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WR Elic Ayomanor, TEN (1 Viewer)
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Faust
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: Here’s 2 minutes of some of his best plays of the season 
rockaction
Footballguy
Really dig this dude's game. Heard more than one person compliment his route running.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
RAS scores from recent WR . . .
Isaiah Weston - 10.00
Adonai Mitchell - 9.97
Brian Thomas - 9.97
Christian Watson - 9.96
Bryce Ford-Wheaton - 9.96
Kevin Austin, Jr. - 9.93
Jonathan Mingo - 9.93
Xavier Leggette - 9.92
Andrei Iosias - 9.92
Matt Landers - 9.91
Rome Odunze - 9.91
Cornelius Johnson - 9.91
Devontez Walker - 9.97
Alec Pierce - 9.80
Tyquan Thornton - 9.78
Ryan Flournoy - 9.77
Bub Means - 9.70
I get that you are just posting info as you come across it about a lot of players (much appreciated). But RAS is just another analytical tool to blend in with all the other metrics and analytical tools, which as we all know, when blended all together can make things as clear as mud.
Faust
MVP
rockaction
Footballguy
I'm looking upthread and I like this guy's game, apparently. I also liked Antonio Gandy-Golden coming out of Liberty back in 2020. I think I took him in the mid-to-late third of a rookie draft. He was so slow they tried to make him a tight end in his second or third year. Now Ayomanor isn't slow, but damn sometimes I have a penchant for picking not-so-great professionals that look faster than they are.
Best of luck to Ayomanor. I heard his quarterbacking was a real problem at Stanford. Always hate to see a guy fall in the draft and never get the chance just because his college quarterback was inadequate. I mean, your QB isn't so great so your production drops, you don't have the draft capital that determines (to a pretty substantial degree) your practice reps and playing time, never mind your contract status from the draft slotting; so you're behind in the race to get better and improve in the professional ranks and your money and job security is hampered, etc. All because your college QB that you had nothing to do with selecting, recruiting, or attracting to come to the university can't support a quality wideout.
The whole thing stinks, and the beat goes on.
Best of luck to Ayomanor. I heard his quarterbacking was a real problem at Stanford. Always hate to see a guy fall in the draft and never get the chance just because his college quarterback was inadequate. I mean, your QB isn't so great so your production drops, you don't have the draft capital that determines (to a pretty substantial degree) your practice reps and playing time, never mind your contract status from the draft slotting; so you're behind in the race to get better and improve in the professional ranks and your money and job security is hampered, etc. All because your college QB that you had nothing to do with selecting, recruiting, or attracting to come to the university can't support a quality wideout.
The whole thing stinks, and the beat goes on.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
I def like that stat in the second twitter post, but was interesting to have Ayomanor as the call out associated with it. He is 100% not going in the 1st round of the NFL draft. And it's few and far between sources at this point post-combine where you see him projected to go in the second round. So an interesting stat that feels like the odds are very against ever pertaining to Ayomanor.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah thought he would go day 2. I think his issues with his hands must have really been concerning because his size, athleticism and grit were all pretty good.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
Great landing spot; but I'm still low on him. And after seeing at least 5 "look what he did against Travis Hunter in this game!" articles/blurbs post-draft, I'm convinced much of his hype is derived from that one game he beat up on a sophmore CB who was not at all special, but happened to blossom into a phenom and Heisman winner the following year. I guarantee were he to have played against Hunter again in 2024, the results would have been very different.
He's an X WR who is bad against press, bad against zone, has poor short area quickness, long speed is there but needs a runway, and worse of all are the drops. Waldman and Harmon both touched on this, and you can see it on tape. He's another clapper. And going by what Waldman says, poor hands technique is one of the most difficult problems to change and overcome late in development. Better be sleeping next to a Jugs machine.
He's an X WR who is bad against press, bad against zone, has poor short area quickness, long speed is there but needs a runway, and worse of all are the drops. Waldman and Harmon both touched on this, and you can see it on tape. He's another clapper. And going by what Waldman says, poor hands technique is one of the most difficult problems to change and overcome late in development. Better be sleeping next to a Jugs machine.
titusbramble
Footballguy
Picked up in the fourth round of rookie draft. Probably a long shot but can stick him on taxi this season and if it looks like it's working I get the stack with Ward so seems worth the risk
There seems to be those that overstate how good he is due to the Hunter game and those that want to say he's terrible as almost a counter to it. You seem to be in this one man.
