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WR Brandin Cooks, Free Agent (3 Viewers)
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Footballguy
Yes I agree Love this guy he may be best wr in dynasty and I think he has very good chance in redraft to be. Doesn't look like a receiver and plays fast, smooth and has amazing cut back ability. Hard to cover. I like him as a wr3 flex guy going forward in ppr with High upside wr2.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Cooks will be used deep too.
Morgan had a couple drops/misses vs ATL btw, not great.
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rockaction
Footballguy
I watched the Saints for the entire '11 season as my magic football team had two Saints WRs. My favorite Brees reaction was when I started Devery Henderson one week in '11 and he threw a bomb to him for a TD. In the presser afterwards, Brees said, "Yeah, I totally trust Devery. Lot of trust on that play." Thing was, Brees was almost rolling his eyes as he said it. Devery fell off the radar after that.
Good blocking WR, though.
I drafted Cooks relatively early this year because I watched the NFL combine and came away just ridiculously impressed. These posts are good to hear. Fast and smooth with good hands, this cat.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Time for Cooks to continue where he left off last week.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
I hope he picks up where he left off last week! I have to decide if I can get him into my lineup at WR2 or Flex.
chinawildman
Footballguy
Surprising how little chatter there is about this kid. Led all Saints WRs in snaps and all Saints in targets week 3.
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Milkman
Footballguy
Yeah I'm legit impressed with this kid. There was a play yesterday where it looked like Brees anticipated Cooks getting open quickly on the sideline but for whatever reason Cooks didn't get any separation. Instead of Brees looking somewhere else he just stayed locked on Cooks and Cooks gave a head fake, worked back to the ball like a vet, got a tiny bit of separation, and bam Brees rifled it in there. It was a completely broken play but they looked like they have been playing together for years so it turned out to be a 9 yard gain.
I don't know what to think about the lack of targets down the field. I'm hearing teams are trying to take away the big play but if Cooks is going to score 15 points a game without getting a TD or a 50 yard catch he's going to be gold in PPR leagues for a long time because those plays will come. He's not even 21 years old yet.
The longer Colston looks bad the quicker they are going to turn to Cooks as well.
I don't know what to think about the lack of targets down the field. I'm hearing teams are trying to take away the big play but if Cooks is going to score 15 points a game without getting a TD or a 50 yard catch he's going to be gold in PPR leagues for a long time because those plays will come. He's not even 21 years old yet.
The longer Colston looks bad the quicker they are going to turn to Cooks as well.
chinawildman
Footballguy
Yep. As long as Colston keeps dropping balls and Cooks continues to catch everything thrown his way and making plays, I expect him to remain WR1 in that offense. My only criticism of him thus far is that he could stand to be a bit more decisive running with the ball. I thought he could've taken that one long run against Cleveland down the left sideline to the house, but he slowed down to try and shake a defender. Same goes for his punt returns..a bit too Tavonesque at times for my liking.Milkman said:
Speaking of Tavon, I'm guessing a lot of people avoided Cooks with the thinking that he was Tavon 2.0.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I thought he was so fast. That YPR is lame.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Last year the two fastest WRs were MIN WR Corderelle Patterson and STL WR Tavon Austin.
Patterson's stats his rookie season:
REC - 45
YDS - 479
AVG - 10.64
TD - 4
Tavon Austin's stats his rookie season:
Austin:
REC - 40
YDS - 418
AVG - 10.49
TD - 4
If you look at their individual games Corderelle Patterson only had one big game last year where he caught 5 passes for 141 yards and 1 TD. In his other 15 games he never had more than 54 yards. So if you take out that one big game Corderelle Patterson's numbers look much differently.
Corderrelle Patterson's 2013 rookie season taking out stats from his one big game:
REC - 40
YDS - 338
AVG - 8.45
TD - 3
Tavon Austin only had one big game where he caught 2 passes for 138 yards and 2 TDs. If you take out that one big game, in Tavon Austin's other 12 games his rookie numbers look like this"
Tavon Austin 2013 rookie season taking out stats from his one big game"
REC - 38
YDS - 277
AVG - 7.28
TD - 2
Point?
Last year I was shocked that the two fastest WRs had some of the lowest average per receptions and those numbers were even worse when you took out the lone outliner so carrying that forward to this year we see that New Orleans rookie WR Brandin Cooks he does not have that one big game to significantly increase his stats that both Corderrelle Patterson and Tavon Austin had last year but it is possible that he will have at least one big game over the course of the rest of the year.
I think by the time his rookie season is over he will have posted better stats than both Patterson and Austin did last year.
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⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
Brees having trouble finding time to throw the deep ball.
chinawildman
Footballguy
Cooks is not as elusive a runner as I thought he would be, I would compare his running style to CJ Spiller... very obvious he does not like contact, and too much wasted motion trying to juke people. His punt returns are very Tavon-ish.
