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Faust

MVP
Deebo Samuel - WR -  Gamecocks

 At the Reese's Senior Bowl, South Carolina WR Deebo Samuel measured in at 5-foot-11, 216 pounds with 10 1/8-inch hands.

Samuel boasts the biggest paws of any receiver down in Mobile. During Tuesday interviews with the media, the loquacious wideout ran through a number of notable topics. Among the ground covered, the USC receiver compared himself to Eagles WR Golden Tate, told reporters that he was 100-percent recovered from the broken leg he sustained in 2017 and admitted that he still has much work to do as a blocker. He also noted that NFL squads are intrigued by his ability as a return man on special teams (no surprise there). Walter Football's Charlie Campbell views Samuel as a potential Round 2 or even Round 1 selection.

Source: Zach Goodall on Twitter 

 Jan 22 - 3:02 PM


ESPN's Steve Wuench lists South Carolina WR Deebo Samuel as one of the risers after Tuesday's practice at the Reese's Senior Bowl.

Samuel measured in at 5-foot-11, 216-pounds on Tuesday, and also had the biggest hands of any wideout with a 10 1/8-inch measurement. He also impressed once on the field in Mobile on Tuesday, with Wuench mentioning he "showcased his ability to stretch the field during one-on-ones" with speed and the ability to beat press coverage. Samuel has some health concerns and wasn't a consistent performer, but the talent is here for him to be among the top wideouts in the class.

Source: ESPN 

Jan 22 - 9:42 PM

 

Faust

MVP
Senior Bowl Risers - Day 1

Excerpt:

Deebo Samuel/WR/South Carolina: Samuel was always open at South practice, and all four quarterbacks seemed extremely comfortable and confident throwing to him. At 216 pounds with the ability to stick his foot in the ground and cut on a dime, he's nearly impossible to stop on slants and other in-breaking routes and consistently created separation against opposing corners before picking up yardage after the catch. His 10 1/8-inch hands are very sticky and allow him to make catches at full extension even when he can't get his fingers around the ball. The difference between Samuel and every other receiver at the Senior Bowl is already obvious.

 

Faust

MVP
South Carolina WR Deebo Samuel compared himself to Philadelphia Eagles WR Golden Tate.

Samuel (5'11/216) was one of the clear winners from Senior Bowl practices on Tuesday, consistently showing off his short-area burst. Not only does he see some of Tate in himself -- both are tricky to take down once they have the ball in their hands -- the two wideouts may end up with a similar draft slot. Tate was drafted near the end of the second round back in 2010.

Source: Eric Edholm on Twitter 

Jan 23 - 12:32 PM

 

Faust

MVP
Draft Network's Joe Marino called South Carolina senior WR Deebo Samuel a "nuanced route runner."

Marino notes that the 6-foot, 202-pound Samuel "knows how to separate from coverage while also able to win above-the-rim in contested situations" and additionally writes that the senior wideout is "prolific after the catch." Coming back off a severe leg injury which cut his 2017 season short, Samuel has worked out to a 22-206-2 receiving line. He's also runback four kickoffs for 95 yards. While his statistical output has been somewhat disappointing this season, the same can be said for South Carolina's offense as a whole. At this juncture, Samuel should be viewed as a likely Day 3 selection for the draft.

Source: Draft Network 

Fri, Oct 5, 2018 01:32:00 PM


Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline gives South Carolina senior WR Deebo Samuel a first-round grade heading into the 2019 season.

Not surprisingly, that grade is the top among Gamecocks' players. Pauline calls Samuel a "game breaking" talent, with the ability to make plays in the return game, and his reliable hands with 6-foot, 202-pound size make him a potential top 32 selection. He also notes that there are injury concerns here -- Samuel broke his leg last season -- so he'll have to have a strong season and check out medically if he is going to be selected in the first round.

Source: Draft Analyst 

Sun, Aug 19, 2018 11:00:00 AM

 

Zyphros

Footballguy
Really like Deebo myself too.  I'm actually excited for the senior bowl to see what he can do.  

