WR DeAndre Hopkins, TEN (2 Viewers)

[-OZ-]

WR25ish is fine for me I guess. I would argue though that this makes them more likely to give Tannehill a leash, not less. He'll almost certainly get all the first team reps to start, but if Levis looks as though he's ahead of the curve early on, and Tannehill struggles, well, they didn't buy 2 years of Hopkins to hedge through a retool.

RT is underrated, he absolutely can lead a team as far as they can reasonably go. He won’t take over like the top guys but he’s fully in the “Good enough” tier.

Tannehill has arguably been the most underrated QB of the last decade. He's never been less than an average starter and has had stretches of elite play.

Idk. Hes average at best. But this helps him obviously

He’s not great in FF but in real life he’s among the Carr, Geno, Goff, cousins Tier. “Good enough” starter. Replaceable but able to get the job done.
I don’t know if they’ll ever win the SB with him which kinda sucks.

 

[need2know]

WR25ish is fine for me I guess. I would argue though that this makes them more likely to give Tannehill a leash, not less. He'll almost certainly get all the first team reps to start, but if Levis looks as though he's ahead of the curve early on, and Tannehill struggles, well, they didn't buy 2 years of Hopkins to hedge through a retool.

RT is underrated, he absolutely can lead a team as far as they can reasonably go. He won’t take over like the top guys but he’s fully in the “Good enough” tier.

Tannehill has arguably been the most underrated QB of the last decade. He's never been less than an average starter and has had stretches of elite play.

Idk. Hes average at best. But this helps him obviously

He’s not great in FF but in real life he’s among the Carr, Geno, Goff, cousins Tier. “Good enough” starter. Replaceable but able to get the job done.
I don’t know if they’ll ever win the SB with him which kinda sucks.

Agree with that

 

[Bri]

Tennessee .. not sure their cap situation but that wr room. One more time for Tannehill

As a shareholder I hate it but as a football fan and a vrabel backer I would love it.

curious about the oline. Tannehill struggled last year, I didn’t track it closely but I’m pretty sure fans were frustrated. Have to believe that injury played a part for Tannehill specifically.

With Hop, Burks, Phillips and NWI, okonkwo and hurst(?), Henry and Spears, seems like a competitive group.

Excited for Tennessee. Would have been much more excited for his ff output in KC but this is good news for fans imo.

Their line was bought from Walmart on sale.

 

[travdogg]

WR25ish is fine for me I guess. I would argue though that this makes them more likely to give Tannehill a leash, not less. He'll almost certainly get all the first team reps to start, but if Levis looks as though he's ahead of the curve early on, and Tannehill struggles, well, they didn't buy 2 years of Hopkins to hedge through a retool.

RT is underrated, he absolutely can lead a team as far as they can reasonably go. He won’t take over like the top guys but he’s fully in the “Good enough” tier.

Tannehill has arguably been the most underrated QB of the last decade. He's never been less than an average starter and has had stretches of elite play.

Idk. Hes average at best. But this helps him obviously

He’s not great in FF but in real life he’s among the Carr, Geno, Goff, cousins Tier. “Good enough” starter. Replaceable but able to get the job done.
I don’t know if they’ll ever win the SB with him which kinda sucks.

To be honest, I actually think that is underselling Tannehill, he's been a lot better than those guys. I think he's more in the Dak/Cousins tier. Tannehill has been a legit asset for most of his Titans run, especially as we saw how they have looked without him.

 

[-OZ-]

Tennessee .. not sure their cap situation but that wr room. One more time for Tannehill

As a shareholder I hate it but as a football fan and a vrabel backer I would love it.

curious about the oline. Tannehill struggled last year, I didn’t track it closely but I’m pretty sure fans were frustrated. Have to believe that injury played a part for Tannehill specifically.

With Hop, Burks, Phillips and NWI, okonkwo and hurst(?), Henry and Spears, seems like a competitive group.

Excited for Tennessee. Would have been much more excited for his ff output in KC but this is good news for fans imo.

Their line was bought from Walmart on sale.

Walmart seems high praise. Kmart or Ollie’s

 

[-OZ-]

WR25ish is fine for me I guess. I would argue though that this makes them more likely to give Tannehill a leash, not less. He'll almost certainly get all the first team reps to start, but if Levis looks as though he's ahead of the curve early on, and Tannehill struggles, well, they didn't buy 2 years of Hopkins to hedge through a retool.

RT is underrated, he absolutely can lead a team as far as they can reasonably go. He won’t take over like the top guys but he’s fully in the “Good enough” tier.

Tannehill has arguably been the most underrated QB of the last decade. He's never been less than an average starter and has had stretches of elite play.

Idk. Hes average at best. But this helps him obviously

He’s not great in FF but in real life he’s among the Carr, Geno, Goff, cousins Tier. “Good enough” starter. Replaceable but able to get the job done.
I don’t know if they’ll ever win the SB with him which kinda sucks.

To be honest, I actually think that is underselling Tannehill, he's been a lot better than those guys. I think he's more in the Dak/Cousins tier. Tannehill has been a legit asset for most of his Titans run, especially as we saw how they have looked without him.

Maybe but I think you’re underrating Carr at least. I think the saints win the south with him and are just behind the eagles and 49ers in the conference.

 

[Faust]

2023 Fantasy Football Player Profile: What does new Titans WR DeAndre Hopkins offer?

 

[Faust]

DeAndre Hopkins to reportedly sign with Titans; where should he go in fantasy drafts?

