WR Calvin Ridley, TEN (1 Viewer)

[Stinkin Ref]

I appreciate the thought you put into that response.

"Twisties" is just a word to describe a mental health issue that is more closely related to PTSD than anything. Years and years of performing feats that regularly put you at risk of grievous bodily harm can eventually take a toll on the strongest of minds. And there is no question that Biles is one of the toughest S.O.B.s both physically and mentally that ever laced them up.

even Biles herself said EVERY gymnast goes through the twisties....and they have to work through it...so I guess every gymnast has serious mental health/PTSD issues...?....if you as a parent know your child is going to develop "serious mental health/PTSD issues" if they participate in gymnastics, why would ever allow them to do it...?...

my point is I think there is most likely a big difference between what Biles and EVERY other gymnast goes through and what Ridley is going through....Simone got through her "PTSD" in about 4 days good enough to launch herself around on a 4 inch wide beam, 4 feet off the ground....

 

[Chaka]

even Biles herself said EVERY gymnast goes through the twisties....and they have to work through it...so I guess every gymnast has serious mental health/PTSD issues...?....if you as a parent know your child is going to develop "serious mental health/PTSD issues" if they participate in gymnastics, why would ever allow them to do it...?...

my point is I think there is most likely a big difference between what Biles and EVERY other gymnast goes through and what Ridley is going through....Simone got through her "PTSD" in about 4 days good enough to launch herself around on a 4 inch wide beam, 4 feet off the ground....

Of course she has to work through it, everyone with mental health issues has to work through it. What's the alternative?

And people let their children do all sorts of crazy ####. If parents were sane football would never exist.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

even Biles herself said EVERY gymnast goes through the twisties....and they have to work through it...so I guess every gymnast has serious mental health/PTSD issues...?....if you as a parent know your child is going to develop "serious mental health/PTSD issues" if they participate in gymnastics, why would ever allow them to do it...?...

Consider the age these athletes start training, and the physical and mental demands put on them. I'm sure a high % do struggle. That's why sports therapists and psychologists have careers. 

I know an Olympiad in training. He's a gymnast (trampoline) - and he trains 6 days a week and has for his whole life. He is constantly being put under a microscope, constantly failing & getting back up again, only to be judged again. Missing the cut, making the cut - the stress is off the charts. He has a lovely supportive family, but I wouldn't doubt he suffers some issues. 

my point is I think there is most likely a big difference between what Biles and EVERY other gymnast goes through and what Ridley is going through....Simone got through her "PTSD" in about 4 days good enough to launch herself around on a 4 inch wide beam, 4 feet off the ground....

There is definitely a difference between whatever Biles was going through and what Ridley is going through. And they are BOTH mental health issues. 

That Biles recovered quickly is a testament to her strength as a human being & should be applauded, yet Fox News and their talking heads chose to vilify her instead. I'm not sure what your vitriol about Biles is about, but it's weird and kind of gross. 

People struggle. People get help. Casting judgement on them isn't of value to anyone. Ever. 

 

[Insein]

I mean Biles also had to deal with all the Nasser stuff too. So hers is probably a bit different than Ridley's situation. 

 

[Joe Bryant]

The reality is we truly don't have a clue what Ridley is dealing with. Nor did we with Simone Biles.

And to speculate and try to fabricate what it might be and play detective for something that private and personal feels inappropriate. 

Way better to give them the space they're asking for and move on in my opinion. 

 

[Stinkin Ref]

The reality is we truly don't have a clue what Ridley is dealing with. Nor did we with Simone Biles.

And to speculate and try to fabricate what it might be and play detective for it feels inappropriate. 

Way better to give them the space they're asking for and move on in my opinion. 

I was just going off what she said....she said she had a case of the twisties that all gymnasts get and have to work through...she was able to do so in 4 days...but you are right it's not fair to speculate about Ridley....maybe seeing Biles recover so quickly from her "serious mental health issues" will give him hope when he gets the help he needs...

 

[Ned]

Ridley just needs to go play football with a real live cougar and he'll be cured.

In all seriousness, I agree with Joe.  We're all just guessing on what's going on, so we're best to just leave him be and let him get things straight.  I admire his courage to speak up and say he needs a break/help.

 

[Stat Correction]

Mental illness has always existed. In yesteryear, unless completely melted down, men were expected to "rub some dirt on it" and move forward.....and, for better or worse, this is what they usually did. 

