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MattFancy said:
False Start said:
Time for more Eagles fans to sound bitter. Even though this isnt news and was pretty known, Rotoworld just posted it.

CBS Philadelphia reports DeSean Jackson skipped his end-of-season exit interview with Eagles coach Chip Kelly.

Per reporter Joseph Santoliquito, Jackson was "possibly the only Eagle" to skip his interview. It would be a highly-unusual move, one certain to rankle management. It's never a good look for a team to smear a player on his way out the door, but it's pretty clear things had become untenable between Philly and D-Jax. Both sides needed a change.
I think everyone knows DJax wasn't an angel in Philly. It's just funny that all of these stories are coming out now after he's gone.
From the story:

Jackson topped off his career-breaking season by blowing off Kelly for his exit interview, possibly the only Eagle to do so, according to several sources.
Unnamed sources, story in a Philly news outlet, trashing Jackson. Gee, where do we think the story came from?

The Eagle obsession with Jackson is starting to look at lot like a stalker ex-husband or ex-wife.
Well it clearly came from the Eagles front office and no one else. How many people other than Jackson and Kelly knows he skipped unless Kelly is telling everyone who will listen as many things as he can to justify his horrible move to cut his #1 WR.

 
The Eagles had every right to cut Jackson. 2 years ago the team was a disappointment. Chip Kelly comes in as a rookie head coach, installs a new system, has certain ways he wants things done, and the team unexpectedly wins the division. Admittedly it was a weak division but that's a minor quibble. Kelly's team won it in his first year. When he wanted to cut or otherwise get rid of certain players the front office pretty much had to go along. I don't see anything wrong with that. Only time will tell if Kelly's personnel decisions like this work out well or poorly. All we know is that his one-year track record is good. So Jackson was cut, it was surprising, Kelly and the Eagles had every right to do it whether it was a good decision or bad.

What makes the whole thing smell is the anonymous leaks to smear Jackson. The Eagles could have cut him without any of that, They look petty and defensive and vindictive, exactly the same way Mike Shanahan looked near the end of last year when the anonymously-sourced stories popped up smearing Robert Griffin and others. It's pretty obvious those stories originated with Shanahan, and it's pretty obvious the anonymously-sourced Jackson stories originated with the Eagles front office and coaching staff.

Shanahan had won the division the year before, and last year with the same team just nosedived. There are reasons for that but they don't really matter; it was his 3rd double-digit losing season out of 4. He pretty much knew he'd be getting canned, and started floating stories to make others look bad in order to (in his imagination) defend himself and blame others. Blaming others on his way out the door was in between "childish" and "bitterly divorced" but it's somewhat understandable in that he knew he was getting fired.

The Eagles' stories about Jackson were similarly in between "childish" and "bitterly divorced", but to me aren't understandable. Kelly's on top of the world, the Eagles are on top of the division. They were successful last season and had no need to trash anyone. Why they stooped to such stupid behavior is beyond me. Throwing anonymous Jackson-was-bad stories out there to appease fans seems pretty damn weak to me. Winning next season appeases fans, not anonymous accusations.

 
Funny that certain Philly fans have their panties in such a bunch in this thread.

Here's the bottom line(s).

The Eagles decided to cut a guy because, for a number of reasons, he was not in their long term plans and didn't want to pay him $10 mil plus. Good for them, maybe it works out.

The Skins added a player who provides sorely needed big play ability without giving up a draft pick and with a deal that includes a good amount of up front money but by all accounts is very manageable cap wise and allows them to get out without much harm after 2 seasons. Good for us. Hopefully it works out.

And D-Jax got a fair deal with a slightly reduced annual salary but a lot more up front money and it allows him to hit the FA market again as a 30 year old WR. Hopefully it works out for him too.

Eagles fans who don't like Jackson should be happy he's no longer on the team but taking parting shots at a guy who produced for your team at a relatively high level for 6 seasons comes across as petty. And the barbs at the Redskins organization and fan base are all well and good. But IMO they seem equally as petty and juvenile. You guys are having a gay old time bashing the Skins in this thread. And yes, we've been awful for the last 22 years. The Birds have been a much better run franchise over that time period but what do they have to show for it? The great thing about Super Bowl championships is that they are FOREVER. And every team in this division has enjoyed multiple championships while the Eagles have NONE. Just the facts. Gloat all you want that the Skins won 3 games last year and the Eagles won the division. But remember that things change quickly in the NFL as evidenced by the fact that the year before the Eagles won 4 games and the Skins won the division. And talk all you want about FA signings when your dream team efforts from just a few short seasons ago was an epic failure.

As a Skins fan I'm happy that an offense that desperately needed a big play dynamic just added one of the best big play guys in the league and who has been THE best in division big play WR since being in the NFL. He's not perfect by any means but he's 27 and didnt receive an exorbitant long term contract in contrast to our FA signings of the past which gave long term deals to guys on the downside of their career.

We'll see how it plays out when the season starts but some of you fans sure spend a lot of time talking about a guy who is no longer on your team. Why don't you start a new Maclin or Riley Cooper thread or something?
:goodposting: :own3d: :IBTL: /thread
One of the best posts I've ever seen in over a decade at FBGs.

Good to see VaTerp's contributions to the SP again.

Bravo.
I agree that the posts in here from Eagles fans comes of as a little petty. I was (and still am not) very happy they cut their best WR and got no compensation for him at all. Even worse, he goes to a division rival. What I am happy about is that Chip seems to have drawn a line in the sand and has said to the team "Listen, work hard, motivate each other, and we will win". It's an attitude that DeSean by the sounds of it didn't want to be a part of. When you don't buy into the plan the coach is trying to establish you become a distraction and after the last several years with Reid the Eagles didn't need that. As much as it sucks to see him go to the Redskins this team is still on a good course that hopefully leads to a Super Bowl trophy. As for Skins fans, you guys just got a very dynamic and explosive player that is going to open up an offense that already was pretty good and will be even better.

We all should just drop the bickering on both sides here and let see how it all goes down this season and beyond. Very much looking forward to all divisional games this year. In seasons past it hadn't felt like the Skins/Eagles rivalry had been at the fore front but if nothing else the Jackson signing has got juices of (respectful) hate flowing again. Very much looking forward to these two games.

 
Funny that certain Philly fans have their panties in such a bunch in this thread.

Eagles fans who don't like Jackson should be happy he's no longer on the team but taking parting shots at a guy who produced for your team at a relatively high level for 6 seasons comes across as petty. And the barbs at the Redskins organization and fan base are all well and good. But IMO they seem equally as petty and juvenile.
People are liking the post but I think for the wrong reasons. IMHO all you did was uncover the disconnect with what's been going on in this thread.