 

Faust

MVP
NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah compares South Carolina WR Deebo Samuel to Carolina Panthers WR D.J. Moore.

Interesting, as Samuel compared himself to Philadelphia Eagles wideout Golden Tate. So is Golden Tate similar to DJ Moore by these rules? We may never know. Jeremiah -- and several others -- have come away impressed with Samuel (5'11/216) and his ability to make plays with the ball in his hands and get open. Moore was a first-round pick last year. It's not out of the question that happens with Samuel if he tests well.

Source: NFL.com 

Jan 23 - 9:43 PM

 

Faust

MVP
Five standouts from Senior Bowl Day 2

Excerpt:

Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina: He's stacked two really good days together. He probably had the catch of the day on Wednesday on a double move -- it was a back-shoulder throw and he adjusted for it to make a really athletic catch. He reminds me a lot of the Panthers' D.J. Moore, who was selected 24th overall last year. Samuel might not go in the first round like Moore did, but I think he's a second-round pick who'll be a really good asset with his ability to run routes, catch the ball and also run the ball. -- Daniel Jeremiah
 

Ilov80s

Footballguy
Sounds like he is destroying the Senior Bowl practice getting open at will. He would make a great Detoit Lion to replace Tate in the slot.

 

mcd

Footballguy
Hoping 49ers Shanahan falls in love with him while coaching the South. Originally I thought he might drop to the early 3rd round but he has really looked good so far and they may have to grab him in the 2nd.

 

Faust

MVP
Senior Bowl notebook, Day 3: Deebo Samuel caps off great week

Excerpt:

Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina: He was fantastic all week. He's physical, well put together and runs good routes. Receivers get grabbed a ton out here at Senior Bowl practices. The corners are really grabby -- things that are going to be penalties at the next level. Not only did he play through it, but a lot of times he worked himself wide open through his physicality inside the route and route acumen. He was smart in terms of how he got out of his brakes, and he caught everything that was thrown his way. I talked to a couple of teams that were really excited about what he did in the first two days here and there's no way they're not going to like what they saw today. -- Lance Zierlein

 

Edgar

Footballguy
I see Deebo as a bundle of energy. He has a suddenness and shirkiness that benefits his size. Is it wrong that I see shades of a slot Darren Sproles? 

 

Ilov80s

Footballguy
I saw a few of his 1v1 routes and my only worry is I don't often see these triple moves, NBA style shakes/stutters work in the NFL as much. In the NFL it seems routes are better when they are clean, hard and sudden. Will he have enough time and space to do all these headfakes? It reminds me of when people were in awe over the triple and quadruple moves Braxton Miller was putting on DBs in the Senior Bowl. 

 

JohnnyU

Footballguy
Before this season (11 TDs) he hadn't done much and that is without getting 1000 yards this season.  It could be blamed on bad QB play at South Carolina.  He definitely could be a steal at the next level.

 

Ilov80s

Footballguy
Before this season (11 TDs) he hadn't done much and that is without getting 1000 yards this season.  It could be blamed on bad QB play at South Carolina.  He definitely could be a steal at the next level.
That is worth looking into. In college, we definitely shouldn't look at raw stats but instead how their production relative to their offense.

 

Zyphros

Footballguy
Before this season (11 TDs) he hadn't done much and that is without getting 1000 yards this season.  It could be blamed on bad QB play at South Carolina.  He definitely could be a steal at the next level.
His freshman year he played 5 games (don't know why) and his Junior year played 3 games because of a broken leg.  And according to Muschamp, when he broke his leg, he actually tried to play through it.  Tough dude.  

 

Zyphros

Footballguy
His freshman year he played 5 games (don't know why) and his Junior year played 3 games because of a broken leg.  And according to Muschamp, when he broke his leg, he actually tried to play through it.  Tough dude.  
He also had 6 TD's his junior year before that broken leg in 3 games.  2 of which were returns but still.  

