WR Elijah Moore, BUF (2 Viewers)

[Ministry of Pain]

elijah doolittle is my nickname here. if his besty is aj brown, than he needs to find a new besty, cause this advise was brutal on so many levels. honestly, i hope they make him inactive the rest of the year. i’ll eat his pick loss given the 2022 draft class. send a message to this team that no matter who you are and your draft number, you are expendable.

X​

try again Amnesia X

2021-Rookie Year, only started 6 games and there were rumors he wasn't all that hurt when they shut him down, he was balling.

6 of 6 targets 67 yds
7 of 8 targets 84 yds and 2 Touchdowns
3 of 6 targets 44 yds and a Touchdown
8 of 11 targets 141 yds and a Touchdown
6 of 12 targets 77 yds and a Touchdown

It's odd they drafted Wilson in the 1st, what was their plan for Moore?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Obituary reads
Elijah Moore, Crucified on a Friday Afternoon

I knew he was disgruntled, I can understand the fan base turning their backs after he demands a trade.
NFL careers are short and he was being led to believe he was a No 1 on that team, they draft a guy in the 1st and he deals with it, I saw a potential Chase-Higgins pairing here, Moore is very talented and I think if you all were 22 yrs old, he didn't grow up rooting for the New York Jets like all of you, try and remember that as you keep driving the nails into him.

 

[Capella]

he comes off as a guy that would rather lose with numbers than win. that’s a bad look for anyone. no surprise with buddies like metcalf and brown in his ear.

Metcalf chased down a corner like secretariat last year when he absolutely didn’t have to, he doesn’t seem like a me first guy at all.

 

[rockaction]

Obituary reads
Elijah Moore, Crucified on a Friday Afternoon

I can't believe the historical hyperbole here. I can't believe it got two likes.

Nobody is "crucifying" anybody. He's being told to sit down and shut up.

This is probably the poorest analogy this side of calling politicians "Hitler" when they don't deserve it. Sheesh, this was an awful take, MoP.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Wondering why someone would say they want off the Jets? Are people wondering?

They are winning? Come on. How long you expect that to keep up?

There's much evidence that this team is a mess.

If you’re paying attention there’s much more evidence that the team is loaded with young talent and is heading in the right direction. Get your shots in now because opportunities are drying up.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

They're getting a bit ahead of ourselves. Quite a bit.

What are they doing?

 

[Dr. Octopus]

It's odd they drafted Wilson in the 1st

What’s odd about surrounding a young QB with weapons. Was it odd when the Phins traded for Hill when they had Waddle?

 

[Boston]

As some who despises the Jets, I give them credit for how they are handling this...it sends a message they may actually be turning the corner instead of being the same old jets.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

It’s Mims time to shine!

 

[Todem]

Doesn't his role contract go through 2024? Seems odd to request a trade when you haven't done anything also.

Me me me generation.

STFU Mr second year WR on a team that is winning. Keep grinding and either you will carve out a role and if not….you will be free at some point.

This imo is ridiculous and a distraction on a team that is currently young and winning football games.

Pure selfishness and it looks terrible.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

he was being led to believe he was a No 1 on that team

Do you have a link?

 

[Mister CIA]

I'm a Elijah Moore truther and I don't want to inject myself into team politics and religion where I'm an outsider ... wait for it ... but it strikes me that the root problem here is Zach Wilson can't play without training wheels. Maybe that's the nerve Moore struck the hardest with the coach.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'm a Elijah Moore truther and I don't want to inject myself into team politics and religion where I'm an outsider ... wait for it ... but it strikes me that the root problem here is Zach Wilson can't play without training wheels. Maybe that's the nerve Moore struck the hardest with the coach.

Why does everyone base everything off one game where the Jets D and running game was dominant?
The game before against Miami, Zach was throwing the ball all over the place.
Last week was his 16th NFL game. While they will protect him, as they should, last week isn’t likely to be the norm. They will need to air it out some weeks.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

but it strikes me that the root problem here is Zach Wilson can't play without training wheels.

I find this to be wildly inaccurate. Zach Wilson is a capable young QB.

The Jets seem to play a “keep running until they stop us” style of football - and it’s working.

A lot of good teams have followed this formula, and a lot of bad teams should be trying to emulate it. See: AZ on TNF where they almost let the Saints back into the game because they kept throwing all willynilly instead of trying to kill any clock. Without 2x pick-6’s I’m not sure they win that game at all, and considering the Saints had no starting secondary after Roby went down, that’s a sad statement.

