value​

It's the route running that's supporting the case for Iosivas as a future long-term NFL starter."

(From subscriber material. Please subscribe. Tons of good information gets bandied about here on the subscription side of things. Do FBG, Joe, and yourself a favor and pick one up.)
Thanks for this- glad to see him finally have a more “efficient” game. He will certainly have favorable coverage all year long if Chase and Tee are healthy. Looks like a PPR flex play which is useful.
 
Thanks for this- glad to see him finally have a more “efficient” game. He will certainly have favorable coverage all year long if Chase and Tee are healthy. Looks like a PPR flex play which is useful.

No sweat. I'm actually less sanguine than Waldman and others about his chances, but I hope he proves my second wave of skepticism wrong. I started this thread hoping he'd make a team and stick, never mind being WR3 on the Bengals and their top slot guy in between Chase and Higgins.

That was a little beyond what I thought, but he's earned it and gotten much better. I don't know what that means for his fantasy future. He's WR32 on the PPR year, which is a touchdown-dependent figure and doesn't take into consideration his weaker YPRR for the first two games.

He took 48 snaps and ran 33 routes last night. He had 52 yards, so that's a 1.58 YPRR. I'm not sure what the average is, but that's the number I calculated. Routes run per PFF.
 
Thanks for this- glad to see him finally have a more “efficient” game. He will certainly have favorable coverage all year long if Chase and Tee are healthy. Looks like a PPR flex play which is useful.

No sweat. I'm actually less sanguine than Waldman and others about his chances, but I hope he proves my second wave of skepticism wrong. I started this thread hoping he'd make a team and stick, never mind being WR3 on the Bengals and their top slot guy in between Chase and Higgins.

That was a little beyond what I thought, but he's earned it and gotten much better. I don't know what that means for his fantasy future. He's WR32 on the PPR year, which is a touchdown-dependent figure and doesn't take into consideration his weaker YPRR for the first two games.

He took 48 snaps and ran 33 routes last night. He had 52 yards, so that's a 1.58 YPRR. I'm not sure what the average is, but that's the number I calculated. Routes run per PFF.
The more I hear about this kids work ethic and drive the more I am interested in dynasty. Right now he is being proped up by 3 TDs as he only has 85 yards total. But watching the game tells a different story.

His route running is very very good and the timing he has with Burrow is excellent. I can see why Burrow likes to go to him for must-type completions. I'm not sure he will be fantasy relevant each week but long term (next year) if Higgins is gone he could easily step into Higgins role and perform well.

What would people be willing to pay for him in dynasty. I don't expect him to be a WR1 but long term he could be a consistent flex type/bye week player once Higgins is gone. Deeper leagues I am interested for sure.
 
I’d seriously caution against thinking that Iosivas can step into Tee Higgins’s role and production. Higgins’s play last year where he manages to stay inbounds on a deep pass along the sideline while twisting and slamming the ball beyond the pylon in the end zone was out of this world and takes an innate field awareness most don’t possess—even at the NFL level. Thinking Iosivas steps right in is a risk and a tall order for Iosivas.

I wouldn’t bet against him but that’s a great big bet on him. Not sure I’m ready for that level.

As far as his asking price, right now it’s equal to Demario Douglas on KTC. It will increase in due time.
 
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Thanks for this- glad to see him finally have a more “efficient” game. He will certainly have favorable coverage all year long if Chase and Tee are healthy. Looks like a PPR flex play which is useful.

No sweat. I'm actually less sanguine than Waldman and others about his chances, but I hope he proves my second wave of skepticism wrong. I started this thread hoping he'd make a team and stick, never mind being WR3 on the Bengals and their top slot guy in between Chase and Higgins.

That was a little beyond what I thought, but he's earned it and gotten much better. I don't know what that means for his fantasy future. He's WR32 on the PPR year, which is a touchdown-dependent figure and doesn't take into consideration his weaker YPRR for the first two games.

He took 48 snaps and ran 33 routes last night. He had 52 yards, so that's a 1.58 YPRR. I'm not sure what the average is, but that's the number I calculated. Routes run per PFF.
The more I hear about this kids work ethic and drive the more I am interested in dynasty. Right now he is being proped up by 3 TDs as he only has 85 yards total. But watching the game tells a different story.