 

[Faust]

Jeff Haseley @JeffHaseley

Can Hopkins get 70 recs, 1,000 yds, and 11 touchdowns in Tennessee? That's A.J. Brown's best year there. With Ryan Tannehill, with Derrick Henry. I say yes. Maybe not double-digit scores but everything else.

https://twitter.com/jeffhaseley/status/1680643218684116993?s=21

 

[MCFootball123]

Follow the money always. Also, D-Hop wouldn't have gone to Tenn if he didn't believe he is going to be the main dude. And looking around that WR room - it's obvious he will be the first and second option. Could easily see 80 catches 1000+ and 8-10 TD's

 

[Anarchy99]

Follow the money always. Also, D-Hop wouldn't have gone to Tenn if he didn't believe he is going to be the main dude. And looking around that WR room - it's obvious he will be the first and second option. Could easily see 80 catches 1000+ and 8-10 TD's

IMO, Hopkins went to the team that offered him the most money. From what I have seen, the Titans offered him way more than anyone else. The NE offer is said to have been much lower (and likely much more incentive driven). Any reasoning or rationale other than that likely wasn't much of a consideration. He should still be the #1 WR in TEN . . . but I don't think they are going to call his number every play and ignore everyone else. Looking at the #1 WR each season with Tannehill:

- Hartline - 74-1083-1
- Hartline - 76-1016-4
- Wallace - 67-862-10
- Landry - 110-1157-4
- Landry - 94-1136-4
- Landry - 112-987-9
- Amendola - 59-575-1
- Brown - 52-1051-8
- Brown - 70-1075-11
- Brown - 63-869-5
- Woods - 53-527-2

The issue I see for Hopkins is the Titans with Tannehill have ranked 31-30-25-30 in passing attempts. I am not sure if they will change their offensive philosophy with Hopkins in the fold. The Cardinals last year had 664 passing attempts. The Titans had 456. That can't be looked at as a good thing for Hopkins.

 

[FantasyMC]

That can't be looked at as a good thing for Hopkins.

Or for Burks, who people think that this signing is going to help him

 

[MCFootball123]

Titans WR1 history, only AJ Brown is in Hopkins world. The rest of those numbers mean very little. Money+Talent = targets

Burks will likely work quite a bit out of the slot. Just of note, Tannehill was 10th in passer rating and 5th in yards per attempt last year before getting hurt at the end of the year. If the Titans throw it 500+ times this year which I think they will...Hopkins should get 100 of those.

I think my point is I don't like him enough at the high end of his ADP, but if he falls a little bit I am probably taking him as things stand.

 

[Faust]

7 ways DeAndre Hopkins improves the Titans’ offense

 

[Anarchy99]

Titans WR1 history, only AJ Brown is in Hopkins world. The rest of those numbers mean very little. Money+Talent = targets

Burks will likely work quite a bit out of the slot. Just of note, Tannehill was 10th in passer rating and 5th in yards per attempt last year before getting hurt at the end of the year. If the Titans throw it 500+ times this year which I think they will...Hopkins should get 100 of those.

I think my point is I don't like him enough at the high end of his ADP, but if he falls a little bit I am probably taking him as things stand.

Welp, Hopkins last year had just about 100 targets in Arizona and ended up with 64-717-3 and in yearend rankings was WR47. I get it, Arizona is not Tennessee. This year isn't last year, Henry isn't Conner, etc. According to FantasyPros (before Hopkins even was signed anywhere), his ADP was WR19. Who knows what will happen with his ADP now that he actually found a home. WR19 is going to be too rich for my blood. I already saw some commentary and feedback that he will probably be a run of the mill fantasy WR3 this year. That's probably where I would slot him. Since I hold fantasy grudges, I probably won't draft him (I have selected the #1 WR from TEN for the past 5 years . . . apparently, I didn't learn). I also have drafted Hopkins many times (so I am not adverse to rostering him). It really depends on what it will take to acquire him and at what point in any individual draft if he is still on the board. 80-1000 isn't an unreasonable projection (although I think 8-10 TD is probably too high).

 

[Faust]

James Palmer @JamesPalmerTV
-a few thoughts on DeAndre Hopkins and landing with the #Titans

- Hopkins is a volume WR. Playing in Nashville allows him to be exactly that. - Hop has thrived his entire career no matter the QB. And he’s played with a lot of them. He makes their lives easier.- Mike Vrabel has a solid amount of knowledge on Hopkins from their time together in Houston. He knows how Hop ticks and that’s actually beneficial.

https://twitter.com/jamespalmertv/status/1680959885729579008?s=21

 

[Insein]

DeAndre will get his. Solid value if people are discounting him. Currently going in the 5th in 12 team PPR on FFdraft ADP.

This also makes Tenn better as a whole. Henry will not see as many stacked boxes with 2 solid outside WRs.

 

[JoeKappBudGrant]

Titans WR1 history, only AJ Brown is in Hopkins world. The rest of those numbers mean very little. Money+Talent = targets

Burks will likely work quite a bit out of the slot. Just of note, Tannehill was 10th in passer rating and 5th in yards per attempt last year before getting hurt at the end of the year. If the Titans throw it 500+ times this year which I think they will...Hopkins should get 100 of those.

I think my point is I don't like him enough at the high end of his ADP, but if he falls a little bit I am probably taking him as things stand.

Welp, Hopkins last year had just about 100 targets in Arizona and ended up with 64-717-3 and in yearend rankings was WR47. I get it, Arizona is not Tennessee. This year isn't last year, Henry isn't Conner, etc. According to FantasyPros (before Hopkins even was signed anywhere), his ADP was WR19. Who knows what will happen with his ADP now that he actually found a home. WR19 is going to be too rich for my blood. I already saw some commentary and feedback that he will probably be a run of the mill fantasy WR3 this year. That's probably where I would slot him. Since I hold fantasy grudges, I probably won't draft him (I have selected the #1 WR from TEN for the past 5 years . . . apparently, I didn't learn). I also have drafted Hopkins many times (so I am not adverse to rostering him). It really depends on what it will take to acquire him and at what point in any individual draft if he is still on the board. 80-1000 isn't an unreasonable projection (although I think 8-10 TD is probably too high).