The Eagles fans who dislike Jackson ARE happy he's no longer on the team, that part is correct. Everything after that is being taken completly the wrong way by you, and a lot of other here. These aren't parting shots. These are people telling you what to expect. Like having a hot girlfriend and you know she's a little off, has some crazy #### with her and you break up with her only for her to start seeing someone you dislike. You're the new guy who was oblivious to anything until she ended up in your life. You thought you had this great woman, married her, only to start hearing from everyone just how bad she was. You can only do one thing at this point--defend her and your decision to propose and hope it doesnt happen to you.

These arent jealous/petty/juvenille/hater comments...not even close actually.

Maybe Jackson learns from everything that has happened to him and has a Cris Carter type of turnaround. It's happened before. All we can do now is wait and see.

 
Good post Bigboy. As a Giants fan I have a vested interest in what goes on in the division and I am just happy the Giants did not sign someone like Jackson. I am not a huge fan of 'me' first players like Jackson.

 
Funny that certain Philly fans have their panties in such a bunch in this thread.

Eagles fans who don't like Jackson should be happy he's no longer on the team but taking parting shots at a guy who produced for your team at a relatively high level for 6 seasons comes across as petty. And the barbs at the Redskins organization and fan base are all well and good. But IMO they seem equally as petty and juvenile.
People are liking the post but I think for the wrong reasons. IMHO all you did was uncover the disconnect with what's been going on in this thread.

The Eagles fans who dislike Jackson ARE happy he's no longer on the team, that part is correct. Everything after that is being taken completly the wrong way by you, and a lot of other here. These aren't parting shots. These are people telling you what to expect. Like having a hot girlfriend and you know she's a little off, has some crazy #### with her and you break up with her only for her to start seeing someone you dislike. You're the new guy who was oblivious to anything until she ended up in your life. You thought you had this great woman, married her, only to start hearing from everyone just how bad she was. You can only do one thing at this point--defend her and your decision to propose and hope it doesnt happen to you.

These arent jealous/petty/juvenille/hater comments...not even close actually.

Maybe Jackson learns from everything that has happened to him and has a Cris Carter type of turnaround. It's happened before. All we can do now is wait and see.
Great post.

 
Funny that certain Philly fans have their panties in such a bunch in this thread.

Eagles fans who don't like Jackson should be happy he's no longer on the team but taking parting shots at a guy who produced for your team at a relatively high level for 6 seasons comes across as petty. And the barbs at the Redskins organization and fan base are all well and good. But IMO they seem equally as petty and juvenile.
People are liking the post but I think for the wrong reasons. IMHO all you did was uncover the disconnect with what's been going on in this thread.

The Eagles fans who dislike Jackson ARE happy he's no longer on the team, that part is correct. Everything after that is being taken completly the wrong way by you, and a lot of other here. These aren't parting shots. These are people telling you what to expect. Like having a hot girlfriend and you know she's a little off, has some crazy #### with her and you break up with her only for her to start seeing someone you dislike. You're the new guy who was oblivious to anything until she ended up in your life. You thought you had this great woman, married her, only to start hearing from everyone just how bad she was. You can only do one thing at this point--defend her and your decision to propose and hope it doesnt happen to you.

These arent jealous/petty/juvenille/hater comments...not even close actually.

Maybe Jackson learns from everything that has happened to him and has a Cris Carter type of turnaround. It's happened before. All we can do now is wait and see.
Ok, so all of the pot shots taken at Jackson, the Redskins organization, and the fans, many of which are followed by lmao emoticons are just friendly PSAs to the fans of a division rival on "what to expect?" Sure.....

As a Redskin fan, I expect Jackson to produce on the field similar to how he has over the past 6 seasons when he was THE best in division big play WR in the league. And I expect him to open up the field and create opportunities for others on the offense. I expect this based on watching him play his entire career, including several torchings of the Skins.

I really couldn't care less what your perspective is on what I should expect beyond that or the off the field stuff. It's based mostly on anonymous sources and peoples opinions. And unless you, bigboy, are a member of the Eagles organization then your OPINION on what to expect is just that, and not worth much to me unless it was written on a fresh roll of toilet paper.

IMHO, the negatives on Jackson are being greatly overstated as is the whole team cancer mantra being thrown about. The guy was such a team cancer that the Eagles made the playoffs in 4 of the 6 seasons he was on the team and he was the leading WR on a team that won the division last year with a rookie HC and an unproven QB. Does the guy have some maturity issues to work on? Sure, but I could really care less as long as he produces on the field. A "Cris Carte type turnaround" is not needed because, as far as I know, Jackson does not have a severe alcohol and cocaine problem.

So I don't think I, or the people who liked my post, got anything wrong. We just have very different opinions and perspectives on the situation.

 
Funny that certain Philly fans have their panties in such a bunch in this thread.

Eagles fans who don't like Jackson should be happy he's no longer on the team but taking parting shots at a guy who produced for your team at a relatively high level for 6 seasons comes across as petty. And the barbs at the Redskins organization and fan base are all well and good. But IMO they seem equally as petty and juvenile.
People are liking the post but I think for the wrong reasons. IMHO all you did was uncover the disconnect with what's been going on in this thread.

The Eagles fans who dislike Jackson ARE happy he's no longer on the team, that part is correct. Everything after that is being taken completly the wrong way by you, and a lot of other here. These aren't parting shots. These are people telling you what to expect. Like having a hot girlfriend and you know she's a little off, has some crazy #### with her and you break up with her only for her to start seeing someone you dislike. You're the new guy who was oblivious to anything until she ended up in your life. You thought you had this great woman, married her, only to start hearing from everyone just how bad she was. You can only do one thing at this point--defend her and your decision to propose and hope it doesnt happen to you.

These arent jealous/petty/juvenille/hater comments...not even close actually.

Maybe Jackson learns from everything that has happened to him and has a Cris Carter type of turnaround. It's happened before. All we can do now is wait and see.
Ok, so all of the pot shots taken at Jackson, the Redskins organization, and the fans, many of which are followed by lmao emoticons are just friendly PSAs to the fans of a division rival on "what to expect?" Sure.....

As a Redskin fan, I expect Jackson to produce on the field similar to how he has over the past 6 seasons when he was THE best in division big play WR in the league. And I expect him to open up the field and create opportunities for others on the offense. I expect this based on watching him play his entire career, including several torchings of the Skins.