He didn't get drafted because he's bad against most Ds and has trouble catching the ball
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Once you get past the glorious gazelles that run so beautifully for their size and have baseball mitts for hands...most don't pan out for FF.
This is what I want.
The criticisms can get absurd and the praise can be way too much.
Give me a guy that gets to work and people talk about his route running.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
I shouldn't need to preface every post with the same disclaimer about how anyone getting drafted in the NFL is obviously in the top .1% of performers in this sport. But... there you go.
You disagree, that's fine. But you literally quoted my post where I explained some of the reasons why I don't like him, so your claim that it's only a counter to people hyping the Hunter game makes zero sense.
I saw the same things other analysts charted and saw; he is below average against zone and press coverages. Especially for being a bigger guy, he got manhandled at the line a lot. That's important for an X receiver, as is the fact he was barely over 50% in contested catch success rate, and had a 6.8% drop rate. And I think those last two stats are what they are because he alligator's a lot of catches rather than creating a window/pocket and guiding it in. And to me, I tend to shy away from taking WRs who have issues with their hands.
Feel free to disregard my analysis, or any other analysts pointing these things out as well. I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first or last time. But you didn't even counter anything I said, just set up a strawman and put words in my mouth, as I never called him terrible. You're coming off as a guy who just took him in a rookie draft last night and checked his player page today and got upset I said something negative about him. He's a fourth round WR, and they historically have a 4.4% chance of having even one top 24 finish in their careers going by what I reference. But feel free to google yourself on round 4+ hit rates and see what you come up with. You add that with the drops issues and I don't think anything I said was that outlandish that would qualify me as some kind of Ayomanor hater.
If you say your opinion with enough conviction, that'll make it true!
Ayo and Restrepo have been doing very well (along with Oliver). Reporters are pointing out polish and dedication to craft and...usual things for rookies in shorts that look like they're veterans.
Callahan continues to overstate and misstate the production of slot WRs in Cincy. (They've always stunk in TEN) We are all well aware of Tyler Boyd's career and how little he did in Tennessee last year. Higgins and Chase have moved to the slot and been prolific- no doubt- but every time he says slot WR I'm getting frustrated. Nonetheless...let's suppose he wants a mindset of interchangeable parts and wants the slot to be considered a valuable spot and this is all
fluff to change a culture about a position.
The Titans seem to not be considering any WR exclusive at any spot.
As they installed Miami's basic base (not uncommon!) offense with some of their own, reporters noted the staff was moving everyone everywhere. No learning curve just know all the spots.
Ayo has been noteworthy for initiating contact with DBs and dude it's practice in shorts. He grew up in Canada and played hockey as a fun past time and it's annoying defenders.
My guess is the boy is gonna be one of the first one's hit when they're allowed to. Otherwise...I don't care. I like guys working hard. Deal with it. Push back. Whatever.
His detailed route running was a noteworthy mention in all his draft writeups and both he and Repo are catching everyone's eyes. One reporter zoomed in on feet and played videos and I thought this was a simple cool technique for observation. They're light on their feet and quick to pivot and the Titans have like 4-5 guys doing this great and the rest...oof. Does it matter? Idk but for shorts practices it's pretty interesting.
Callahan continues to overstate and misstate the production of slot WRs in Cincy. (They've always stunk in TEN) We are all well aware of Tyler Boyd's career and how little he did in Tennessee last year. Higgins and Chase have moved to the slot and been prolific- no doubt- but every time he says slot WR I'm getting frustrated. Nonetheless...let's suppose he wants a mindset of interchangeable parts and wants the slot to be considered a valuable spot and this is all
fluff to change a culture about a position.The Titans seem to not be considering any WR exclusive at any spot.
As they installed Miami's basic base (not uncommon!) offense with some of their own, reporters noted the staff was moving everyone everywhere. No learning curve just know all the spots.
Ayo has been noteworthy for initiating contact with DBs and dude it's practice in shorts. He grew up in Canada and played hockey as a fun past time and it's annoying defenders.
My guess is the boy is gonna be one of the first one's hit when they're allowed to. Otherwise...I don't care. I like guys working hard. Deal with it. Push back. Whatever.
His detailed route running was a noteworthy mention in all his draft writeups and both he and Repo are catching everyone's eyes. One reporter zoomed in on feet and played videos and I thought this was a simple cool technique for observation. They're light on their feet and quick to pivot and the Titans have like 4-5 guys doing this great and the rest...oof. Does it matter? Idk but for shorts practices it's pretty interesting.
