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WR Brian Thomas Jr., JAX (2 Viewers)
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titusbramble
Footballguy
How many people have him a clear tier above WR5+ but still below MHJ, Nabers and Odunze? Evaluating what to do with the 11 pick in SF rookie draft, and whether I want to move up or down assuming the 8-9 players I expect to go above him to indeed go above him. If the majority don't see him as a clear standout above that 5-whatever WR tier then it makes shuffling down a spot or two more favourable
Chaos34
Footballguy
How many? Almost everyone from what I've seen. There's more mixing the top three than the next three. I have seen very few, but a notable few, putting Worthy above him, and McConkey once. From a consensus standpoint, it's a pretty clear tier of one.
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
Move up if you can. He's quite clearly a notable step down from what's above him at the same position
He's been in a tier by himself for me as WR4 since January.
In FFPC SF startups he's only rookie drafted between 52-80. He's going as rookie9, player 68 and the next WR is Worthy going as player 84.
Unless he lands with the Bills I do think he could fall another spot or two with some strong RB landing spots, as is just Benson is drafted ahead of him, maybe get one more in the mix. But that 9-10 range seems likely, maybe he lands with the Steelers and he's sitting there at 11 for you but if you can move up 1-2 spots without paying a ton for it I would.
TripItUp
Footballguy
The big unknown with Thomas is if he can expand his route tree and be an elite route runner at the next level.
He comes with some risk IMHO, but generally I like the risk/reward profile so I'm probably a buyer but he's no slam dunk. If he goes to a less than ideal situation I could see myself passing on him.
He comes with some risk IMHO, but generally I like the risk/reward profile so I'm probably a buyer but he's no slam dunk. If he goes to a less than ideal situation I could see myself passing on him.
TripItUp
Footballguy
To me, landing spot is everything...I could see myself moving a player like Pearsall above Thomas if Pearsall were to land in a superior situation.
For example, Pearsall to KC and Thomas to Carolina...I'd likely have Pearsall higher.
metoo
Footballguy
I used to be one of those talent above all. Situation matters, how many have Olove ranked high and what really has he done? Two season of numbers that are easy to replace.
TripItUp
Footballguy
I edited my comment....in this particular situation, I believe landing spot is very important. I don't always weight landing spot this much.
titusbramble
Footballguy
Cheers, this is the sort of thing I'm after, if landing spot might be all it takes for some to drag him down then I'm more likely to not trade up - that said, that is in a position where I have an extremely strong WR group right now, have players that I'm a bit higher on than most in that typical 11-15 range, and some of what I've read in this thread comes as somewhat of a red flag when it comes to the types of WR I typically draft. That said on the last point, I do kind of think Thomas has more chance than most to correct that issue, and I am in the position where I have the time to wait and wouldn't need him to do things from day one. Not as if we need to wait long for the landing spot question to be resolved in any case
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
He's proud. He's something like a dad gushing that his son caught the biggest fish ever but it was six inches long; and it's just as expected when the dad or coach talks.
I remember his Combine interview which was very detailed w flaws/issues his players improved upon and a way more sincere evaluation.
This is fishing story time. The most important thing to remember is not every player is afforded that. You had to bust your tail and give a team your all for a coach to have this happy for them sadness.
I don't usually hear these about a WR and I sure don't about a diva. Thomas must have been ...ya know some high effort yes coach hustle guy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I'm hearing both Nabers and Thomas have minor left shoulder concerns.
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Grahamburn
Footballguy
Teams in the mid/late 20s I imagine.
Faust
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With the 23rd overall pick, the @jaguars select WR Brian Thomas Jr. from LSU
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Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
Seems like nearly ideal landing spot.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Other than that his QB isn’t very good
Hankmoody
Footballguy
AJ Brown, Davante Adams, DJ Moore, Justin Jefferson, Amon-Ra St. Brown, and Mike Evans would like a word.
titusbramble
Footballguy
First player I drafted in our rookie draft today, let's go
There's certainly a path for Thomas to be the Jags #1 sooner rather than later. Also, there is a case that Malik Nabers would have made the majority of top WR prospects of the last decade be the #2 behind him.
I do think Thomas is EXACTLY the type of WR Lawrence needed. Someone with some size and deep speed. I'm personally not a Lawrence fan, but I do think he's been sorta hamstrung by having smaller WRs, when he made his hay at Clemson with Tee Higgins and Justyn Ross.
I do think Thomas is EXACTLY the type of WR Lawrence needed. Someone with some size and deep speed. I'm personally not a Lawrence fan, but I do think he's been sorta hamstrung by having smaller WRs, when he made his hay at Clemson with Tee Higgins and Justyn Ross.
I had posted before the NFL draft about how I’d heard teams say how intelligent he was and it’s really nice to keep hearing that steady drumbeat. And let me say it’s of course good to hear for any player but especially a player whose physical tools are second to none in this class and one of the biggest knocks on him was that he had not shown a lot with respect to a full route tree.x.com
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Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Is that good or bad?
nittanylion
Footballguy
The above is making me think I can get a lot of mileage out of Kirk and Engram, relative to ADP, at least for the first several weeks of the Season.
What do you think Trevor Lawrence is going to do when the live bullets start flying?
What do you think Trevor Lawrence is going to do when the live bullets start flying?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Hide behind his wife……..jk before pitchforks come out.
while running a go route, more than a full mile per hour faster than any other receiver during that route.