I have him at 120 targets for 80 catches, 1,000 yards and 7 TD's.

 

[Terpman22]

DeAndre will get his. Solid value if people are discounting him. Currently going in the 5th in 12 team PPR on FFdraft ADP.

This also makes Tenn better as a whole. Henry will not see as many stacked boxes with 2 solid outside WRs.

It's hard to understand "what Tennesee is doing" in the grand scheme of things. Does this Hopkins signing "put them over the top?" I don't think anyone here would argue that. They got a new QB, that probably won't play this year, they have cut *a lot of people* and most likely Henry and Hopkins both won't be back next year. Weird, inconsistent moves overall for me.

 

[Insein]

DeAndre will get his. Solid value if people are discounting him. Currently going in the 5th in 12 team PPR on FFdraft ADP.

This also makes Tenn better as a whole. Henry will not see as many stacked boxes with 2 solid outside WRs.

It's hard to understand "what Tennesee is doing" in the grand scheme of things. Does this Hopkins signing "put them over the top?" I don't think anyone here would argue that. They got a new QB, that probably won't play this year, they have cut *a lot of people* and most likely Henry and Hopkins both won't be back next year. Weird, inconsistent moves overall for me.

Yea their future is not set but for one year, I think they have value in fantasy.

 

[Bri]

DeAndre will get his. Solid value if people are discounting him. Currently going in the 5th in 12 team PPR on FFdraft ADP.

This also makes Tenn better as a whole. Henry will not see as many stacked boxes with 2 solid outside WRs.

It's hard to understand "what Tennesee is doing" in the grand scheme of things. Does this Hopkins signing "put them over the top?" I don't think anyone here would argue that. They got a new QB, that probably won't play this year, they have cut *a lot of people* and most likely Henry and Hopkins both won't be back next year. Weird, inconsistent moves overall for me.

They're doing the same thing the Falcons did. They will have like 80-90 mil free next year...well less now with Hopkins

 

[-OZ-]

DeAndre will get his. Solid value if people are discounting him. Currently going in the 5th in 12 team PPR on FFdraft ADP.

This also makes Tenn better as a whole. Henry will not see as many stacked boxes with 2 solid outside WRs.

It's hard to understand "what Tennesee is doing" in the grand scheme of things. Does this Hopkins signing "put them over the top?" I don't think anyone here would argue that. They got a new QB, that probably won't play this year, they have cut *a lot of people* and most likely Henry and Hopkins both won't be back next year. Weird, inconsistent moves overall for me.

They're doing the same thing the Falcons did. They will have like 80-90 mil free next year...well less now with Hopkins

Yep
Seems to me they’re contending for the division. Who knows what happens in the playoffs but with what we hope to be a good duo at WR, one of the most dominant RBs, a good defense and very good coach, they’re very much in it IF the O line performs.

 

[Buckna]

DeAndre will get his. Solid value if people are discounting him. Currently going in the 5th in 12 team PPR on FFdraft ADP.

This also makes Tenn better as a whole. Henry will not see as many stacked boxes with 2 solid outside WRs.

It's hard to understand "what Tennesee is doing" in the grand scheme of things. Does this Hopkins signing "put them over the top?" I don't think anyone here would argue that. They got a new QB, that probably won't play this year, they have cut *a lot of people* and most likely Henry and Hopkins both won't be back next year. Weird, inconsistent moves overall for me.

They're doing the same thing the Falcons did. They will have like 80-90 mil free next year...well less now with Hopkins

Yep
Seems to me they’re contending for the division. Who knows what happens in the playoffs but with what we hope to be a good duo at WR, one of the most dominant RBs, a good defense and very good coach, they’re very much in it IF the O line performs.

Easy to forget TENN started 7-3 last year, then injuries derailed them. AFC South is improved on paper but HOU & Indy still have a long way to go, and JAX is always a perennial underachiever despite signs they may finally be doing something right.

 

[Bri]

DeAndre will get his. Solid value if people are discounting him. Currently going in the 5th in 12 team PPR on FFdraft ADP.

This also makes Tenn better as a whole. Henry will not see as many stacked boxes with 2 solid outside WRs.

It's hard to understand "what Tennesee is doing" in the grand scheme of things. Does this Hopkins signing "put them over the top?" I don't think anyone here would argue that. They got a new QB, that probably won't play this year, they have cut *a lot of people* and most likely Henry and Hopkins both won't be back next year. Weird, inconsistent moves overall for me.

They're doing the same thing the Falcons did. They will have like 80-90 mil free next year...well less now with Hopkins

Yep
Seems to me they’re contending for the division. Who knows what happens in the playoffs but with what we hope to be a good duo at WR, one of the most dominant RBs, a good defense and very good coach, they’re very much in it IF the O line performs.

Easy to forget TENN started 7-3 last year, then injuries derailed them. AFC South is improved on paper but HOU & Indy still have a long way to go, and JAX is always a perennial underachiever despite signs they may finally be doing something right.

Texans were garbage and surely why they made so many changes. I don't expect them to be much yet but soon. For now, Demeco probably steals some games with defense.

The Colts always look so dysfunctional or disorganized without Luck or Peyton and it's weird. It's good their Ds heart n soul's back has healed up. He's a game changer.

