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WR Chris Godwin, TB (1 Viewer)

wgoldsph said:
Has he really fallen to the golladay, Diggs, locket range if healthy?  He was a teir behind the MT, dhop range going into the season.

I would buy low, with the understanding that hammies do linger.
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Diggs has been a top 5 WR. By all accounts he and Ridley are this years’ Godwin

 
I feel like Godwin is going to have a huge next few weeks. If a losing team has him in redraft and you haven't been pressing them for a Godwin trade, you are a coward. 

 
rockaction said:
Really strong words for ff. That's Robert Ford talk. Even stronger considering it's a balky hammy we're talking about here. 
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I mean it all in the context of fantasy trash talk. I would never question the actual character of a person over fantasy football. I just have a crappy redraft team with Godwin and 2 guys came at me trying to guy cheap on him. I thought every team in the league should have been trying this. Godwin can be that good and his hype right now is at an all time low. 

 
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Ilov80s said:
I mean it all in the context of fantasy trash talk. I would never question the actual character of a person over fantasy football. I just have a crappy redraft team with Godwin and 2 guys came at me trying to guy cheap on him. I thought every team in the league should have been trying this. Godwin can be that good and his hype right now is at an all time low. 
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Oh, dude, I know. That's why I broke out Robert Ford. That was a movie. The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford. Great movie title. Memorable.

As for Godwin, I agree that he's a nice target to try and trade for.

I'm really in agreement, I was just kidding around. Hamstrings are also fickle was another point I was making. Who knows? There's risk there...

 
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rockaction said:
Oh, dude, I know. That's why I broke out Robert Ford. That was a movie. The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford. Great movie title. Memorable.

As for Godwin, I agree that he's a nice target to try and trade for.

I'm really in agreement, I was just kidding around. Hamstrings are also fickle was another point I was making. Who knows? There's risk there...
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I totally glossed past the Robert Ford coward part- great movie and reference. Who would you prefer rest of season, Evans or Godwin?

 
Ilov80s said:
I totally glossed past the Robert Ford coward part- great movie and reference. Who would you prefer rest of season, Evans or Godwin?
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I don't know, actually. Probably Godwin will have a better floor, Evans a better ceiling, as always. But Evans is going to get red zone touchdowns, though. Depends which you prefer. In full PPR the other night, Evans had a really quiet game and still pulled 15.30 points or something like that because of a one-yard touchdown catch.

 
rockaction said:
I don't know, actually. Probably Godwin will have a better floor, Evans a better ceiling, as always. But Evans is going to get red zone touchdowns, though. Depends which you prefer. In full PPR the other night, Evans had a really quiet game and still pulled 15.30 points or something like that because of a one-yard touchdown catch.
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I have been a big Evans guy but I feel like Brady + Arians is a perfect combo for Godwin. I have trouble thinking Mike Evans can score a 1 yard TD every other game. 

 
Ilov80s said:
I have been a big Evans guy but I feel like Brady + Arians is a perfect combo for Godwin. I have trouble thinking Mike Evans can score a 1 yard TD every other game. 
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Brady has already says he loves throwing to Evans, so there's that. That was back in the spring. I know to take things with a grain of salt in preseason, but that was the connection being talked about.

Arians has been great for Godwin, admittedly. Dirk Koetter ran Godwin as a little-used fourth or third behind DeSean Jackson and Evans and company. Arians came into town and declared Godwin sheriff. And thus it was.

 
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rockaction said:
Brady has already says he loves throwing to Evans, so there's that. That was back in the spring. I know to take things with a grain of salt in preseason, but that was the connection being talked about.

Arians has been great for Godwin, admittedly. Dirk Koetter ran Godwin as a little-used fourth or third behind DeSean Jackson and Evans and company. Arians came into town and declared Godwin sheriff. And thus it was.
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What else would Brady say? Also given what he had in NE, I am sure he is loving having Evans to throw to. I just think Godwin is more versatile and can do what Brady likes to do better. 

 
Ilov80s said:
I totally glossed past the Robert Ford coward part- great movie and reference. Who would you prefer rest of season, Evans or Godwin?
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Yes.

IDK either but if you have them you're starting them. So far my prediction that 20 TDs for Evans was in the realm of possibility, seems within the realm of possibility. We'd all take the under but 5 weeks in....