I really couldn't care less what your perspective is on what I should expect beyond that or the off the field stuff. It's based mostly on anonymous sources and peoples opinions. And unless you, bigboy, are a member of the Eagles organization then your OPINION on what to expect is just that, and not worth much to me unless it was written on a fresh roll of toilet paper.

IMHO, the negatives on Jackson are being greatly overstated as is the whole team cancer mantra being thrown about. The guy was such a team cancer that the Eagles made the playoffs in 4 of the 6 seasons he was on the team and he was the leading WR on a team that won the division last year with a rookie HC and an unproven QB. Does the guy have some maturity issues to work on? Sure, but I could really care less as long as he produces on the field. A "Cris Carte type turnaround" is not needed because, as far as I know, Jackson does not have a severe alcohol and cocaine problem.

So I don't think I, or the people who liked my post, got anything wrong. We just have very different opinions and perspectives on the situation.
Please refer to the bolded.

You are saying others opinion on the so called situation are misinformed for not knowing Jackson. Yet in your humble opinion (without knowing Jackson or the situation personally) you are saying it is 'greatly overstated'.

You realize those who are greatly overstating the situation are looking at it like this: Even though Jackson was a great player for the Eagles and had some great moments, he was just cut from that team for being a cancer. I don't know how much bigger of a red flag someone needs to have. You can spin it anyway you like, but needless to say Jackson has some issues that were so prudent that he was fired from his team even after he and the team were successful.

Many think that it is only a matter of time before Jackson repeats similar actions with his new team (me included). The Eagles organization under a different coaching staff benefitted from player like Jackson before when they went after Owens and lost in the SB. It worked out short term as it possibly could with the Redskins. I however have no qualms about Chip Kelly cutting Jackson if he thinks it is better for the team and the organization long term. Will his stats be missed this year on the Eagles? probably. Does this mean the Eagles will be any less successful? who knows. But I happen to think all those options were discussed prior to his release. It is not as if the coaches and GM's make these type of decisions without thinking it through. So imho as a Giants fan and as a nuetral I happen to respect Kelly a lot more after making a move like this.

 
Funny that certain Philly fans have their panties in such a bunch in this thread.

Eagles fans who don't like Jackson should be happy he's no longer on the team but taking parting shots at a guy who produced for your team at a relatively high level for 6 seasons comes across as petty. And the barbs at the Redskins organization and fan base are all well and good. But IMO they seem equally as petty and juvenile.
People are liking the post but I think for the wrong reasons. IMHO all you did was uncover the disconnect with what's been going on in this thread.

The Eagles fans who dislike Jackson ARE happy he's no longer on the team, that part is correct. Everything after that is being taken completly the wrong way by you, and a lot of other here. These aren't parting shots. These are people telling you what to expect. Like having a hot girlfriend and you know she's a little off, has some crazy #### with her and you break up with her only for her to start seeing someone you dislike. You're the new guy who was oblivious to anything until she ended up in your life. You thought you had this great woman, married her, only to start hearing from everyone just how bad she was. You can only do one thing at this point--defend her and your decision to propose and hope it doesnt happen to you.

These arent jealous/petty/juvenille/hater comments...not even close actually.

Maybe Jackson learns from everything that has happened to him and has a Cris Carter type of turnaround. It's happened before. All we can do now is wait and see.
Ok, so all of the pot shots taken at Jackson, the Redskins organization, and the fans, many of which are followed by lmao emoticons are just friendly PSAs to the fans of a division rival on "what to expect?" Sure.....

As a Redskin fan, I expect Jackson to produce on the field similar to how he has over the past 6 seasons when he was THE best in division big play WR in the league. And I expect him to open up the field and create opportunities for others on the offense. I expect this based on watching him play his entire career, including several torchings of the Skins.

I really couldn't care less what your perspective is on what I should expect beyond that or the off the field stuff. It's based mostly on anonymous sources and peoples opinions. And unless you, bigboy, are a member of the Eagles organization then your OPINION on what to expect is just that, and not worth much to me unless it was written on a fresh roll of toilet paper.

IMHO, the negatives on Jackson are being greatly overstated as is the whole team cancer mantra being thrown about. The guy was such a team cancer that the Eagles made the playoffs in 4 of the 6 seasons he was on the team and he was the leading WR on a team that won the division last year with a rookie HC and an unproven QB. Does the guy have some maturity issues to work on? Sure, but I could really care less as long as he produces on the field. A "Cris Carte type turnaround" is not needed because, as far as I know, Jackson does not have a severe alcohol and cocaine problem.

So I don't think I, or the people who liked my post, got anything wrong. We just have very different opinions and perspectives on the situation.
Please refer to the bolded.

You are saying others opinion on the so called situation are misinformed for not knowing Jackson. Yet in your humble opinion (without knowing Jackson or the situation personally) you are saying it is 'greatly overstated'.

You realize those who are greatly overstating the situation are looking at it like this: Even though Jackson was a great player for the Eagles and had some great moments, he was just cut from that team for being a cancer. I don't know how much bigger of a red flag someone needs to have. You can spin it anyway you like, but needless to say Jackson has some issues that were so prudent that he was fired from his team even after he and the team were successful.

Many think that it is only a matter of time before Jackson repeats similar actions with his new team (me included). The Eagles organization under a different coaching staff benefitted from player like Jackson before when they went after Owens and lost in the SB. It worked out short term as it possibly could with the Redskins. I however have no qualms about Chip Kelly cutting Jackson if he thinks it is better for the team and the organization long term. Will his stats be missed this year on the Eagles? probably. Does this mean the Eagles will be any less successful? who knows. But I happen to think all those options were discussed prior to his release. It is not as if the coaches and GM's make these type of decisions without thinking it through. So imho as a Giants fan and as a nuetral I happen to respect Kelly a lot more after making a move like this.
Exactly.

Very :goodposting: but there's simply no reasoning with them. Nothing negative they hear matters. Love is blind.

I'm done with this thread until the season starts or something worth talking about pops up.

 
Funny that certain Philly fans have their panties in such a bunch in this thread.

Eagles fans who don't like Jackson should be happy he's no longer on the team but taking parting shots at a guy who produced for your team at a relatively high level for 6 seasons comes across as petty. And the barbs at the Redskins organization and fan base are all well and good. But IMO they seem equally as petty and juvenile.
People are liking the post but I think for the wrong reasons. IMHO all you did was uncover the disconnect with what's been going on in this thread.