I'm probably a lot older than most of you. In fact, my dad (barely) survived the Great Depression in a large family share-cropped cotton, nearly starving, and was a WW11 Battle of the Bulge survivor and veteran. Those men of the greatest generation were a different lot. And, yes, they were mentally tougher, in my humble opinion. Much more so. Yes, they struggled with things like "expressing their emotions", but they had grit. They won world wars and built the greatest nation on earth with sacrifice, sweat, and blood. They were tough dudes. 

So, perhaps this is a good chance to learn a little about each other (in a faceless and sterilized internet kinda way). You see, even though we have no idea about exactly what he is dealing with, I can understand and appreciate all who automatically and staunchly defend Ridley's actions (or inactions, however you want to look at it). However, I already know that I will no receive the same understanding, in kind.....and that's unfortunate. Especially considering the fact that we all want the same thing for the guy......to be well.

Obviously, I'm not a licensed psychologist.....but If he truly had a meltdown rendering him incapable of playing football, then OF COURSE he shouldn't be playing football. If this turns out to be the case, then there is really nothing to debate, because we all agree. I have heard nobody say anything differently.

However, if he is dealing with some mental difficulties similar to what many of us have dealt with at one point or another in life, then I must be honest and leave the solidarity bandwagon, admitting that I am in the camp of playing ball. This is his job.....and a darn lucrative one, at that. So, yes, unless incapacitated, rub some dirt on it and push through. This is what I would try to do (and have done). If you knew me, you would realize that I am not a blathering idiot, insensitive, a blow-hard, or "tough guy". In fact, most describe me as pretty reserved and thoughtful.....but I am a guy that was raised to have a little more old-school American mentality on this type of issue than most, and I am not ashamed of it. 

So please, before disparaging me, remember two things:

1. We all hope that Ridley is gonna be alright. None of us are savages.

2. I understand and respect your differing opinion on this matter.....and would simply ask the same from you. After all, if/when we as Americans lose the ability and willingness to engage in civil discourse and debate....all is lost.

 

[RenegadeRoy]

I've written and deleted a few responses to various posts here but I think I'll just boil it down to this:

Many here don't seem to have a clear understanding of what mental health/mental health struggles is/are. This isn't anyone's fault, it's a piece of our society that is largely ignored/minimized as "weakness" for generations (thankfully this is changing). It's not a matter of toughness. It's not a "I'm having a bad day" thing. It's just as much a health issue as diabetes or cancer and can be just as sudden and uncontrollable.

I highly recommend everyone see a mental health professional even if it's just once or twice a year. It can save your life, or at the very least make it a little better.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

The reality is we truly don't have a clue what Ridley is dealing with. Nor did we with Simone Biles.

And to speculate and try to fabricate what it might be and play detective for something that private and personal feels inappropriate. 

Way better to give them the space they're asking for and move on in my opinion. 

and to be fair @Joe Bryant....you are the one that started the Biles thread in the free for all forum asking people their thoughts.....and then you post this.....???.....

 

[fatness]

However, if he is dealing with some mental difficulties similar to what many of us have dealt with at one point or another in life, then I must be honest and leave the solidarity bandwagon, admitting that I am in the camp of playing ball.

I don't think you have any knowledge of how many people on FBG have had mental health issues, or how much those mental health issues affected their lives, so while you have ever right to your opinion I think it's based on your assumptions rather than knowlege.

 

[Chaka]

Mental illness has always existed. In yesteryear, unless completely melted down, men were expected to "rub some dirt on it" and move forward.....and, for better or worse, this is what they usually did. 

I'm probably a lot older than most of you. In fact, my dad (barely) survived the Great Depression in a large family share-cropped cotton, nearly starving, and was a WW11 Battle of the Bulge survivor and veteran. Those men of the greatest generation were a different lot. And, yes, they were mentally tougher, in my humble opinion. Much more so. Yes, they struggled with things like "expressing their emotions", but they had grit. They won world wars and built the greatest nation on earth with sacrifice, sweat, and blood. They were tough dudes. 

So, perhaps this is a good chance to learn a little about each other (in a faceless and sterilized internet kinda way). You see, even though we have no idea about exactly what he is dealing with, I can understand and appreciate all who automatically and staunchly defend Ridley's actions (or inactions, however you want to look at it). However, I already know that I will no receive the same understanding, in kind.....and that's unfortunate. Especially considering the fact that we all want the same thing for the guy......to be well.