That said I think Godwin is going to eat, too. Looking forward to seeing them both in action together tomorrow. 

 
barackdhouse said:
Yes.

IDK either but if you have them you're starting them. So far my prediction that 20 TDs for Evans was in the realm of possibility, seems within the realm of possibility. We'd all take the under but 5 weeks in....

That said I think Godwin is going to eat, too. Looking forward to seeing them both in action together tomorrow. 
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Seems like the health factor has flipped. Godwin is playing and Evans is a GTD.

ETA- Nevermind, I must have misread the scroll on ESPN 

 
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Ilov80s said:
Seems like the health factor has flipped. Godwin is playing and Evans is a GTD.
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Wait what? Evans is GTD?

This sucks I have both and "have" to bench one (Ridley is my other WR we typically only start  2 WR) 

 
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Ilov80s said:
I swear I read that on the ESPN scroll last night 
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Thanks for the heads up. The guy didn’t even have a questionable designation next to his name on MFL when I set my lineup this morning.

Since you posted this I looked at practice reports and they do say Evans was limited on Friday while Godwin was full practice. I guess I need to set an alarm to remember to check his status later today.

 
This was Friday:

(RotoWire) Evans (ankle) will play in Sunday's game against the Packers, Tom Pelissero of NFL Network reports.

Analysis: While he never made it back to full practice participation, Evans doesn't have an injury designation for Week 6. He'll have a bit of added target competition this Sunday, with Chris Godwin cleared to play for the first time since Week 3.

 
He is a stud vet that they gave some rest to. He hasn't had any setbacks and has no injury designation. Anyone suggesting he is a GTD needs to provide a link/source.

 
I'd encouraging result from a game where they weren't truly tested on offense all game long. Evans suffered more, but a little bit disappointing seeing Gronk get those middle-field targets more than Godwin.

Hopefully he and Brady just need to find their rhythm together again. 

 
rockaction said:
Oh boy. There goes his redraft value with Antonio Brown signing. Awful news for Godwin GMs.
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Most likely but not for certain. Personally I think it drops him a good chunk amd have 2 weeks to try and trade him. Also have AB on my bench. I'm hoping brady turns into I believe 2012? Manning and just scores non stop. My gut tells me they are a win first team with a good defense and could care less about stats.

 
MASSHOLE said:
Explain this line of thinking
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If Antonio runs in the slot, the big piece of both Arians' and Brady's attention will go to Brown. When Brady doesn't see somebody open immediately, he tends to get rid of the ball in an act of self-preservation and chain moving. Arians is notorious for favoring his slot guys with intermediate targets. If Brown plays out wide, we saw in one game when Brady peppered him with fourteen targets in New England what he thought of him and Brown didn't even know the playbook. They were running basic routes and just letting it fly. Evans and Godwin are surely better than what New England had at the beginning of last year, but Tampa didn't recruit Big Chest to sit the bench.

This also nukes whatever value Cameron Brate had left, as their base 1-2 personnel is no longer, my friends. They're a three-wide team. Which also leads me to this: When they are two-wide, Brown and Evans likely see the snaps with Godwin coming off of the field.

 
RealReactions said:
Most likely but not for certain. Personally I think it drops him a good chunk amd have 2 weeks to try and trade him. Also have AB on my bench. I'm hoping brady turns into I believe 2012? Manning and just scores non stop. My gut tells me they are a win first team with a good defense and could care less about stats.
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They? Including AB? He's not a win first guy. He cares a lot about his stats.

 
Time will tell. I’m betting more on Godwin and against AB from both a mental health perspective and because we haven’t seen AB on the field in almost 2 years. 

 
I'm a big karma guy and don't ever wish for bad things for anyone.  That said, it wouldn't make me sad if he tripped on the stairs getting off the plane and he suffered non-life threatening but painful, season ending injuries.  Freaking bozo.  Raiders signed him when nobody else would touch him.  Gave him a ton of dough to be our guy.  Look how he treated us. Guy was a clown from the frozen feet to the helmet thing and his verbally and physically assaulting the owner.  Karma is a fickle ##### and I can't help but hope that she pays a visit to Brown and the Bucs.  