Hell, the 85 Bears & the 2001 Ravens each won Super Bowls this way. And IMO Zach Wilson is potentially a better QB than either Jim MacMahon or Trent Dilfer. He certainly has more upside than either, given his mobility, instincts and arm strength.

This is a dude in his 2nd year, when his 1st was marred by COVID absences, no preseason, and the untimely passing of Greg Roman, who was brought in specifically to develop him. This year he had the knee sprain that cost him the 1st month of the season.

I’d say given the circumstances, the Jets are very smart to limit Wilson early on. I expect things to open up when 1. Wilson is a bit more seasoned, and 2. When opponents actually do manage to stop their run game.

And as @Dr. Octopus points out, the Miami game sure looked like a training wheel-less Wilson to me, but I’m just a dude watching football, not a big fancy FF expert.

I’d say the Jets are way ahead of schedule. And I’m happy to see it.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Elijah came out of college averaging over 10 catches a game in his final season at Ole Miss. He is used to having the ball and probably knows he has been open enough to receive the ball. He is a young player himself who probably has AJ Brown chirping about setting up your next contract to him and is most likely also genuinely upset about not contributing. I would guess he sits this week and then it is business as usual. As mentioned, Wilson barely has a season of field experience under his belt. He will most likely improve in the passing game but for now (as they should) the Jets are managing the game carefully. When winning why would you do anything different? This smoke will disappear and the Jets will have games where they need to air it out more. They will also most likely try to get Elijah a little more involved on some easy throws as he is a good young talent that needs to continue to develop.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Elijah came out of college averaging over 10 catches a game in his final season at Ole Miss. He is used to having the ball and probably knows he has been open enough to receive the ball. He is a young player himself who probably has AJ Brown chirping about setting up your next contract to him and is most likely also genuinely upset about not contributing. I would guess he sits this week and then it is business as usual. As mentioned, Wilson barely has a season of field experience under his belt. He will most likely improve in the passing game but for now (as they should) the Jets are managing the game carefully. When winning why would you do anything different? This smoke will disappear and the Jets will have games where they need to air it out more. They will also most likely try to get Elijah a little more involved on some easy throws as he is a good young talent that needs to continue to develop.

Moore has a chance to be a big part of this offense. Wilson is still growing as a QB, and while it’s possible he never takes that next step, the Jets are playing this correctly. Either Wilson steps up or the next rookie/free agent QB walks into a pretty nice setup.

Moore is at worst the second most talented WR on the roster. His time will come as the offense opens up. The Jets are playing well but in the modern NFL a strong defense and running game only gets you as far as the current Patriots. The young QBs need to grow and become the focal point of the offense. Moore is a valuable piece of the future. He has time to earn the next contract.

 

[SayWhat?]

The game before against Miami, Zach was throwing the ball all over the place. Last week was his 16th NFL game. While they will protect him, as they should, last week isn’t likely to be the norm. They will need to air it out some weeks.

What? He had 21 attempts. Twenty-one! And 14 completions. Fourteen!! Throwing the ball all over the place? No. Not even close. He’s a fantasy killer, as the Jets don’t trust him to throw the ball all over the place because, ya know, when he throws that’s literally what has happened through those first 16 games.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The game before against Miami, Zach was throwing the ball all over the place. Last week was his 16th NFL game. While they will protect him, as they should, last week isn’t likely to be the norm. They will need to air it out some weeks.

What? He had 21 attempts. Twenty-one! And 14 completions. Fourteen!! Throwing the ball all over the place? No. Not even close. He’s a fantasy killer, as the Jets don’t trust him to throw the ball all over the place because, ya know, when he throws that’s literally what has happened through those first 16 games.

I’m not going to argue really (frankly these boards have become exhausting) but if you watched the game he was making throws all over the field. You are free to believe whatever you want, doesn’t affect me.

 

[menobrown]

One thing I'd add on Moore is that we don't know what goes on in team meetings, the game plan preparation for the week. Obviously we see the games and we see that Moore's been cast as more of a deeper route runner, Jets are winning, no need to throw a lot, etc,etc.

Just wondering what if the weekly game plan install is one that Moore has not been thinking involves him enough? I started to think of this because before this blowup I have not heard a lot of talk from Jets coaches about stuff like "we realize we got to get him the ball more often". I might have missed it, just can't recall hearing it. But this week I did hear LaFleur talk about how they were working on some things with Garrett Wilson to get HIM back on track. The other thing is it would appear the coaches had a talk with Moore before sending him home and his trade demand. Most of the time you'd think those talks would placate the player, he'd be loved up by the staff, told he was important and that they'd work to involve him more. I have no idea what was or was not discussed but whatever it was it seemed to make the situation worse. So again just has me wondering if this is more then just lack of game usage because of the routes and Jets not needing to pass as much, if Moore has just not been feeling like the staff values him enough and/or he just thinks they were to quick to anoint a rookie WR as the top guy and relegate his standing on the offense.