The Eagles fans who dislike Jackson ARE happy he's no longer on the team, that part is correct. Everything after that is being taken completly the wrong way by you, and a lot of other here. These aren't parting shots. These are people telling you what to expect. Like having a hot girlfriend and you know she's a little off, has some crazy #### with her and you break up with her only for her to start seeing someone you dislike. You're the new guy who was oblivious to anything until she ended up in your life. You thought you had this great woman, married her, only to start hearing from everyone just how bad she was. You can only do one thing at this point--defend her and your decision to propose and hope it doesnt happen to you.

These arent jealous/petty/juvenille/hater comments...not even close actually.

Maybe Jackson learns from everything that has happened to him and has a Cris Carter type of turnaround. It's happened before. All we can do now is wait and see.
Ok, so all of the pot shots taken at Jackson, the Redskins organization, and the fans, many of which are followed by lmao emoticons are just friendly PSAs to the fans of a division rival on "what to expect?" Sure.....

As a Redskin fan, I expect Jackson to produce on the field similar to how he has over the past 6 seasons when he was THE best in division big play WR in the league. And I expect him to open up the field and create opportunities for others on the offense. I expect this based on watching him play his entire career, including several torchings of the Skins.

I really couldn't care less what your perspective is on what I should expect beyond that or the off the field stuff. It's based mostly on anonymous sources and peoples opinions. And unless you, bigboy, are a member of the Eagles organization then your OPINION on what to expect is just that, and not worth much to me unless it was written on a fresh roll of toilet paper.

IMHO, the negatives on Jackson are being greatly overstated as is the whole team cancer mantra being thrown about. The guy was such a team cancer that the Eagles made the playoffs in 4 of the 6 seasons he was on the team and he was the leading WR on a team that won the division last year with a rookie HC and an unproven QB. Does the guy have some maturity issues to work on? Sure, but I could really care less as long as he produces on the field. A "Cris Carte type turnaround" is not needed because, as far as I know, Jackson does not have a severe alcohol and cocaine problem.

So I don't think I, or the people who liked my post, got anything wrong. We just have very different opinions and perspectives on the situation.
Just out of curiosity, were people really putting "Desean Jackson" and "elite" or "best in the league" in the same sentence before last season? I mean, '11 & '12 were pretty average if not poor. He's always been fast, but "best in the league" big play WR?

 
Funny that certain Philly fans have their panties in such a bunch in this thread.

Eagles fans who don't like Jackson should be happy he's no longer on the team but taking parting shots at a guy who produced for your team at a relatively high level for 6 seasons comes across as petty. And the barbs at the Redskins organization and fan base are all well and good. But IMO they seem equally as petty and juvenile.
People are liking the post but I think for the wrong reasons. IMHO all you did was uncover the disconnect with what's been going on in this thread.

The Eagles fans who dislike Jackson ARE happy he's no longer on the team, that part is correct. Everything after that is being taken completly the wrong way by you, and a lot of other here. These aren't parting shots. These are people telling you what to expect. Like having a hot girlfriend and you know she's a little off, has some crazy #### with her and you break up with her only for her to start seeing someone you dislike. You're the new guy who was oblivious to anything until she ended up in your life. You thought you had this great woman, married her, only to start hearing from everyone just how bad she was. You can only do one thing at this point--defend her and your decision to propose and hope it doesnt happen to you.

These arent jealous/petty/juvenille/hater comments...not even close actually.

Maybe Jackson learns from everything that has happened to him and has a Cris Carter type of turnaround. It's happened before. All we can do now is wait and see.
Ok, so all of the pot shots taken at Jackson, the Redskins organization, and the fans, many of which are followed by lmao emoticons are just friendly PSAs to the fans of a division rival on "what to expect?" Sure.....

As a Redskin fan, I expect Jackson to produce on the field similar to how he has over the past 6 seasons when he was THE best in division big play WR in the league. And I expect him to open up the field and create opportunities for others on the offense. I expect this based on watching him play his entire career, including several torchings of the Skins.

I really couldn't care less what your perspective is on what I should expect beyond that or the off the field stuff. It's based mostly on anonymous sources and peoples opinions. And unless you, bigboy, are a member of the Eagles organization then your OPINION on what to expect is just that, and not worth much to me unless it was written on a fresh roll of toilet paper.

IMHO, the negatives on Jackson are being greatly overstated as is the whole team cancer mantra being thrown about. The guy was such a team cancer that the Eagles made the playoffs in 4 of the 6 seasons he was on the team and he was the leading WR on a team that won the division last year with a rookie HC and an unproven QB. Does the guy have some maturity issues to work on? Sure, but I could really care less as long as he produces on the field. A "Cris Carte type turnaround" is not needed because, as far as I know, Jackson does not have a severe alcohol and cocaine problem.

So I don't think I, or the people who liked my post, got anything wrong. We just have very different opinions and perspectives on the situation.
Please refer to the bolded.

You are saying others opinion on the so called situation are misinformed for not knowing Jackson. Yet in your humble opinion (without knowing Jackson or the situation personally) you are saying it is 'greatly overstated'.

You realize those who are greatly overstating the situation are looking at it like this: Even though Jackson was a great player for the Eagles and had some great moments, he was just cut from that team for being a cancer. I don't know how much bigger of a red flag someone needs to have. You can spin it anyway you like, but needless to say Jackson has some issues that were so prudent that he was fired from his team even after he and the team were successful.

Many think that it is only a matter of time before Jackson repeats similar actions with his new team (me included). The Eagles organization under a different coaching staff benefitted from player like Jackson before when they went after Owens and lost in the SB. It worked out short term as it possibly could with the Redskins. I however have no qualms about Chip Kelly cutting Jackson if he thinks it is better for the team and the organization long term. Will his stats be missed this year on the Eagles? probably. Does this mean the Eagles will be any less successful? who knows. But I happen to think all those options were discussed prior to his release. It is not as if the coaches and GM's make these type of decisions without thinking it through. So imho as a Giants fan and as a nuetral I happen to respect Kelly a lot more after making a move like this.
I didn't say anyone was misinformed, I said I have a different opinion.

It's the NFL, players, including guys like Peyton Manning, Darelle Revis, Demarcus Ware, Julius Peppers, Lamar Woodley, Chris Johnson, are cut all the time for a variety of reasons. The HC wanted to go in a different direction and didn't want to invest in Jackson in the long term and decided to part ways.

That's not necessarily a red flag, it's life. One organizations trash can be another organizations treasure. And I'm not spinning anything just because I don't completely buy the negative narrative being sold on Jackson in Philly.

But I'm glad Jackson didn't sign with the Giants as well. So we can at least agree on that.

 
Funny that certain Philly fans have their panties in such a bunch in this thread.