But I'm not bitter.  

 
Chris Godwin caught all nine of his targets for 88 yards and a touchdown in Tampa Bay's Week 7 win over the Raiders.

It was an encouraging performance after Godwin had mentioned earlier in the week that he isn't fully healthy since returning from injury. He tied Scotty Miller (6/109/1) for the team lead in targets, hauling in his only touchdown from four yards out to help jumpstart Tampa Bay's 21-0 run to close the final quarter. Godwin has notably out-targeted Mike Evans 29 to 12 in the four games the two have played together this year, recording 279 yards to Evans' 51 in those contests. Godwin will remain the team's WR1 (and be ranked as such) in Week 8 against the Giants.

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Chris Godwin (finger) was a full participant in Wednesday's walk-through practice.

That's great news, but it doesn't tell us much of anything regarding his status for Week 9 because Wednesday's session didn't involve any pass-catching. Coach Bruce Arians said we likely won't know until Friday whether Godwin can catch well enough on his broken index finger to play Sunday.

SOURCE: Jenna Laine on Twitter

Nov 4, 2020, 1:20 PM ET
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Chris Godwin (finger) remained "limited" in Thursday's practice.

Godwin was deemed a "full" participant for Wednesday's walk-through, but he ended up getting a different designation on the injury report. Godwin is probably going to suit up against the Saints, but his status cannot be taken for granted until he gets in a "full" practice. Hopefully Friday brings clarity. With his health a question mark and Antonio Brown about to make his Bucs debut, Godwin will be a low-end WR2 if he plays against New Orleans. 

Nov 6, 2020, 12:37 AM ET
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Faust said:
Chris Godwin (finger) remained "limited" in Thursday's practice.

Godwin was deemed a "full" participant for Wednesday's walk-through, but he ended up getting a different designation on the injury report. Godwin is probably going to suit up against the Saints, but his status cannot be taken for granted until he gets in a "full" practice. Hopefully Friday brings clarity. With his health a question mark and Antonio Brown about to make his Bucs debut, Godwin will be a low-end WR2 if he plays against New Orleans. 

Nov 6, 2020, 12:37 AM ET
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There were no passing drills in Wednesday's practice, so we already knew the full participant label was meaningless.

 
BobbyLayne said:
There were no passing drills in Wednesday's practice, so we already knew the full participant label was meaningless.
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Read on Gene Bramel's injury update that Godwin's hand was actually in a cast as of yesterday.

Don't see how this guy can catch passes this weekend. Would be a shocker to me if he's active unless he has a full practice today.

 
kyoun1e said:
Read on Gene Bramel's injury update that Godwin's hand was actually in a cast as of yesterday.

Don't see how this guy can catch passes this weekend. Would be a shocker to me if he's active unless he has a full practice today.
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Good info, thanks. I already had him on the bench. Not expecting a WR with a fractured index finger to be seeing a lot of targets even if he is active.

 
BobbyLayne said:
There were no passing drills in Wednesday's practice, so we already knew the full participant label was meaningless.
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Technically "full participant" means the team believes the player would have participated fully regardless of the practice load, not necessarily that they only participated fully in what they were asked to do. 

 
ATB said:
Technically "full participant" means the team believes the player would have participated fully regardless of the practice load, not necessarily that they only participated fully in what they were asked to do. 
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Maybe. Seems reasonable.

:shrug:

Words are chosen for specific meaning, and these are the words from the NFL Operations Manual on what Full Participant means:

Full Participation: means 100 percent of a player's normal repetitions. In general, this category should be used for players who missed or could not complete the prior game due to injury, but have returned to participate fully in practice the following week.

 
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Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:
Bruce Arians on Chris Godwin's Progress: "We know what he brings. We'll see how sore it is tomorrow. He caught the ball fine...I would anticipate him probably playing." -Greg Auman on Twitter.
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the last update i read was something to the tune of "we don't know if he can catch," which i think was Wednesday, so this is great news. Was this after yesterday's practice or fresh news today?

edit: I found it. it was today. a second quote from Auman on his Twitter:

Arians said Chris Godwin has been cleared to play Sunday vs. Saints, so it's a matter of pain tolerance with his left index finger. Said he isn't worried about toughness and expects Godwin to be able to play.
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