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WR Brian Thomas Jr., JAX (1 Viewer)

Jacob Gibbs
Every Brian Thomas Jr. preseason route

- 16% of the targets when on the field
- Only a 7.7% target share when sharing the field with Trevor Lawrence

Will there be enough targets for the rookie WR to be a good Fantasy producer?

He's winning his routes so often!

Brian Thomas Jr. route tree comparison:

NFL preseason rate - route - CFB rate

1% - screen - 0%
7% - cross - 8%
4% - slant - 5%
14% - in - 12%
14% - out - 5%
4% - comeback - 1%
14% - hitch - 27%
7% - corner - 2%
4% - post - 7%
32% - go - 21%
 
Travis Wingfield
.@MiamiDolphins HC Mike McDaniel Monday September 2 media availability coverage thread:

On Jags WR Brian Thomas Jr. - Super talented player that has a unique combination of being able to be a down the field third level receiver that can track and make plays down the field, while also having a route running skill set to do your underneath and intermediate routes.
 
Jacob Gibbs
Every Brian Thomas Jr. preseason route

- 16% of the targets when on the field
- Only a 7.7% target share when sharing the field with Trevor Lawrence

Will there be enough targets for the rookie WR to be a good Fantasy producer?

He's winning his routes so often!

Brian Thomas Jr. route tree comparison:

NFL preseason rate - route - CFB rate

1% - screen - 0%
7% - cross - 8%
4% - slant - 5%
14% - in - 12%
14% - out - 5%
4% - comeback - 1%
14% - hitch - 27%
7% - corner - 2%
4% - post - 7%
IThis is very interesting stats to give us. thanks.

as for the low target share when on the field with Lawrence..... it sometimes takes some time to develop that trust you need to produce well.

kids a rookie. there is a reason why rookies rarely get drafted early in redraft. it usually takes time to develop that rapport. and while he gets open a lot, this is pre season. some of the guys hes running against are the equivalent of college players. when running against the first team, I'd like to see how those numbers look then.

either way, I personally think he has a solid chance to be one of those players who breaks out in the second half of the season. I am not certain hes an early performer. Not yet anyhow. but the talent in front of him isnt robust to a point where he cant work his way up the lineup. I suspect he opens the season as the teams #3 and will eventually earn more looks and more playing time as the year progresses. I figure he could be the #2 within a month, or he could become the #2 by midseason or late season. its also possible he progresses faster but these things are really hard to predict. if a homer here has been attending the camps it would be nice to know how hes doing when they put him in against the #1's on Defense. thats the info we REALLY want to know.
 
Finally got around to putting in all of my season long bets today and while this is obviously very much influenced by the odds; I did bet for Thomas to have most regular season rookie receiving yards at +1300 and AP offensive rookie of the year at +4200. Never bets I'd make straight up, but suffice to say, I'm all in on this kid and a firm believer. I'm also still a very big TLaw apologist, so that colors my projection for him as well.
 
I think around the half way point of the season that Thomas will be their #1 WR.
:2cents: I think targets will be more engram and Kirk, but Thomas could very well have the most yards.
Honestly the combo scares this titans fan - not quite Stroud/Nico or Dell but could be very good.
 
Finally got around to putting in all of my season long bets today and while this is obviously very much influenced by the odds; I did bet for Thomas to have most regular season rookie receiving yards at +1300 and AP offensive rookie of the year at +4200. Never bets I'd make straight up, but suffice to say, I'm all in on this kid and a firm believer. I'm also still a very big TLaw apologist, so that colors my projection for him as well.
brave pick given the talent in this class. Not that hes not talented, but there are at least 3 or 4 really talented players. some of who were dropped in very good situations (cough Cough Harrison)

to summarize, this might be the most talented class for WR in over a decade. possibly longer.

but hey I wish you luck.
 