Eagles fans who don't like Jackson should be happy he's no longer on the team but taking parting shots at a guy who produced for your team at a relatively high level for 6 seasons comes across as petty. And the barbs at the Redskins organization and fan base are all well and good. But IMO they seem equally as petty and juvenile.
People are liking the post but I think for the wrong reasons. IMHO all you did was uncover the disconnect with what's been going on in this thread.

The Eagles fans who dislike Jackson ARE happy he's no longer on the team, that part is correct. Everything after that is being taken completly the wrong way by you, and a lot of other here. These aren't parting shots. These are people telling you what to expect. Like having a hot girlfriend and you know she's a little off, has some crazy #### with her and you break up with her only for her to start seeing someone you dislike. You're the new guy who was oblivious to anything until she ended up in your life. You thought you had this great woman, married her, only to start hearing from everyone just how bad she was. You can only do one thing at this point--defend her and your decision to propose and hope it doesnt happen to you.

These arent jealous/petty/juvenille/hater comments...not even close actually.

Maybe Jackson learns from everything that has happened to him and has a Cris Carter type of turnaround. It's happened before. All we can do now is wait and see.
Ok, so all of the pot shots taken at Jackson, the Redskins organization, and the fans, many of which are followed by lmao emoticons are just friendly PSAs to the fans of a division rival on "what to expect?" Sure.....

As a Redskin fan, I expect Jackson to produce on the field similar to how he has over the past 6 seasons when he was THE best in division big play WR in the league. And I expect him to open up the field and create opportunities for others on the offense. I expect this based on watching him play his entire career, including several torchings of the Skins.

I really couldn't care less what your perspective is on what I should expect beyond that or the off the field stuff. It's based mostly on anonymous sources and peoples opinions. And unless you, bigboy, are a member of the Eagles organization then your OPINION on what to expect is just that, and not worth much to me unless it was written on a fresh roll of toilet paper.

IMHO, the negatives on Jackson are being greatly overstated as is the whole team cancer mantra being thrown about. The guy was such a team cancer that the Eagles made the playoffs in 4 of the 6 seasons he was on the team and he was the leading WR on a team that won the division last year with a rookie HC and an unproven QB. Does the guy have some maturity issues to work on? Sure, but I could really care less as long as he produces on the field. A "Cris Carte type turnaround" is not needed because, as far as I know, Jackson does not have a severe alcohol and cocaine problem.

So I don't think I, or the people who liked my post, got anything wrong. We just have very different opinions and perspectives on the situation.
Just out of curiosity, were people really putting "Desean Jackson" and "elite" or "best in the league" in the same sentence before last season? I mean, '11 & '12 were pretty average if not poor. He's always been fast, but "best in the league" big play WR?
I'm not sure what category people were putting Jackson in before last year.

When I said "best in division big play WR in the league" I'm simply referring to the fact that since 2008 Jackson has the most receptions and TDs over 30 yards of any WR in the NFL against in division opponents.

ETA- Below is a link and some editorial comments from some random guy on the internet. The stats are the stats though.

http://statsontapp.com/2014/04/07/the-case-for-desean-jackson-big-play-td-stat/

Here’s a look at the most TDs of 50 yards or more since 2008.

DeSean Jackson… 18

Chris Johnson… 14

Jacoby Jones… 13

Calvin Johnson… 12

Adrian Peterson, Mike Wallace… 10

Victor Cruz, Pierre Garcon, Percy Harvin, Jordy Nelson, DeAngelo Williams, 9

Jamaal Charles, Devin Hester, Greg Jennings, Darren Sprole, 8

So, we can score one for Jackson as the top big play TD threat in the NFL over the past six years. Looking back at the history of the NFL (since the merger of 1970), Jackson holds on spot as one of the top big play TD threats. Since 1970, Jerry Rice holds the number one spot with 38 TDs of 50 yards or more. Looking at the top 15 players on this list, there are two active players… Devin Hester, and, you guessed it, DeSean Jackson. Hester has 22, Jackson 18.

Here are the players with the most TDs of 50 yards of more since 1970.

Jerry Rice, 38

Randy Moss, 32

Terrell Owens, 28

Steve Smith, 24

Ken Burroughs, Joey Gallaway, Devin Hester, 22

Mel Gray, Stanley Morgan, Santana Moss, Freddie Solomon, 20

James Lofton, Eric Metcalf, 19

Willie Gault, DeSean Jackson, 18

 
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The Eagles fans who dislike Jackson ARE happy he's no longer on the team, that part is correct. Everything after that is being taken completly the wrong way by you, and a lot of other here. These aren't parting shots. These are people telling you what to expect. Like having a hot girlfriend and you know she's a little off, has some crazy #### with her and you break up with her only for her to start seeing someone you dislike. You're the new guy who was oblivious to anything until she ended up in your life. You thought you had this great woman, married her, only to start hearing from everyone just how bad she was. You can only do one thing at this point--defend her and your decision to propose and hope it doesnt happen to you.These arent jealous/petty/juvenille/hater comments...not even close actually.

Maybe Jackson learns from everything that has happened to him and has a Cris Carter type of turnaround. It's happened before. All we can do now is wait and see.
That's disingenuous, and I'm being kind. You're here to bash Jackson even though he's been cut. That's why at this point you have 72 posts in this topic, and you'll continue to post negative stuff about him even though your team is rid of him.

It's interesting that you refer to Jackson as a hot girlfriend, with describe yourself as only wanting to inform others about what this "girlfriend" is really like. I mentioned earlier that the Eagle fans who are glad that Jackson is gone and yet who can't stop posting how bad he was are like a stalker ex-spouse.

That description is pretty apt.

 
Funny that certain Philly fans have their panties in such a bunch in this thread.

Eagles fans who don't like Jackson should be happy he's no longer on the team but taking parting shots at a guy who produced for your team at a relatively high level for 6 seasons comes across as petty. And the barbs at the Redskins organization and fan base are all well and good. But IMO they seem equally as petty and juvenile.
People are liking the post but I think for the wrong reasons. IMHO all you did was uncover the disconnect with what's been going on in this thread.

The Eagles fans who dislike Jackson ARE happy he's no longer on the team, that part is correct. Everything after that is being taken completly the wrong way by you, and a lot of other here. These aren't parting shots. These are people telling you what to expect. Like having a hot girlfriend and you know she's a little off, has some crazy #### with her and you break up with her only for her to start seeing someone you dislike. You're the new guy who was oblivious to anything until she ended up in your life. You thought you had this great woman, married her, only to start hearing from everyone just how bad she was. You can only do one thing at this point--defend her and your decision to propose and hope it doesnt happen to you.