The Jags benefitted from unknowns last year. There's tape on them now. They've got impressive youth on D but curiously still a castoff home on offense.

I think the Titans have a culture prob and it happened around Julio. They never sat with minor injuries and they have ever since he came. Record setting games missed two years in a row. They got a lot of new medical staff so no idea whose to blame but there's a lot of "tough it out" injuries that they never play through anymore.

 

[menobrown]

Just dawned on me that old school Houston sports fans likely get "treated" to Hopkins facing them wearing the Oilers throwbacks this upcoming season.

 

[Big Nate]

Titans WR1 history, only AJ Brown is in Hopkins world. The rest of those numbers mean very little. Money+Talent = targets

Burks will likely work quite a bit out of the slot. Just of note, Tannehill was 10th in passer rating and 5th in yards per attempt last year before getting hurt at the end of the year. If the Titans throw it 500+ times this year which I think they will...Hopkins should get 100 of those.

I think my point is I don't like him enough at the high end of his ADP, but if he falls a little bit I am probably taking him as things stand.

Welp, Hopkins last year had just about 100 targets in Arizona and ended up with 64-717-3 and in yearend rankings was WR47. I get it, Arizona is not Tennessee. This year isn't last year, Henry isn't Conner, etc. According to FantasyPros (before Hopkins even was signed anywhere), his ADP was WR19. Who knows what will happen with his ADP now that he actually found a home. WR19 is going to be too rich for my blood. I already saw some commentary and feedback that he will probably be a run of the mill fantasy WR3 this year. That's probably where I would slot him. Since I hold fantasy grudges, I probably won't draft him (I have selected the #1 WR from TEN for the past 5 years . . . apparently, I didn't learn). I also have drafted Hopkins many times (so I am not adverse to rostering him). It really depends on what it will take to acquire him and at what point in any individual draft if he is still on the board. 80-1000 isn't an unreasonable projection (although I think 8-10 TD is probably too high).

I have him at 120 targets for 80 catches, 1,000 yards and 7 TD's.

I think 120 is the ceiling but around 1000 yards and maybe 7 TDs is about right. TEN is still going to be a run first offense. Their HC wants to control the ball and limit mistakes. If Tanny can get back to 2020 Tanny and throw 30TDs that is the ceiling of this offense.

My sneaky dart throw is Burks with 8 or maybe 10 TDs this year with teams having to focus on Henry and Hopkins. I'm going out to try to get Burks wherever I can now. I think Burks will be just behind Hopkins in targets (maybe 90-100 targets) but could also have 1000 yards and 8-9 TDs.

 

[Anarchy99]

Titans WR1 history, only AJ Brown is in Hopkins world. The rest of those numbers mean very little. Money+Talent = targets

Burks will likely work quite a bit out of the slot. Just of note, Tannehill was 10th in passer rating and 5th in yards per attempt last year before getting hurt at the end of the year. If the Titans throw it 500+ times this year which I think they will...Hopkins should get 100 of those.

I think my point is I don't like him enough at the high end of his ADP, but if he falls a little bit I am probably taking him as things stand.

Welp, Hopkins last year had just about 100 targets in Arizona and ended up with 64-717-3 and in yearend rankings was WR47. I get it, Arizona is not Tennessee. This year isn't last year, Henry isn't Conner, etc. According to FantasyPros (before Hopkins even was signed anywhere), his ADP was WR19. Who knows what will happen with his ADP now that he actually found a home. WR19 is going to be too rich for my blood. I already saw some commentary and feedback that he will probably be a run of the mill fantasy WR3 this year. That's probably where I would slot him. Since I hold fantasy grudges, I probably won't draft him (I have selected the #1 WR from TEN for the past 5 years . . . apparently, I didn't learn). I also have drafted Hopkins many times (so I am not adverse to rostering him). It really depends on what it will take to acquire him and at what point in any individual draft if he is still on the board. 80-1000 isn't an unreasonable projection (although I think 8-10 TD is probably too high).

I have him at 120 targets for 80 catches, 1,000 yards and 7 TD's.

I think 120 is the ceiling but around 1000 yards and maybe 7 TDs is about right. TEN is still going to be a run first offense. Their HC wants to control the ball and limit mistakes. If Tanny can get back to 2020 Tanny and throw 30TDs that is the ceiling of this offense.

My sneaky dart throw is Burks with 8 or maybe 10 TDs this year with teams having to focus on Henry and Hopkins. I'm going out to try to get Burks wherever I can now. I think Burks will be just behind Hopkins in targets (maybe 90-100 targets) but could also have 1000 yards and 8-9 TDs.

Other than the year Henry went absolutely crazy, the Titans with Tannehill have struggled to get one player to 1,000 receiving yards, let alone two. Last season, the team high from a receiver was 500 receiving yards and the high in receiving TD was 4 (it was 5 the season before). Sure, it's nice to think that the Titans could have two guys with 100-125 targets and each with 1K and 6-8 TD, but they haven't really showed that they can sustain that.

 

[Big Nate]

Titans WR1 history, only AJ Brown is in Hopkins world. The rest of those numbers mean very little. Money+Talent = targets

Burks will likely work quite a bit out of the slot. Just of note, Tannehill was 10th in passer rating and 5th in yards per attempt last year before getting hurt at the end of the year. If the Titans throw it 500+ times this year which I think they will...Hopkins should get 100 of those.

I think my point is I don't like him enough at the high end of his ADP, but if he falls a little bit I am probably taking him as things stand.