Obviously, I'm not a licensed psychologist.....but If he truly had a meltdown rendering him incapable of playing football, then OF COURSE he shouldn't be playing football. If this turns out to be the case, then there is really nothing to debate, because we all agree. I have heard nobody say anything differently.

However, if he is dealing with some mental difficulties similar to what many of us have dealt with at one point or another in life, then I must be honest and leave the solidarity bandwagon, admitting that I am in the camp of playing ball. This is his job.....and a darn lucrative one, at that. So, yes, unless incapacitated, rub some dirt on it and push through. This is what I would try to do (and have done). If you knew me, you would realize that I am not a blathering idiot, insensitive, a blow-hard, or "tough guy". In fact, most describe me as pretty reserved and thoughtful.....but I am a guy that was raised to have a little more old-school American mentality on this type of issue than most, and I am not ashamed of it. 

So please, before disparaging me, remember two things:

1. We all hope that Ridley is gonna be alright. None of us are savages.

2. I understand and respect your differing opinion on this matter.....and would simply ask the same from you. After all, if/when we as Americans lose the ability and willingness to engage in civil discourse and debate....all is lost.

I sincerely appreciate this response.

The men of your fathers generation have a lot to be proud of and no one questions that. But the nation they built was built for some, not all. Among the excluded classes were those who had mental health issues. To speak about or show those issues lead to exclusion on potentially so many levels that it could not be covered in a single post. But we should note that exclusion from making a living was chief among them. These people were faced with a hard choice and many persevered. They self medicated, they acted out, often violently, towards their friends or, more often their families. Their peers looked the other way with "a man's gotta do" attitude because as the man he was part a more protected class than others.

Those that couldn't function on that level, with all the horrid consequences associated with it, fell off the grid, were locked up in asylums ill equipped to deal with them, thrown in prisons that were even less equipped or they simply committed suicide.

The point is there were deep, harmful consequences to rubbing dirt on it. Consequences often not seen, or if seen not associated with an underlying mental health condition.

No blame should fall on that generation, or the ones that followed (right or wrong I have personally always scoffed at the "It's my parent's fault!" as an excuse for not trying) because they were not equipped to even begin to understand what they were seeing. So they responded in the only ways they understood. And slowly we have expanded upon our knowledge of these issues. Our knowledge has grown more often than not because of these same men. But it has been a slow excruciating process and we have by no means crossed a goal line.

The bar for NOT speaking out about your mental health issues, that may prevent you from performing your job without more severe consequences, is being raised. And that bar should be raised. Because the alternatives of the past are not even short term solutions, let alone medium or long term solutions. That bar is being raised by people like Simone Biles, Lane Johnson, Naomi Osaka and Calvin Ridley.

I hope you do not take my response as a personal attack or in any way diminishing all of our ancestors.

 

[Blackbear]

I sincerely appreciate this response.

The men of your fathers generation have a lot to be proud of and no one questions that. But the nation they built was built for some, not all. Among the excluded classes were those who had mental health issues. To speak about or show those issues lead to exclusion on potentially so many levels that it could not be covered in a single post. But we should note that exclusion from making a living was chief among them. These people were faced with a hard choice and many persevered. They self medicated, they acted out, often violently, towards their friends or, more often their families. Their peers looked the other way with "a man's gotta do" attitude because as the man he was part a more protected class than others.

Those that couldn't function on that level, with all the horrid consequences associated with it, fell off the grid, were locked up in asylums ill equipped to deal with them, thrown in prisons that were even less equipped or they simply committed suicide.

The point is there were deep, harmful consequences to rubbing dirt on it. Consequences often not seen, or if seen not associated with an underlying mental health condition.

No blame should fall on that generation, or the ones that followed (right or wrong I have personally always scoffed at the "It's my parent's fault!" as an excuse for not trying) because they were not equipped to even begin to understand what they were seeing. So they responded in the only ways they understood. And slowly we have expanded upon our knowledge of these issues. Our knowledge has grown more often than not because of these same men. But it has been a slow excruciating process and we have by no means crossed a goal line.

The bar for NOT speaking out about your mental health issues, that may prevent you from performing your job without more severe consequences, is being raised. And that bar should be raised. Because the alternatives of the past are not even short term solutions, let alone medium or long term solutions. That bar is being raised by people like Simone Biles, Lane Johnson, Naomi Osaka and Calvin Ridley.