These arent jealous/petty/juvenille/hater comments...not even close actually.

Maybe Jackson learns from everything that has happened to him and has a Cris Carter type of turnaround. It's happened before. All we can do now is wait and see.
Ok, so all of the pot shots taken at Jackson, the Redskins organization, and the fans, many of which are followed by lmao emoticons are just friendly PSAs to the fans of a division rival on "what to expect?" Sure.....

As a Redskin fan, I expect Jackson to produce on the field similar to how he has over the past 6 seasons when he was THE best in division big play WR in the league. And I expect him to open up the field and create opportunities for others on the offense. I expect this based on watching him play his entire career, including several torchings of the Skins.

I really couldn't care less what your perspective is on what I should expect beyond that or the off the field stuff. It's based mostly on anonymous sources and peoples opinions. And unless you, bigboy, are a member of the Eagles organization then your OPINION on what to expect is just that, and not worth much to me unless it was written on a fresh roll of toilet paper.

IMHO, the negatives on Jackson are being greatly overstated as is the whole team cancer mantra being thrown about. The guy was such a team cancer that the Eagles made the playoffs in 4 of the 6 seasons he was on the team and he was the leading WR on a team that won the division last year with a rookie HC and an unproven QB. Does the guy have some maturity issues to work on? Sure, but I could really care less as long as he produces on the field. A "Cris Carte type turnaround" is not needed because, as far as I know, Jackson does not have a severe alcohol and cocaine problem.

So I don't think I, or the people who liked my post, got anything wrong. We just have very different opinions and perspectives on the situation.
Just when I thought someone actually used that saying properly, you ruin it.

 
Funny that certain Philly fans have their panties in such a bunch in this thread.

Here's the bottom line(s).

The Eagles decided to cut a guy because, for a number of reasons, he was not in their long term plans and didn't want to pay him $10 mil plus. Good for them, maybe it works out.

The Skins added a player who provides sorely needed big play ability without giving up a draft pick and with a deal that includes a good amount of up front money but by all accounts is very manageable cap wise and allows them to get out without much harm after 2 seasons. Good for us. Hopefully it works out.

And D-Jax got a fair deal with a slightly reduced annual salary but a lot more up front money and it allows him to hit the FA market again as a 30 year old WR. Hopefully it works out for him too.

Eagles fans who don't like Jackson should be happy he's no longer on the team but taking parting shots at a guy who produced for your team at a relatively high level for 6 seasons comes across as petty. And the barbs at the Redskins organization and fan base are all well and good. But IMO they seem equally as petty and juvenile. You guys are having a gay old time bashing the Skins in this thread. And yes, we've been awful for the last 22 years. The Birds have been a much better run franchise over that time period but what do they have to show for it? The great thing about Super Bowl championships is that they are FOREVER. And every team in this division has enjoyed multiple championships while the Eagles have NONE. Just the facts. Gloat all you want that the Skins won 3 games last year and the Eagles won the division. But remember that things change quickly in the NFL as evidenced by the fact that the year before the Eagles won 4 games and the Skins won the division. And talk all you want about FA signings when your dream team efforts from just a few short seasons ago was an epic failure.

As a Skins fan I'm happy that an offense that desperately needed a big play dynamic just added one of the best big play guys in the league and who has been THE best in division big play WR since being in the NFL. He's not perfect by any means but he's 27 and didnt receive an exorbitant long term contract in contrast to our FA signings of the past which gave long term deals to guys on the downside of their career.

We'll see how it plays out when the season starts but some of you fans sure spend a lot of time talking about a guy who is no longer on your team. Why don't you start a new Maclin or Riley Cooper thread or something?
:goodposting: :own3d: :IBTL: /thread
One of the best posts I've ever seen in over a decade at FBGs.

Good to see VaTerp's contributions to the SP again.

Bravo.
Thanks. Really appreciate this considering the source.

 
Time for more Eagles fans to sound bitter. Even though this isnt news and was pretty known, Rotoworld just posted it.

CBS Philadelphia reports DeSean Jackson skipped his end-of-season exit interview with Eagles coach Chip Kelly.

Per reporter Joseph Santoliquito, Jackson was "possibly the only Eagle" to skip his interview. It would be a highly-unusual move, one certain to rankle management. It's never a good look for a team to smear a player on his way out the door, but it's pretty clear things had become untenable between Philly and D-Jax. Both sides needed a change.
I think everyone knows DJax wasn't an angel in Philly. It's just funny that all of these stories are coming out now after he's gone.
From the story:

Jackson topped off his career-breaking season by blowing off Kelly for his exit interview, possibly the only Eagle to do so, according to several sources.
Unnamed sources, story in a Philly news outlet, trashing Jackson. Gee, where do we think the story came from?

The Eagle obsession with Jackson is starting to look at lot like a stalker ex-husband or ex-wife.
Just like all the DC sources that trashed Shanahan which was all BS? Funny how you all act when the tables turn.

 
GoBirds said:
Just like all the DC sources that trashed Shanahan which was all BS? Funny how you all act when the tables turn.
The trashing in DC was trashing of Robert Griffin which was done by Shanahan sending anonymous reports to the press. Let's see if I can come up with another similar example of a team anonymously trashing one of its best players.................

Didn't the Eagles do that to DeSean Jackson?

 
GoBirds said:
Just like all the DC sources that trashed Shanahan which was all BS? Funny how you all act when the tables turn.
The trashing in DC was trashing of Robert Griffin which was done by Shanahan sending anonymous reports to the press. Let's see if I can come up with another similar example of a team anonymously trashing one of its best players.................

Didn't the Eagles do that to DeSean Jackson?
Throw around that excuse whenever it conveniently protects your guys right haha.

 
GoBirds said:
Just like all the DC sources that trashed Shanahan which was all BS? Funny how you all act when the tables turn.
The trashing in DC was trashing of Robert Griffin which was done by Shanahan sending anonymous reports to the press. Let's see if I can come up with another similar example of a team anonymously trashing one of its best players.................

Didn't the Eagles do that to DeSean Jackson?
Throw around that excuse whenever it conveniently protects your guys right haha.
My excuse is that you didn't know what you were talking about regarding the Shanahan leaks.

 
GoBirds said:
Just like all the DC sources that trashed Shanahan which was all BS? Funny how you all act when the tables turn.
The trashing in DC was trashing of Robert Griffin which was done by Shanahan sending anonymous reports to the press. Let's see if I can come up with another similar example of a team anonymously trashing one of its best players.................