Welp, Hopkins last year had just about 100 targets in Arizona and ended up with 64-717-3 and in yearend rankings was WR47. I get it, Arizona is not Tennessee. This year isn't last year, Henry isn't Conner, etc. According to FantasyPros (before Hopkins even was signed anywhere), his ADP was WR19. Who knows what will happen with his ADP now that he actually found a home. WR19 is going to be too rich for my blood. I already saw some commentary and feedback that he will probably be a run of the mill fantasy WR3 this year. That's probably where I would slot him. Since I hold fantasy grudges, I probably won't draft him (I have selected the #1 WR from TEN for the past 5 years . . . apparently, I didn't learn). I also have drafted Hopkins many times (so I am not adverse to rostering him). It really depends on what it will take to acquire him and at what point in any individual draft if he is still on the board. 80-1000 isn't an unreasonable projection (although I think 8-10 TD is probably too high).

I have him at 120 targets for 80 catches, 1,000 yards and 7 TD's.

I think 120 is the ceiling but around 1000 yards and maybe 7 TDs is about right. TEN is still going to be a run first offense. Their HC wants to control the ball and limit mistakes. If Tanny can get back to 2020 Tanny and throw 30TDs that is the ceiling of this offense.

My sneaky dart throw is Burks with 8 or maybe 10 TDs this year with teams having to focus on Henry and Hopkins. I'm going out to try to get Burks wherever I can now. I think Burks will be just behind Hopkins in targets (maybe 90-100 targets) but could also have 1000 yards and 8-9 TDs.

Other than the year Henry went absolutely crazy, the Titans with Tannehill have struggled to get one player to 1,000 receiving yards, let alone two. Last season, the team high from a receiver was 500 receiving yards and the high in receiving TD was 4 (it was 5 the season before). Sure, it's nice to think that the Titans could have two guys with 100-125 targets and each with 1K and 6-8 TD, but they haven't really showed that they can sustain that.

I never said 2 guys with 100-125 targets. Your point stands that this offense hasn't been great for WRs but they didn't have anyone to throw the ball to. Burks wasn't healthy last year and maybe this will be an issue going forward but he has transformed his health this year as last year was a wake up call.

Hopkins could get 110 targets and right around 1000 yards. Burks could get 900-950 yards and maybe lead the team in TDs with 8. Again this is assuming health. Like I said about both Hopkins and Burks will likely be around low end WR2 or high end WR3. It's all in what I wrote, careful with the interpretation.

 

[Insein]

Titans WR1 history, only AJ Brown is in Hopkins world. The rest of those numbers mean very little. Money+Talent = targets

Burks will likely work quite a bit out of the slot. Just of note, Tannehill was 10th in passer rating and 5th in yards per attempt last year before getting hurt at the end of the year. If the Titans throw it 500+ times this year which I think they will...Hopkins should get 100 of those.

I think my point is I don't like him enough at the high end of his ADP, but if he falls a little bit I am probably taking him as things stand.

Welp, Hopkins last year had just about 100 targets in Arizona and ended up with 64-717-3 and in yearend rankings was WR47. I get it, Arizona is not Tennessee. This year isn't last year, Henry isn't Conner, etc. According to FantasyPros (before Hopkins even was signed anywhere), his ADP was WR19. Who knows what will happen with his ADP now that he actually found a home. WR19 is going to be too rich for my blood. I already saw some commentary and feedback that he will probably be a run of the mill fantasy WR3 this year. That's probably where I would slot him. Since I hold fantasy grudges, I probably won't draft him (I have selected the #1 WR from TEN for the past 5 years . . . apparently, I didn't learn). I also have drafted Hopkins many times (so I am not adverse to rostering him). It really depends on what it will take to acquire him and at what point in any individual draft if he is still on the board. 80-1000 isn't an unreasonable projection (although I think 8-10 TD is probably too high).

I have him at 120 targets for 80 catches, 1,000 yards and 7 TD's.

I think 120 is the ceiling but around 1000 yards and maybe 7 TDs is about right. TEN is still going to be a run first offense. Their HC wants to control the ball and limit mistakes. If Tanny can get back to 2020 Tanny and throw 30TDs that is the ceiling of this offense.

My sneaky dart throw is Burks with 8 or maybe 10 TDs this year with teams having to focus on Henry and Hopkins. I'm going out to try to get Burks wherever I can now. I think Burks will be just behind Hopkins in targets (maybe 90-100 targets) but could also have 1000 yards and 8-9 TDs.

Other than the year Henry went absolutely crazy, the Titans with Tannehill have struggled to get one player to 1,000 receiving yards, let alone two. Last season, the team high from a receiver was 500 receiving yards and the high in receiving TD was 4 (it was 5 the season before). Sure, it's nice to think that the Titans could have two guys with 100-125 targets and each with 1K and 6-8 TD, but they haven't really showed that they can sustain that.

They've also never had 2 guys good together at the same time. They had Aj Brown for a bit and then Treylon showed flashes last year before getting knocked out in Philly. Good WRs make a QBs job easier. But as always it comes down to the OL.

 

[Anarchy99]

They've also never had 2 guys good together at the same time. They had Aj Brown for a bit and then Treylon showed flashes last year before getting knocked out in Philly. Good WRs make a QBs job easier. But as always it comes down to the OL.

Brown and Davis were good at the same time the year Henry went nuts. They combined for 2K yard and 16 TD. It's possible, but lots of things have to go right . . . health, the OL, howmuch Henry has left in the tank, how good the defense is, what the score of the game is, etc.

 

[JoeKappBudGrant]

They've also never had 2 guys good together at the same time. They had Aj Brown for a bit and then Treylon showed flashes last year before getting knocked out in Philly. Good WRs make a QBs job easier. But as always it comes down to the OL.

