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WR Deebo Samuel, WAS (2 Viewers)
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That would be an excellent fit. Deebo would be a perfect complement to McLaurin, and assuming Ekeler is back, could give them some interesting personnel runouts, Washington was among the most screen and RPO heavy teams in the NFL, and that was often with guys like Zaccheaus or Noah/Dyami Brown, none of whom are even close to the RAC threat Deebo is.
Yeah, I’d be very surprised if he netted a 2nd. Even a 3rd seems like a stretch at this point.
I would think, with Washington not having a 4th, we could see a pick swap deal. Like Washington dealing the #79 for the #112 and Deebo, that kind of thing.
agree. but given the number of teams showing interest..... It will probably take at least a 3rd and possibly a 2nd.
Like I said, it may actually be better if San Fran can make a football trade and get a player back who would fit a need of theirs. but that may be expecting too much.
49ers could use another DT. Deebo for Jonathan Allen and a late pick?
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Makes too much sense, so probably won’t happen. Deebo is an interesting projection for next year. There were quite of few blurbs of him being overweight and that seemingly impacted his play. If the guy is motivated and in good shape I think he has a chance to be a bargain for another team.
I've read trading Deebo before 6/1 causes the 49ers to take a $31 million cap hit this year. I don't see how they would view that as feasible unless they are getting draft comp that they can't say no to, and I also can't imagine any team offering anything more than a 4th rounder or so for him.
If/whenever they trade him his contract is a big plus to the acquiring team and why I think his comp is going to be a lot more favorable then a 4th.
I guess, but even at the acquiring team's cap number, they are getting a guy who 51/670/3 last year (42/136/1 rushing, 3.2 ypc). He likely won't be any healthier going forward than he was last year. That kind of production just isn't worth a premium pick.
I think that statement is nuts. Man got put in the hospital with pneumonia and you act like it's a par for the course.
I said this not long after the season and I'll say it again. If he fell off the cliff it was the fastest/steepest cliff dive in history of sports I've watched in the last 40+years because it would have literally been measured in a week or two. He looked tremendous starting the first few weeks of the season until he had the minor injury and pneumonia.
He was playing at less than 100% for a chunk of time, for sure. But he played in 15 games and he has historically had conditioning issues. It won't be pneumonia next year but it will be something else, IMO.
He reported in great shape last year and my guess is will be highly motivated to do the same. I think one year he admitted he could have been in better shape. One year, not sure I can call that historic or am in position to so confidently forecast injuries in the way you do but that's why we all have our own opinions.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
High chance he ends up in Washington in the next couple days. As a fan, think he’s a perfect fit and will open up the offense tremendously. Don’t think it will translate to big fantasy numbers though.
opensourcebeer
Footballguy
Deebo to Washington for a 5th being reported
The Frankman
Footballguy
His WR skills must have declined to average levels to give up only a 5th. That or it's a money thing.
To be fair, Tyshun struggled vs. man coverage at times.
To be fair, Tyshun struggled vs. man coverage at times.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Not really impressed with this guy. Living off his AP1 year a few years ago. Always seems to have some type of limiting issue. I hope the Commanders are dumb enough to extend him before the season.
zamboni
Footballguy
Probably a combination. With his contract, that’s probably all Washington wanted to give up.
zamboni
Footballguy
Even in his prime, he was a much better football player than a receiver.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Yep, my sentiments exactly. I don't think he is a great WR at all, but a good one when he's healthy - which is for about 6 games a year.
Bad move for the Commanders, IMO.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Good call.
I on the other hand am very wrong on his low salary helping increase his price.
So reports are Washington is paying his whole $17.5m salary.
That makes just getting back a 5th make sense.
What I don’t get is already converted most of his base to bonus last year and OTC and Spotrac were showing his base was near league minimum. This was why both of those sites showed a $31m cap hit to trade him now because it pushed all that bonus money they paid out already to be on the cap. I usually have a good handle on contracts, though the option bonus have caused me a little confusion but still can’t figure out how his pay this year is that high. Some info seems off on those sites
That makes just getting back a 5th make sense.