That said, he is twice the receiver Tavon Austin could ever hope to be, and given how sluggish Colston looks, will continue to be a focal point in the saints offense.
That said, he is twice the receiver Tavon Austin could ever hope to be, and given how sluggish Colston looks, will continue to be a focal point in the saints offense.
football_genus
Footballguy
He's been a bit of a matchup play so far --- his big games have come against bad defenses (ATL and @CLE). And as a guy who relies on quickness, he probably benefits a lot from being on turf.
This week at home vs TB should be nice, but the Saints schedule looks pretty rough after the bye.
This week at home vs TB should be nice, but the Saints schedule looks pretty rough after the bye.
football_genus
Footballguy
chinawildman
Footballguy
LOL this thread was crickets when he was doing well, and now one subpar game and the haters gather.
Sure he hasn't been blowing up left and right like Benjamin, but he's scoring in the range of Garcon, hilton, Jefferey, Cruz, etc... So if he isn't living up to your expectations, you probably shouldn't have drafted him to be your WR1/2.
Sure he hasn't been blowing up left and right like Benjamin, but he's scoring in the range of Garcon, hilton, Jefferey, Cruz, etc... So if he isn't living up to your expectations, you probably shouldn't have drafted him to be your WR1/2.
football_genus
Footballguy
I had this impression too, but overall they have 426 YPG and 23.8 PPG, vs. 399.4 YPG and 25.9 PPG last year.
Though their two big offensive days were against Atlanta and Cleveland.
georg013
Footballguy
This is about a guy who was "touted" as a plug and play right now, a game changer. If indeed you are admitting that he is no more special than any other rookie this year then I agree with you. At least the other WRs have poor quarterback play and scheme to blame. I have seen nothing from Cooks that makes me believe he was worth a 1.01 in rookie drafts like many suggested. He's just a guy IMO who should be more than he is in this high powered offense with this hall of fame quarterback. Expected electric and got a flicker. Tavon Austin V.2 up to this point. Hopefully that changes but I doubt it. Smallish receivers tend to disappoint.
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chinawildman
Footballguy
I'm admitting that he's done about par for the course when it comes to where he was taken in redrafts. If you took him 1.01 in a rookie draft over Benjamin, well that's something you gotta live with. Aside from his lackluster punt return moves, I see very little similarities in his game compared to Austin. For one, Cooks actually attacks the ball in the air, whereas Austin generally falls down. Percy Harvin he is not, but Tavon Austin is a terrible comparison.
If you're expecting him to perform at a higher level than what he's done thus far, then you're expecting WR1 numbers out of a rookie WR. That's just plain unrealistic and you shouldn't be surprised at your disappointment.
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
I like what I see. Targets, good/great qb, not-so-good defense, Colston fading away. Would like to see him targeted on some deep throws.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Far and away the best WR on the team. Outside of Graham, no one else on this team can get open with any regularity. Still Graham and Cooks are 2 damn good weapons to throw to.
I think the lack of YPC is more a product of this offense. This offense just refuses to go vertical at all this year whatsoever. Even if it only happened a few times a season with Devery Henderson/Stills/etc in previous years, the threat was there. This year it's not at all.
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I own him in majority of my leagues so I've watched nearly every snap he's taken this year, but Brees has slipped quite a bit IMO. He's making some real head scratching plays you'd expect of Bubby Brister, not a future HOF QB. I think his declining play has been swept under the rug a bit more than someone like Brady due to smaller media market (and the fact he's thrown for 300+ in a few games because they've gotten behind so much)
Edit: I don't think Brees will hinder Cooks. I think Cooks can/will produce no matter what (as he's showing now). He does might have to create those long TD's (instead of being thrown them 30-40 yards downfield). Just my assessment on Brees.
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Colt Of Personality
Footballguy
I wish some of the targets would translate to a TD now and again 
Jimbo Slice
Footballguy
So it's the everybody besides Cooks show. Didn't see that comin
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Footballguy
yes alittle disappointed in Cooks in the last game vs the lions. only 3 targets??? what? why is this happening. Clearly looks like he is the 4th option at best. Very surprising esp with J. Graham being limited. Graham/ Colston/Stills are light years ahead if yesterday is any indication of going forward. I was bullish on him im not gonna lie but now in my redraft im thinking bench for K. wright or A. rob.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
I'm holding until i need him for bye weeks. After that, i can cut him. Not much else on the wire right now. Just need week 9.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
Cooks intriguing tonight in a possible shoutout?
Saints have only played two home games and they were Cooks' highest targets and receptions (10/8 and 11/9). No Pierre Thomas, and Graham is banged up.
Saints have only played two home games and they were Cooks' highest targets and receptions (10/8 and 11/9). No Pierre Thomas, and Graham is banged up.
