JohnnyU
Footballguy
I wonder if his injury is more than the bruise. I haven't heard definitively yet.
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WR Drake London, ATL (1 Viewer)
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It’s a PCL sprain
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Will they just shut him down with that 3-7 record? Assuming the losing continues.
GoBirds
Footballguy
That’s a good point….target in trade for playoffs or stay away?
I usually don't expect players getting shut down on losing teams, especially when jobs are on the line, if they can return with multiple weeks left but I do expect extreme extra caution and Rap sheet is one the most optimistic people on reporting injuries so when he throws out the "potentially more" comment I feel like we can bank on that at least. For sure would won't be surprised if he got moved to IR.
LawFitz
Footballguy
PCL and bone bruise for Bowser, and at least the former for Pearsall.
Like you said, different grades to PCL injuries; if anything like their experiences, this could smoke Drake's ROS fantasy prospects. Brutal year for injuries, 2025. :(
dcgangstas
Footballguy
From NBC Sports:
Falcons wide receiver Drake London left Sunday’s loss to the Panthers with a knee injury and word is that he won’t be back for Week 12.
Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that London will not play against the Saints because of a PCL sprain. Per the report, London could miss more games as a result of the injury as well.
London leads the Falcons with 60 catches for 810 yards and six touchdowns this season.
Falcons wide receiver Drake London left Sunday’s loss to the Panthers with a knee injury and word is that he won’t be back for Week 12.
Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that London will not play against the Saints because of a PCL sprain. Per the report, London could miss more games as a result of the injury as well.
London leads the Falcons with 60 catches for 810 yards and six touchdowns this season.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Meh. That was a previous seasons. You apparently have a much higher view of Penix then I do.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
I don't think highly of Penix, I just am looking at the data and the #'s are FAR better with Penix vs. Cousins. That isn't really up for debate.
It's not this year and that's not up for debate either which makes it all worthless info.
He's been the overall WR1 since week 4 with Penix throwing for 230 yards a game. He does not need him, I'm absolutely unmoved by who is the QB throwing to him.
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
Are we guessing London to be out only 1 week or multiple ... only asking as a Guillotine owner down to the final 5. We only have 2 bench spots. Have to cut either McConkey or London as I have Achane on a bye with McConkey.
If London out multiple weeks I have to cut him, if its only 1 week I probably cut McConkey
If London out multiple weeks I have to cut him, if its only 1 week I probably cut McConkey
LawFitz
Footballguy
Now way to know for sure with London due to varying severities, but PCL sprains put Bowser and Pearsall down for several weeks earlier this season.
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
Thanks ... looks like I am dropping London
Sha na na
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
I traded Achane for London and Egbuka last week. WOOF this injury likely closes the door on me making the playoffs in one of my leagues.
the moops
Footballguy
I would not do that
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
So you would drop McConkey instead?
the moops
Footballguy
I have no idea what the rest of your team looks like so I don't know. You gotta have a WR in your bench that is better than any dreg on the waiver wire no?
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
Allen, Maye
Achane (bye), Barkley, Cook, Kyren
Collins, London, Rice, McConkey (bye) DSmith
McBride
Start 10 with only 2 bench spots and Achane gets 1 of those.. Bijan, Gibbs, and Olave top 3
I will get either Gibbs or Robinson I believe and Olave is a coin flip
Achane (bye), Barkley, Cook, Kyren
Collins, London, Rice, McConkey (bye) DSmith
McBride
Start 10 with only 2 bench spots and Achane gets 1 of those.. Bijan, Gibbs, and Olave top 3
I will get either Gibbs or Robinson I believe and Olave is a coin flip
crushedspirit
Footballguy
It's basically over for Drake in 2025, but it was fun while it lasted. Having him and JSN is what kept me in first main keeper league after my RB injuries, but now it will be tough sledding hanging on the last few weeks coming.
Cousins has been deplorable since his injury last season, so expecting something viable even if/when London returns is wishful thinking.
Cousins has been deplorable since his injury last season, so expecting something viable even if/when London returns is wishful thinking.
the moops
Footballguy
How are some of you so sure of this? If it is a mild PCL sprain it may be just 1 week. We have no idea how bad the sprain is and until we know that it would be foolish to dump the #7 rated WR
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I came here to read current updates and found nothing. You’re right, how does anyone know it’s over for London in 2025? That isn’t helpful. Not pointing at you, I agree with you.
zamboni
Footballguy
I think he meant more with Cousins being the QB more so than the injury keeping him out long term. At least that’s what I think he meant - there could be some validity to it, but he’s still going to get fed if he plays.
As for the injury, if it does turn out to be more than a week or two, it’s reasonable to think they may just shut him down and let him recover with the playoffs out of reach.