 

[Moniker]

Obituary reads
Elijah Moore, Crucified on a Friday Afternoon

I can't believe the historical hyperbole here. I can't believe it got two likes.

Nobody is "crucifying" anybody. He's being told to sit down and shut up.

This is probably the poorest analogy this side of calling politicians "Hitler" when they don't deserve it. Sheesh, this was an awful take, MoP.

No, you're saying to sit down and shut up, which is fine. Chemical X is saying to bench him for the rest of the season, eat the 2nd round pick and send a 'message'. So, yeah, crucifying.

 

[Chemical X]

elijah doolittle is my nickname here. if his besty is aj brown, than he needs to find a new besty, cause this advise was brutal on so many levels. honestly, i hope they make him inactive the rest of the year. i’ll eat his pick loss given the 2022 draft class. send a message to this team that no matter who you are and your draft number, you are expendable.

X​

try again Amnesia X

2021-Rookie Year, only started 6 games and there were rumors he wasn't all that hurt when they shut him down, he was balling.

6 of 6 targets 67 yds
7 of 8 targets 84 yds and 2 Touchdowns
3 of 6 targets 44 yds and a Touchdown
8 of 11 targets 141 yds and a Touchdown
6 of 12 targets 77 yds and a Touchdown

It's odd they drafted Wilson in the 1st, what was their plan for Moore?

jets went 2-4 in that stretch and their 4 losses were by a combined 65 points.

i can argue to you that michael carter had a better rookie year than moore and the jets went out and got breece hall, so carter coulda theoretically pitched a fit here, the same as moore. instead, he went and acted like a professional. the goal with the jets drafting wilson is that their receiving corps has been just awful recently and guys like davis, crowder, berrios won’t win in this league. they need to draft and accumulate skill position players, something they have sorely lacked. one of the reasons they have been a laughing stock. crowder was let go and davis may go after this year based on the cap hit of $11mm in 2023 vs a 667k dead cap if they release him. then they have their 2 main guys. are the jets not allowed to draft skills guys because guys are already rostered? moore had some nice games on a 4-13 mess. now after 2 nice wins, by a combined 40 points he comes out and whines? like i said, it reeks of a guy that would rather lose with numbers than win. i mean, he’s 17 games into his career with a qb that just made his 16th nfl start? let the season play out a little and then make your plan known. coming out in public and throwing a tantrum at practice and being sent home on a 3 game winning streak seems like odd , but maybe that’s just todays athlete. hill comes over and waddle doesn’t pout. jefferson overtakes thielen and i don’t hear a scream.

 

[rockaction]

So, yeah, crucifying.

Way to dumb down a word. Good work, moniker. You of all people that should know that names and definitions are important given your handle.

Crucify. That's the dumbest thing I've heard on this board. SIt down and shut up <> crucify. Think about it in historical and political context. I would say get back to me, but I'm not sure I want to bother, so don't get back to me after you've thought about who was crucified and what it meant for Western history.

Elijah Moore was crucified in the Shark Pool.

How dumb.

 

[rockaction]

Really. That other people liked that post is galling, especially those that should know better.

 

[rockaction]

****ship is magic.

 

[rockaction]

Cool Hand Luke was probably the dumbest movie I've ever seen. Let's have a petty criminal eat a lot of eggs and put him in a Jesus Christ pose as much as we can.

CAN'T YOU SEE YOU'RE CRUCIFYING COOL HAND LUKE????!!!!!!!!

Stupid people have stupid thoughts.

 

[eighsse2]

So, yeah, crucifying.

Way to dumb down a word. Good work, moniker. You of all people that should know that names and definitions are important given your handle.

Crucify. That's the dumbest thing I've heard on this board. SIt down and shut up <> crucify. Think about it in historical and political context. I would say get back to me, but I'm not sure I want to bother, so don't get back to me after you've thought about who was crucified and what it meant for Western history.

Elijah Moore was crucified in the Shark Pool.

How dumb.

I'm torn on this one. I agree that the reference is a grave exaggeration and probably something that shouldn't be touched even in metaphor. But hyperbole is used pretty frequently, here and basically everywhere else. But I agree that it's at -- nay, beyond -- the level of Hitler metaphors.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Obituary reads
Elijah Moore, Crucified on a Friday Afternoon

I can't believe the historical hyperbole here. I can't believe it got two likes.

Nobody is "crucifying" anybody. He's being told to sit down and shut up.