I hope you do not take my response as a personal attack or in any way diminishing all of our ancestors.

This was well written and is an example of how people should respond. I hope he gets his time off that he needs. 

 

[Stat Correction]

I hope you do not take my response as a personal attack or in any way diminishing all of our ancestors

Not at all. In fact, I considered it well thought out and appreciated the input. Thank you.

 

[biju]

I’m not a fanboy - your assertions are grating. I drafted Ridley because he was BPA at 3.01, and because he proved last year he could be an alpha WR. 

no one could have foreseen this & you were on an island if you had reservations about him. Can you quote any posts from the off-season where you expressed these concerns? Just curious. 

No, I don't have any posts but thanks for insinuating I'm a liar if I can't prove my opinions. 

Perhaps the reason I don't post more here is because of exactly this type of reaction. 

 

[Johnny Utah #9]

All discussion of his situation aside, on a practical level, what are managers doing with him going forward. Cutting, holding? And for those who don’t have him, and thoughts on buying low? And if so, what would his managers be looking for in return for him?

Not to be crass, but I’m interested in hearing some theories on how people who are rostering him (or possibly looking to) are handling the situation on a practical level.

 

[Runnyb]

I wish Ridley all the best and hope he gets through this rough time. Mental health issues are something I assumed almost everyone struggles with.

With that said, when or where would be an appropriate time to ask what fantasy owners here are doing with Ridley moving forward? Droppable in short bench leagues?

 

[Chaka]

All discussion of his situation aside, on a practical level, what are managers doing with him going forward. Cutting, holding? And for those who don’t have him, and thoughts on buying low? And if so, what would his managers be looking for in return for him?

Not to be crass, but I’m interested in hearing some theories on how people who are rostering him (or possibly looking to) are handling the situation on a practical level.

Not crass at all, it's possible to have two different discussions at the same time.

In redraft I'm recommending that, if they can, people hold for 5 weeks, the Lane Johnson time frame. That puts you at the cusp of your playoffs and the hard decisions that come with it.

And dynasty he's still a strong hold.

ETA: @Runnyb

 

[Chaka]

No, I don't have any posts but thanks for insinuating I'm a liar if I can't prove my opinions. 

Perhaps the reason I don't post more here is because of exactly this type of reaction. 

I wouldn't take it that way. HSG is a good guy and I sincerely doubt he was coming at you with any kind of malice. At worst he was guilty of bad form. Being down on Ridley definitely put you on an island, but providing proof doesn't inform the discussion anymore than not providing it.

FBGs is not a toxic environment. Express your opinions, defend them or change them depending on how the conversation goes. At the end of the day we all move on.

Regardless, the only you can control in this world is your response. There are too many victims in this world, no need to add another.

I hope you choose to keep posting.

 

[Johnny Utah #9]

Not crass at all, it's possible to have two different discussions at the same time.

In redraft I'm recommending that, if they can, people hold for 5 weeks, the Lane Johnson time frame. That puts you at the cusp of your playoffs and the hard decisions that come with it.

And dynasty he's still a strong hold.

ETA: @Runnyb

Thanks for the response. I agree that he is definitely a hold. This is a very fluid situation to say the least. In one redraft league I’m considering trying to trade for him on the cheap. I have an excess of WR3 types and wouldn’t mind moving one for a guy with that kind of upside. If he doesn’t end up coming back this year, not a big loss. From a Manny Sanders to Christian Kirk range, you think a manager would be interested? Or would it take someone more in the Sutton range?  Of course it would depend on how badly they needed a WR I guess.

 

[Chaka]

Thanks for the response. I agree that he is definitely a hold. This is a very fluid situation to say the least. In one redraft league I’m considering trying to trade for him on the cheap. I have an excess of WR3 types and wouldn’t mind moving one for a guy with that kind of upside. If he doesn’t end up coming back this year, not a big loss. From a Manny Sanders to Christian Kirk range, you think a manager would be interested? Or would it take someone more in the Sutton range?  Of course it would depend on how badly they needed a WR  obviously. 

Everyone is different but I imagine Sanders has more name value than Kirk. But after a mediocre performance I think you may need to wait for Sanders next big game before expecting anything other than an auto-rejection.