Finally got around to putting in all of my season long bets today and while this is obviously very much influenced by the odds; I did bet for Thomas to have most regular season rookie receiving yards at +1300 and AP offensive rookie of the year at +4200. Never bets I'd make straight up, but suffice to say, I'm all in on this kid and a firm believer. I'm also still a very big TLaw apologist, so that colors my projection for him as well.
brave pick given the talent in this class. Not that hes not talented, but there are at least 3 or 4 really talented players. some of who were dropped in very good situations (cough Cough Harrison)

to summarize, this might be the most talented class for WR in over a decade. possibly longer.

but hey I wish you luck.
100% on even odds I go Marvin all day everyday over the pack. I don't bet large sums, just 10-50$ normally on long odds stuff for fun and to give a little extra to root for over the season. Across 10-15 of these bets a year I hit on maybe 1-2 and break even so I can do it again next year. I also have high ownership of BTJ in fantasy because of his low draft cost, pairs well in a stack my best ball leagues with TLaw, and I do think he's a solid chance to come on strong over this season. So it made sense if I'm rooting for him all year in fantasy to put a lil sugar on the long shot of him hitting those targets. Kyler and/or MHJ would likely have to have some major issues (won't use the other i-word here) for it to happen for sure!
 
Finally got around to putting in all of my season long bets today and while this is obviously very much influenced by the odds; I did bet for Thomas to have most regular season rookie receiving yards at +1300 and AP offensive rookie of the year at +4200. Never bets I'd make straight up, but suffice to say, I'm all in on this kid and a firm believer. I'm also still a very big TLaw apologist, so that colors my projection for him as well.
I like that! Good bold play.

Hopefully he can turn into the non knucklehead version of.........Josh Gordon.
 
I think around the half way point of the season that Thomas will be their #1 WR.
:2cents: I think targets will be more engram and Kirk, but Thomas could very well have the most yards.
Honestly the combo scares this titans fan - not quite Stroud/Nico or Dell but could be very good.
Of course Kirk and Engram will get theirs, but I'm saying Thomas will eventually be the alpha WR on that team.
 
I think around the half way point of the season that Thomas will be their #1 WR.
:2cents: I think targets will be more engram and Kirk, but Thomas could very well have the most yards.
Honestly the combo scares this titans fan - not quite Stroud/Nico or Dell but could be very good.
Of course Kirk and Engram will get theirs, but I'm saying Thomas will eventually be the alpha WR on that team.
eventually? yes.
its just a matter of time. but that time could come anytime in the next 2 years.

I'm guessing by midseason hes likely at least #2 on the depth chart but that is just a guess. it could happen sooner or later. it is also possible (though a bit unlikely) that hes the #1 guy when they play this week.

Though I do think they give Kirk another shot to prove he can be a #1 first. Management gave him that absolutely stupid contract so I suspect they will try one more time to prove they were not idiots to sign him to that kind of cash.

for the record, this is more about management proving they arent stupid than it is about picking the best WR. it shouldnt be that way, but I suspect that's the way it is.
 

Jacksonville Jaguars wide receiver Brian Thomas Jr. was named one of the starters ahead of the Week 1 matchup against the Miami Dolphins. Unsurprisingly, Thomas has been named as a starter after the Jaguars selected him in the first round of this year's draft. Thomas had a breakout season during final year at LSU where he recorded 1,177 receiving yards with 17 touchdowns. There was little doubt that Thomas wouldn't be a starter given Parker Washington and Devin Duvernay were his main competition. Now, Thomas will have to fight for targets with Christian Kirk and newcomer Gabe Davis. The expectation is that Thomas is going to see a solid volume of targets making him worth snagging in just about every fantasy format. The rookie wideout could end up being the best receiving option on the team before the season is done.--Andy Webb - RotoBaller
Source: jaguars.com
 
@32BeatWriters
On Brian Thomas (#21 on the list):

"The Jaguars won't be afraid to let Thomas swim as a rookie, but it will be a waiting game to see how much of the passing game they put on his plate.