Hu-Tang Clan
Footballguy
It's like you guys are surprised by what the internet is. When a player gets hurt we get people saying everything from a career is over to possibly playing this week. No one is held accountable for any guesses or comments and we won't ever know the real answer until we see it all played out. I know that's not helpful, but that's where we're at now.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
One could say that about a lot of players. Joe Burrow comes to mind.
zamboni
Footballguy
True although Burrow is on the mend, while London just got hurt. Obviously teams may handle these things differently.
the moops
Footballguy
I mean sure there is validity to the “his stock may take a hit”. That is far different than calling him done. Any WR1, and especially one as good as London, with any starting QB is for sure roster worthy and almost guaranteed start worthy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I’ve heard of it.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
He'll come back from his injury fine, but for me his season is done in the sense of having any quality fantasy relevance with Cousins taking over. Kirk has looked cooked since his injury last season, so I don't see it all of a sudden reversing course at his age. One can disagree with that assessment, and I would be happy to be proven wrong being as I have Drake shares in all leagues, including my main keeper. Heck, maybe some flex appeal would be a positive development.
Hopefully that's more clear.
Hopefully that's more clear.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Diversify. I don’t like having a player in every league for this very reason. Perhaps having a dart throw in every league is fine, but when high draft picks go down it is devastating if you have them in every league.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
I do agree for the most part, but it was very hard to pass up London and JSN this year. I diversified my RB situation much more across the board, but those two are on all rosters at WR.
In redraft the hit is not as bad as the keeper situation, where first is now going to be precarious since I had to navigate waivers to cover for Worthy, Nabers, and Pearsall at WR, not to mention Irving and Benson as well at RB.
Anyways for those who want Drake updates follow Josh Kendall.
the moops
Footballguy
Disagree. He very likely is not a WR1 but he most certainly can still be relevant even with Cousins. Someone still has to catch the ball
I’m holding out hope as well, but it’s surprisingly hard to find any case where a skill player had a PCL injury and successfully returned after 1-2 weeks. I’ve searched all over, and they seem to all be over 4 weeks.
Maybe I’m looking at this with rose colored glasses but London’s injury looked very mild compared to Pearsall and Puka PCL injury, the way their knees slammed into the turf. So maybe his is truly Grade 1.
Biggest risk seems to be re-injury, which possibly isn’t a risk the Falcons are willing to take in a lost season. Per my understanding, Puka, Bowers, and Julio all missed more time due to re-injury than the initial injury. Even Pearsall came into that game he left being questionable with a knee issue. They never explicitly said it was a PCL issue when he missed practice, but perhaps the injury we all saw was not a first time injury.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Even if 4 weeks, if you can survive and make playoffs and win week 15, you could still have him weeks 16 and 17. If he misses 3 weeks you could have him for the entire playoffs.
:glasshalffullguy:
the moops
Footballguy
London has been a stud with and without Mooney. I think that entire narrative is completely overrated. Mooney has zero double digit fantasy games this year, he is not that good and has little impact on London's value
There are levels to things so just saying London’s been a stud with Mooney does not really tell the whole story. It’s the difference in being A WR1 or THE WR1.
When Mooney has not been active or healthy it’s had a tremendous impact on Londons target share.
That’s not an analysis. It’s the numbers. The only difficult part to quantify is how healthy was Mooney in some games.
How good Mooney is doing on his targets is of zero relevance.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
There is hope they get him back week 13.
According to the Internet.
Optimus FF News (@news.optimusfantasy.com)
UPDATE: The Falcons are "hopeful" Drake London (knee) can play in Week 13. [contains quote post or other embedded content]
bsky.app
Cousins locks in on him at a similar level though that's more of a discussion for this year, which I'll elaborate on next.
As I posted above I see difference when Mooney is active and healthy vs not. Mooney never missed game when Cousins was the starting QB and had London available. Mooney missed 3 games with Penix as the QB and London was available and he had a ridiculous 15,16 and 18 targets in those 3 games. One of which was last year, two this season.
There are other games Mooney was active but limited by his health and that's a grey area I'll avoid for now as it's to subjective.
But just raw numbers on last two years if you look at games Mooney was not active this is how it looks:
With Cousins as the starter: 8.42 targets a game
With Penix as the starter: 9.33 targets a game
There are additional considerations such as when Cousins was the starter they were both in year one of a new system and I think that's relative because last year things started slow with Cousins and targets to London and picked up considerably.
Next year is probably going to have a lot of changes. Can't see Cousins back. They might have a whole house cleaning and even if not the OC seems like he might take the OK St job. So who knows how next year will look. All we know is London is good, Penix will be back at some point if not the opener, and they don't have a first round draft pick and are unlikely to make a big move at receiver so however it looks it's hard to not see London at least getting that 9 target a game range.
RaidersAreOne
Footballguy
Well hurry up and change to "O" on ESPN so I can move him to IR.
BlackCrowes
Footballguy
Got Olave for him
Skipdog77
Footballguy
I'm "hopeful" I'll win the Powerball lottery. That's not very helpful.There is hope they get him back week 13.
According to the Internet.
Optimus FF News (@news.optimusfantasy.com)
UPDATE: The Falcons are "hopeful" Drake London (knee) can play in Week 13. [contains quote post or other embedded content]