Brown and Davis were good at the same time the year Henry went nuts. They combined for 2K yard and 16 TD. It's possible, but lots of things have to go right . . . health, the OL, howmuch Henry has left in the tank, how good the defense is, what the score of the game is, etc.

Brown averaged 7.5 targets and Davis 6.5. They both missed two games. The year Henry got hurt, Brown played 6 games with him and 6 games without him. His target were 52 with and 51 without, however he averaged 17 points with Henry and 12.5 without him. In Henry's big year the three times he rushed for over 200 yards, Brown averaged 26 points. If Hopkins stays healthy, he should average 7 targets a game.

 

[Anarchy99]

They've also never had 2 guys good together at the same time. They had Aj Brown for a bit and then Treylon showed flashes last year before getting knocked out in Philly. Good WRs make a QBs job easier. But as always it comes down to the OL.

Brown and Davis were good at the same time the year Henry went nuts. They combined for 2K yard and 16 TD. It's possible, but lots of things have to go right . . . health, the OL, howmuch Henry has left in the tank, how good the defense is, what the score of the game is, etc.

Brown averaged 7.5 targets and Davis 6.5. They both missed two games. The year Henry got hurt, Brown played 6 games with him and 6 games without him. His target were 52 with and 51 without, however he averaged 17 points with Henry and 12.5 without him. In Henry's big year the three times he rushed for over 200 yards, Brown averaged 26 points. If Hopkins stays healthy, he should average 7 targets a game.

I think we are all sort of in a similar bandwidth. Not sure how many games a 31-year-old would be expected to play. I'll pick 14 (people can pick a different number as they see fit). At 7 targets a game, that's 98 targets. Bump that up to 8 and that becomes 112. If we settle in on 7.5, that's 105. His career catch percentage is 62.4%. Again, people can use whatever they want to come up with a projection. I'll go with 65%. His YPR in ARI was 12.2. I'll pick 12.5. His TD% has been 8.3%.

105 * .624 = 66
66 * 12.5 = 825
66 * .083 = 5.5 TD

Maybe that's too low, but that's the methodology I would use to come up with a projection.

 

[JoeKappBudGrant]

They've also never had 2 guys good together at the same time. They had Aj Brown for a bit and then Treylon showed flashes last year before getting knocked out in Philly. Good WRs make a QBs job easier. But as always it comes down to the OL.

Brown and Davis were good at the same time the year Henry went nuts. They combined for 2K yard and 16 TD. It's possible, but lots of things have to go right . . . health, the OL, howmuch Henry has left in the tank, how good the defense is, what the score of the game is, etc.

Brown averaged 7.5 targets and Davis 6.5. They both missed two games. The year Henry got hurt, Brown played 6 games with him and 6 games without him. His target were 52 with and 51 without, however he averaged 17 points with Henry and 12.5 without him. In Henry's big year the three times he rushed for over 200 yards, Brown averaged 26 points. If Hopkins stays healthy, he should average 7 targets a game.

I think we are all sort of in a similar bandwidth. Not sure how many games a 31-year-old would be expected to play. I'll pick 14 (people can pick a different number as they see fit). At 7 targets a game, that's 98 targets. Bump that up to 8 and that becomes 112. If we settle in on 7.5, that's 105. His career catch percentage is 62.4%. Again, people can use whatever they want to come up with a projection. I'll go with 65%. His YPR in ARI was 12.2. I'll pick 12.5. His TD% has been 8.3%.

105 * .624 = 66
66 * 12.5 = 825
66 * .083 = 5.5 TD

Maybe that's too low, but that's the methodology I would use to come up with a projection.

2021 was the only year Hopkins missed more than 1 game with an actual injury. His catch rate the last two years was exactly 2/3. The prior 3 years it was close to 70%. I know he is 31 now, so the chance of injury increases. I agree with your last two projections, I think he will have 1 more catch a game than you.

 

[Anarchy99]

2021 was the only year Hopkins missed more than 1 game with an actual injury. His catch rate the last two years was exactly 2/3. The prior 3 years it was close to 70%. I know he is 31 now, so the chance of injury increases. I agree with your last two projections, I think he will have 1 more catch a game than you.

My numbers would have ranked DH in the WR28-30 last year. With another 10 more points, he would have been around WR25. FBG's ADP report has Hopkins going as WR19. At present, I would be hard pressed to want to draft him in the Top 20 . . . and there will probably be people out there based on name recognition that will grab him earlier than that. If he started falling, I would be interested, but probably not until he got into the WR30's.

 

[Big Nate]

I have some thoughts on trying to project passing targets. Last 3 years TEN has passed about 480, 540, and 450 (give or take). Last year was really bad with Tanny getting hurt and Willis literally not able to throw the ball. TEN still is a run first team so I think 540 is likely a bit high and 450 is a bit low. So lets say they throw about 500 times, that breaks down to something like:

Hopkins: 115 (generous). I believe he has the talent still to get 130-140 I just don't see it in this offense.
Burks: 95
Chig: 65
NWI: 55
Phillips: 50
RBs: 55 (maybe...)
The rest about 55.

Thoughts on that breakdown? For those that follow analysts that do team target breakdowns and projections I would be curious to see where they have things.

Last thought: How upset will Hopkins be if he only gets 115 targets on the year (assuming he can stay healthy).

 

[Anarchy99]

I have some thoughts on trying to project passing targets. Last 3 years TEN has passed about 480, 540, and 450 (give or take). Last year was really bad with Tanny getting hurt and Willis literally not able to throw the ball. TEN still is a run first team so I think 540 is likely a bit high and 450 is a bit low. So lets say they throw about 500 times, that breaks down to something like:

Hopkins: 115 (generous). I believe he has the talent still to get 130-140 I just don't see it in this offense.
Burks: 95
Chig: 65
NWI: 55
Phillips: 50
RBs: 55 (maybe...)
The rest about 55.