What I don’t get is already converted most of his base to bonus last year and OTC and Spotrac were showing his base was near league minimum. This was why both of those sites showed a $31m cap hit to trade him now because it pushed all that bonus money they paid out already to be on the cap. I usually have a good handle on contracts, though the option bonus have caused me a little confusion but still can’t figure out how his pay this year is that high. Some info seems off on those sites
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Desert_Power
Footballguy
Love this move.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
I won’t be surprised if we negotiate a new deal for him (or already have framework set). Something like a three year deal that’s really two with an easy out.
His arrival really puts defenses in a pickle. This offense is gonna be a problem.
He was the 2nd best WR in the NFL in 2021 and was also awesome in 2023. Last year was his worst season, and really until the pneumonia, he was playing just fine. I'll say I think he hurts McLaurin quite a bit. Like to the point that they are both WR2s. He also likely kills Ertz value, if he is even retained.
I think people get too obsessed with raw stats sometimes. Deebo completely changes how defenses play and offers value FAR beyond the box score. This is an excellent move by Washington in my eyes. Possibly the best WR they could have added given their offense.
The big fantasy winner here is George Kittle. His splits with/without Deebo are legendary. He's TE1 overall in redraft in my opinion, especially as we don't really know Aiyuk's timeline or Bowers QB.
Tau837
Footballguy
Edited:
His compensation in 2025 is:
- Salary - $1.17M
- Roster bonus per game in 2025 - $750K
- Option bonus due on 3/22/2025 - $15.4M
- Workout bonus - $200K
- Total compensation - $17.52M
The 49ers dead cap hit to trade him is:
- $4.807M x 2 for his remaining prorated signing bonus
- $3.969M x 4 for his remaining prorated restructure - I missed this the first time
- $1.843M x 3 for the remaining prorated 2023 option bonus
- Total dead cap - $31.02M
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Almost 30 years old
Usually hurt over the past 3 seasons
Non Story for the most part
Usually hurt over the past 3 seasons
Non Story for the most part
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m betting he becomes a steal at that price.
He wasn’t happy in SF, and Purdy was playing somewhat mediocre ball behind a shaky OL all year.
The playcalling without CMC was unimaginative, predictable and vanilla. I suspect most Niners fans will agree with this.
I believe WAS got a bargain on a slash player who will be a great compliment to TMc, and they have BRob & Eke to open up running lanes & a QB who can use the threat of his legs to open up intermediate passing lanes.
Washington made a very sharp deal here. I question how much of Deebo’s “injuries” were related to a dysfunctional offense. Dude ran into a brick wall again and again.
We’ll revisit your quote mid-season to see how broken down Deebo is, and how much a non-story this acquisition proves to be. Maybe it ages well, maybe not.
As a Deebo shareholder I don’t hate this move at all for his potential output.
clearly the win for San fran is that they are not on the hook for any more of the guys salary. for me, thats the only scenario where trading him makes any sense. if you have to retain salary on top of the dead cap hit that becomes expensive. at that point might as well keep a dissatisfied Deebo til he leaves
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
a fifth? I know you guys want Washington to win but make the collusion less obvious
zamboni
Footballguy
He was indeed great in 2021, but was pretty average in 2023. In fact, his 2021 season seems to have been the outlier - never has had more than 77 receptions from that season and that was his only 1K receiving season.
He’s a very good overall football player - or at least was - but not a dynamic receiver. Not singling you out, but I think many are projecting that 2021 season to who Deebo is at this stage, and the value he should command.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
The 49ers need to pay their QB.
Deebo has a pretty big cap number for a guy that hasn’t done much other than get hurt and complain for the last 3 years.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
A fifth seems right to me. What’s the fuss with a fifth?
zamboni
Footballguy
It’s hard to say what the “right” value is if you’re bidding against yourself (which may have been the case). Kind of like buying a house if you’re the only buyer - there is no market per se, just what a buyer is willing to pay.
Is there any link for this or is this your independent analysis? I'm having trouble finding confirmation that this is the case.