So far, the reviews on Thomas have been positive from the Jaguars' coaching staff. He has begun to build chemistry with Trevor Lawrence on the field while managing the influx of information off the field."
 
@32BeatWriters
On Brian Thomas (#21 on the list):

"The Jaguars won't be afraid to let Thomas swim as a rookie, but it will be a waiting game to see how much of the passing game they put on his plate.

So far, the reviews on Thomas have been positive from the Jaguars' coaching staff. He has begun to build chemistry with Trevor Lawrence on the field while managing the influx of information off the field."
He's looked great in a small sampling so far. 4 targets not including the pass interference that would've otherwise gone for a touchdown. Once he starts to see more targets look out!
 
I was impressed by the few highlights of him I saw on the various clips. Paid 1.07 and no regrets

Comical addition: apparently others saw his performance and read a few “buy now” reviews. I got 2 offers for him today. 1) DJ Moore even swap. 2) DSwift + Kirk.
Declined both. Nothing on the Chicago Offense is in a buyers market right now.
 
I was impressed by the few highlights of him I saw on the various clips. Paid 1.07 and no regrets

Comical addition: apparently others saw his performance and read a few “buy now” reviews. I got 2 offers for him today. 1) DJ Moore even swap. 2) DSwift + Kirk.
Declined both. Nothing on the Chicago Offense is in a buyers market right now.
I'd have declined those as well. Thomas may develop into the Jags' WR1 relatively soon and that could elevate that entire offense. Chicago's offense could get better but it seems a steeper hill.
 
He’s the reason I’m considering dropping Kirk in redraft leagues lol. T Law clearly has the hots for him as he’s on the field at almost all times.
 
Thomas is the type of WR they want in that position. He fits much better than Ridley there. And if he gets Ridley's endzone shares he's going to score 10tds. I suspect he's going to be a high variance WR this year and settle into a more consistent producer next year. So if you can handle the 3/40/0 weeks to get the 8/120/2 weeks, start him.
 
Love my B. Thomas in the mid rounds, but now thinking of dangling him for underperforming WRs:

* M. Harrison
* M. Nabers
* D. London
* C. Olave

Of course, recency bias has me thinking this is a bad idea lol.
 
What happened to the laughing emoji? Would be nice to use it as a way to react to someone’s humor.
I guess you have to reply or quote :ROFLMAO:
Why the difficulty?
No idea. Laughing emoji would be better
My guess is that people are using it to laugh at posters to be mean? Otherwise I can't imagine why they would remove it.
Maybe I'm in the wrong threads but it seems pretty civil around here.
 
What happened to the laughing emoji? Would be nice to use it as a way to react to someone’s humor.
I guess you have to reply or quote :ROFLMAO:
Why the difficulty?
No idea. Laughing emoji would be better
My guess is that people are using it to laugh at posters to be mean? Otherwise I can't imagine why they would remove it.
Maybe I'm in the wrong threads but it seems pretty civil around here.
Did you see the Spencer Ware threads back in the day?
 
What happened to the laughing emoji? Would be nice to use it as a way to react to someone’s humor.
I guess you have to reply or quote :ROFLMAO:
Why the difficulty?
No idea. Laughing emoji would be better
My guess is that people are using it to laugh at posters to be mean? Otherwise I can't imagine why they would remove it.
Maybe I'm in the wrong threads but it seems pretty civil around here.
Did you see the Spencer Ware threads back in the day?
key words "back in the day". Why all of a sudden? Must be some thread going on right now where it's being used in a bad way. Probably that Tyreek Hill detained thread, which doesn't belong in the Shark Pool Forum anyway.
 