His route running is very very good and the timing he has with Burrow is excellent. I can see why Burrow likes to go to him for must-type completions. I'm not sure he will be fantasy relevant each week but long term (next year) if Higgins is gone he could easily step into Higgins role and perform well.

What would people be willing to pay for him in dynasty. I don't expect him to be a WR1 but long term he could be a consistent flex type/bye week player once Higgins is gone. Deeper leagues I am interested for sure.
I own him in dynasty. I would accept an offer of a 2nd rounder and would reject an offer of a 3rd rounder. So somewhere in between.
 
Thanks for this- glad to see him finally have a more “efficient” game. He will certainly have favorable coverage all year long if Chase and Tee are healthy. Looks like a PPR flex play which is useful.

No sweat. I'm actually less sanguine than Waldman and others about his chances, but I hope he proves my second wave of skepticism wrong. I started this thread hoping he'd make a team and stick, never mind being WR3 on the Bengals and their top slot guy in between Chase and Higgins.

That was a little beyond what I thought, but he's earned it and gotten much better. I don't know what that means for his fantasy future. He's WR32 on the PPR year, which is a touchdown-dependent figure and doesn't take into consideration his weaker YPRR for the first two games.

He took 48 snaps and ran 33 routes last night. He had 52 yards, so that's a 1.58 YPRR. I'm not sure what the average is, but that's the number I calculated. Routes run per PFF.
The more I hear about this kids work ethic and drive the more I am interested in dynasty. Right now he is being proped up by 3 TDs as he only has 85 yards total. But watching the game tells a different story.

His route running is very very good and the timing he has with Burrow is excellent. I can see why Burrow likes to go to him for must-type completions. I'm not sure he will be fantasy relevant each week but long term (next year) if Higgins is gone he could easily step into Higgins role and perform well.

What would people be willing to pay for him in dynasty. I don't expect him to be a WR1 but long term he could be a consistent flex type/bye week player once Higgins is gone. Deeper leagues I am interested for sure.
I own him in dynasty. I would accept an offer of a 2nd rounder and would reject an offer of a 3rd rounder. So somewhere in between.
I like Iosivas but just traded him away for a second rounder in 2025 in dynasty. The other team is not great so I am expecting an early pick in round 2. I, too, would not have traded him for a third.
 
I’d seriously caution against thinking that Iosivas can step into Tee Higgins’s role and production. Higgins’s play last year where he manages to stay inbounds on a deep pass along the sideline while twisting and slamming the ball beyond the pylon in the end zone was out of this world and takes an innate field awareness most don’t possess—even at the NFL level. Thinking Iosivas steps right in is a risk and a tall order for Iosivas.

I wouldn’t bet against him but that’s a great big bet on him. Not sure I’m ready for that level.

As far as his asking price, right now it’s equal to Demario Douglas on KTC. It will increase in due time.
I don't disagree but will add this: Did you see his tight catch on the sidelines where he toe tapped to stay in bounds? Was pretty sweet. He can make these tough catches and he has good hands.

Side note about "stepping into Higgin's role" - as soon as Iosivas steps on the field and Higgins doesn't he's already exceeded Higgin's production. Maybe it is an exaggeration but not really. I own Higgins and think he is a great talent but he's been nothing but frustrating at times and why I think the bengals are done with him after this year. Burton and Iosivas will be the guys stepping in next year. Iosivas probably on the outside and Burton (if he can figure things out with the playbook) sometimes in teh slot.
 
Thanks for this- glad to see him finally have a more “efficient” game. He will certainly have favorable coverage all year long if Chase and Tee are healthy. Looks like a PPR flex play which is useful.

No sweat. I'm actually less sanguine than Waldman and others about his chances, but I hope he proves my second wave of skepticism wrong. I started this thread hoping he'd make a team and stick, never mind being WR3 on the Bengals and their top slot guy in between Chase and Higgins.

That was a little beyond what I thought, but he's earned it and gotten much better. I don't know what that means for his fantasy future. He's WR32 on the PPR year, which is a touchdown-dependent figure and doesn't take into consideration his weaker YPRR for the first two games.