Didn't the Eagles do that to DeSean Jackson?
Throw around that excuse whenever it conveniently protects your guys right haha.
My excuse is that you didn't know what you were talking about regarding the Shanahan leaks.
How is it always that something was "leaked" to make a Skins player look bad vs thats just who they are? Maybe all the bad press shanahan got was due to "leaks" from the Skins? He was always great except for when he was with Skins, never seemed like a bad guy before.

 
What will the angry Eagles fans talk about now?

DeSean Jackson has reported to the Redskins' offseason conditioning program.

Jackson drew criticism for skipping the program's first week due to a "previously scheduled vacation," but arrived in Washington on Sunday night and reported to Redskins Park on Monday. The Redskins were aware of Jackson's vacation plans before signing him to a three-year, $24 million contract on April 1.
Source: Washington Post
Apr 14 - 2:53 PM
 
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This is the shark pool. This thread is never going to die. In fact, this is just the beginning. This thread will get bumped regularly for the next couple years guaranteed.

 
Malcolm Jenkins: DeSean Jackson in NFC East a concernBy Chris Wesseling

Around the League Writer

When the DeSean Jackson release went down, the immediate reaction from former Philadelphia Eagles teammates was a collective yawn.Eagles players didn't exactly rally in support, leaving the impression that Jackson's reported me-first attitude and lack of commitment didn't go over well in the locker room.

Now that the smoke has cleared, those in Philadelphia can concede they aren't happy that Jackson landed with a division rival in the Washington Redskins.

Appearing Monday night on NFL Network's "NFL Total Access," safety Malcolm Jenkins acknowledged the Eagles' shaky secondary might have trouble containing the explosive duo of Jackson and Pierre Garcon.

"Once he stayed in the division," Jenkins said, "that's when a little bit of concern comes in."

Playing for the Saints last season, Jenkins explained that Jackson was dangerous enough to dictate New Orleans' coverages in the January playoff matchup. The new Eagles safety admits Jackson could be more imposing with a chip on his shoulder this coming season.

LeSean McCoy and Jenkins aren't the only ones suddenly showing respect for Jackson.

After signing with the Vikings on Monday, former Eagles safety Kurt Coleman told SiriusXM NFL Radio that he "appreciated" Jackson as a great player and "a good guy in the locker room."

"He was one of those guys you wanted to have play every single Sunday because of the explosiveness, the X-factor that he brought," Coleman added. "I think Philadelphia is going to miss him."

The latest edition of the "Around The League Podcast" covers the Aldon Smith arrest and analyzes the offseason movers and shakers in the NFC East and NFC South.
 
Malcolm Jenkins: DeSean Jackson in NFC East a concern

By Chris Wesseling

Around the League Writer

When the DeSean Jackson release went down, the immediate reaction from former Philadelphia Eagles teammates was a collective yawn.

Eagles players didn't exactly rally in support, leaving the impression that Jackson's reported me-first attitude and lack of commitment didn't go over well in the locker room.

Now that the smoke has cleared, those in Philadelphia can concede they aren't happy that Jackson landed with a division rival in the Washington Redskins.

Appearing Monday night on NFL Network's "NFL Total Access," safety Malcolm Jenkins acknowledged the Eagles' shaky secondary might have trouble containing the explosive duo of Jackson and Pierre Garcon.

"Once he stayed in the division," Jenkins said, "that's when a little bit of concern comes in."

Playing for the Saints last season, Jenkins explained that Jackson was dangerous enough to dictate New Orleans' coverages in the January playoff matchup. The new Eagles safety admits Jackson could be more imposing with a chip on his shoulder this coming season.

LeSean McCoy and Jenkins aren't the only ones suddenly showing respect for Jackson.

After signing with the Vikings on Monday, former Eagles safety Kurt Coleman told SiriusXM NFL Radio that he "appreciated" Jackson as a great player and "a good guy in the locker room."

"He was one of those guys you wanted to have play every single Sunday because of the explosiveness, the X-factor that he brought," Coleman added. "I think Philadelphia is going to miss him."

The latest edition of the "Around The League Podcast" covers the Aldon Smith arrest and analyzes the offseason movers and shakers in the NFC East and NFC South.
This is what I'm more concerned with. The loss to our offense may or may not occur. Either way, I think we'll adjust. But we basically handed Washington a pro bowl WR in their prime when they have been desperate for one for years.

 
Malcolm Jenkins: DeSean Jackson in NFC East a concern

By Chris Wesseling

Around the League Writer

When the DeSean Jackson release went down, the immediate reaction from former Philadelphia Eagles teammates was a collective yawn.

Eagles players didn't exactly rally in support, leaving the impression that Jackson's reported me-first attitude and lack of commitment didn't go over well in the locker room.

Now that the smoke has cleared, those in Philadelphia can concede they aren't happy that Jackson landed with a division rival in the Washington Redskins.

Appearing Monday night on NFL Network's "NFL Total Access," safety Malcolm Jenkins acknowledged the Eagles' shaky secondary might have trouble containing the explosive duo of Jackson and Pierre Garcon.

"Once he stayed in the division," Jenkins said, "that's when a little bit of concern comes in."

Playing for the Saints last season, Jenkins explained that Jackson was dangerous enough to dictate New Orleans' coverages in the January playoff matchup. The new Eagles safety admits Jackson could be more imposing with a chip on his shoulder this coming season.

LeSean McCoy and Jenkins aren't the only ones suddenly showing respect for Jackson.

After signing with the Vikings on Monday, former Eagles safety Kurt Coleman told SiriusXM NFL Radio that he "appreciated" Jackson as a great player and "a good guy in the locker room."

"He was one of those guys you wanted to have play every single Sunday because of the explosiveness, the X-factor that he brought," Coleman added. "I think Philadelphia is going to miss him."

The latest edition of the "Around The League Podcast" covers the Aldon Smith arrest and analyzes the offseason movers and shakers in the NFC East and NFC South.
This is what I'm more concerned with. The loss to our offense may or may not occur. Either way, I think we'll adjust. But we basically handed Washington a pro bowl WR in their prime when they have been desperate for one for years.
Yup

 
This is what I'm more concerned with. The loss to our offense may or may not occur. Either way, I think we'll adjust. But we basically handed Washington a pro bowl WR in their prime when they have been desperate for one for years.
They've either been below average or downright weak at WR for years now. Jackson unexpectedly being available, and at a price they can easily afford, was like an unexpected visit from Santa Claus.

Of course with the Redskins' recent record of handling things there's a decent chance they'll screw this up. As a Skins fan I know that. But they've been gifted a very talented WR, I agree with you.