This is probably the poorest analogy this side of calling politicians "Hitler" when they don't deserve it. Sheesh, this was an awful take, MoP.

Love the new avatar

 

[rockaction]

Love the new avatar

Thanks. It's an avatar from an old homie of mine, long since gone on the boards.

 

[rockaction]

ou should have read his thoughts on mental health.

I wasn't talking about the board, I was talking about the creators of Cool Hand Luke. I'm sorry I didn't make that clearer.

I wasn't insulting MoP, just disagreeing with his usage. I was calling the creator of Cool Hand Luke stupid, though he'd probably ace me in an IQ test or something like that.

I failed the Rorschach when they gave it to me, so my standardized test-taking in all things is suspect.

 

[rockaction]

Maybe that's the nerve Moore struck the hardest with the coach.

I doubt it. The nerve he probably struck was one that says "winning is everything" and other such slogans and the like. Everybody knows that Wilson is being limited. That's really not some earth-shattering news.

Jets get Brett Rypien and a tough Denver D tomorrow. Let's see what they do with it. Let's see how all the naysayers react to either outcome (W or L). This should be interesting. The Jets, no doubt, are the talk of the AFC for whatever reason. They just find themselves there. Let's see how it works for them. Already we have priva diva donnas like Elijah Moore being told to get with the program or go home.

Go home, son. Watch from the sidelines and tweet with AJB.

By the way, that's why I got rid of AJB and Javonte for the 1.01, Sutton, and Metcalf. I didn't like AJB's attitude and I thought Javonte ran too hard for the NFL and would get hurt. I thought Breece would be better than Javonte. Hmmm...

Backpat.

Back to the thread. Go home, Elijah.

 

[foxco]

Yeah but that trademark Newman smile totally redeems the movie IMO.

 

[Moniker]

So, yeah, crucifying.

Way to dumb down a word. Good work, moniker. You of all people that should know that names and definitions are important given your handle.

Crucify. That's the dumbest thing I've heard on this board. SIt down and shut up <> crucify. Think about it in historical and political context. I would say get back to me, but I'm not sure I want to bother, so don't get back to me after you've thought about who was crucified and what it meant for Western history.

Elijah Moore was crucified in the Shark Pool.

How dumb.

So... you didn't actually read what I typed. Good job.

Try again and show me where I said sit down and shut up was crucifying. Or just drop it once you get out of 'arguing for arguing's sake' mode and realize I never said that and actually said sit down and shut up is fine

 

[heckmanm]

Yeah but that trademark Newman smile totally redeems the movie IMO.

Also the car wash scene

 

[rockaction]

So... you didn't actually read what I typed. Good job.

I did read it. My reading comp must be down. Sorry about that. I get now that you were separating what I said from Chem X. That said, I don't see anywhere where what Chem X said approaches crucifying, either.

 

[rockaction]

Yeah but that trademark Newman smile totally redeems the movie IMO.

:golfclap:

Well played, sir.

 

[The Big Donkey]

Yeah but that trademark Newman smile totally redeems the movie IMO.

Also the car wash scene

Shut your mouth about my Lucille.

 

[Uncle Leo]

He is being a selfish dude. Simple as that. The team is winning. That’s what matters.

 

[rockaction]

Jesus Christ Pose

 

[panhead55]

Yeah but that trademark Newman smile totally redeems the movie IMO.

As a point of reference I'm 71. The other day I'm in the grocery store and a couple of older teen age girls are looking at salad dressing and one asks rhetorically "who is the Newman guy". I walked away chuckling.

 

[rockaction]

Yeah but that trademark Newman smile totally redeems the movie IMO.

As a point of reference I'm 71. The other day I'm in the grocery store and a couple of older teen age girls are looking at salad dressing and one asks rhetorically "who is the Newman guy". I walked away chuckling.

You should have told her it’s the guy who makes a mean Arnold Palmer.

 

[rockaction]

Arnold Palmer? Who’s that? What’s that? That that?

Stupid teenage girls. Get off of my pony.

 

[The Big Donkey]

As a point of reference I'm 71. The other day I'm in the grocery store and a couple of older teen age girls are looking at salad dressing and one asks rhetorically "who is the Newman guy". I walked away chuckling.

when i get frozen pizza, which is infrequent. i get Newmans.

 

[Chemical X]

Obituary reads
Elijah Moore, Crucified on a Friday Afternoon

I can't believe the historical hyperbole here. I can't believe it got two likes.

Nobody is "crucifying" anybody. He's being told to sit down and shut up.

This is probably the poorest analogy this side of calling politicians "Hitler" when they don't deserve it. Sheesh, this was an awful take, MoP.