Austin Abbott
𝗕𝗿𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗧𝗵𝗼𝗺𝗮𝘀 𝗝𝗿. ranks 𝟭𝘀𝘁 in the 𝗡𝗙𝗟 in 𝗥𝗼𝘂𝘁𝗲 𝗪𝗶𝗻 𝗥𝗮𝘁𝗲 (𝟵𝟮.𝟵%)

𝗛𝗲𝗿𝗲’𝘀 𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝟭𝟳 𝗚𝗮𝗺𝗲 𝗣𝗮𝗰𝗲:

➖𝟱𝟭 𝗥𝗲𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀
➖𝟭,𝟭𝟵𝟵 𝗬𝗮𝗿𝗱𝘀
➖𝟵 𝗧𝗗’𝘀

𝙉𝙤𝙩𝙖𝙗𝙡𝙚 𝙄𝙣𝙛𝙤𝙧𝙢𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣:

➖𝗪𝗥𝟮𝟲 in 𝗙𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗮𝘀𝘆 𝗣𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘁𝘀 (𝟮𝟲.𝟭)
➖𝟲𝟭𝘀𝘁 in 𝗧𝗮𝗿𝗴𝗲𝘁𝘀 (𝟴)

It’s blatantly obvious that the 𝗝𝗮𝗴𝘂𝗮𝗿𝘀 𝗡𝗘𝗘𝗗 to make 𝗕𝗿𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗧𝗵𝗼𝗺𝗮𝘀 𝗝𝗿. more of a 𝗳𝗼𝗰𝗮𝗹 𝗽𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘁, 𝗧𝗿𝗲𝘃𝗼𝗿 𝗟𝗮𝘄𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲 has a 𝟭𝟱𝟱.𝟮 𝗤𝗕 𝗥𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗣𝗲𝗿 𝗧𝗮𝗿𝗴𝗲𝘁 (𝟯𝗿𝗱 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗡𝗙𝗟) with 𝗕𝗧𝗝.

Ranking 𝟵𝘁𝗵 in 𝗧𝗮𝗿𝗴𝗲𝘁 𝗦𝗲𝗽𝗮𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 (𝟮.𝟳𝟱) is 𝗪𝗜𝗟𝗗𝗟𝗬 impressive after just 𝟮 𝗡𝗙𝗟 𝗴𝗮𝗺𝗲𝘀. When you combine his ability to 𝘀𝗲𝗽𝗮𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗲, his abundance of 𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗲𝗱 (𝟰.𝟯𝟯), and his 𝘀𝗶𝘇𝗲 (𝟲’𝟯, 𝟮𝟬𝟵 𝗹𝗯𝘀), you begin to understand why he was a 𝟭𝘀𝘁 𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗱 𝘀𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 in the 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟰 𝗡𝗙𝗟 𝗗𝗿𝗮𝗳𝘁.

𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗰𝗮𝘂𝗴𝗵𝘁 𝗺𝘆 𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻:

➖𝟰𝘁𝗵 in 𝗬𝗮𝗿𝗱𝘀 𝗣𝗲𝗿 𝗧𝗮𝗿𝗴𝗲𝘁 (𝟭𝟳.𝟲)
➖𝟲𝘁𝗵 in 𝗙𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗮𝘀𝘆 𝗣𝗼𝗶𝗻𝘁𝘀 𝗣𝗲𝗿 𝗧𝗮𝗿𝗴𝗲𝘁 (𝟯.𝟲𝟴)
➖𝟴𝘁𝗵 in 𝗬𝗮𝗿𝗱𝘀 𝗣𝗲𝗿 𝗥𝗲𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 (𝟮𝟯.𝟱)

𝗕𝗿𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗧𝗵𝗼𝗺𝗮𝘀 𝗝𝗿. truly looks like 𝗝𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀𝗼𝗻𝘃𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗲’𝘀 𝗪𝗥𝟭
 
With C. Kupp down, I really need this guy to grow up fast.

And also need T. Lawrence to get his head out of his **s.
Who would you play between him and Nailor?
If you need floor play Nailor. If you need ceiling play Thomas
I don't know about you, but I need both a floor and ceiling where I live. It's cold here in Minnesota.
BUF secondary was looking damn good before Tua went down last week. Not a great matchup for Thomas unfortunately.
 

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