 

JohnnyU

Footballguy
His freshman year he played 5 games (don't know why) and his Junior year played 3 games because of a broken leg.  And according to Muschamp, when he broke his leg, he actually tried to play through it.  Tough dude.  
My point was that he's sort of off the radar of fantasy players because of his lack of production overall in college, whether that's by injury or bad QB play.  He could be a 2nd rd rookie steal in dynasty leagues.  Kind of like Anthony Miller was last year, who wasn't at the front of dynasty league radar for injury concerns, who I think has a great future in the NFL.

 
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mcd

Footballguy
JohnnyU said:
My point was that he's sort of off the radar of fantasy players because of his lack of production overall in college, whether that's by injury or bad QB play.  He could be a 2nd rd rookie steal in dynasty leagues.  Kind of like Anthony Miller was last year, who wasn't at the front of dynasty league radar for injury concerns, who I think has a great future in the NFL.
I didn't think Jake Bentley did Deebo or Bryan Edwards any favors this year. I was big on both of them going into the season and even with somewhat subpar seasons, I still am.

 

Zyphros

Footballguy
JohnnyU said:
My point was that he's sort of off the radar of fantasy players because of his lack of production overall in college, whether that's by injury or bad QB play.  He could be a 2nd rd rookie steal in dynasty leagues.  Kind of like Anthony Miller was last year, who wasn't at the front of dynasty league radar for injury concerns, who I think has a great future in the NFL.
I got your point, just wanted to say he had a pretty good sophomore year and his injuries his junior year is to clarify why he had that lack of production.

 

Slapdash

Footballguy
I didn't think Jake Bentley did Deebo or Bryan Edwards any favors this year. I was big on both of them going into the season and even with somewhat subpar seasons, I still am.
Both had a bit of the dropsies at times this year on big plays too

 

Faust

MVP
The Draft Network's Brad Kelly compares WR Deebo Samuel to Panthers WR D.J. Moore.

Kelly is high on Samuel (5'11/216), especially from an athletic standpoint where he mentions "his combination of physical profile and explosiveness isn’t normally seen. Athletically, he’s most similar to a prospect from last year, D.J. Moore." Kelly also believes the two have "similarities in their contact balance, route running ceiling and strength." For reference, Moore ran a 4.42 40-yard dash with a 39.5-inch vertical at the NFL Scouting Combine last year. Posting those types of numbers would likely vault Samuel into the first round conversation.

Source: The Draft Network 

Jan 27 - 1:30 PM

 

Zyphros

Footballguy
I doubt he's as good an athlete as DJ Moore but there are similarities for sure.  Stocky as hell being one of those since my first note I had written down on him is "looks like a RB".

 

BigTex

Don't mess with Texas
Zyphros said:
I doubt he's as good an athlete as DJ Moore but there are similarities for sure.  Stocky as hell being one of those since my first note I had written down on him is "looks like a RB".
My exact thoughts.

Tex

 

Biabreakable

Footballguy
I saw a few of his 1v1 routes and my only worry is I don't often see these triple moves, NBA style shakes/stutters work in the NFL as much. In the NFL it seems routes are better when they are clean, hard and sudden. Will he have enough time and space to do all these headfakes? It reminds me of when people were in awe over the triple and quadruple moves Braxton Miller was putting on DBs in the Senior Bowl. 
Or Cordarralle Patterson.

Every route should look the same. Having to use multiple unpredictable moves to get open does not really help because the QB wants to throw with timing and anticipation. Stuff like that works better if the QB can extend the play and wait for those moves to develop.

 

Ilov80s

Footballguy
Or Cordarralle Patterson.

Every route should look the same. Having to use multiple unpredictable moves to get open does not really help because the QB wants to throw with timing and anticipation. Stuff like that works better if the QB can extend the play and wait for those moves to develop.
Yes, it’s playground stuff. Now maybe it’s for show at the practices and his game tape is better- idk.