He took 48 snaps and ran 33 routes last night. He had 52 yards, so that's a 1.58 YPRR. I'm not sure what the average is, but that's the number I calculated. Routes run per PFF.
The more I hear about this kids work ethic and drive the more I am interested in dynasty. Right now he is being proped up by 3 TDs as he only has 85 yards total. But watching the game tells a different story.

His route running is very very good and the timing he has with Burrow is excellent. I can see why Burrow likes to go to him for must-type completions. I'm not sure he will be fantasy relevant each week but long term (next year) if Higgins is gone he could easily step into Higgins role and perform well.

What would people be willing to pay for him in dynasty. I don't expect him to be a WR1 but long term he could be a consistent flex type/bye week player once Higgins is gone. Deeper leagues I am interested for sure.
I own him in dynasty. I would accept an offer of a 2nd rounder and would reject an offer of a 3rd rounder. So somewhere in between.
I like Iosivas but just traded him away for a second rounder in 2025 in dynasty. The other team is not great so I am expecting an early pick in round 2. I, too, would not have traded him for a third.
This sounds about right. If I had Iosivas I would accept a 2nd at this time. I don't really want to give up a second so might have to get creative here with some sort of package. I would like to see where it goes long term with CIN. They love him and I 100% believe he is their hardest working WR. He might not be the most talented but his work ethic and improving his craft (route running) is paying off. Burrows also trusts him and knows exactly where he will be every route.
 
Did you see his tight catch on the sidelines where he toe tapped to stay in bounds? Was pretty sweet. He can make these tough catches and he has good hands.

What is great about this question (for the player in question) is having to ask which one you’re referring to. He’s already had three of those this year, one for a touchdown against Kansas City. But I think I know the one you’re talking about and it was sweet. None will be more difficult than the Burrow throw against NE in the flat toward the sideline, low and away from Iosivas. He picked it clean.

Guy has speed and hands—does he have the innate feel and route running? That’ll be the question now.
 
Yoshi is like a UDFA. They love him, no doubt, but there's always some supposed better athlete or higher pick ready to replace him.

Titans HC Callahan was even asked if NWI reminds him of Yoshi. He stopped, smiled, then had to say he can't comment on other teams players. It definitely was "heh, yep" reaction.

Jones is supposed to be the slot. Burton is supposed to have replaced Tee who is no longer on the team. That stuff didn't happen. Sooo bring back Tee and then Burton or Jones can fill the other spot....or not, so Iosivas will step up.

He's got nice hands, known for being intelligent and a good teammate, hustle, effort, there's always someone singling him out to reporters...they love this guy, but "he ain't it."

(Not a UDFA, bear with me though) He's gotta shed that UDFA label by making enough plays that they are no longer saying things like they're eager to see what Jones or Burton can do but instead saying those two will have to beat out Yoshi or Tee.

I don't think he can do it. Like NWI, he's a nice athlete but when ya watch him, he's a clear step down from the elite athletes that the other WRs are. Mariota and Tua have mentioned him (and every Hawaii athlete) and they'll say phrases like "he can contribute."

It seems like he's got this year to prove he can handle it. I would have him in redraft but realize he is the guy they sub for. I'd have him in dynasty because what if but he's got one year to shed this fictitious UDFA label
Wipes hands together, scowls, and proclaims "I knew it!"

I didn't roll with this and had a lot of Yoshi shares early on. He was so easily available.

For sure hypocrite
 
Dynasty drop?
0 catches with Higgins out isn't a good look.
I'm still in on this guy in deeper leagues if you can roster him. Maybe I go kick the tires again. Might not happen this year but Higgins is likely gone next. Should be able to get him cheap(er) now.
Kinda where I am. Guessing he "should" be the slot guy next year, but also, they really don't throw to the slot too often.
I think realistically long term he could be a Boyd style guy but with a bit more upside and someone that can play wideout. I think he's a long term play who could be flex-ible in your starting lineup. He runs good routes and had fantastic hands. He might never get to Tee Higgins level talent but that is OK too. Long term flex play in PPR leagues is pretty good for a guy who is dirt cheap right now.
 

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