Sutton may work, and probably not terrible timing with Jeudy back, but you gotta be deep enough to withstand it if Ridley doesn't come back.

 

[Blackbear]

Even Heroes need a day off. 

 

[Insein]

Im Holding. 

 

[Capella]

Mental illness has always existed. In yesteryear, unless completely melted down, men were expected to "rub some dirt on it" and move forward.....and, for better or worse, this is what they usually did. 

I'm probably a lot older than most of you. In fact, my dad (barely) survived the Great Depression in a large family share-cropped cotton, nearly starving, and was a WW11 Battle of the Bulge survivor and veteran. Those men of the greatest generation were a different lot. And, yes, they were mentally tougher, in my humble opinion. Much more so. Yes, they struggled with things like "expressing their emotions", but they had grit. They won world wars and built the greatest nation on earth with sacrifice, sweat, and blood. They were tough dudes. 

So, perhaps this is a good chance to learn a little about each other (in a faceless and sterilized internet kinda way). You see, even though we have no idea about exactly what he is dealing with, I can understand and appreciate all who automatically and staunchly defend Ridley's actions (or inactions, however you want to look at it). However, I already know that I will no receive the same understanding, in kind.....and that's unfortunate. Especially considering the fact that we all want the same thing for the guy......to be well.

Obviously, I'm not a licensed psychologist.....but If he truly had a meltdown rendering him incapable of playing football, then OF COURSE he shouldn't be playing football. If this turns out to be the case, then there is really nothing to debate, because we all agree. I have heard nobody say anything differently.

However, if he is dealing with some mental difficulties similar to what many of us have dealt with at one point or another in life, then I must be honest and leave the solidarity bandwagon, admitting that I am in the camp of playing ball. This is his job.....and a darn lucrative one, at that. So, yes, unless incapacitated, rub some dirt on it and push through. This is what I would try to do (and have done). If you knew me, you would realize that I am not a blathering idiot, insensitive, a blow-hard, or "tough guy". In fact, most describe me as pretty reserved and thoughtful.....but I am a guy that was raised to have a little more old-school American mentality on this type of issue than most, and I am not ashamed of it. 

So please, before disparaging me, remember two things:

1. We all hope that Ridley is gonna be alright. None of us are savages.

2. I understand and respect your differing opinion on this matter.....and would simply ask the same from you. After all, if/when we as Americans lose the ability and willingness to engage in civil discourse and debate....all is lost.

this is a good post but just because people suffered in the past doesn’t mean they should have to in the future. We know more now than people did 60 years ago and that should be used for good. And I think there is a level of toughness to Ridley saying I am not ok and I need help - to do that on a level where people would be discussing him nationally must have taken a lot. That’s brave. 
 

I feel like that pressure where a person is hurting so much they can’t do something he (theoretically) loves like playing football must be so intense that I’m just glad I have not experienced it. 

 

[Blackbear]

For those that haven’t had these problems. I can tell you it isn’t pretty. https://youtu.be/tdsJI8Wc2D4
 

 

[Blackbear]

Everyone loves me. It isn’t ever easy. 

 

[Blackbear]

Now imagine that women… when I’ve never left my house? 

 

[Blackbear]

Not saying concussion was reason for it. But I can tell you I’ve had three. My third set me down for a good six weeks. 

 

[Blackbear]

I’m not sure anyone can keep bragging on about mental issues. 

 

[Blackbear]

If want. I’m your guy. 

 

[Blackbear]

For those that want see it’s easy have mental illness. I recommend you come see me. 

 

[Blackbear]

Evidently you’ve had your family and kids say dad don’t. 

 

[Blackbear]

Also. It annoys me when I drive down road and they have f Biden and don’t tread on me flags. Whilst they are make traffic accidents. It is an oxymoron 

 

[Blackbear]

Sleep and enjoy 

https://youtu.be/Cc7QLxHMqvM

 

[Blackbear]

I don’t get nearly the money that these guys do. But, to be honest I go up and down. So I am sorry when I say… #### you all that can’t understand a guy wants take time away. 

 

[Blackbear]

There is a right side or not. 

 

[Blackbear]

https://youtu.be/QkF3oxziUI4

 

[Blackbear]

https://youtu.be/mzvk0fWtCs0

 

[Blackbear]

You think it is easy to get out of bed every day. Wish forth those of you could walk in my shoes. 