 
This is what I'm more concerned with. The loss to our offense may or may not occur. Either way, I think we'll adjust. But we basically handed Washington a pro bowl WR in their prime when they have been desperate for one for years.
They've either been below average or downright weak at WR for years now. Jackson unexpectedly being available, and at a price they can easily afford, was like an unexpected visit from Santa Claus.

Of course with the Redskins' recent record of handling things there's a decent chance they'll screw this up. As a Skins fan I know that. But they've been gifted a very talented WR, I agree with you.
Every time I think about how much the Skins needed a WR like D Jackson, and how we ended up with him, I keep thinking of this scene from Dogma...

He really did fall from the sky...sort of.

 
Malcolm Jenkins: DeSean Jackson in NFC East a concern

By Chris Wesseling

Around the League Writer

When the DeSean Jackson release went down, the immediate reaction from former Philadelphia Eagles teammates was a collective yawn.

Eagles players didn't exactly rally in support, leaving the impression that Jackson's reported me-first attitude and lack of commitment didn't go over well in the locker room.

Now that the smoke has cleared, those in Philadelphia can concede they aren't happy that Jackson landed with a division rival in the Washington Redskins.

Appearing Monday night on NFL Network's "NFL Total Access," safety Malcolm Jenkins acknowledged the Eagles' shaky secondary might have trouble containing the explosive duo of Jackson and Pierre Garcon.

"Once he stayed in the division," Jenkins said, "that's when a little bit of concern comes in."

Playing for the Saints last season, Jenkins explained that Jackson was dangerous enough to dictate New Orleans' coverages in the January playoff matchup. The new Eagles safety admits Jackson could be more imposing with a chip on his shoulder this coming season.

LeSean McCoy and Jenkins aren't the only ones suddenly showing respect for Jackson.

After signing with the Vikings on Monday, former Eagles safety Kurt Coleman told SiriusXM NFL Radio that he "appreciated" Jackson as a great player and "a good guy in the locker room."

"He was one of those guys you wanted to have play every single Sunday because of the explosiveness, the X-factor that he brought," Coleman added. "I think Philadelphia is going to miss him."

The latest edition of the "Around The League Podcast" covers the Aldon Smith arrest and analyzes the offseason movers and shakers in the NFC East and NFC South.
This is what I'm more concerned with. The loss to our offense may or may not occur. Either way, I think we'll adjust. But we basically handed Washington a pro bowl WR in their prime when they have been desperate for one for years.
Yup
Jenkins totally bashed Dallas in his interview.

 
Malcolm Jenkins: DeSean Jackson in NFC East a concern

By Chris Wesseling

Around the League Writer

When the DeSean Jackson release went down, the immediate reaction from former Philadelphia Eagles teammates was a collective yawn.

Eagles players didn't exactly rally in support, leaving the impression that Jackson's reported me-first attitude and lack of commitment didn't go over well in the locker room.

Now that the smoke has cleared, those in Philadelphia can concede they aren't happy that Jackson landed with a division rival in the Washington Redskins.

Appearing Monday night on NFL Network's "NFL Total Access," safety Malcolm Jenkins acknowledged the Eagles' shaky secondary might have trouble containing the explosive duo of Jackson and Pierre Garcon.

"Once he stayed in the division," Jenkins said, "that's when a little bit of concern comes in."

Playing for the Saints last season, Jenkins explained that Jackson was dangerous enough to dictate New Orleans' coverages in the January playoff matchup. The new Eagles safety admits Jackson could be more imposing with a chip on his shoulder this coming season.

LeSean McCoy and Jenkins aren't the only ones suddenly showing respect for Jackson.

After signing with the Vikings on Monday, former Eagles safety Kurt Coleman told SiriusXM NFL Radio that he "appreciated" Jackson as a great player and "a good guy in the locker room."

"He was one of those guys you wanted to have play every single Sunday because of the explosiveness, the X-factor that he brought," Coleman added. "I think Philadelphia is going to miss him."

The latest edition of the "Around The League Podcast" covers the Aldon Smith arrest and analyzes the offseason movers and shakers in the NFC East and NFC South.
This is what I'm more concerned with. The loss to our offense may or may not occur. Either way, I think we'll adjust. But we basically handed Washington a pro bowl WR in their prime when they have been desperate for one for years.
Yup
Jenkins totally bashed Dallas in his interview.
I know our D is gonna get torched especially the DBs but imagine how bad Dallas D will be losing Ware after already sacking.

 
GoBirds said:
I know our D is gonna get torched especially the DBs but imagine how bad Dallas D will be losing Ware after already sacking.
Very ironic typo...

I agree with you re. the Dallas D being weak, but to be honest, Ware wasn't a huge factor for Dallas last season. There were 52 guys with more sacks than him in 2013...so incrementally, they won't suck that much more than they did last year just because Ware is gone.

 
My take in Djax- it's obvious that Djax and Chip were a match made in heaven. Sucks it had to end, with that said I expect his numbers to finish somewhere between his 10-12 stint and 2013 stint. He takes a hit no doubt but this was probably the second best landing spot. I'm one of the bigger Djax fans you'll find FWIW

 
GoBirds said:
I know our D is gonna get torched especially the DBs but imagine how bad Dallas D will be losing Ware after already sacking.
Very ironic typo...

I agree with you re. the Dallas D being weak, but to be honest, Ware wasn't a huge factor for Dallas last season. There were 52 guys with more sacks than him in 2013...so incrementally, they won't suck that much more than they did last year just because Ware is gone.
Haha good eye.

Didn't they also lose Hatcher to the Skins? Maybe the draft will help but hard to think they will get much better.

 
GoBirds said:
I know our D is gonna get torched especially the DBs but imagine how bad Dallas D will be losing Ware after already sacking.
Very ironic typo...

I agree with you re. the Dallas D being weak, but to be honest, Ware wasn't a huge factor for Dallas last season. There were 52 guys with more sacks than him in 2013...so incrementally, they won't suck that much more than they did last year just because Ware is gone.
Haha good eye.

Didn't they also lose Hatcher to the Skins? Maybe the draft will help but hard to think they will get much better.
Yes, Hatcher is with the Skins now. There wasn't much fanfare when he was signed, but my guess is that his signing (along with the change in defensive strategy) will affect the Skins as much or more than signing Jackson.

edited to add: The change in defensive strategy is to try to pressure the QB more instead of Shanahan's preferred "read and react" system for the D-line and LB's. It's the best way to take pressure off a secondary that sucked.

 
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Something we can all agree on. Dallas' D is not going to be good. If they lose Sean Lee again then may end up being historically bad.

 

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