No, you're saying to sit down and shut up, which is fine. Chemical X is saying to bench him for the rest of the season, eat the 2nd round pick and send a 'message'. So, yeah, crucifying.

well, i don’t know if i’m saying sit him the rest of the year, but if the dude doesn’t want to be here and his head isn’t into it, i can’t risk playing a guy with questionable motives. i am sure if he sits the rest of the way i can get a pick back in the off-season, maybe round 4-5. like i said, i don’t see this guy now or in the near future bringing back a 1 or 2 like other posters. so, may as well sit him a bit, give mims some run and see what sticks.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I have a buddy in his 70s, we play tennis together and he is from New York from the Joe Namath era and I known this guy is not full of it, very well connected to the Jets and I have on very good authority thru his connections that the Jets are NOT MAD at Moore, I want to stress this because they didn't put him thru the ringer, more like a teenager when you have to take something dangerous out of their hands for their own good or well being. I think the Jets have handled this perfectly from my POV and I'd like the opp to explain my reasoning since so many were ready to crucify the guy.

-The Jets did not leak any negative comments or vibrations thru Twitter, FB, Click Clack and all the other platforms, they kept things in house and didn't allow the narrative to take off. Think of the old man in Shawshank when he tells Andy in the Library about how Warden's butt puckers up anytime they try and ask for a nickel to make things more palatable inside the prison. That sounds goofy but what I am trying to say is rather than shoot down his ideas or his desires, they are trying to redirect that back into the team and not let this carry out in the media, I applaud the jets for treating Moore with more dignity than I have seen other teams when these situations pop up.

-I believe when Moore returns next week that the media will accept him, he will make a light apology with a spin of "I just want to contribute and help this team win, I didn't mean to be any kind of distraction" and there's a hundred things he can say and the Jets can spin this positive.

I get the fan base getting salty since they are 4-2 and this selfish prima donna WR wants the ball more and you just won 3 games in a row!!! I get it I get I get it and I'm on your side believe it or not BUT this could have gone so poorly and i now think you all heave a legit shot to crap all over Denver later today.

This will be water under the bridge by next week or the Jets will just quietly trade him, but even if they do decide to part ways with him, by getting Moore to calm down and not get fussy, they might actually gain more leverage if teams call them for a trade..."We don't have any problems with Moore, problems you say, what problems?"

-The Jets are putting on a clinic of how you handle the new modern athlete, I attribute it to Saleh who is a player's coach from all accounts, most guys love him and I'll be he has some inspiring words for Elijah and instead of pounding down on him, Saleh is turning that into something positive.

I fired up a lot of the jets fan base. i understand I use explosive words sometimes to get a reaction but I am not the least bit sorry for what I wrote, it was based on the fan base vs the Jets organization which I think is doing a tremendous job right now.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

With Swift out, my best starting option is (gasp) Mims.

Good timing I guess, but such a dart throw.

 

[Chemical X]

gotta figure drake london and kyle pitts will demand trades. maybe james robinson.

think we need a thread here for who should demand a trade…./

 

[Uncle Leo]

Elijah might have point. Zach Wilson is terrible.

 

[Chemical X]

Elijah might have point. Zach Wilson is terrible.

in his defense, he didn’t have elijah moore to throw to.

 

[Faust]

Around the NFL reports that WR Elijah Moore has returned to the team facility and is expected to be active in Week 8 against the Patriots.​

Moore missed Week 7 after requesting a trade, but that request was denied and Moore is now back with the Jets. HC Robert Saleh told reporters that he is expected to play against the Patriots. Moore's fantasy status remains shaky, however, with Zach Wilson barely supporting any production in the passing game and about to face a Bill Belichick defense. Moore shakes up as a long-shot bet in Week 8 even with Corey Davis currently dealing with a minor knee injury.
SOURCE: Around the NFL on Twitter
Oct 24, 2022, 3:53 PM ET

 

[Faust]

Jets head coach Robert Saleh said he doesn't know if Elijah Moore still wants to be traded.​

Moore requested a trade last week. "He's been fine. Is there frustration? There probably still is," Saleh told reporters Wednesday. "But he's not quitting on anybody. He's not dogging it ... he just wants to contribute." Saleh was seen chatting extensively with Moore during Wednesday's practice, and confirmed the disgruntled wideout will play in Week 8 against New England. With Corey Davis (knee) sidelined, Moore could finally see a few targets from Zach Wilson this week. Whether Moore is a fantasy option depends on one's desperation.
SOURCE: Zack Rosenblatt on Twitter
Oct 26, 2022, 12:35 PM ET