 

[Blackbear]

https://youtu.be/mzvk0fWtCs0

 

[Blackbear]

For those of you that haven’t ever been bad depressed. I think good on you. Unfortunately I have been afflicted. So I know what I go through everyday. To be honest. I don’t want to get up. But I do. 

 

[Blackbear]

I get up each day knowing I can make someone’s like better. 

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I wish Ridley all the best and hope he gets through this rough time. Mental health issues are something I assumed almost everyone struggles with.

With that said, when or where would be an appropriate time to ask what fantasy owners here are doing with Ridley moving forward? Droppable in short bench leagues?

It’s 100% fine to ask questions like this. This is a fantasy football site so that’s appropriate no matter what Ridley is going through and there’s no disrespect in talking about the fantasy football impact. 

 

[Joe Bryant]

and to be fair @Joe Bryant....you are the one that started the Biles thread in the free for all forum asking people their thoughts.....and then you post this.....???.....

Not sure why that's ???.

I started the thread in the Free For All Forum this summer. https://forums.footballguys.com/topic/798553-simone-biles-withdraws-from-competition-thoughts/. It struck me that Biles was receiving both criticism and praise for withdrawing and when I see people on both sides of something, I often will ask the forum what they think. I wasn't trying to speculate on the specifics of what she was dealing with. Same as I was here for Ridley. 

I thought we were able to have a mostly good discussion in the Biles thread about mental health. You may differ.

And I'm sorry if I was confusing on Ridley. Mental health is obviously a huge topic and one to discuss in general. The Free For All forum is best for that. My point was I don't think it feels appropriate to speculate on the specific private area of the individual making guesses as to what is happening. Discussing mental health in general feels productive. Playing detective on the specific details feels more like TMZ. 

 

[Joe Bryant]

I was just going off what she said....she said she had a case of the twisties that all gymnasts get and have to work through...she was able to do so in 4 days...but you are right it's not fair to speculate about Ridley....maybe seeing Biles recover so quickly from her serious mental health issues will give him hope when he gets the help he needs...

Thank you. And that's for sure different when you're talking about what she actually said like that. 

 

[Joe Bryant]

All discussion of his situation aside, on a practical level, what are managers doing with him going forward. Cutting, holding? And for those who don’t have him, and thoughts on buying low? And if so, what would his managers be looking for in return for him?

Not to be crass, but I’m interested in hearing some theories on how people who are rostering him (or possibly looking to) are handling the situation on a practical level.

That's not crass in the least. For this Shark Pool forum, that's exactly what we do here in talking about when players will be on the field. The same way we do for Saquon Barkley or other players. 

To that end, my take is we just don't know. We have such little to go on from Ridley. Coaches, players and most of the press are rightly sensitive not to say things they don't know for sure. 

We saw something similar with Will Fuller this year when Brian Flores sounded very pessimistic and vague about how long Fuller would be out with a non physical issue. He was back quickly.

For Ridley, I would definitely keep him on my roster until we know more. 

 

[jm192]

Glad to hear he's taking time for himself to get in a good place.  That's the most important thing.  

Since it's a Fantasy Football board:  I feel compelled to at least touch on the FF side of this.  But don't want to minimize the importance of mental health.

As far as Ridley:  Hold.  In dynasty, I'd even be so bold as to try to buy.  

The other Falcons pass catchers not named Pitts/Patterson:  Avoid.  I started Gage last week out of desperation after the Ridley news.  Zero targets.  He may come back and catch 4 balls for 100 yards and a long score.  But you certainly can't trust him for FF at this point.

 

[JohnnyU]

I had surgery on my nose on Friday to fix a deviated septum.  Imagine having a broke nose and the worst cold of your life at the same time.  I went to work on Monday   Before you guys pile on about mental health being a different animal, that was suppose to be humorous. 

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I had surgery on my nose on Friday to fix a deviated septum.  Imagine having a broke nose and the worst cold of your life at the same time.  I went to work on Monday   Before you guys pile on about mental health being a different animal, that was suppose to be humorous. 

joking about mental health is funny. 

 

[fatness]

I had surgery on my nose on Friday to fix a deviated septum.  Imagine having a broke nose and the worst cold of your life at the same time.  I went to work on Monday   Before you guys pile on about mental health being a different animal, that was suppose to be humorous. 

Your timing is way off and you need better material.