Thoughts on that breakdown? For those that follow analysts that do team target breakdowns and projections I would be curious to see where they have things.

Last thought: How upset will Hopkins be if he only gets 115 targets on the year (assuming he can stay healthy).

Mike Clay at ESPN has the TEN receiving pie as follows . . .

Hopkins - 125-86-989-4
Burks - 94-58-818-4
NWI - 46-26-374-2
Phillips - 41-26-319-1
Moore - 7-5-57-0
McMath - 2-1-19-0

Okonkwo - 63-44-522-3
Wesco - 21-12-151-1
Rader - 15-10-111-1
Whyle - 10-7-73-0

Henry - 42-33-289-1
Spears - 20-16-117-1
Haskins - 21-16-115-1
Chestnut - 10-8-58-0

TOTAL PASSING: 534-349-4011-20-13

IMO, that's too high a passing projection. That's almost 80 more attempts and 800 more passing yards. To me, that seems too big an increase in throwing the ball.

 

[Big Nate]

I have some thoughts on trying to project passing targets. Last 3 years TEN has passed about 480, 540, and 450 (give or take). Last year was really bad with Tanny getting hurt and Willis literally not able to throw the ball. TEN still is a run first team so I think 540 is likely a bit high and 450 is a bit low. So lets say they throw about 500 times, that breaks down to something like:

Hopkins: 115 (generous). I believe he has the talent still to get 130-140 I just don't see it in this offense.
Burks: 95
Chig: 65
NWI: 55
Phillips: 50
RBs: 55 (maybe...)
The rest about 55.

Thoughts on that breakdown? For those that follow analysts that do team target breakdowns and projections I would be curious to see where they have things.

Last thought: How upset will Hopkins be if he only gets 115 targets on the year (assuming he can stay healthy).

Mike Clay at ESPN has the TEN receiving pie as follows . . .

Hopkins - 125-86-989-4
Burks - 94-58-818-4
NWI - 46-26-374-2
Phillips - 41-26-319-1
Moore - 7-5-57-0
McMath - 2-1-19-0

Okonkwo - 63-44-522-3
Wesco - 21-12-151-1
Rader - 15-10-111-1
Whyle - 10-7-73-0

Henry - 42-33-289-1
Spears - 20-16-117-1
Haskins - 21-16-115-1
Chestnut - 10-8-58-0

TOTAL PASSING: 534-349-4011-20-13

IMO, that's too high a passing projection. That's almost 80 more attempts and 800 more passing yards. To me, that seems too big an increase in throwing the ball.

I think I'm with you here, that is a bit high. I'd probably knock off 40 attempts or so. He has 90 attempts going to the RBs? I do think the offense will be better but I think the RBs lose some targets with Hopkins coming to town (especially if Hopkins works out of the slot a bit).

 

[travdogg]

I have some thoughts on trying to project passing targets. Last 3 years TEN has passed about 480, 540, and 450 (give or take). Last year was really bad with Tanny getting hurt and Willis literally not able to throw the ball. TEN still is a run first team so I think 540 is likely a bit high and 450 is a bit low. So lets say they throw about 500 times, that breaks down to something like:

Hopkins: 115 (generous). I believe he has the talent still to get 130-140 I just don't see it in this offense.
Burks: 95
Chig: 65
NWI: 55
Phillips: 50
RBs: 55 (maybe...)
The rest about 55.

Thoughts on that breakdown? For those that follow analysts that do team target breakdowns and projections I would be curious to see where they have things.

Last thought: How upset will Hopkins be if he only gets 115 targets on the year (assuming he can stay healthy).

Mike Clay at ESPN has the TEN receiving pie as follows . . .

Hopkins - 125-86-989-4
Burks - 94-58-818-4
NWI - 46-26-374-2
Phillips - 41-26-319-1
Moore - 7-5-57-0
McMath - 2-1-19-0

Okonkwo - 63-44-522-3
Wesco - 21-12-151-1
Rader - 15-10-111-1
Whyle - 10-7-73-0

Henry - 42-33-289-1
Spears - 20-16-117-1
Haskins - 21-16-115-1
Chestnut - 10-8-58-0

TOTAL PASSING: 534-349-4011-20-13

IMO, that's too high a passing projection. That's almost 80 more attempts and 800 more passing yards. To me, that seems too big an increase in throwing the ball.

To be fair, they averaged 74 more passing yards per game in games Tannehill started, than ones he didn't. Tannehill was on pace for 3600-18. Could Hopkins, and the improvement from a healthy and more experienced Burks add 400 yards and 2 TDs over the course of 17 games? Seems plausible to me.

 

[Insein]

I have some thoughts on trying to project passing targets. Last 3 years TEN has passed about 480, 540, and 450 (give or take). Last year was really bad with Tanny getting hurt and Willis literally not able to throw the ball. TEN still is a run first team so I think 540 is likely a bit high and 450 is a bit low. So lets say they throw about 500 times, that breaks down to something like:

Hopkins: 115 (generous). I believe he has the talent still to get 130-140 I just don't see it in this offense.
Burks: 95
Chig: 65
NWI: 55
Phillips: 50
RBs: 55 (maybe...)
The rest about 55.

Thoughts on that breakdown? For those that follow analysts that do team target breakdowns and projections I would be curious to see where they have things.

Last thought: How upset will Hopkins be if he only gets 115 targets on the year (assuming he can stay healthy).

Mike Clay at ESPN has the TEN receiving pie as follows . . .