 

Faust

MVP
Deebo Samuel - WR -  Gamecocks

The Athletic's Dane Brugler believes South Carolina WR Deebo Samuel is best suited as a slot receiver and return specialist in the NFL.

Brugler argues that Samuel (5'11/216) would be better off inside and used in a way that allows him to pick up yards after the catch. Built more like a running back, Samuel is a twitchy and balanced play-maker, which has linked him to Carolina Panthers WR D.J. Moore. However, it's unlikely that Samuel posts a 39.5-inch vertical at the NFL Combine as Moore did. Consider Samuel an intriguing Day 2 or early Day 3 slot prospect.

Source: The Athletic 

Feb 1 - 9:37 PM

 

Zyphros

Footballguy
Correct me if I’m wrong but a quick google search says he’s 23?  Anyone keep track of ages can confirm?  If that’s true he’s moving down the list a little for me.  Still like him but more mid/late 2nd rather than early.

 

Zyphros

Footballguy
Highly doubt the Cowboys take him.  Gallup is good, as is Amari, they want depth talent in the 4th-6th rather than late 2nd-3rd which is where Deebo is likely to go.  I can’t imagine the Cowboys going that early at WR.

 

Faust

MVP
South Carolina WR Deebo Samuel ran the 40-yard dash in an unofficial 4.48 seconds at the NFL Scouting Combine.

More importantly, Samuel (5'11/214) finished with a top-five time in the short shuttle, which is expected if you've #GrindedTheTape. Samuel is one of the best after the catch receivers in the class -- think Golden Tate for reference -- and his short-area quickness proved to be true in the shuttle. When it comes to production, Samuel passes the test after totaling 882 receiving yards and 11 touchdowns in 2018. While Samuel is a long-shot for Round 1, it's getting safe to assume that he'll be off the board on Day 2.

SOURCE: NFL.com

Mar 2, 2019, 5:08 PM

 

Faust

MVP
South Carolina WR Deebo Samuel reportedly met with 20 teams at the NFL Scouting Combine.

Samuel told NFL.com that he met with so many teams that it was difficult to keep track. Sounds like a pretty good problem. The 5-foot-11, 214-pound wideout obviously has some medical concerns because of his injury history, but he said that most teams talked to him about his game rather than his health. Samuel's SPARQ score of 132.3 put him in the 92.3 percentile, and he's expected to come off the board early on Day 2 this April.

SOURCE: NFL.com

Mar 5, 2019, 4:20 PM

 

Faust

MVP
NFL Media's Lance Zierlein reports that South Carolina WR Deebo Samuel's "past hamstring issues concern evaluators."

This is, by far, the biggest knock against Samuel's draft profile, and it may cause Samuel to slide a little further than expected on Day 2 of the NFL Draft. When healthy, Samuel has a Golden Tate-style game predicated on yards after the catch and high competitiveness. At South Carolina in 2018, Samuel scored 11 touchdowns on just 62 receptions. He's a boom or bust slot prospect that "might need scheme help with motion and bunch formations to help free him against NFL man coverage."

SOURCE: NFL.com

Mar 10, 2019, 3:21 PM

 

Faust

MVP
Matt Miller @nfldraftscout

Deebo Samuel doesn't get enough credit for being a very good route-runner. He's not just a speed guy, but has quick feet and good power to work back to the ball.
 

Faust

MVP
NFL Film's Greg Cosell said South Carolina WR Deebo Samuel "may transition better as a physical powerful slot-movement receiver."

Cosell believes Samuel (5'11/214) will line up all over the formation, but he wants to see Samuel in the slot to take advantage of his yards after catch ability. Samuel has "desirable" burst and speed, but Cosell argues that there is room for improvement surrounding his route running. Perhaps his biggest weakness heading into the draft is his injury history, however. NFL Media's Lance Zierlein reported that Samuel's "past hamstring issues concern evaluators." A boom-or-bust prospect, Samuel is on track to be a Day 2 selection.

SOURCE: Greg Cosell on Twitter

Mar 22, 2019, 5:17 PM

 

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