Hopkins - 125-86-989-4
Burks - 94-58-818-4
NWI - 46-26-374-2
Phillips - 41-26-319-1
Moore - 7-5-57-0
McMath - 2-1-19-0

Okonkwo - 63-44-522-3
Wesco - 21-12-151-1
Rader - 15-10-111-1
Whyle - 10-7-73-0

Henry - 42-33-289-1
Spears - 20-16-117-1
Haskins - 21-16-115-1
Chestnut - 10-8-58-0

TOTAL PASSING: 534-349-4011-20-13

IMO, that's too high a passing projection. That's almost 80 more attempts and 800 more passing yards. To me, that seems too big an increase in throwing the ball.

That seems just right for this team for 17 games. Tannenhill being out last year basically ended their season. Tannenhill almost had that in 2021 with only 13 games from AJ Brown and the corpse of Julio Jones for 10. If he gets a healthy Burks and DHop for at least 16 games, those stats are easily attainable.

 

[Faust]

WR DeAndre Hopkins 'very happy' to sign with Titans: 'People are writing us off'

 

[Faust]

DeAndre Hopkins provides a boost to a struggling Titans receiving corps

 

[Bri]

He's moving his family not expected to practice/excused.
He showed up and left early today.

The organization has helped him and his wife get their domestic violence support organization going very quickly. A lot of Haskins comments as expected.

 

[Scoresman]

I have some thoughts on trying to project passing targets. Last 3 years TEN has passed about 480, 540, and 450 (give or take). Last year was really bad with Tanny getting hurt and Willis literally not able to throw the ball. TEN still is a run first team so I think 540 is likely a bit high and 450 is a bit low. So lets say they throw about 500 times, that breaks down to something like:

Hopkins: 115 (generous). I believe he has the talent still to get 130-140 I just don't see it in this offense.
Burks: 95
Chig: 65
NWI: 55
Phillips: 50
RBs: 55 (maybe...)
The rest about 55.

Thoughts on that breakdown? For those that follow analysts that do team target breakdowns and projections I would be curious to see where they have things.

Last thought: How upset will Hopkins be if he only gets 115 targets on the year (assuming he can stay healthy).

Mike Clay at ESPN has the TEN receiving pie as follows . . .

Hopkins - 125-86-989-4
Burks - 94-58-818-4
NWI - 46-26-374-2
Phillips - 41-26-319-1
Moore - 7-5-57-0
McMath - 2-1-19-0

Okonkwo - 63-44-522-3
Wesco - 21-12-151-1
Rader - 15-10-111-1
Whyle - 10-7-73-0

Henry - 42-33-289-1
Spears - 20-16-117-1
Haskins - 21-16-115-1
Chestnut - 10-8-58-0

TOTAL PASSING: 534-349-4011-20-13

IMO, that's too high a passing projection. That's almost 80 more attempts and 800 more passing yards. To me, that seems too big an increase in throwing the ball.

Titans defense is also projected to be worse than last year this season. That could offset and help reach the higher pass attempts.

I have their pass attempts at 530, just slightly lower than 2021.

 

[Bri]

Guy is really getting into Titans social media; every day something new.
I think it's fun

 

[Faust]

'Inside Training Camp Live' Buzz: Colts RB Jonathan Taylor (ankle) excused from practice; Titans seeing 'vintage' DeAndre Hopkins

Excerpt:

'Vintage' Hopkins seen at Titans camp​

Tennessee landed the big-play wideout it needed in DeAndre Hopkins just ahead of training camp, and Ryan Tannehill is already enjoying his new target in practice.

"He's been a big addition," the Titans quarterback said of Hopkins on Inside Training Camp Live on Tuesday. "We've seen some huge plays from him. Vintage Hopkins that you've seen across his career of tight, contested catches when he's able to elevate or make the extended catch. So, as a quarterback, it's been a lot of fun to find those areas where I can put the ball where only he can get it and then he's making the play."

NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport said on ITC Live that Hopkins' journey to Tennessee was a "long, winding road," but the fact that he ultimately chose the Titans is telling that the All-Pro WR believes they will be good in 2023.

 

[goose_egged]

Injuries to Burks, Phillips and now an injury of unknown (but presumably minor) severity to Okongwu. Does this affect Hopkins' value in your eyes?

 

[The Frankman]

DeAndre Hopkins had seven catches for 65 yards in his Titans debut in Week 1 against the Saints.

Ryan Tannehill certainly wanted to get Hopkins the ball. He just couldn’t. Part of it was that Hopkins didn’t seem to be able to get much separation, but he and Tannehill were also not on the same page in Week 1. Still, Hopkins received 13 targets on the day, which was almost double the next closest Titans’ receiver. As long as Ryan Tannehill is under center, Hopkins figures to be a major factor in this passing attack, and it’s only a matter of time before the two get even a little bit more on the same page which could allow one or two of those missed big plays to hit.
- Rotoworld

 

[dipandglide]

13 targets! There will be better days ahead.

 

[goose_egged]

Low efficiency can be attributed to Lattimore and the generally strong Saints pass D. Next week Hopkins is facing the Chargers who just gave up 11-215-2 to Tyreek at home. If Hopkins can do only half as well as Tyreek, we'll all be very happy.

 

[Bri]

Hopkins hurt his ankle late in the game. He tossed the ball to the refs and kinda jogged kinda limped off.
It was reported as he twisted his ankle.

Totally normal for a 31 year old to have rest days so a twisted ankle can heal.

Some are now saying sprained ankle and high ankle sprain.

I don't think it's anything to worry about but....people are either being dramatic or there is some concern so...heads-up on this